Why these people are so calm? Because they know another clean and modern train is coming in less than several minutes. Always on time. Calmness is a sign of confidence. And confidence comes from consistent high expectation and delivery, of oneself and of the society.
Yes. At early years without those half or full size screen door, I could hear the terrible news about people dropped to the tunnel(suicide / pushed) very often. But now, I haven't heard that for many years.
from nothing to this amazing subway in only 20 years!!!!! that's incredible...and so much clean....!!!! thank you for sharing !!!i would like to go to Shanghai.... and hong Kong too !!!! greets from France !!!!
Yes you should check out Hong Kong. The subway system is almost 50 years old and its holding strong. There is the standard subway from the 70s and the Tung Chung, airport, Disneyland line from the 90s.
+King Yu thanks so much...i'll go to check out the subway but if one day i go to Hong Kong i would like to visit the town from the first deck of the legendary tramway....
The reason why it still takes a longer time after the door closes is that part of the line 2 station is curved rather than a straight line, thus a full height platform scene door is not able to be bulit. The door in this video requires a manual operation and double check by train captain and station staff to make sure no one/obejct is trapped.{for all stations]
Then it is smart, isn't it? Train jumpers causes HUGE delays.. I get pissed off every time when that happens because I have to add another 1 hour to my 2 hour journey from home to university (and vice versa) here in the Netherlands.
I stay in Europe for 8 years, and have visited more than 100 cities, so far the better and more convenient metro I met is Stockholm, S-Bahn and RE connection in Ruhr area of Germany and S+U Bahn in Berlin-Brandenburg, Shanghai is better than most of the rest. BTW, I saw Aurora in Kiruna, Abisko and Narvik. You Profile photo is cool.
Agree with comment below re: comparison to MTA. Shanghai subway is among the best managed system I've encountered and puts NY Transit to shame in all respects including behavior of passengers!
Which media? Whatever media it is, do not believe it. I have used both systems. NYC MTA is old, dirty and decrepit and passenger behavior is often deplorable. Shanghai subway is the complete opposite. This is coming from a native New Yorker.
Yeah we have the same problem with our trains here in NZ. 5-10secs to complete some stupid computer routine every time the train wants to leave a station. It's just a massive slowdown on an otherwise good system.
You guys don't have metros though, you have the same shitty commuter heavy rail trains just like New York, Sydney and the rest of America and Australia.
+AllRequired It's very difficult to modernize a station built in 1904 to the level of another built in the 90s. The available space is not the same, modern ones have much more open space. It's very expensive and you would need to close the entire line. Try to close a subway line that serves 500k/800k passengers daily. Good luck with that.
Charles M Thats why the US is expected to decline, there are more and more people here in the States like you, can't take criticism. Kids in China are indeed better taken cared of than American kids. At least they don't have drug problem and school shootings like we do here.
Shanghai Metro feels VERY reminiscent of Hong Kong's highly rated MTR system - from station design, platform arrangement to overall design theme. Given Shanghai's population density which is similar to Hong Kong, it probably is a good idea to model it after MTR if this was the case.
Shanghais metro is my favorite by far. It's much much better than Londons subway or New York's for that matter. It's clean, fast, and efficient. The only down slide of it is traveling during rush hour.
The train in wuhan are usually powered by the third rail. The crowded Beijing Subway line 13 and Beijing Airport Line also use the third rails. There is no regulation that restrict which technic should be used.
All train drivers in PRC/ROC/Japan have to obey Pointing and Calling to prevent errors, and this is why it takes a long time for the train to depart. The driver have to leave the driver's room to monitor the closing doors, and later he or she has to return to the driver's room, pointing at signals and marks. This process often takes nearly 12-15 seconds. In some cities, the start of ATO system also takes 3-4 seconds. This makes the train idling before departure. But in JR or some other train companies, there is a conductor at the end of the train, so the conductor can handle the doors while the driver is checking the signals and marks. The conductor can help the train to depart immediately after its doors closed.
I remember how some systems in China played this really long message on the platform when the train starts lo leave about transfers to local bus routes, attractions, and advice for passengers.
saxson911 The system hasn’t gotten an upgrade in a very long time. It’s, I believe, a lack of increased funding to accommodate the increased popularity and ridership on the metro.
saxson911 Jealous Westerners will find every convenient laughable excuse to dismiss China's achievements, since they know their freedom-laden democracies won't and can't provide useful public goods.
It's a beautiful system. I love how new it is. It's unfortunate the New York subway can't have the outside walls and doors for safety and less noise. The trains in the New York subway come in different sizes and so they can't all fit if they put automatic doors in the stations.
Great video. I have noticed long dwelling time at stations (I mean door opening/closing/arrival/departure process) is indeed very long compared to other metro systems. This applies not only to Shanghai but other Chinese cities (Beijing, Guangzhou, Shenzhen). To my understanding this is due to the fact that the driver must leave the cabin at every stop and visually observe the platform before departing. All about safety and extra steps to achieve it. Not sure if this is really necessary though. It will certainly have to change in the future. At the moment about 15 to 20 seconds in total are wasted at each station (by wasted I mean extra time it takes compared to other countries' metro systems) . So if you go 10 stops you'll be wasting about 2.5 minutes. If 20 stops then it's 5 minutes. Not really a big deal but again this doesn't happen elsewhere and there is no reason it has to happen in China.
urban dweller Indeed. Way too long. Either have an external camera for the driver to look at or a guard who can do this quicker and then let the driver know by means of an on-board communication system.
I'm pretty sure they have both. Don't think any modern metro trains come without cameras and comms. Seems to be a formal procedure that they must follow for some odd reason.
Hi, the 10s waiting time is actually invented by a research team at my undergrad university. Most Chinese subway systems have platform doors to prevent falling during rush hours and other accidents, but this also created a gap between the train doors and the platform doors. It happened before that someone/something(luggage, umbrella) got stuck in this narrow space. So we added sensors to both the two doors and they will automatically reopen if there is anything unexpected. Also, we added a vertical light belt to "cover" the gap at the end of the platform. The driver needs to check from the other end to see if the light belt is complete(which means nothing got stuck in the gap) because anything between the gap will partially block the light belt, and that is what the 10s is for. In addition, if the waiting time is significantly longer, it may be the case that there is another train in the next station. For cities like Shanghai, the interarrival time between trains can be as short as 70sec, so sometimes that happens.
To your text on 2:45 : On the Line 2, the driver have to go out of his cabin and have to open/close the platform gates manually. On all other Lines (in the underground) are Full-Size Platform Gates, which open/close automatically.
Beijing subway operated in 1969, Shanghai Subway operated in 1993. But right now Shanghai subway already longest in the world. The second longest is Beijing subway. Also Beijing subway changed the old line 1, 2, 13, and added the slide barrier door
I’m from Mainland China in Beijing and it’s pretty odd how people still don’t get the whole out first in second thing. Rush hour’s a mess on the way. Shanghai seems to be handled better though.
As a local who lived in Shanghai for 10 years, line 10 is the most clean line, and line 8 is the busiest line because it directly arrive at People's Square(shopping centre).
It is indeed slow without express services but the acceleration is much higher. Some old lines without express services are usually complemented with newer projects of "express lines"
+igrenade I agree there's a lot of stuff the MTA can look up to improve. But if MTA ever charges the subway the same fare as the London Underground there's going to be a riot.
No matter compared to other countries, other Chinese cities or other Shanghai lines: line 2 has absolutely the longest most annoying door open and close wait I’ve used.
I was in Shanghai last year, a large system but pretty easy to use. But the dwell time in the stations as you mention seem long. It takes a bit after the train stops before the doors open, then then even after the doors are closed it would take forever before the train would depart. Not sure why this was. Even when the were platform guards waving the train as clear (which seem odd with platform doors), it would still take forever. They could have higher frequencies with faster service if they would cut the dwell times... But still a nice system overall...
Hi Elam, I think so. Though, I bought a multi-day pass, which I believe was not available from the machines, but I could get it from a ticketing agent (who spoke some rudimentary english).
Elam Daly i was able to buy a 24 hour ticket in shanghai at a ticket window------in shanghai i did find the whole metro system slower because of the door opening closing process took a long time.
Fun fact, they install full height gates mainly to save energy, preventing air conditioned cool air to enter the tunnel. So you can see the old stations and on ground stations without air conditioning use half height gates.
Considering the history, line 3 should be the oldest. In 19th century, the British built a railway in north Shanghai which became the origin of the north part of the line. The south part of Line 3 is also built on one of the Chinese oldest inter-city railways, the Shanghai-Ningbo Railway and when the new S-N railway opened up, the old line that the Line 3 is currently using was abandoned. In order to make everything be used, let’s build a subway!🤪
Chinese people are so loud.... this is an impression in my mind before I come here in China to study...😂😂 but you know what??? When I come here, me and my friend are talking way more louder than Chinese haahaa.
Very good. In the newer shanghai metro trains like line 15, line 14, line 18, and some trains on line 10 and 8 have less idle time before departure and doors opening and closing due to the automatic control system. Line 17 is a bit older and doesn't have the automatic system but the idle time is less.
The subway of ShanghaI seems quite different from that of Seoul. Seoul metro is kind of too fast while Shanghai metro seems too slow. Neither do I like, though :( , I personally think the middle range of waiting time of subway between Seoul and Shanghai would be a perfect choice :D Shanghai metro seems quite clean and automated just like Seoul metro, Good for Asia! Greetings from Seoul, South Korea!
I think the speed between both are not too much different, but the gap between 2 stations in Seoul is less than that in Shanghai, that what I felt when I travel in seoul , I can even walk from on to another station in a few mins.
Liang Liang Haha.. yes.. In fact, that culture was usually made in the 20th century when Korea was in crisis historically, and the 빨리빨리 culture contributed to making Korea a developed country in such a short time as well. However, actually there are many problems made by the culture related to mistakes in Korea as well. (Too fast speed sometimes makes work imperfect you know :D)But one thing is good for sure, the fast delivery service everywhere in Korea :D. I've heard that there is kind of 'Manmandi' culture (slow but patient) in China. It's kind of interesting that there are such different cultures in both countries located very nearby each other and sharing lots of similar cultures (except for that one). :) Actually, I'm planning to visit Taiwan, Shanghai and Beijing this summer (first time to visit China) and I think it would be a quite fresh experience for me.:)
I am compiling a video of railroad networks across Asia. I have not had a chance to film this system and was wondering if I could use 30 seconds of your footage? I would be more than happy to list your channel as credits under the description once I put out the video. :)
Me upon seeing pictures of Shanghai metro: who tf needs such large and fancy stations? Me upon visiting Shanghai: Shanghai metro system needs bigger stations
That was excellent. Your captions are very helpful. Those line 3 cars look very long with five doors on each. Is the rolling stock similar on each line? It was odd that the screen barriers on some platforms were deactivated. Also on the platforms with full height barriers they were synchronised with the train doors. That long dwell time will surely be fixed if the need to increase service levels.
A bit odd to see full platform screen doors on the oldest line, but for the 2nd oldest line (line 2) and line 3,4, they don't have full screen doors, that quite strange
It think it is unfair to compare the subway in NYC and Shanghai. The subway was built much earlier. But I am still proud of what Shanghai have done these years. Love my hometown.
In 11:27 a woman rushed towards the closing doors and actually crossed the screen doors. The safety regulation demands drivers to look and point at the platform directly or look at monitors, and I'm pretty curious about why the driver did not open the door again for the risk that the woman may stuck in the train doors. Pointing and Calling, a system that every train driver in China have to obey, should have prevented things like this from happening.
+Hobo G Not sure if this is to do with ATC/ATO. In fact most routes DO have that. Even when usin automated operation the driver still has to give the command for the system to depart.
That's true. On the Victoria line in London (the world's first automatic metro system) the train operator has to close the doors and press two buttons at the same time to start the train.
I think it's because of the platform edge doors/screen doors not interlocked with the signalling system (and hence the train doors). Especially as line 2 is not fitted with them from the start they are probably an isolated system that needs to be manually operated by the driver. On newer lines the "interlocking" means that no train movement is permitted in the station when the screen doors are open.
Hi, the 10s waiting time is actually invented by a research team at my undergrad university. Most Chinese subway systems have platform doors to prevent falling during rush hours and other accidents, but this also created a gap between the train doors and the platform doors. It happened before that someone/something(luggage, umbrella) got stuck in this narrow space. So we added sensors to both the two doors and they will automatically reopen if there is anything unexpected. Also, we added a vertical light belt to "cover" the gap at the end of the platform. The driver needs to check from the other end to see if the light belt is complete(which means nothing got stuck in the gap) because anything between the gap will partially block the light belt, and that is what the 10s is for. In addition, if the waiting time is significantly longer, it may be the case that there is another train in the next station. For cities like Shanghai, the interarrival time between trains can be as short as 70sec, so sometimes that happens.
Hobo G People need a job. Maybe China should save money by just selling Hong Kong and Macau to the UK and Portugal, with a contract that would last 1 billion years.
Would love you to do a video of Hong Kong MTR in the future. It really is one of the best in the world. I rank it and London Underground as the best metro in the world
In India we are building new metro lines in Mumbai city. I hope its standard is similar to the Beijing metro line. The metro stations in India are very dull in appearance compare to stations from East Asian countries. Not quite sure what is missing.
Wahnsinn! Auch der Sound der Fahrzeuge. Sehe ich das richtig, dass an einzelnen Stationen die Türen von den Stationen offen sind? Wenn ja, warum? Welche Linien sind denn Führerlos? Grüße aus Dresden.
Ja die Shanghai Subway ist schon ziemlich beeindruckend. Ich glaube dass an den Stationen, an denen die Barrieren noch offen sind, diese erst neu installiert sind und daher noch nicht in Betrieb sind. Aber sicher bin ich mir da nicht. Führerlose Linien habe ich nicht gesehen. Bei allen Zügen war ein Fahrer im Führerstand, der auch den Zug von Hand abgefertigt hat. Da die Züge oftmals relativ ungenau an den Türen halten, gehe ich davon aus dass sie manuell gefahren werden. ;-)
Danke für die Antwort! Habe auf DSO grade nachgelesen, dass auch viel mit Hand und Optik abgefertigt wird. Dann wird es auch verständlich, dass man etwas länger braucht zum Anfahren. Das erklärt sich auch, dass der Fahrer beim Zug der Linie 3 seinen Halt nachkorrigiert hat. Danke für dieses tolle Video und freue mich auf weitere solcher Videos, die an immer mehr an Qualität gewinnen. Grüßenaus Dresden.
Had the pleasure of falling asleep and missing a changeover from the airport line and doing the round trip after a 14hr flight from Nairobi (no one bothered to wake up a black man 黑人). I ended up missing the last train to Wenzhou, getting a stomach upset and taking a bus to wenzhou where I was given a bed next to the toilet of the bus. I enjoyed the ride surprisingly 😂😂😂. Beijing people are more welcoming though... Shanghai surprised me everytime.🙄
due to safety regulation in China, at every stop, an inspector have to visually observe the platform before departing to make sure everything is in good condition. i dont know if it is really nescessary but that is just a few step more to achieve safety .
Because the platform edge/screen doors are not interlocked with the signalling system and therefore cannot be synchronised with the train doors. Also line 2 is not fitted with them from the start, whereas line 1 has the screen doors as part of its design.
Warning to travelers: You should never, ever, ever, ever go on the Shanghai subway at *peak times* (rush hour) unless absolutely necessary. There's a literal sea of people. People often debate about which lines are the most crowded, but as of my experience the worst are lines 2, 5, 9 and 16. AVOID. You will NOT be able to get in at 8 o'clock, especially at a station like People's Square. And even if you get in, you will not be able to get out. 1, 6, and 8 close behind these four. The comparatively better ones are 10 and 13.
Why these people are so calm? Because they know another clean and modern train is coming in less than several minutes. Always on time. Calmness is a sign of confidence. And confidence comes from consistent high expectation and delivery, of oneself and of the society.
Jin Kuang in addition to this Metro, you should also check out the Tokyo metro
Beijing metro was top notch too. This Kenyan enjoyed his 7 yrs in China. Amazing country.
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I love how at 11:30 that group of women got separated and the 2 people who didn't get on just laughed and waved lmao
Nicholas lofa IKR so common in china
@@yinan02 😯really ?
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I'd be damn mad if I was separated like that.
Hahahahaa
that gate is so smart to add. Would avoid so many accidents
Chantel F There is thzt on some paris line toi
Yes. At early years without those half or full size screen door, I could hear the terrible news about people dropped to the tunnel(suicide / pushed) very often. But now, I haven't heard that for many years.
BlackZac Show most of the station have gates in China metro
Yee..
But they are adding a new type
Totally agree, but the train drivers who were told that they cannot travel faster than 45km/h in train stations may be sad about them, lol.
from nothing to this amazing subway in only 20 years!!!!! that's incredible...and so much clean....!!!! thank you for sharing !!!i would like to go to Shanghai.... and hong Kong too !!!! greets from France !!!!
You're welcome! Yes I also found that impressive.
Yes you should check out Hong Kong. The subway system is almost 50 years old and its holding strong. There is the standard subway from the 70s and the Tung Chung, airport, Disneyland line from the 90s.
+King Yu thanks so much...i'll go to check out the subway but if one day i go to Hong Kong i would like to visit the town from the first deck of the legendary tramway....
+Francois Gauthier I'm Shanghainese living in Paris and I'm sorry I am just always wondering what the bizarre smell is in Paris Metro?
+Guojun Cao i don't know but all i know is that it's not Chanel n°5....
The reason why it still takes a longer time after the door closes is that part of the line 2 station is curved rather than a straight line, thus a full height platform scene door is not able to be bulit. The door in this video requires a manual operation and double check by train captain and station staff to make sure no one/obejct is trapped.{for all stations]
so clean. and gates at tracks so no injuries occur. Smart.
New York subway and ttc subway didn't have that
It's to stop them from committing suicide.
Ryan Flores In China,more than 40 cities have its subway system,and every station is clean like this station
Not smart. Slows down Subway significantly. They're only there because mass amounts of people have tried to commit suicide that way
Then it is smart, isn't it? Train jumpers causes HUGE delays.. I get pissed off every time when that happens because I have to add another 1 hour to my 2 hour journey from home to university (and vice versa) here in the Netherlands.
Shanghai is one of the beautiful city in world and his metro is also amazing. Shanghai metro is better than many european cities metro systems
u'r damn right about that
Thanks, It's true
you can see world through youtube,
The places I did not visit I try to see them through you tube
I stay in Europe for 8 years, and have visited more than 100 cities, so far the better and more convenient metro I met is Stockholm, S-Bahn and RE connection in Ruhr area of Germany and S+U Bahn in Berlin-Brandenburg, Shanghai is better than most of the rest. BTW, I saw Aurora in Kiruna, Abisko and Narvik. You Profile photo is cool.
Agree with comment below re: comparison to MTA. Shanghai subway is among the best managed system I've encountered and puts NY Transit to shame in all respects including behavior of passengers!
What you've said is completely the opposite from what I've heard from the media
Which media? Whatever media it is, do not believe it. I have used both systems. NYC MTA is old, dirty and decrepit and passenger behavior is often deplorable. Shanghai subway is the complete opposite. This is coming from a native New Yorker.
ElliotWORLD why would the media do that? They will lose their credibility....
I might add that this is curious to me. Subway: orderly, cooperative, civilized. Traveling on the streets, total mayhem.
Ask your Mom or any other trusted adult in your life,Wang Bo. Not a stranger on the internet.
Miss my hometown by watching this video..
Fei same...
But im flying to there in a few days! YaY
Same.
I feel u BUT IM HERE
Quiet subway, calm people, wow!
but those doors take fucking long to close. so annoying
only during off peak. Rush hour gets even worse than Mumbai
Yeah we have the same problem with our trains here in NZ.
5-10secs to complete some stupid computer routine every time the train wants to leave a station. It's just a massive slowdown on an otherwise good system.
You guys don't have metros though, you have the same shitty commuter heavy rail trains just like New York, Sydney and the rest of America and Australia.
borgia535 Unless you're at Peoples Square station, that's a different story
Only around for 22 years and it's already super-advanced. Meanwhile, North America, with scores of subways decades older, lags miles behind.
+AllRequired It's very difficult to modernize a station built in 1904 to the level of another built in the 90s.
The available space is not the same, modern ones have much more open space. It's very expensive and you would need to close the entire line. Try to close a subway line that serves 500k/800k passengers daily. Good luck with that.
+ZeZeBatata69 Beijing subway was opened in 1968. But they upgrade many times as far . All of lines similar to Shanghai
brioan - did you know BART in sf as a temporary solution for barriers used traffic cones? Lol it didn’t work
Charles M
Thats why the US is expected to decline, there are more and more people here in the States like you, can't take criticism. Kids in China are indeed better taken cared of than American kids. At least they don't have drug problem and school shootings like we do here.
U see the power of communism?
Shanghai Metro feels VERY reminiscent of Hong Kong's highly rated MTR system - from station design, platform arrangement to overall design theme. Given Shanghai's population density which is similar to Hong Kong, it probably is a good idea to model it after MTR if this was the case.
I guess those who disliked cannot accept the fact there are other civilized besides U.S.
What if they aren't Americans
@@gameplaychannel1309 Well, just google 'UA-cam users by country'. The vast majority are from the US.
It's only China's coastal cities that deserve to have the 1st world status. The rest, and I mean a majority of China is poor and underdeveloped s fuck
Desmond I do not think so.
@@chrischoy9 Actually there are 41 cities in China that have metro. What about them？
Shanghais metro is my favorite by far. It's much much better than Londons subway or New York's for that matter. It's clean, fast, and efficient. The only down slide of it is traveling during rush hour.
Mr. X it is newer. So naturally better. No surprise.
Toby Li Yes, But it’s maintenance has been considerably better than (obviously) US subways and European subways
@@Vermilion2049 Shanghai Metro is 30 years old, it's not about the age, it's about the maintenance
Unlike New York, trains here are actually powered by overhead power line. Interesting.
Well, considering this system is only ~20 years old, you would hope they did adopt some newer innovations.
David Wu Line 16 is third rail
The train in wuhan are usually powered by the third rail. The crowded Beijing Subway line 13 and Beijing Airport Line also use the third rails. There is no regulation that restrict which technic should be used.
Shanghai metro Line 16&17 is third rail. Pujiang line is rubber-wheel metro like the one in Montréal and Paris.
We have some trains in Chicago that are also powered by overhead wiring.
Shanghai is amazing!
In 2020 year Shanghai have 800km of the subway ！ 24 line
good idea to have these ramps to prevent people from accidentally falling over the line
Meanwhile @5:20 Amtrak Train Passes By LOL!
That's just a miniature train for kids to ride in.
HAHAHAHA
lmao
@@FelixAn that was a joke
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All train drivers in PRC/ROC/Japan have to obey Pointing and Calling to prevent errors, and this is why it takes a long time for the train to depart. The driver have to leave the driver's room to monitor the closing doors, and later he or she has to return to the driver's room, pointing at signals and marks. This process often takes nearly 12-15 seconds. In some cities, the start of ATO system also takes 3-4 seconds. This makes the train idling before departure. But in JR or some other train companies, there is a conductor at the end of the train, so the conductor can handle the doors while the driver is checking the signals and marks. The conductor can help the train to depart immediately after its doors closed.
I remember how some systems in China played this really long message on the platform when the train starts lo leave about transfers to local bus routes, attractions, and advice for passengers.
The metro is quiet, the people are quiet, everything is just so orderly. I'm sold.
Manhattan feels like 3rd world...
Old is not an excuse for no upgrade.
saxson911 The system hasn’t gotten an upgrade in a very long time. It’s, I believe, a lack of increased funding to accommodate the increased popularity and ridership on the metro.
Adventure Guy Isn't the ridership on the MTA much more than that of the tube?
NY subway smells like toilet. Canal Street station leaks when it's raining. I am from New Utrecht, work in Manhattan.
saxson911
Jealous Westerners will find every convenient laughable excuse to dismiss China's achievements, since they know their freedom-laden democracies won't and can't provide useful public goods.
It's a beautiful system. I love how new it is. It's unfortunate the New York subway can't have the outside walls and doors for safety and less noise. The trains in the New York subway come in different sizes and so they can't all fit if they put automatic doors in the stations.
Great video. I have noticed long dwelling time at stations (I mean door opening/closing/arrival/departure process) is indeed very long compared to other metro systems. This applies not only to Shanghai but other Chinese cities (Beijing, Guangzhou, Shenzhen). To my understanding this is due to the fact that the driver must leave the cabin at every stop and visually observe the platform before departing. All about safety and extra steps to achieve it. Not sure if this is really necessary though. It will certainly have to change in the future. At the moment about 15 to 20 seconds in total are wasted at each station (by wasted I mean extra time it takes compared to other countries' metro systems) . So if you go 10 stops you'll be wasting about 2.5 minutes. If 20 stops then it's 5 minutes. Not really a big deal but again this doesn't happen elsewhere and there is no reason it has to happen in China.
urban dweller do understand the amount of people living in China is much more compared to the US or Europe.
Mr. X this has nothing to do with dwelling time at stations :)
urban dweller Indeed. Way too long. Either have an external camera for the driver to look at or a guard who can do this quicker and then let the driver know by means of an on-board communication system.
I'm pretty sure they have both. Don't think any modern metro trains come without cameras and comms. Seems to be a formal procedure that they must follow for some odd reason.
Hi, the 10s waiting time is actually invented by a research team at my undergrad university. Most Chinese subway systems have platform doors to prevent falling during rush hours and other accidents, but this also created a gap between the train doors and the platform doors. It happened before that someone/something(luggage, umbrella) got stuck in this narrow space. So we added sensors to both the two doors and they will automatically reopen if there is anything unexpected. Also, we added a vertical light belt to "cover" the gap at the end of the platform. The driver needs to check from the other end to see if the light belt is complete(which means nothing got stuck in the gap) because anything between the gap will partially block the light belt, and that is what the 10s is for. In addition, if the waiting time is significantly longer, it may be the case that there is another train in the next station. For cities like Shanghai, the interarrival time between trains can be as short as 70sec, so sometimes that happens.
So proud to live in SH❤
To your text on 2:45 :
On the Line 2, the driver have to go out of his cabin and have to open/close the platform gates manually.
On all other Lines (in the underground) are Full-Size Platform Gates, which open/close automatically.
Beijing subway operated in 1969, Shanghai Subway operated in 1993. But right now Shanghai subway already longest in the world. The second longest is Beijing subway.
Also Beijing subway changed the old line 1, 2, 13, and added the slide barrier door
I’m from Mainland China in Beijing and it’s pretty odd how people still don’t get the whole out first in second thing. Rush hour’s a mess on the way. Shanghai seems to be handled better though.
As a local who lived in Shanghai for 10 years, line 10 is the most clean line, and line 8 is the busiest line because it directly arrive at People's Square(shopping centre).
Sky eyes I always felt line 13 and 12 were really clean
Is it faster than the NYC subway? It seemed to have left that station at a much higher acceleration than I'm used to seeing.
Marc Moore It’s slow. No express services. If you need to go between two very far places, you may have to make 30 stops.
@@QuarioQuario54321 At least, it doesn't smell like sewage and there's no rats on the tracks.
emma nebres It always smell more like urine to me
It is indeed slow without express services but the acceleration is much higher. Some old lines without express services are usually complemented with newer projects of "express lines"
People are so calm and the stations are not overcrowded. Would love to go there someday
omg chinas subway system makes the Mta look like a joke
Well it is much younger than New York City’s, so it is probably not a fair comparion.
+Luftschlange o
+igrenade I agree there's a lot of stuff the MTA can look up to improve. But if MTA ever charges the subway the same fare as the London Underground there's going to be a riot.
+Luftschlange you can compare with Bangkok train BTS that only opened in 1999
+CraftHunterGaming - (Ong) I'd be happy to. Are you sponsoring the trip to Singapore? :-)
Nice
No matter compared to other countries, other Chinese cities or other Shanghai lines:
line 2 has absolutely the longest most annoying door open and close wait I’ve used.
wow very clean train station and comfortable unlike in japan very weird
how is japan weird?
sam kinstone i thought Japan will be much cleaner and tidy, you know, Japanese..
Both Tokyo and Shanghai subways are very clean, it's just Tokyo has way too many lines and confusing
sam kinstone Japan’s is just like, I don’t know, a LOT older.
Adventure Guy and London's is, idk, the *oldest*
This is nice, in lujiazui is the second tallest building in the world :) ive been there it gives me the creeps
11:27 LOL
RIP
光复华夏 Train driver is savage
I mean trains come every 5 minutes in the off-rush hour, and 0-30 seconds during rush hour so its justified i guess?
This happens when you are dump...
That's why Shanghai subway barely delayed
I was in Shanghai last year, a large system but pretty easy to use. But the dwell time in the stations as you mention seem long. It takes a bit after the train stops before the doors open, then then even after the doors are closed it would take forever before the train would depart. Not sure why this was. Even when the were platform guards waving the train as clear (which seem odd with platform doors), it would still take forever. They could have higher frequencies with faster service if they would cut the dwell times... But still a nice system overall...
Great video!
What about buying tickets if you don't speak Mandarin? I'm assuming they have ticket machines with an English option?
Hi Elam, I think so. Though, I bought a multi-day pass, which I believe was not available from the machines, but I could get it from a ticketing agent (who spoke some rudimentary english).
Yes, ticket machine is with English option.
Elam Daly i was able to buy a 24 hour ticket in shanghai at a ticket window------in shanghai i did find the whole metro system slower because of the door opening closing process took a long time.
You can use automatic ticket selling machine in all China's subway stations, they have English service.
You can simply show QR code with your mobile phone and no need buy ticket now.
Fun fact, they install full height gates mainly to save energy, preventing air conditioned cool air to enter the tunnel. So you can see the old stations and on ground stations without air conditioning use half height gates.
Considering the history, line 3 should be the oldest. In 19th century, the British built a railway in north Shanghai which became the origin of the north part of the line. The south part of Line 3 is also built on one of the Chinese oldest inter-city railways, the Shanghai-Ningbo Railway and when the new S-N railway opened up, the old line that the Line 3 is currently using was abandoned. In order to make everything be used, let’s build a subway!🤪
It is a mixed blessing that the subway system is still expanding. Soon the housing price will escalate in Shanghai's rural areas as well.
Chinese people are so loud.... this is an impression in my mind before I come here in China to study...😂😂 but you know what??? When I come here, me and my friend are talking way more louder than Chinese haahaa.
I know.
I'ts SOOOO loud.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Very good. In the newer shanghai metro trains like line 15, line 14, line 18, and some trains on line 10 and 8 have less idle time before departure and doors opening and closing due to the automatic control system. Line 17 is a bit older and doesn't have the automatic system but the idle time is less.
its glad to see our door function that well on the station, produced by shanghai jiacheng railway system
woah, this video was made just 6 years ago and is already really outdated. im getting homesickness just from hearing the announcements, though.
大部分中国城市的地铁线路其实都有自动驾驶系统（ATO/ATC），但是为了避免司机对于手动驾驶生疏了，会在一些非高峰时段采用手动驾驶练习驾驶。
Yeah, I'm chinese but I can't understand that so please english.
Pixoo He says Chinese subway drivers are always noobs so most lines are driven automatically.
11:29 Oh! Jajaja No llegaron a tiempo... Pero menos mal que no quedaron tan cerca de la barrera andén 😅
Really good video! I like it. Thanks for sharing!
Why does it take so long to open doors or to depart? Looks comical, I have never seen that elsewhere.
what day you coming back to new york city to make more subway videos because there are awsome
The subway of ShanghaI seems quite different from that of Seoul. Seoul metro is kind of too fast while Shanghai metro seems too slow. Neither do I like, though :( , I personally think the middle range of waiting time of subway between Seoul and Shanghai would be a perfect choice :D Shanghai metro seems quite clean and automated just like Seoul metro, Good for Asia! Greetings from Seoul, South Korea!
I think the speed between both are not too much different, but the gap between 2 stations in Seoul is less than that in Shanghai, that what I felt when I travel in seoul , I can even walk from on to another station in a few mins.
congratulations for the improvement of Asia, especially Korea and China
주우찬 South Korean folks are famous for their impatient. 빨리빨리.. is that right ? :D
Liang Liang Haha.. yes.. In fact, that culture was usually made in the 20th century when Korea was in crisis historically, and the 빨리빨리 culture contributed to making Korea a developed country in such a short time as well. However, actually there are many problems made by the culture related to mistakes in Korea as well. (Too fast speed sometimes makes work imperfect you know :D)But one thing is good for sure, the fast delivery service everywhere in Korea :D. I've heard that there is kind of 'Manmandi' culture (slow but patient) in China. It's kind of interesting that there are such different cultures in both countries located very nearby each other and sharing lots of similar cultures (except for that one). :) Actually, I'm planning to visit Taiwan, Shanghai and Beijing this summer (first time to visit China) and I think it would be a quite fresh experience for me.:)
익명할래 I’m sorry? Too slow? Is trains arriving within 0-5 minutes of each other, 0-1 minutes of each other during rush hour too slow?
The Line 2 Old platform doors are now replaced with Upgraded Platform Doors.
i have been to many metro lines and the reason is because i love the engine sounds brrrrrrrrrr
I am compiling a video of railroad networks across Asia. I have not had
a chance to film this system and was wondering if I could use 30
seconds of your footage? I would be more than happy to list your channel
as credits under the description once I put out the video. :)
Me upon seeing pictures of Shanghai metro: who tf needs such large and fancy stations?
Me upon visiting Shanghai: Shanghai metro system needs bigger stations
My mind: Jenn, divert your 2018 Spring Break from Tokyo to Shanghai.
beautifully filmed!!!
Line 11,12 and 13 extension opened on Dec.19,2015 you're more welcome to check them out
1:54 sounds worryingly similar to the London Underground Jubilee Line traction motors.
That was excellent. Your captions are very helpful.
Those line 3 cars look very long with five doors on each. Is the rolling stock similar on each line?
It was odd that the screen barriers on some platforms were deactivated. Also on the platforms with full height barriers they were synchronised with the train doors.
That long dwell time will surely be fixed if the need to increase service levels.
A bit odd to see full platform screen doors on the oldest line, but for the 2nd oldest line (line 2) and line 3,4, they don't have full screen doors, that quite strange
Line 2 has different ventination system. Line 3 & 4 have elevlated stations and platforms do not have a/c.
thx for sharing! thx for the good editing!
Nicely done!
Thank you.
Who are the characters on the doors?
It think it is unfair to compare the subway in NYC and Shanghai. The subway was built much earlier. But I am still proud of what Shanghai have done these years. Love my hometown.
陈奕 me too
Pretty cool, and it so fast. can't wait to have one in 2018. :*
Great video.
Does anyone know why the wait time is so long before departing?
In 11:27 a woman rushed towards the closing doors and actually crossed the screen doors. The safety regulation demands drivers to look and point at the platform directly or look at monitors, and I'm pretty curious about why the driver did not open the door again for the risk that the woman may stuck in the train doors. Pointing and Calling, a system that every train driver in China have to obey, should have prevented things like this from happening.
that train at 5:20 sounds like a dinosaur :(
Does Donald Trump sound like a Dinosaur?
it's a train for tourists
FoxHQ That’s not a train, there are no rails
FoxHQ reminds me of the Ocean City Peoplemover
Rode on it before. It's just a typical small train joyride to help tourists tour around East Nanjing Road and the hub of the city in People's Square.
2:47 the dead-time for doors is annoying all over china, so many routes without ATC
+Hobo G Not sure if this is to do with ATC/ATO. In fact most routes DO have that. Even when usin automated operation the driver still has to give the command for the system to depart.
That's true. On the Victoria line in London (the world's first automatic metro system) the train operator has to close the doors and press two buttons at the same time to start the train.
I think it's because of the platform edge doors/screen doors not interlocked with the signalling system (and hence the train doors). Especially as line 2 is not fitted with them from the start they are probably an isolated system that needs to be manually operated by the driver. On newer lines the "interlocking" means that no train movement is permitted in the station when the screen doors are open.
Hi, the 10s waiting time is actually invented by a research team at my undergrad university. Most Chinese subway systems have platform doors to prevent falling during rush hours and other accidents, but this also created a gap between the train doors and the platform doors. It happened before that someone/something(luggage, umbrella) got stuck in this narrow space. So we added sensors to both the two doors and they will automatically reopen if there is anything unexpected. Also, we added a vertical light belt to "cover" the gap at the end of the platform. The driver needs to check from the other end to see if the light belt is complete(which means nothing got stuck in the gap) because anything between the gap will partially block the light belt, and that is what the 10s is for. In addition, if the waiting time is significantly longer, it may be the case that there is another train in the next station. For cities like Shanghai, the interarrival time between trains can be as short as 70sec, so sometimes that happens.
Hobo G People need a job. Maybe China should save money by just selling Hong Kong and Macau to the UK and Portugal, with a contract that would last 1 billion years.
That barrier thingy its called platform screen doors similar to singapore metro
The Chinese subway is so clean and modern. It's futuristic too
Would love you to do a video of Hong Kong MTR in the future. It really is one of the best in the world. I rank it and London Underground as the best metro in the world
Question why aren't the platform screen doors running on above ground platforms connected to lines 3 And 4?
all shanghai metro are now equipped with platform screen doors,line 3 and line 4 has installed already
SmurfsFTW Dora&friendsFTL on the levitated lines they use barrier fences
SmurfsFTW Dora&friendsFTL those ones only operate during rush hour for some reason
In India we are building new metro lines in Mumbai city. I hope its standard is similar to the Beijing metro line. The metro stations in India are very dull in appearance compare to stations from East Asian countries. Not quite sure what is missing.
Nice acceleration
I miss shanghai too i hope when I going back to shanghai march 27 my family will reunite
It' huge, how much capacity have the trains ?
Wahnsinn! Auch der Sound der Fahrzeuge. Sehe ich das richtig, dass an einzelnen Stationen die Türen von den Stationen offen sind? Wenn ja, warum? Welche Linien sind denn Führerlos? Grüße aus Dresden.
Ja die Shanghai Subway ist schon ziemlich beeindruckend. Ich glaube dass an den Stationen, an denen die Barrieren noch offen sind, diese erst neu installiert sind und daher noch nicht in Betrieb sind. Aber sicher bin ich mir da nicht.
Führerlose Linien habe ich nicht gesehen. Bei allen Zügen war ein Fahrer im Führerstand, der auch den Zug von Hand abgefertigt hat. Da die Züge oftmals relativ ungenau an den Türen halten, gehe ich davon aus dass sie manuell gefahren werden. ;-)
Danke für die Antwort!
Habe auf DSO grade nachgelesen, dass auch viel mit Hand und Optik abgefertigt wird. Dann wird es auch verständlich, dass man etwas länger braucht zum Anfahren.
Das erklärt sich auch, dass der Fahrer beim Zug der Linie 3 seinen Halt nachkorrigiert hat.
Danke für dieses tolle Video und freue mich auf weitere solcher Videos, die an immer mehr an Qualität gewinnen.
Grüßenaus Dresden.
Have u come to hong kong or shenzhen's metro ?
上海地铁英语服务还是可以的，不像多伦多只有英语，连法语报站都没有
Xu Zhuojun 相反，蒙特利尔的地铁只有法语报站，没有英语报站
我大天朝的地铁比辣鸡TTC不知道要高到哪里去了
Xu Zhuojun 但是好像很多信息都只有普通话，广州所有的广播均有三语，与港铁类似
I love Shanghai！ 我爱上海！
Chinese Shanghai New Line 2's departure sound is similar to British London Jubilee Line
All the people who pass by just stare at the camera like “Is he doing what I think he’s doing?”
3:03 that's dangerous how fast the doors close
WOw zbrdast yar
I love the sound of a train in a tunnel
Had the pleasure of falling asleep and missing a changeover from the airport line and doing the round trip after a 14hr flight from Nairobi (no one bothered to wake up a black man 黑人). I ended up missing the last train to Wenzhou, getting a stomach upset and taking a bus to wenzhou where I was given a bed next to the toilet of the bus. I enjoyed the ride surprisingly 😂😂😂. Beijing people are more welcoming though... Shanghai surprised me everytime.🙄
As I was riding one it took 30-45 secs for my arrival at the next stations
Do you have any clue on why it takes like 15 seconds to start the train? You make excellent videos by the way.
due to safety regulation in China, at every stop, an inspector have to visually observe the platform before departing to make sure everything is in good condition. i dont know if it is really nescessary but that is just a few step more to achieve safety .
Because the platform edge/screen doors are not interlocked with the signalling system and therefore cannot be synchronised with the train doors. Also line 2 is not fitted with them from the start, whereas line 1 has the screen doors as part of its design.
Okay thanks for the answers!
good video
Line 2 doesn't have barriers... In Beijing...
Line2 and line 1 in Beijing was opened in 1968. So it's oldest line in Beijing subway
Warning to travelers: You should never, ever, ever, ever go on the Shanghai subway at *peak times* (rush hour) unless absolutely necessary. There's a literal sea of people. People often debate about which lines are the most crowded, but as of my experience the worst are lines 2, 5, 9 and 16. AVOID. You will NOT be able to get in at 8 o'clock, especially at a station like People's Square. And even if you get in, you will not be able to get out. 1, 6, and 8 close behind these four. The comparatively better ones are 10 and 13.
I am actually from Beijing, but I think that Shanghai does better in subway maintained and it doesn't seem overcrowded and dirty compare to Beijing.
播音广告竟然这么多……
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我是看到標語多了些，整體而言上海地鐵相當不錯。
They haven't English announcement as Singapore and Hongkong ?
11:30 TRIGGERED