AI music is OUT OF CONTROL (what the hell do we do?)
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Best thing that has, and ever will come out of AI is the song “I glued my balls to my butthole again”
Change my mind
Hey dude, I'm still fighting over the compensation issue. We don't compensate the bands we have been inspired with to create our music.. Why should a.i.?
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@@roboverholt9959 AI using an existing artist's work is more akin to sampling than it is to just being influenced by
I just going to mention that ElevenLabs just showed of their new music generator,that is much better than both UDIO and SUNO.
The problem is not musicians using AI. It is corporate deciding they don't need musicians and an undergrad with AI will do, just like they already decided that singers don't really need to sing, for example.
Its the listeners decision to listen to AI music or real musicians. Corporate cant control what you want to listen to, so just dont listen to it
no ones gonna listen to AI, a big part of the music industry is about making an artist people look up to etc. think taylor swift, kanye, even michael jackson
@@killjoy1056 but they do. It's called marketing. You are approaching this argument as a musician or as a person that has some kind of music culture. But 90% of the people on this planet consume music as a passive form of entertainment, mostly for dancing or to keep it in the background while doing other things. You are not the target of the music industry, you are a niche market. The real question is, will in the future this niche market be big enough to sustain itself or original music will be mostly turn into an hobby? And I'm talking about pure musicians, not like here on youtube or twitch were the job profile is video makers that make entertainment for musicians.
Good point. I remember watching the movie called Simone released in 2002. It stared Al Pacino who was a director that was sick of dealing with diva actresses. He got connected with a software guy that made an AI actress for him. No doubt the majors would be happy to get rid of their superstars and all of their problems if they could.
@@CheesyMez In Japan virtual singers that do live concerts using holograms have been a thing for more than a decade now. They have a huge market and they are also becoming more popular in the west. The Masses don't need a real human, they need a character.
I play because I enjoy it, and an AI can never enjoy something for me.
Very true
until u get a usb-dopamine adapter integrated into ur brain
Money. Money money money.
Imagine if real musicians (not the wannabe-popstar kind) could actually earn their living by playing music on a stage to an audience. They would have nothing to fear from AI.
Oh wait... 😊
Hell, it’ll be fun to use some AI trickery if you’re creative.
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yoo, what the actual.. this is rly weird
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The creator of Cowboy Bebop did a DELIGHTFUL show called "Carole & Tuesday" about a future where two singer-songwriters make waves by creating original compositions in a music scene almost exclusively dominated by AI songwriting tools and the prompters who work them. It's one of the most touching odes I've ever seen to the songwriting process, and is a great companion piece to this video.
This comment deserves more likes and more people should watch this anime.
I'd also say Pluto is a solid tertiary anime about the larger implications of artificial intelligence.
rad
Thanks for the tip.
AI will very soon be able to "create" any type of song you ask it, and it will be very funny to a lot of people for some time.
Also, it will be able to generate you any type of video, movie etc.
The good thing is, once everyone will have that kind of power on their phone / computer, they will finally realize why that doesn't bring them any kind of happiness.
Because what is missing is our human interaction, call it soul to soul interaction if you will.
Once we all realize that, I believe we will much more appreciate any kind of real human creativity and interaction.
In a way, we had to be lost to find each others again, and to appreciate each others more.
I, perhaps naively, agree with this. It will gradually lead people to more live music as more and more people use AI.
Any type except one it hasn't heard before
ok, but this cycle will take about 30 years to go through and by then will have bigger problems in the world we'll be dealing with
For regular people you're probably right. But corporate executives, and shareholders don't care about that. They care about money, and they run the world. Even if we don't use it, every single thing they produce will be soulless, generative, and empty. Not just art, but also every productive job there is. We're all being replaced, and in a just world that would destroy these companies, but I have my doubts about it being a just world.
yeah except music and movies have been fake as fuck for 30 years and nobody gives a shit
There's one thing that no AI can ever replace no matter what, and that's the fun and joy you can find in playing an instrument.
yup. and i appreciate ai
majority of people don't care about that though.
@StaticR wise words
Playing music generated by AI...
That was lame bro
I'm picturing an AI songwriter in a studio and the record exec says come on we need a hit now and the AI is too drunk to perform, unable to cope with the pressure of fame and fortune. Spiraling from AI drugs and hookers
Overclock me again? Just one more time? I"m good for it
AI: Artificial Inebriation
That almost sounds like the plot of a South Parl episode 😂
LOL. Like the drum machine in Dethklok.
It's been partying and caught a virus.
Fiver’s gonna be empty in a couple years😭
Or it will just be flooded with this
All human labor will be replaced by AI. Billions will be left to starve and die. The only jobs available for humans will be washing toilets, scrubbing floors, picking tomatoes, etc., that is if it will prove to be cheaper done by humans than manufacture robots to do those chores.
Nah, the AI songwriters will all be locked behind annual subscriptions.
It's not just artists. It's everyone who works for a living. Businesses may not be able to pull it off, but that's absolutely what they want.
On the contrary, I'd be more concerned with it being full of people using AI prompts to complete orders instead. =/
The silver lining to this dystopian development is that live performances will become exponentially more valuable. Recordings will become dull commodities for business while human generated art will become less digitized as people will be hungry for art that is devoid from computers. Fortunately for us guitarists, people will be interested to hear us play as there is no faking it and it takes years of practice to not sound like trash. As a fingerstyle guitarist, I feel very secure in the potential future of live performances. Who knows, but it’s just a guess.
Excellent comment!
I have been thinking the same thing. If AI becomes the best “musician” in the world who cares. People who actually pay for music want to hear music made by humans. That is our market.
What if musicians become lazy and play AI generated music?
I like your optimism.
Absolutely felt this watching the first live performance of “I Glued My Balls to My Butthole Again.”
My hope is that the end result of this will be an increase in the value of music performed live and with minimal tech.
Hope so
or maximum tech, whatever, as long as it is made with passion, like, for example, check out Look Mom No Computer
@@emilelesaffre that's something that I hope, the over proliferation of AI music might make people go and enjoy live music
Playing AI generated music...
I'm hoping that the AI revolution also brings about a renaissance for independent artists. That people who don't want the computer generated stuff that will be put out by the big 3 will turn to those of us who are doing it on our own the old fashioned way.
Well said.
I think AI could be interesting from a strictly Duchamp Readymades view. A while back I was playing with an AI image generator and I was feeding it nonsense concepts like fish shaped toaster. It mainly produced garbage, but made one image that looked as if it was a Williams Sonoma catalog snap. I think a fun piece of Dada would be a catalog of fictitious housewares products generated from prompts. I suppose the ad copy would need similar generation, and getting the joke across might prove hard.
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My guess: Stock music for commercials,tv, small documentaries, youtube videos just to set a mood is going to be pretty much dead, fivver artists are going to have a hard time too (including voice over work), composers for film and big tv series are still going to be needed but even more limited, live music for genres such as classical, rock,metal,jazz,funk,etc,etc in which you definitely need to know how to play is going to be more appreciated in some years making a comeback for these genres and perhaps leaving others behind.
"composers for film and big tv series"
I'd agree with you here if it weren't for the fact that most modern soundtracks have been Zimmer-fied into being textures rather than songs. I doubt the big blockbuster movies will move to AI in this regard anytime soon as the composer can sometimes be as big of a drawing card as the director or an actor but I think we'll see it in a lot of films and tv shows.
It's also going to get its absolute crap together making radio jingles now that they've licked a lot of the voice glitching problem.
Love your outlook keep on keepin on
Deepblue beat Kasparov at chess in 1997, and for over 25 years now, even the best player in the world hasn't stood a chance against an AI. Does that mean we've stopped playing chess? No, we continue to play for pleasure, for sport, for art, between humans and for humans. There are few differences between the way an AI and a human create art, one of which is "the intention" to create. So as long as we want to create, we'll make art, whereas AI will produce contents.
One of the best takes I've read about AI art, thank you for this
This is very true I was just watching Norway chess and of course they have the engine bar showing the evaluation. It was still fun watching humans make mistakes
Man!
as always, really sober but optimistic wiew on the thing. Thank you for that!
7:00 While I agree with your point, this really only applies to artists in the MUSIC industry. Musicians who do film score, video game score, music FOR media... What's gonna happen to them?
unless you are affected in some way by it, then shouldn't let it bother you. they wouldn't take a second look on the news of AI taking a normal job.
@@GhostWriter_Music bruh, why else do you think I brought it up lol, that's my job.
@@powerowl2120 well you said "them" referring to those who do the work and not "us" which would refer to them and you.
@@GhostWriter_Music okay Einstein semantics aside you still haven't offered anything of substance. Just stop replying and go about your life. If you have nothing important to say just keep it to yourself
@@GhostWriter_Music and regardless, just because it doesn't affect me directly doesn't mean I should ignore it. You ever read the famous poem "first they came"? It's all about letting others be swept away by a force because you perceive it to be a non-threat to you, but once it comes for you it dawns on you that there is nobody left to save you, you let them all down, and thus they will be nowhere to be found.
I'd rather do what I think is right rather than plug my senses and let the world burn
"Seeing music played live" and then showing Molly Tuttle and Billy Strings sharing the stage - Excellent Choice. Go See Those Artists Play Live!!
Holy moleys. Such a well crafted video honestly. 🤯
Crafted with AI.
I've been saying this for a long time, but I think the reason we don't have mainstream bands anymore is that big labels figured out that a singular pop star is more cost effective (and less of a liability) than a 3-5 piece band. If they figure out a way to incorporate AI in songwriting, instrumentation, production, arrangement etc. instead of their human counterparts, it could very well be the end of the music industry as we know it and the beginning of something completely different.
Yes, that's correct. Only, now apply that same line of thinking to every kind of productive work that people do, not just art. If it can replace artists, then it can certainly replace normal job labor. We're on a very ugly path.
People stopped buying music and the money ran out. Everyone gets it for free, Spotify is music theft basically, only the big music corporations get decent rates. Society is in serious trouble... No money to develop bands anymore...
Bands always fight each other too. Little entitled bitches arguing over something petty....Or having 5 guys and hoping that 1 of them doesn't implode with drugs or whatever. Those little whiners made it go that way.
I play in a band that has a lead guy. He is THE MAN...on acoustic and vocals. I love him. We all do. And he gets the gigs and promotes them. We are payed average. Sometimes a little better. ......"but"....😅.... He really does not let us shine like we could because....as much as we love him (and need the money)...The fact is that, he has that "I am the big star and you are just hired" attitude. And we are all friends? So we won't be playing Peaches en Regalia.. Or anything slightly jazzy or progressive. He will not be saying to the audience "Now let me show you what these guys can do!"..... Nope. Stick to the formula! So as I say. End of solo NOW!!!!!
The music biz sucked from the very beginning.
Thank you for bringing up the ethics part. And the compensation. It's something that a lot of folks tend to ignore when they use generative AI tools.
There is nothing ethical about AI developers. They have stolen centuries long through blood, sweat and tears created human culture without devising a mechanism to guard humanity from the dangers ensuing, that will make them billions, rendering all artists dead or living irrelevant.
Nicely done. You're looking after all us musicians, Sensei! Thank you.
We’ve all improvised Blues rock songs nightly on the spot or belted out a Meatloaf parody with the acoustic. Like AI we’ve heard both a million times.
In 2019 it sounded like old video game music. Now it sounds like Frank Stallone movie soundtrack tunes.
"🎶 THE SAMURAI STRUMS THROUGH THE NIGHT 🎶"
😂
This is one of the few videos that have given me hope on this subject
I cannot perceive any hope no matter what.
He's a youtuber... If he made his living purely from writing of playing music, he wouldn't be so blasé
I think TV, film and video game music will end up being almost exclusively AI. Professional background music is toast.
Yup. That's depressing
And as an artist, I've lost my illustrator job because of midjourney.
The future is bleak
Really ???@@smthnew861
I doubt it tbh. Yes that will definitely happen, but directors are artists too and they’ll appreciate real music
@@horusgaming8797 maybe today's directors are artists too...
Very thoughtful and intelligent video, thanx!
I am the AI subject matter expert for my office if ~300 engineering staff. Our company overall is ~50k internationally. I really enjoy your perspective. I am very interested in ethics and how we handle it regarding AI. I view the current trend like an arms race and from a legal perspective we are kicking the ethical can down the road to ensure we beat the competition from other countries. It’s very interesting to discuss/debate.
Good and thoughtful piece that deserves a wider audience (eg in print).
BTW I love that you represent the importance of live music with a clip of Billy Strings and Molly Tuttle. Perfect example.
Man, I've been trying to say the exact same argument about copying vs innovating from exiting sources for the physical art as well. All artists learn by copying other existing artists, then adding their own subtle twists to it, until they develop their own style. NO one just exists in a void and creates art. You learn solely through replication then experimentation.
Then what about the first musicians? It had to start somewhere.
@@ganglestank this might be completely wrong and dumb, but ... maybe they copied bird song?
@@lurakin88 I don't think that's dumb at all. In fact, I think that could very well have been one of the things that inspired the first musicians
What I take from other artists is rarely just copying; sometimes it's doing the exact opposite of what I hear, or just seeing someone break a pattern and trying to come up with my own way of breaking that pattern. Or maybe I see someone doing something interesting in a drawing and wonder "what's analogous to this in music?" Or I get ideas out of some self-imposed challenge or restriction. Or I fuck around on an instrument or twist random knobs on a synth until I find something cool. Or I hear a wacky noise in nature and sample it. Or I just want to express an experience in my life. Art isn't just made by mashing up other art, it also comes from the real world. What I had for breakfast today probably factors into my art in ways I can't even realize.
@@ganglestank😮 the first musicians were copying the sounds they heard in nature animals making and all that kind of s*** then we remixed it into the first human music😮 also would you call human music is just copying all the weird s*** and sounds created from auditory hallucinations when you're tripping on mushrooms and other psychedelics so really human music has always been a copy of mushrooms and plants and s*** like that😮 and if you really taken mushrooms or DMT you'd begin to understand we don't have culture we stole all of our ideas from mushrooms and plants😮 and now robot are going to steal all of our ideas from us this is just nature guys
More videos like this. Please. You could be a great video essay UA-camr
the fact ai came up with "the samurai strums through the night" is lowkey scary to me
Nice Molly Tuttle/Billy Strings drop in there...:)
Man that’s depressing, the sentence “how much is a really good song worth? Not much” is So true. So many small local songwriters and bands who have amazing songs are never appreciated.
SamurAI can never take over Samurai ....
Yeah, finally the shroud has come off of SamurAI. I've had my suspicions for a while.
i NEED a full version of the samurai guitarist song
Every time I get bummed out about AI, I try to think about all things that were once rumored to kill something and then it was the opposite. I mean, people in the 50's thought television was going to render cinema obsolete, and it's still here, and people in the 80's thought synthesisers were going to kill real musicians, and they're still here. I get why many people are afraid, but it's probably not gonna be as bad as we think.
Cinema is dying due to streaming though…
@@Flyingwithoutmings And television has been dead for ages. Anyway, none of those examples mentioned above are remotely close to being as dangerous as AI. Soon enough, as AI improves at an astonishing rate, we won't be able to discern what is real and what is not real.
@@TieNylon that’s already happening!
Social media is literally dooming us tho
The examples from past you've mentioned are irrelevant in this case because those were the distribution technologies. AI is the creative technology.
I’m amazed that it’s totally legal for a computer to search the internet and steal anything it likes then regurgitate it and repackage it as original material. I’m talking photos, art, music, writing - basically anything creative. I’ve heard that some AI art is being attributed to fake people with fake bios. If something isn’t done to stop this, and stop it fast, in a couple of years we won’t know what’s real anymore. It’s frightening.
"the beauty of music is that we all do it differently" ❤
Oh crap that's close!
great vid
Thanks!
It's possible to make a videoclip with Ur music and you performing with AI that put u in different locations and weird ppl or situations etc etc? If it's actually possible which app it's needed? And passages?
It's interesting how we have almost same suggested videos and that I'm also into Otoboke Beaver 😁
Gave it a try, and I have to say that I'm quite shocked.
Was under the impression that it could only make decent mainstream music for thats what its most likely trained on.
But wow was so wrong. This thing also makes makes great underground noisy stuff, faster than that I can even start to plug in my guitar pedals.
Lets see ai put on a live, unplugged, acoustic performance on a city street corner or a late night coffee house.
It will generate more money and listens and will never need to busk.
@@laartwork I'm not talking about money or "hit counts". I'm talking about live performances where you can physically see the musicians playing and holding instruments. Ai cannot do that.
@@nd6286 Vocaloid, and the Gorrillaz have been doing live holo-performances for a while now. Theystill sll tickets.
@@nd6286 But you do realize that it will put everyone who doesn't do live performances out of a job, right?
@@hireathecho4 can I say that with absolute certainy, I don't think I can but, I'd be lying if I said that It didn't truly concern me.
ngl that 2019 ai riff goes HARDDDD
As long as instruments are built and people still learn to play them, write music, form bands, and record said music, AI isn't a threat-until AI decides humans are unnecessary.
We still love music shows, live shows, live bands (weddings etc.). Something that AI can't replace. I don't think anybody will become massive fan of certain AI.
Video game music, background music, tv and movie music might be replaced by AI music to some degree.
Music has the ability to convey complex emotions and experiences way more than mere words ever could. I honestly feel like with the ability to quickly and effortlessly generate complete songs it could potentially lead to music becoming a major part of everyday communication to extend the limitations of our languages.
Signed up for the new course, and I'm curious when the live streams are planned for. Hoping I'm not working haha.
Music is probably the one area that AI can be successful in. Especially as a content creator myself in multiple areas, when musicians are mostly paid to perform, it'll come down to how heavily the musician relies on AI where it might break an interest in a musician. However, you also have the other end when you have BOI WHAT where you know the vocals are completely AI and mixing.
And I think that'll be the big difference compared to artists, developers and other parts of the entertainment field. But, the biggest challenge is the ethical usage of AI, especially when corporations are involved and flat-out lazy musicians/those trying to make a cheap cash grab.
My biggest issue with AI is when authors and "artists/illustrators" use it. Mainly when you can see it's those that want the monicker when they didn't put the work in. Writers in the case where the person is a glorified editor than writing the story themselves, but especially in art where artists will see the shortcomings (and in some cases flat-out show a better rendition with their own technique).
Regardless, good video
This is what it feels like when a chess engine is better than top players of the world. Take that , musicians.
All true. Checkout any top 10 list. The masses don't care about "good music" anymore. I think only music nerds do care now. As you said, the value of a good song is about nothing.
Remember that's what your grandparents said about YOUR top 10 list.
I Think A.i is a blessing in disguise. If you really think about it, for over a century Creativity has been hindered by a corporate demand for "product". The artist who were most successful in the past were those who were able to find balance between staying true to their art/community, and satisfying the corporate powers that be. Most everyone else got a degree, learned a trade, started a business or a family. But there was always this OTHER special breed of artist. The type who were in the background. They were a little tech, or business savvy, and knew how to navigate special areas of the market. The Gouache painter who only worked in advertising, the writer who only worked in underwriting, the musician who only composed for educational videos and commercials. This latter breed of artist is who's in trouble as Ai proliferates. When money or career are the sole objective, then "Corporate Art" becomes only a means to an end. Your art becomes product in a volatile supply chain like any other product bought and sold in a Capitalist system. And like with any product, corporations are going try to procure as much of it as quickly and cheaply as possible with little regard to it's quality or originator.
I believe Ai.will mostly become a tool for the cooperate artist or project manager. It will mostly displace jobs for those who already were or were becoming corporate artists. I think in doing so, there will be a true renaissance in the arts. People will need to ask themselves why they're doing art in the first place if they can't make a living. If you do it for love, you will be a badass artist. If you do it for money, you'll have to find another way to make a living.
Audiences are not going to Ai. concerts. They're not going to a museum that displays Ai. memes on big screens. They want to hear music and see/feel/read art from REAL badass artists. And if you do hang in there, learn magic and become a badass, you WILL do just fine.
Oh no. The short clip at 4:22 is catchy enough that I want to hear a whole version.
I'm sharing this with my band and explaining why I was wearing my Sammy G t shirt at our biggest gig last year!
Loved the video❤❤❤
When you spoke about the human experience and the life lived as a musician, it was well said brother... Keep on rockin' in the free world!! 🌄👊🤠🎸🔥🌈🌎
Oh we groove a lot at Hypersonic!! 😉🤖 *bip bip*
Great perspective. The other reason I'm not worried is AI requires data to train the model. If the only data training the model is AI generated content it is a bit like inbreeding. While pop music may become primarily AI generated, I'm excited about the counter-culture movement that AI pop will trigger! Could we possibly be treated with a new punk-like movement? I could be wrong here, I was horribly disappointed with the music that spawned from COVID and polar political environment in the US. These were events that should have produced the best music in our lifetime and I haven't heard anything that I feel lives up to my high expectations and maybe the anti-AI music movement will quench my thirst for that counter culture musical movement I long for. Keep pumping the quality content, thanks SG.
I anticipate a time where human generated content, with all it's flaws, will be seen as more desirable than flawless content generated from AI.
I checked it out... Yeah it is waaaaayy better. It can compose pretty good, but has yet to do crazy runs or nail the inflections like a real virtuoso. It sounds like maybe it's creating a video we can't see of how the fingers move, then translating that into sound. I used to think there would be no chance, but maybe in a few years I'll be able to listen to endless never-before-heard Yngwie albums from 1986.
Not only was it evident immediately to anyone who spent a life in the blues but what it generated was only good enough for a Ford commercial. Musicians were devalued long before AI. Anyone who quits because of it wasn’t in it for the music. The only threat is to business. Business always had so little to do with music that Ted Greene died in virtual obscurity while Lenny Breau was thrown in the swimming pool.
I guess the playing of music by humans will eventually just be for the musician. Just woodshed concerts for one. Sam is a sage-always insightful.
Oh shlits yeah that thing's going to get really really good at writing radio jingles if we let it.
Jason Becker is in a wheelchair and he doesn’t use A.I just eye movement to write notes
I read a Sci-Fi series that actually did imply that Londonderry Air was brought here by aliens 6 million years ago, who were also the basis for a lot of celtic mythology. And accidentally kickstarted intelligent humans' evolution.
The main difference between AI generated, and Human made, is that the human had fun doing it.
Yes! That point isn’t mentioned enough. It all started as a hobby for anyone working in an artistic field.
Not only that but real art, made by real people has the ability to inspire others.
Put yourself in the shoes of a kid growing up around that technology…
A kid in the 70’s might hear The Beatles on the radio and go :
“Mom! I want a guitar for Christmas”
But who exactly is a kid, born in 2030, listening to the top 40 generated pop songs supposed to relate to?
If there isn’t a human in sight for them to identify with, what even is the point?
What have we gained from that technology that we didn’t already have with real people?
It’s just quantity, at the cost of everything else…
yes but thats about it
@@The1QwertySky Still a pretty important difference….
Also, are you really sure you can’t think of anything else?
It's what makes it worth listening to, worth learning, worth aspiring to.
It's the difference between "oh my" and "oh well"
Fine when you just do music. If you wanna sell it usually your clients care about the output not about your fun. 😅
More like Samur-A.I. Guitarist
I like the song from 5 years ago a lot more than what you played today 😜
@0:54 😂 the 5 year old AI sounds like Radiohead
I'm going to try to embrace this AI as a tool now. The generated work could be an excellent preliminary piece which I can enhance upon, but I'm not sure if I would trust it as a full replacement. Too many moving parts which would need to be tailored to my taste, which I'm not sure an algorithm can do just yet. When music can be made custom for a person, whether it's like a cup of coffee or like a four course meal, that's probably when I'll be worried.
But on another note, no pun intended, I am curious as to how copyright will play a role in this. How much modification will it take to consider the generated piece eligible for copyright? How do you keep the IP out of training datasets? I can only pick apart the tech, but the legal matters go way over my head.
I really don't get why they didn't train the ai on individual instruments first. cos if they did that, and found some way to teach music theory, then it would still produce the same shit, but artists wouldn't be able to complain about it. music isn't an individuals creation anymore, its the work of 10 different people, and their stuff still sounds mediocre.
Keeping up with the times
Even wearing a Samur AI guitarist t-shirt...
😀
Oh yeah one last thing before I go have a look into radio GPT and super Hi-Fi AI radio. And remember when you open the doors to the car that's hanging half off the edge be very calm be very slow and be very very careful.
First radio play of a Udio AI song was last night on Oystermouth Radio at just after 9:15pm. The show should be repeated tonight at the same time.
Like Tim Henson spoke about on Rick Beato's channel, AI will be a useful tool in creating new music that will be performed by people. It's good for inspiration, but like you said, it can't truly capture the human element of music.
I posted some A.I. stuff because it's way better right than youtubers examples ua-cam.com/video/iS5w7xc8faQ/v-deo.htmlsi=C46UkknzwiTWsHqs
hahaha that rock song about the guitar playing samurai is 100% phil collins
Interesting video on a very important topic. The catch is that many greedy companies flat out don't care about human creativity, they only look at the bottom line. As a professional writer, I've been really facing this uphill battle for the past year.
Yup, AI is going to decimate a ton of jobs.
It always comes down to live performance, just as it has for centuries.
GT Supercar sounds like a post-irony band
As long as it's not using auto-tune.
I've just made an AI track of mixing traditional Indian music and drum'n bass. And i did it because that's the thing i'd like to hear myself and i'm listening to it and loving it.
Another thing i'd like to make is a drum'n blues, which is just one track i have found by Pretty Disgusting.
But as a musician i'm really thinking of using it as a tool. Making and assembling some parts of a track, some new sounds, more like a pallette than a generator.
And at the end i think to me music is more of a craftsmanship, i imagine it like a master blacksmith forging a katana somewhere in the middle of a modern city.
Do you use udio? Im thinking of using AI for inspiration as well
@@lifeisdead01 yeah, i've just tried it and was quite surprised with one harmonic turn it came up with. I think making this stuff in commercial way might impact an actual musicians in a way, but i really like to make something i like to listen to and i can't find being made by actual bands.
@@HeartcoreMitRA I honestly think suno is a bit better than udio, but they are both very good tools for inspiration.
"I wonder what a song made of a combination between this and that would sound like". Set the prompt and there you go. Then you can mess around with it, maybe use your own real instrument to jam with whatever theme the AI generates and come up with a full song. It can be a insanely powerful tool to overcome writer's block.
I do wonder about the ethics of giving AI a prompt and then just recording the results with your own vocals/instruments and claiming you wrote the song yourself. AI would sue you if it could, lol.
Anyway, it wouldn't really change much considering quite a lot of artists didn't write their own songs anyway. Between jazz musicians playing old standards and pop singers having songs written for them, the only difference would be that now the songwriter would be AI with maybe a human weeding out the bad prompts. Artists that write their own songs would still be looked up to (I hope).
@@JayL- I'm not sure. I've prompted some really bad beginner grade music and it failed to deliver. I've prompted a track witch would be out of tune and it generated a sickly sweet pop song about a guitar being out of tune.
Just tried a Tuvan throad singing idm in Udio and got quite surprisingly interesting result.
@@HeartcoreMitRAI think results vary depending on genre, idk. I had some good results with suno at first, but now I'm getting pretty good results in Udio as well.
Maybe they read prompts a bit differently.
It's quite amusing that AI's understanding of the 80s is based on modern interpretations of what today's youth 'think' the 80s were like. 🙂
Is an AI every going to stack VEC2 snare drum 31 with Cymantics hard hitting snare pack snare number 05, and fl's stock default snare?
AI will never do what I do.
Samur-AI guitarist.... It was so obvious... How did we not see it...
I think you kinda nailed the answer to "why should I continue to pursue being a musician, or working as a musician?"
Half of the popularity of music is seeing a musician or a band in person. If it's obvious that'll never be able to happen, that no AI performer exists to see on stage in a way no screen can substitute, an entire part of being a popular musician is missing.
I took the lyrics from the first song I wrote, 20 years ago, and fed them into UDIO, one verse at a time. I asked for alt rock or some such thing. The result was interesting. It had the vibe of alt rock, nothing like my original melody and groove.
Udio just released some awesome new features to help you make your song arrangements, plus songs up to 15 minutes. A keyboard warrior will be able to make passable music with just some determination and perhaps a little bit of good taste.
They won't be _making_ music but having AI _generate_ music for them. There is no creative process involved in typing some words and getting AI poop out "art" stolen from centuries long hard work of artists, rendering them irrelevant.
Sam U'r A.I. Guitarist.... oh my god!!! 😲
I agree 100% with all of what was said. A lot of musicans writing for music libraries and sync are becoming very paranoid about AI generators like Udio. I’m just not seeing their customers wanting to spend time using a generator. They just want to license music, not make it. Even if AI can spit out a sing in one click, and many of the best ones don’t, you’re still searching aka: generating, to get what you need. Subscription rates for generators and libraries are about the same. I don’t see the threat.
Its the same as when drum machines appeared - they didn't take over and actually freed drummers up to do more elaborate things!
They got rid of a lot of studio work.
AIs can never do a live performance, and people still love live music. I’m in college and a couple days ago on a random Wednesday night there was a live band playing in one of the plaza’s and the crowd was going crazy for them. You can’t get that with a computer generating music
Keep doing what I've been doing -- Ignore AI and continue on.
A really well thought out and useful analysis, thank you. Given that most of us musicians make no money making music, what difference will AI make to most of us!
I wonder if there is a deeper issue here about of the role of music and musicians in culture. We are the makers and expressers of culture. One could argue once music became commodified it lost its soul. Should creating music indeed be about making a product to be sold? Is a musicians calling greater than just making a marketable product? If musicians can leave AI to churn out marketable 'product', maybe we musicians could then spend more time exploring and being creative and discovering about music and its place and role in humanity rather than just trying to write a Number 1 song.
In indigenous cultures, music and musicians weren't focused on making money. There were focussed on the artform and it's uses and importance in culture. Musicians were nonetheless fed and housed. Perhaps our modern western capitalist culture could learn something from that.
Just some thoughts.
One thing that might save our bacon as musicians is the trail effect in AI training it's what caused image generation to stall like it has it will eventually cause music AI's like Udo to stall out in a similar fashion if we've not already hit that point. It's thankfully an unavoidable problem with how these current crop of AI's work at a basic level with the mathematics that actually powers them under tho hood.
I saw a post on Twitter that advertised an AI that could write full length novels in a matter of seconds so that a writer won't have to. What that post, and a lot of the conversation in general, fails to understand is that writers don't write just to get words out there - we write because we love writing. Musicians play because we love playing. That's never going to stop being true, and even if the corporate overlords decide to put out music written and performed by AI instead of humans, there are enough ways to get your work out into the world that honestly, labels are barely even useful any more. Your music will be heard. People will support the musicians they love. AI music will come, but it won't destroy human music.
It still often has issues doing a form change-up in a piece, so it has a tendency to be heavily repetitive if the song is longer than 2 minutes or so. And if it somehow manages that, it'll also have problems resolving back to the starting main theme as well. Although I'm sure the people programming that stuff will eventually do something about that too.
So you mean it sounds like rap music or the latest Taylor Swift formulaic trash?
Just because _you_ have had issues with change-ups or whatever, and generating repetitive songs, doesn't mean that everyone else has those issues too..
What AI can or can't do is contained in the word "intelligence." It improves itself exponentially, and that should worry you. That doesn't mean that you should give up your instrument, though. No matter how good AI gets, it will never be human.