@@juliusay9430 It's really a combination of many things. Messing with GRUB, OneDrive Documents hijacking, the Recall fiasco(s), the LLM scraping market, telemetry, advertising in the start menu, forced upgrades to new OS versions, and so on. It really is a terrible, awful, company. However, Windows is certainly still usable. This guide is more for those people that really get bothered by that stuff. Many folks don't and that's completely fine. :D
The nice thing about Linux is that there are usually multiple methods to success, each tailored to the needs of the user. I've been running Mint (OK, I went through a few distributions before I got here) since Microsoft's Recall announcement in May. Mint has a default desktop layout similar enough to Windows 10 that a Luddite like myself feels comfortable pretty quickly, and I've found that everything I've tried through the Software Manager has worked out of the gate. I went the Steam route, and although it works I don't particularly like the need to leave their background client running while I play. I see Bottles in Mint's software manager, thanks to your video here I'm going to try running the EVE launcher directly. Thank you (again) for sharing!
You are my savior. I tried getting Eve to work on my Mint XFCE laptop a few weeks ago and failed miserably. And that was with Steam. Bottles is apparently a thing on Mint as well. I will be giving this a go sometime soon. Thank you so much for putting this together. One step closer to wiping windows off my main computer for good!
Pop! OS looks awesome. If I wasn't so locked into the multboxing stuff (and needed Davinci Resolve compatibility), I would have absolutely chosen that distro!
Jumped to Mint a few years ago, still learning. Never considered moving my game activity off Win10 to my Mint machine, but this has got me thinking. Cheers (and thanks for the Darwin and Nomad series as well)!
proton is still a compatibility layer that runs on every client. I can get up to 10 clients working on windows, which I do for a week every expansion with the 7 days free omega ;) But on linux 3 clients is enough to tank system performance. I'll certainly give it another shot with bottles though, anything to help set windows on fire.
gnome does have an extension that shows a preview image of each workspace, but seeing as the comment I typed last night about it is no longer here, I guess youtube doesn't want you guys to know about that
@@chloroken I posted the exact package name -- a google search would bring you right to it. but I guess instructions on how to find it are treated the same as a link
Fantastic explanation. You'd be surprised how well Eve runs everywhere. The native ARM clients for Mac and Linux x86 compatibility (need to actually test ARM versions on Linux to make that claim) make it easy for you to play on almost anything you have access to.
Love that it works on Mac. I wonder what type of client switching/thumbnail options are available? If only I knew someone who was into Apple stuff... sheesh, life is hard.
I really love the idea of moving over to Linux... this Vid is amazing and covers most all of the "issues" i think i have... but eve-o not working is probs the final thing! maybe there is a workspace preview thing that some Linux guru knows about that can sit on the 2nd screen or something? i live in hope!
There absolutely is way more to this than what I've shown here. You can configure workspaces in a number of awesome ways with gnome-shell-extensions. I've done this video completely vanilla, but I will do a follow-up after I've perfected my setup. Thanks for the comment, Parody!
Thanks for showing people this. I switched to archlinux some time ago and I think most eve players could handle setting up any linux distro easily. My initial setup was just launching eve through steam but I think ill try this method just to see how it compares.
Hey, I do you use Linux too to play Eve, though I used Lutris instead of Bottles, and KDE seems to run leaner on older system. I use CachyOS which is specific to gaming and has performance tweaks built-in. Never used fedora. But an install of Debian with Gnome run really slow on my system. Thanks for shoeing this we need to move away from Windows.
Lutris is awesome. I just wanted something a bit simpler. Fedora was mostly a choice because I use Davinci Resolve, and compatibility is a big concern for me. Thanks for the comment, I agree, this stuff is important.
Yeah, my keybinds are a friggin mess. I use 1-9 for modules, with shift/alt modifiers like it was WoW or something. It's silly. I do not recommend my keybinds. I would imagine many people would use the "next workspace" binds, but I like controlling them all individually. Thanks for the comment.
I've been using GHOST SPECTRE windows 10 22h2 for a while and extremely happy. it removes all the awful shit i hated about windows. just barebones windows kernel and ui with no bloat
The workspaces is GNOME specific, but you can add GNOME to most setups if you want. Otherwise Bottles ought to work with just about whatever, but I have not tested anything outside of Fedora.
Good luck~! As long as you can activate GNOME, this method is easy as pie. Otherwise if you just want to use Bottles, none of the distro stuff really even matters. Which rules.
For some reason I couldn't play it out of the box from steam.... It won't launch the launcher... Just appears the tray icon but won't launch the launcher... Tried some commands for. Protondb without success.
May I ask where you ran into trouble? I'm dual boxing while watching UA-cam on Mint right now. I took the wimp's way out and installed the Steam client, but because I only use two accounts Alt+Tab handles my switching just fine.
@@michaelkane6797 instaled steam normally, put eve in compatibility mode to be able to download and install eve in linux laptop... after instalation apparently normal, when clicking launch it wont open the launcher it jsut appears in the tray icon...
Was hoping this would work for me. Unfortunately when I run the eve-online exec from bottles it gives some obtuse Javascript error about a socket something. If I run it from the setup exe I get the launch screen but when select a character I just get a fullscreen blank screen. Guessing it is something with NVIDIA / Wayland or something. I will try the Steam route for now and see if it will run that way. At least that will tell me if it is a bottles thing or a driver thing.
Just checking, you carefully followed the setup? Like, you got the caffe runner, installed dotnet48, vcredist2022, AND enabled DXVK + turned on DX11 in the launcher? If Bottles isn't working and you did all that, I recommend just doing Steam for now. Wait for a future video I make and I'll attempt to troubleshoot this then. Sorry, I really am.
@@chloroken No worries. Yes, followed everything and retried from fresh bottle multiple times. Just posted to see if anyone else had a blank full screen after install. I got it working first go under Lutris. So all that matters is that I am Eve-in' under Fedora! Thanks for posting this vid as it got me thinking further about it along with the conversations a couple live streams ago. I know this kinda content has the potential of blowing up into a huge support forum and I admire your willingness to take that risk. Thanks again.
I'm glad you quit the game and are doing more productive things with your time, and I'm very sorry the game has changed, as all things do. But this type of hyperbole ain't helping anybody. Also, for what it's worth, you can emulate EVE if you want to experience the game without the players/devs.
I would be shocked if there was no way to do this kind of thing in mac. Sadly I don't have the hardware to test anything. :( At least the client works natively!
Missing the "caffe runner"? Click the 3-line menu button on the main Bottles interface, select preferences, then runners, and install caffe-9.7. Done!
What did I miss with Windows?
@@juliusay9430 It's really a combination of many things. Messing with GRUB, OneDrive Documents hijacking, the Recall fiasco(s), the LLM scraping market, telemetry, advertising in the start menu, forced upgrades to new OS versions, and so on. It really is a terrible, awful, company. However, Windows is certainly still usable. This guide is more for those people that really get bothered by that stuff. Many folks don't and that's completely fine. :D
Me who has never used linux, or probably never will: Ah yes, very good guide 👍
I tried to make it kind of infotainment, haha. Music and drawings~! Just added you back on Discord finally btw.
The nice thing about Linux is that there are usually multiple methods to success, each tailored to the needs of the user. I've been running Mint (OK, I went through a few distributions before I got here) since Microsoft's Recall announcement in May. Mint has a default desktop layout similar enough to Windows 10 that a Luddite like myself feels comfortable pretty quickly, and I've found that everything I've tried through the Software Manager has worked out of the gate.
I went the Steam route, and although it works I don't particularly like the need to leave their background client running while I play. I see Bottles in Mint's software manager, thanks to your video here I'm going to try running the EVE launcher directly. Thank you (again) for sharing!
I love this comment so much. You got this shiz. :) Hit me up if you have issues
You are my savior. I tried getting Eve to work on my Mint XFCE laptop a few weeks ago and failed miserably. And that was with Steam. Bottles is apparently a thing on Mint as well.
I will be giving this a go sometime soon. Thank you so much for putting this together. One step closer to wiping windows off my main computer for good!
You looooove to see it. Thanks for letting me know. Ding me with a comment once you get it all setup!
Already ditched Win11 and moved to Pop-OS and works great. The workspaces "trick" has some promise... have to give it a go. Thanks for SHARING!!!
Pop! OS looks awesome. If I wasn't so locked into the multboxing stuff (and needed Davinci Resolve compatibility), I would have absolutely chosen that distro!
You just made my day… already using fedora and downloading bottles and this video is perfect. I’ll let you know how it turns out
Worked like a champ, Thank You
I love that for you.
So this is fantastic thank you again Choloroken.
Please update us if updates break stuff. So glad i saw this had not seen bottles before. 🎉😁
I will update as often as necessary. Exciting stufffff
Jumped to Mint a few years ago, still learning. Never considered moving my game activity off Win10 to my Mint machine, but this has got me thinking. Cheers (and thanks for the Darwin and Nomad series as well)!
proton is still a compatibility layer that runs on every client. I can get up to 10 clients working on windows, which I do for a week every expansion with the 7 days free omega ;) But on linux 3 clients is enough to tank system performance. I'll certainly give it another shot with bottles though, anything to help set windows on fire.
Yeah, no promises on performance. I use potato graphics when multiboxing and cap it at 4. Wishing you luck inw the F windows mission.
gnome does have an extension that shows a preview image of each workspace, but seeing as the comment I typed last night about it is no longer here, I guess youtube doesn't want you guys to know about that
Did you post a link? It may have gobbled it up. Also I will be doing a followup later with shell extension tweaks for better switching. Thanks.
@@chloroken I posted the exact package name -- a google search would bring you right to it. but I guess instructions on how to find it are treated the same as a link
gnome-shell-wsmatrix #nocontext
Thanks Darkness. Sorry UA-cam clapped up your comments. I swear it's not my choice. XD
You already had Caffe runner install, but viewers might need to hit 3 lines, preferences, runners, install runner caffee-9.7
Thanks. Should be okay but ty for the correction! First tutorial :)
Incredible content.
10/10
Fantastic explanation. You'd be surprised how well Eve runs everywhere. The native ARM clients for Mac and Linux x86 compatibility (need to actually test ARM versions on Linux to make that claim) make it easy for you to play on almost anything you have access to.
Love that it works on Mac. I wonder what type of client switching/thumbnail options are available? If only I knew someone who was into Apple stuff... sheesh, life is hard.
@@chloroken I know a guy... I'll report my, err - his findings shortly
I really love the idea of moving over to Linux... this Vid is amazing and covers most all of the "issues" i think i have... but eve-o not working is probs the final thing! maybe there is a workspace preview thing that some Linux guru knows about that can sit on the 2nd screen or something? i live in hope!
There absolutely is way more to this than what I've shown here. You can configure workspaces in a number of awesome ways with gnome-shell-extensions. I've done this video completely vanilla, but I will do a follow-up after I've perfected my setup. Thanks for the comment, Parody!
It's official. If this works as well as it looks, i might finally be able to wave goodbye to windows for good!
Worked on stream today!! Hi Raygr! Good luck
Thanks for showing people this. I switched to archlinux some time ago and I think most eve players could handle setting up any linux distro easily. My initial setup was just launching eve through steam but I think ill try this method just to see how it compares.
ill be switching to linux this weekend so, Nice!
Hell. Yes.
Hey, thanks for the guide! Im seasoned with other LinuxDistros, but not with fedora. Is Bottles compatible with other Distros?
Should be!
Yep; Mint with Cinnamon reporting: it's Alive!
@@PrisionerOfDudael very bueno. Fellow Cinnamon enjoyer here
Now I kinda want to use Linux myself for eve... damn 😂
Try a dual boot with Mint! It's fun and harmless.:)
Hey, I do you use Linux too to play Eve, though I used Lutris instead of Bottles, and KDE seems to run leaner on older system. I use CachyOS which is specific to gaming and has performance tweaks built-in. Never used fedora. But an install of Debian with Gnome run really slow on my system. Thanks for shoeing this we need to move away from Windows.
Lutris is awesome. I just wanted something a bit simpler. Fedora was mostly a choice because I use Davinci Resolve, and compatibility is a big concern for me. Thanks for the comment, I agree, this stuff is important.
Assume you have remapped the top module activation F1-Fx in Eve to not interfere with desktop switching?
Yeah, my keybinds are a friggin mess. I use 1-9 for modules, with shift/alt modifiers like it was WoW or something. It's silly. I do not recommend my keybinds. I would imagine many people would use the "next workspace" binds, but I like controlling them all individually. Thanks for the comment.
I've been using GHOST SPECTRE windows 10 22h2 for a while and extremely happy. it removes all the awful shit i hated about windows. just barebones windows kernel and ui with no bloat
This might have been touched on in the video but will this work with any distro that supports bottles?
The workspaces is GNOME specific, but you can add GNOME to most setups if you want. Otherwise Bottles ought to work with just about whatever, but I have not tested anything outside of Fedora.
Heyyy, was trying eve in Linux mint just moments ago and failed miserably... Will try to follow your steps as I didn't do severall of them... Thanks
Good luck~! As long as you can activate GNOME, this method is easy as pie. Otherwise if you just want to use Bottles, none of the distro stuff really even matters. Which rules.
The steam version also works out of the box
For some reason I couldn't play it out of the box from steam.... It won't launch the launcher... Just appears the tray icon but won't launch the launcher... Tried some commands for. Protondb without success.
May I ask where you ran into trouble? I'm dual boxing while watching UA-cam on Mint right now. I took the wimp's way out and installed the Steam client, but because I only use two accounts Alt+Tab handles my switching just fine.
@@michaelkane6797 instaled steam normally, put eve in compatibility mode to be able to download and install eve in linux laptop... after instalation apparently normal, when clicking launch it wont open the launcher it jsut appears in the tray icon...
Hey mate! Can you help us with a video how to configure the docker Pathfinder? Preaty please!!
Was hoping this would work for me. Unfortunately when I run the eve-online exec from bottles it gives some obtuse Javascript error about a socket something. If I run it from the setup exe I get the launch screen but when select a character I just get a fullscreen blank screen. Guessing it is something with NVIDIA / Wayland or something. I will try the Steam route for now and see if it will run that way. At least that will tell me if it is a bottles thing or a driver thing.
Just checking, you carefully followed the setup? Like, you got the caffe runner, installed dotnet48, vcredist2022, AND enabled DXVK + turned on DX11 in the launcher? If Bottles isn't working and you did all that, I recommend just doing Steam for now. Wait for a future video I make and I'll attempt to troubleshoot this then. Sorry, I really am.
@@chloroken No worries. Yes, followed everything and retried from fresh bottle multiple times. Just posted to see if anyone else had a blank full screen after install. I got it working first go under Lutris. So all that matters is that I am Eve-in' under Fedora! Thanks for posting this vid as it got me thinking further about it along with the conversations a couple live streams ago. I know this kinda content has the potential of blowing up into a huge support forum and I admire your willingness to take that risk. Thanks again.
Good guide! Too bad I use Arch, KDE, and Lutris
Hi lucifirius! Arch look so cool but a bit beyond me for now~ I'll be checking out lots of distros next year. Can't wait. Thanks for the comment.
@@chloroken it's more room to mess up, definitely not for everyone. If you like Fedora then there's no need to change
I'm way too new to say I like anything. I want to tinker with packages on Arch! I want to play with declarative stuff with nix! Just in due time.
if only eve was not 90% bots and slowly being driven into the abyss by pearl abyss
I'm glad you quit the game and are doing more productive things with your time, and I'm very sorry the game has changed, as all things do. But this type of hyperbole ain't helping anybody.
Also, for what it's worth, you can emulate EVE if you want to experience the game without the players/devs.
I would love to how that is done
Mac users: we exist 🥺
Literally dozens of u o7
I would be shocked if there was no way to do this kind of thing in mac. Sadly I don't have the hardware to test anything. :( At least the client works natively!
Sell that fashion statement and get a PC.
Sadly most applications I use are only on Windows and don't work well in Wine ¬.¬
What's an example? Did you watch the video? Bottles can handle everything without needing to configure WINE.