Do Finger Locks Work In A Street Fight?
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- When we were all in school, we knew the feeling of someone grabbing our fingers and pulling on them. But do finger locks work in a street fight? Self Defense instructor James Hundon takes us through a deep dive on finger locks.
As a Martial artist and retired law enforcement officer, I know that Ju Trap Boxing is the most practical form of martial arts for law enforcement. I taught defensive tactics in the academy, and I know many techniques were impractical. However, learning a few finger-locks from Professor Hundon made my job much easier. In altercations where other officers were trying to grab an armbar or joint-lock, I could subdue the subject with a simple finger-lock. So, yes, Professor Hundon, your finger-locks definitely work.
Hyphenated * finger locks definitely works* on drunken morons your bigger than* what about the vids of cops being double legged by drunken 18yr old wrestlers and begging for they life did u train those cops too?
Absolute street effective applied Martial Arts theory! As a Martial Arts practitioner of over 50 years, I am in awe of the simplicity of his interpretation of "Lock flow", and anatomical joint weakness exploitation! Bravo! Genius! I salute you! He is at a metaphysical level of flowing the spirit of warfare!
Theory
@@christophermalpede924 What do you mean by theory ?
No evidence of this sheet having any effectiveness against anyone who has any idea what they r doing
@@christophermalpede924 I agree, it's all choreographed & he knows what's coming, in a real fight it's chaotic & much faster, isn't proper sparring speed.
He said thad is bullshit mm way alway someone have to said any comen with out know how work ? Did yo trie o let someone do to you ? An see how it will work for you .never talk if you dont trie 👍
yes sir, one of the best tools for unarmed security/bouncing, land one of those locks properly & walk 'em right out the front door ! The Budo brings us The Best, yet again🙏🏼
That's not a fight, that's bouncing
No doubt! 👊🏾
Lol non of u have sparred MMA before
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Oh yes EXACTLY@@gutyourtrust
I've used finger locks a lot as a bouncer, and it works wonders, when youre trying to get someone to listen to you, when they wouldnt otherwise. It's also a good way to pacify would be aggressors.
And get sued if you break fingers at the club.
Also get sued if you punch someone in the face.
Wrist locks (hand locks/multiple finger locks) are perhaps a happy medium without breaking fingers, and are used to "peaceably" subdue people by many police force personnel around the world.
I also finger at the club
@@clivearmitageso bouncers cant do their jobs now? What did I miss these last 11 years?
@@deustauries Experiences of real life door staff may vary.
I'm not really sure what your point is, unfortunately.
Dr. Hunson looks like a humble, harmless, nice old man, but in fact a very dangerous man you definitely don't want to hassle with.
Wow I can’t believe how much I enjoy watching this video as a kick boxer many years ago listening to a real instructor that demonstrates the importance of explaining the actual effects of what the technique does and how to execute it properly very good instructor and instruction 👊🏽
Lol
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I am 77years old and I have never seen such smooth action!
Lol try pro wrestling
Small circle jujitsu is a great martial art. It’s the best I’ve found in all my years in bad neighborhoods.
Everything he used was exactly what I’ve been taught in small circle. Has professor Wally Jay used to say feeling makes believing.
J@p jiu jitsu does not work try BJJ
@@christophermalpede924no need to be racist, SCJJ is a California-built martial art.
@@TristanMorrow it still doesn't work with a new name on it
@@christophermalpede924 - hunky Moonkey yt can't fight no matter what they study - they're just too weak.
@@TristanMorrow Hawaii i thought
They work like anything else works. It depends on the situation and attacker. Same as bullets some drop in 1 or 2 some need more pain, technique is technique. He's showing u how it can or could work. Those that practice these things on a regular will be more efficient. But if u study n try it for 10 minutes with your UA-cam expertise good luck
Professor Wally Jay taught me this 40 years ago. They work for those brief moments in time.
40 years ago.... I could tap bruce lee try BJJ
@christophermalpede924 nope. Im 60 and body is busted up. I'm not wrastlin no fuckin body today. Today, it is sum gun fu. I have screws, plates, plastic, and I ain't going thru that shiznit again
@christophermalpede924 and 40 years ago, any one could tap lee. He died 50 years ago.
@@stephenhipp7859 I can tell u at 32 17 years BJJ that sheet has no chance teaching it is shameful
@@stephenhipp7859 u would know
Amazing skills Professor! You're a real life Equalizer Sir. 👊💀
I had the pleasure of participating in Prof Hundon's training session at today's Legacy6 11 (escrima/kali/FMA) seminar.
While there are a lot of similar techniques shared between Small Circle and FMA, the methods we were taught to control/manipulate our practice-partners body position was a beneficial takeaway.
I'll definitely be researching this further for attributes that I can add to my arsenal.
Ok, I need to meet Professor Hundon!
Make it happen....you won't regret it!!
To everyone in the comments saying it wouldn’t work in a real fight, can someone explain to me why finger locks are illegal in combat sports and BJJ?
I'm not a bjj/MMA practitioner, but I have been practicing Aikido for a couple of years, which has a lot of wrist locks, some of which could be translated to finger locks.
I've had my wrist tweaked a few times during Aikido practice. If it had been a finger lock practice, I would have had several broken fingers in my 2 years of practice. I imagine a bjj/MMA fighter doesn't want several/any broken fingers after each fight, putting them out of fighting or training for several weeks, and possibly finishing their career. So it's similar to the no eye gouging rule.
The use of gloves/mitts also means that easily accessing and kranking the fingers is difficult.
@clivearmitage if this were the reason then ankle locks or any other type of joint manipulation would be banned. Blown knees and dislocated shoulders have put many fighters and BJJ competitors out for months and even ended careers.
@@michaelcohen91 I'm not saying that bjj/MMA practitioner never get hurt, but obviously fingers (like eyes) are slightly less tough than knees, shoulders and elbows. So whilst "accidents" happen, finger locks (and illegal eye gouging) would be a great way to ensure that you never had any opponents willing to fight you, so you'd be finished as a fighter.
@@clivearmitage fair enough, but I think that if the threat of broken fingers is enough to keep a fighter out of the ring, or even keeps grapplers from gaining certain advantages or positions, that's strong evidence that there is a place for small joint manipulation in a real fight
@@michaelcohen91 I totally agree. That's what I'm saying. Finger and wrist locks are an effective form of pain compliance/fight ending bone breaks, if you can get them on.
Another GREAT teacher
Yep, a Coast Guard guy showed me a finger hold, put me down. He grabbed my thumb and bent my wrist. My pain forced me to follow his movements.
Coast guard lol
@@christophermalpede924 I'm NAVY, I know. But it still worked.
@@LocomotiveThought against a drunkard any real martial artist would dust u
Absolutely brilliant movement and a great tutorial.
Lol try BJJ fat boy
Dude when your finger is bent backwards and at the point of breaking and being dislocated the pain is insane. There are so many nerves in your hand it's ridiculous. You are going to go to your knees and scream like a baby.
Lol try ur elbow in an armbar lol finger lol
Try a BJJ class wow funny shit my finger lol
Did they pay u 4 comments u 1 on his "black belts" lol
@@christophermalpede924 get a life bro
I've worked security in some extremely dangerous clubs (a couple that the police wouldn't go inside of unless there was an actual 9-11 call for them), and have used finger locks for control on a number of occasions. I picked them up after a small circle jiujitsu seminar I attended once, and love them. Properly applied, they allow a lot of control with very little exertion.
A nice side effect is that it's also a deterrent for anyone watching, because the control looks effortless. When they see you walk a guy out the door without even breaking a sweat, and he's screaming in pain with the slightest resistance, onlookers are a lot less inclined to start shit with you themselves.
Wow so smooth
very similar to Filipino hand-to-hand combat
He is a professor of Eskrima Serrada Filipino martial arts
I approve this message 💚💚💚💚
Its amazing how much pain can live in such a little body part..
Lol pro wrestling is also amazing
Choreo demostration... and unknown fight techniques are not the same. Speed is a big factor as well
What are you expecting? He’s showing how to get to a finger lock.
Yep! We went street! 💯 Don't mess with this brothuh!!
My hero!! Who loves ya Professor??
You do sir!🙏🏾
I used to teach this combined with Aikido, Pressure Points and Wing Chun but more like Chin-Na style, the result is the same, take control within the first attack.
Mr Man bun's got a good teacher. He is very fortunate.
You do that to a real fighter your done 😂
You’re damn straight it works. I’ve used it about three times and have broken fingers. Don’t put your fingers in my face.
Very good explained and I think He is right. He creates the Situation for grabbing the fingers. And his partner is also very good. Cudos also to him.
Impressive!!! Great vid!
And the next move I'm gonna show you is the powder-hand-pimp slap
I took use any technique that works and this works I use something similar to his style I taught myself this back in school to stop people from touching me I see the hand movements before they do and it's already too late as I bend twist almost break but not too much thank you sir I respect your technique
I am a BELIEVER when can I start you make Bruce Lee Proud is their a website or location
Finger locks work defo - studied under Bill Rankin 10th Dan ….. He was a specialist in finger locks and of course no fitness necessary ✔️
In a full fledged street fight high velocity and high aggression. No this stuff usually can't be applied.
In subtle aggressive unpredicted random situations where it's close up and usually not an actual fight, more like an altercation or argument, then yes these techniques are highly effective.
Who is this instructor?? Does he have a contact for classes in California.
Came here after watching some of Wally Jay's first small circle jujitsu video. I know that understanding and manipulating joints 100% works but I was looking for something recent that talks about it. I know this video isn't strictly sc jujitsu but it's uses a lot of the fundamentals.
Professor Hundon! Miss you dearly Sir! Anubis Heru
They worked for me against 3 larger stronger murderers who tried to kill me in the wee hours after midnight awaken from rem sleep. They had ever advantage. The Lord was my protection as He helped me to carry out my training in the most serious applications. Yes, wrist and finger locks work and God is good.
Where do I sign up???????????????????????????????? I live in NY...is that gon b a problem?
Love Small Circle Jujitsu!
Awesome!
Finger locks definitely work in a real fight. I was jumped on the streets of Chicago (West Side). I grabbed the guys fingers, twisted then pushed. He had at least 100 lbs over me. He was powerless and under my complete control. I had no idea what I was doing. Knew both ng about "locks", finger, wrist, arm, any of it! And did not know how to capitalize on it. Be t he was d ad in his tracks til his partner in the car saw it, snuck up behind me and cracked me in the back of the head with a chunk of a two by four! I went down dazed and confused. Then the original I had locked picked me up off the ground, lifted me to shoulder-height and body slammed me onto the dry, grass less, dusty, dirt field. They got NOTHING! HA! My money was on the arch of my foot in my sock. (D'OH!). Those locks work. I had complete control over a guy almost twice my size and it was sheer luck because having no formal knowledge of those types of locks served me well in the face of serious attack.😅
I know this much, Tim will never be late on rent again. 😊
Fingerlocks and wristlocks make a big man cry.
We Don't need no education teacher leave them kids alone. 😂.
Thank you.
It does work cuz I've done it one time in a fight.👊🖖
I wish James Hundon taught classes in my town
Finger locks does not mean finger break. It means very intense pain to the point you think it's going to break. If you've never done it before and never felt it before it too easy to dismiss that it does not work. Like just any other techniques, you practice to make it work for you.
Thank you!! Everyone thinks the break is the aim, when in fact that usually means you ballsed up!
Lol very intense pain try BJJ
@@christophermalpede924 I'm a Catch Wrestler which in pain terms is away ahead of BJJ....and these hurt as much if not more as any other sub
Try a bicep crusher puzzy
@@christophermalpede924 awww bless....try a shin crank noob
Merci Master!
I'm running like I'm gone and if I'm not in a good mood, boom pow surprise 😂❤
If I was ever in shape I'd take Small Circle from Professor Hundon or that (tough Ass) student of his. Can you imagine how trained his student is? I can tell Instructor Hundon can also spar well! ♥
Kudos to the test subject lol
Sir you move very similar to Wally J small circles. Thanks for the confirmation....Yes.
Professor Hundon trained with GM Wally Jay for 30+ years.
Coulda kept the bite..the guy posed for that lol
Thanks alot,
I only used finger lock once and it worked just fine.... It's all about context and situation.
very educational 0w0 Thank you so much!
You are great.
It works . Trust Me but u have to be on point it's not an ez task .
People in the streets don't use pak sao moves like in this vid,they r way more iratic
Fantastic! 👍
Fascinating 💎
Boss Techniques🙏
I've done martial arts for years in a free fight and nasty fight I want to see a finger lock
This guy great.
they work
OG, I never want smoke! 😅
They can iIF you can get them. The only way to know would be to put on MMA gloves, spar full contact and see if you can get them. This kind of one step, slow mo technique training is ok to learn the technique, but wont help against a real opponent trying to smash your face in.
Great tutorial sir, very clear & easy to understand. A lot of elements in there, JKD, Wing Chun, Aikido, Silat etc🥰
Good shyt, homie.
In a perfect choreographed scenario like the one you and your student are doing, yes.
In an ALL out fight...Ive never seen anyone or my self do it. As pain compliance after a take down, yes. Again, in an actual fight,never seen it done.
Grand Master Moses Powell's who taught his own art Sanuces, and who I got the opportunity to go and meet as a kid while living in NYC were i grew up, & train with, 2x's, Who was a very strict instructor, very skilled from what I remember, and one of his students, Now professor D. Sergeant, who was a good friend whom I trained under and through his lineage, I received my Black Belt via master R. Jones, I BELIEVE it was called back then, Ka Mau Ru...in any street scenario or in my 30 PLUS years in security that included prisons, I've never seen a finger t ake down in a fight...
Professor Hundon actually trained under Dr Powell himself (as well as Wally Jay Directly too)
I've done it!
I've used them to break a grip or to gain a striking angle.
I worked as a bouncer and yes these things can happen. Mist people in the world today are inexperienced in combat. And each generations experiences it less.
This is why everyone has a gun now too. "A tool made for weaker men.". And its true. How many people you know would actually fight. Or would have fought in a proper age? As a millenial, I woukd say 1 out of 50 would. And I have met an abundance of people. Most rather talk or ignore the problem. Lots of people talk that they fight. Very few back it up.
Check out Professor Hundon's lineage. Professor Hundon lived in NY. Trained and received rank w/ GM Powell, Soke Lil' John and Robert Crosson, just to name a few. Just because you haven't seen it done or you can't do it doesn't mean it can't work. No disrespect.
If the person has no idea how to fight, this could work. Looks cool though
Good luck with those. 😢
No, they simply don't work in a real fight. That's not my opinion but an observation from several fights that I have both witnessed and been involved in myself. If a finger lock stops someone, they weren't much of a threat to begin with. They may be more useful in security type work, but in a fast and violent confrontation with a determined attacker(s), forget it. I've heard the fingers and wrists break and it didn't slow or deter the attacker. Drugs, alcohol, and crazy also can neutralize any effects.
You just have to do it right.
So if you've never seen it, it doesn't exist?
Not all fights are boxing based fights.
If someone is a boxer, they probably only get involved in boxing type fights.
Women (especially) have to cope with a lot of arm, wrist, and neck grabs. Finger grabs are ideal defences for this type of attack.
Nightclub door, prison service, law enforcement, hospital & institution staff have a duty of care, and as such can't choose to just punch or kick people in the face.
A broad experience across many styles of martial arts, and perhaps also an amount of running training, would serve most people well.
Good luck with your fighting.
That just means YOU don’t know what you are doing.
In my experience...every time I have broken a person's wrist or thumb they held onto that hand with their other hand.
Was a bouncer and can confirm you are wrong. You dont have experience and/or have not seen much irl either. Please stop.
Lol he gonna unclose my fists lol
Sehr guter Meister 💪💪💪sehr schön 🔝
Lots of guys who been in jail say that stuff don't work in the real world unless you're bigger and stronger than the other guy.. the speed is the issue.. This teacher is knowledgeable but this slow choreographed examples from willing participants is nothing like street fighting.. You'd have to train relentlessly for years for it to be affective.. Them "Jail House Rock" dudes say they can have you up and running in weeks or months ! Stuff that's been tested behind the wall !
JKD 😊 Respect sir
I hate people like him. It's just poetry in motion. He makes it look so easy and effortless. BRAVO PROFESSOR. POETRY IN MOTION
11:50 lmfaoooooo
Cool stuff
No...they dont work on the street unless the other person dont punch or kick .
If someone doesnt know nothing about fighting , it would work , probably , but if anyone has some boxing or kickboxing knowledge , this will NEVER work 🖖😉 ..enough said !
Bullshido have been around for quite sometimes , and depending in situation like law enforcement and maybe bodyguards and bouncers , this could work i guess since they cant really start punching someone in the face , but other than that.. in open areas like the street , this will not work when faced with an aggressive puncher kicker that is trying to knock you out . Best tactic is to keep hands high , tchin tocked , breath in and stay calm and move , when he stops trowing , you eye poke very fast , kick balls or just grab his coat and start kneeing one after the other till you get his head low enough for the fight ending knee !
top niveau !!!!
Seems like he has a willing subject here.. There's a lot of self defense guys and 52 block guys on line saying this stuff don't work in prison and in street fights.. especially for young students ! I've noticed that most comments that say this stuff works are folks that have been practicing for years and are bouncers who are probably big strong dudes.. The "Jail House rock" and systems that have been "Time Tested" and proven to work on the street are more believable .. I'd like to see the old guy in some real fighting in the ring ...MMA to see if it works on those guys !
Давайте жыть дружно, а потом будь что будет. Удивительная позиция Леопольда )) Либеральные утопии как раз и привёли к тому что без кровопролития уже не возможно разобрать эти завалы романтических фантазий.
I believe they do.
Yes finger locks works.
Who does street fight nowadays? Everyone goes there, litl pers 😅
The real equalizer 😂👍
Could imagine some young Punk thinking he is gonna beat up this old man, and take is money.......... LOL
Who is the instructor in this video
Dude needs to be softer to his volunteer
This game was called mercy as a kid fyi lol
You can break break fingers easily
very god
He's even got bite fu
was expecting it being tried on random people in the ""street"....how disappointing...
The more gray in the beard the pain they can inflict