The Safety of Single Action Revolvers! Proving the FBI is RIGHT!
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The fact the trigger must have been pulled is something that everyone with any kind gun knowledge already said over and over, from the start
Unless, the revolver was modified for slip hammer, which the revolver in question was not.
It also won’t fire if you check it and make sure it isn’t loaded before you pull the trigger.
Yep, even broken, it wont fire with out live rounds in it.
It is nice to see the FBI prove what everyone has known.
It's a good safety course. Thanks.
It also reinforces how deadly a .45colt can be!
Holy crap? Yankee said something both accurate and intelligent. What a marvelous day we live in.
Stopped clocks and all that…
Moral of the story….Point the weapon in a safe direction
I can't hit the thumbs up enough times.
The Shooter is the last link in the Safety Chain. I was taught to open the gate, rotate the cylinder, and check each round. If you questioned anything, punch 'em out and visually check each one. Simple SA Safety.
Excellent explanation. You are spot on.
Wow, the experts at the FBI discovered what millions of people have alredy kown for well over a hundred years.
Guns don't go off by themselves
I'm honestly shocked there were people who believed him and were arguing that the gun fired on its own.
Great explanation, wit or without the FBI. Clearly stated and easily understood. That aside allow me to clearly state so it is also easily understood, if you and I are responsible for every round from the firearm in our hand, Creating doubt and suggesting the gun is responsible is the tact of a man who will not except his responsibility for his mistakes.
none of my single action revolvers will go off on their own
Hey YM, you're correct, and beautiful SIngle Actions!
Thats a lot of guns hanging behind you my friend. Very nice collection there.
would it be okay if I just gave zero fucks about any of this?
why are you here??
If he had his finger on the trigger when he drew the pistol the trigger could have been back and stayed back without much pressure being on the trigger just having his finger there inside the trigger guard and not actually pulling on it very hard.
If his finger was blocking the trigger from going forward then the sear could never set when the hammer was pulled back. This is how cowboys in the movies used to "fan the hammer."
I think the idiot had is finger on the trigger and had it pulled back from the time he drew the weapon. If his finger was blocking the trigger then his story would sort of be right that he let the hammer fly and it went off. He said he never pulled the trigger but he had already pulled it when he drew it with his awful form and lack of trigger finger discipline and since his finger was in the way of the trigger the sear never set on any of the intermediate hammer stages and was free to fly forward and fire.
Yeah, that has been my hypothesis all along. He was already pressing on the trigger enough so that the catch could not engage, but he did not perceive himself "pulling" the trigger because for all intents it was *already pressed*. Either he missed the safety training or was not paying attention or they did not give it (would not be surprised in the sort of craptastic set they were running).
I don't believe the trigger spring was broken, but a broken trigger spring could Absolutely cause the gun to fire without pulling the trigger (like Baldwin said). I don't believe the FBI said the trigger spring was jammed/broken, but i believe strongly that people have the RIGHT to be presumed innocent until Proven Guilty... even for an evil fool like Baldwin. "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." THOMAS PAINE
Agree
A definite possibility.
As a single action owner myself? This is 100% correct 👍
Correction here. The safety notch is the first click. The cylinder is locked as well in the safety notch. The second notch is the cyclinder disconnect for loading and unloading.
good explanation!!!!
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I'm going to pretend your sitting in front of blue screen so my own collection doesn't seem so tiny.😁
My Ruger Single Six has the transfer bar just like the Vacaro.
That Gun simply CANNOT FIRE without the Trigger being Pulled. PERIOD.
That's absolutely not 100% true I mean I agree with what you're saying but that's not 100% true because Ruger six shot back in the day was recalled because of the gun fell it could go off and the trigger never had to be pulled. I had that Ruger six shot and I had to recall on it and I never did do the recall on it. All they were going to do was replace a couple of parts and it was not going to have that problem but I never went through with it.
@@jeffouellette9946 That does NOT apply, as this is either a COLT, or a COLT Clone 1873 Single Action Army Revolver.
It has been said that the armorer was NOT present on the set, because she was attending to other duty's that were assigned to her.
No person or persons except the armor is to have unsupervised access to any firearms that may and/or will be used during the production.
Anytime that that the armorer is not and/or can not be present, ALL of the firearms being used on the production SHALL be locked-up and Shall be inaccessible to anyone else, including the entire production company, without exception.
Any time that the armorer is not and/or can not be present on the set while firearms are being handled, there has been a very serious breech of protocols for firearm safety, because, the armorer is required to be present(for safety reasons) at all times while firearms are being handled for any reason.
According to what has been revealed in prior videos, Alec Baldwin refused to take the firearms safety training, then when handed the firearm he did NOT safety check the firearm!!
In My Humble Opinion,
Those of us that have used a COLT Single Action Army Revolver(or one of the modern made clones) know how they function, and knew that his story did NOT add up.
It does not matter if you pull the trigger, or if you hold the trigger back, the gun will NOT fire unless/until one of those actions happens, for example:
You hold the trigger back in the firing position, then you pull the hammer to the rear position without releasing the trigger, and then you release the hammer while still holding the trigger in the firing position, = BANG, the gun fires, or
You pull the hammer to the rear firing position until you hear or feel the hammer click into the sear, then without holding the hammer you pull the trigger, = BANG, the gun fires.
Since they(the police) tested the gun after the shooting, and found it to be in proper working order, the only possible way that the gun could have fired, would have been one of the examples that I outlined above.
It does NOT matter(for this discussion) whether it was an accidental, or a deliberate act, the fact of the matter is that Alec Baldwin was the person holding the gun when it fired, therefore, he is the Proximate Cause of the shooting, and should be held responsible for his actions.
The preceding statements are MY OPINIONS, but, as of the time that I was writing this comment, the facts seem to backup my assertions. I also know and understand that your opinions may not be the same as MY OPINIONS.
Long Live The Republic of The United States of America!! Long Live The Constitution of The United States of America!! Long Live The Second Amendment to The Constitution of The United States of America!!
Or, unless the revolver is modified to slip fire capability. We know Baldwins revolver, was not.
As a master gunsmith I can tell you that this guy is 100% correct and he knows his guns! Anything else anyone says is from either ignorance or emotional nonsense.
As a gunsmith, I can tell you that this guy is mistaking safety with loading position on original SAAs.
My Dad taught me to shoot his Colt Peacemaker, I own a Ruger Single Action revolver, it would've taken a knowledgeable shooter a few minutes to figure out if the firearm in question was malfunctioning.
Alec Baldwin should go to prison he was responsible for that gun while he had it in his possession period. If it were you or me we would be under the jail. His money and status as an actor should not protect him or anyone else
This is why all my using single actions are Ruger new models and vaqueros which have a transfer bar.
What hammer is that!?!?!?!?!
Most of the general public thinks the FBI is competent and I’m glad they got it right on this one.
Expendables gun? ❤
The position you are showing is not safety position, but loading position, the safety notch is the first click, the first position. That’s the SAA original configuration. 3 positions. Safety, loading, firing. Rugers have a different system.
Revolver Heaven!!! Love the group of Mares Legs!!!!!!!
What are the odds of not only the gun being loaded with a live round in it, but the sear also breaks on the one time he ends up shooting the woman? He is probably like everyone else that accidentally shoots a gun. He is either lying about not pulling the trigger, or he honestly does not realize that he pulled the trigger. But he did pull it.
I swear Yankee looks like he has been enjoying some of that oregon greenery....
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Nice room bro
What if he is holding the trigger down?
That's the point. He either held the trigger down the whole time, or he pulled the hammer back then pull the trigger. Don't matter which scenario Alecs fault. Violate all the rules bad shit happens
He covered this in the video. See 4:02.
It takes only a fraction of a pound of pressure to pull the trigger back when the hammer is forward and once back takes almost no pressure to hold back when cocking the hammer. Baldwin could have been holding the trigger back from the time he drew and just the friction of his index finger resting inside the trigger guard would have been enough to keep the trigger pulled back so when he pulled the hammer back the sear would never have engaged.
This isn't excusing him but he might have actually thought he never pulled the trigger because it had been pulled from the moment he cross-drew the gun and his stupid fat finger was wedged in there so that it stayed pulled the whole time.
Bad trigger finger discipline and Baldwin was told many times by many people that he shouldn't do this but he repeatedly ignored them. Sooner or later this was bound to turn around and bite him and it did that fateful day.
@@svbarryduckworth628 Exactly. Baldwin probably is sincere that he dod not perceive himself as "pulling"... because he was already pressing on it just enough all along by holding it wrong.
@@chedelirio6984 and this is why we have "The Rules" and why the finger NeVER EvER goes into the trigger guard until a sure target is acquired, the backstop beyond is judged clear, and one is ready to fire.
He probably was holding the trigger down with live ammo in the gun, or he just cocked it and pulled it with live ammo in the gun. No matter what, they should have checked to make sure it was clear.
How did anyone get the F. B. I. to comment on a on going investgation?
Has others noted that you do not even have to, although you should, open the action or open the loading gate of a revolver to see that there is a cartridge case/s in the gun? A quick look at the revolver will reveal the cartridge rims. If you were to notice🧐the cartridge rims, you will have any combination of three possibilities; fired cases, blank cartridges, or live rounds in the revolver.
How "many" people told you that you were taking the FBI's word for it...? Can you count them on one hand? Frankly I find it hard to believe that anyone that watches your videos would agree that the pistol went off accidentally. It just doesn't make sense, especially if they seen your earlier videos.
Or any number of the other UA-cam vids made on the subject when Baldwin originally made the claim.
Pull the trigger or slip the hammer on a broken gun, is a negligent discharge. Do so after after not checking the gun safety and the shooter is liable.
Alec Baldwin is a werewolf
Could the gun exploding have anything to do with it?
No
@@LyleSmith-q3e
Yeah single action revolvers explode all the time....
Severely damage or had an action job.....
That initial single action looked cool? Is it a custom job?
Could the gun have fired if he pulled the hammer back just a bit, but not enough to engage the first notch and released the hammer? I have not heard anyone address this. Yankee needs to test this.
No, the hammer would not have enough energy to fire the weapon in that scenario.
Yepper-roony
I wish you would have shown people how holding the trigger back completely can let ya fan the gun, meaning alec blindman was squeezing the trigger tight while his thumb slipped off the hammer.🤗
EVEN IF THE GUN WAS BROKEN, HOW DID THE LIVE ROUNDS GET THERE? Look at the chances of things happening, they found live rounds on the set, a few ended up in the gun which is a fact, BUT he also had a broken gun that would fire without pulling the trigger? No way, he pulled the trigger with live rounds in the gun.
I don't know people do sacrifices out there. Especially in Hollywood.
It has been said that the armorer was NOT present on the set, because she was attending to other duty's that were assigned to her.
No person or persons except the armor is to have unsupervised access to any firearms that may and/or will be used during the production.
Anytime that that the armorer is not and/or can not be present, ALL of the firearms being used on the production SHALL be locked-up and Shall be inaccessible to anyone else, including the entire production company, without exception.
Any time that the armorer is not and/or can not be present on the set while firearms are being handled, there has been a very serious breech of protocols for firearm safety, because, the armorer is required to be present(for safety reasons) at all times while firearms are being handled for any reason.
According to what has been revealed in prior videos, Alec Baldwin refused to take the firearms safety training, then when handed the firearm he did NOT safety check the firearm!!
In My Humble Opinion,
Those of us that have used a COLT Single Action Army Revolver(or one of the modern made clones) know how they function, and knew that his story did NOT add up.
It does not matter if you pull the trigger, or if you hold the trigger back, the gun will NOT fire unless/until one of those actions happens, for example:
You hold the trigger back in the firing position, then you pull the hammer to the rear position without releasing the trigger, and then you release the hammer while still holding the trigger in the firing position, = BANG, the gun fires, or
You pull the hammer to the rear firing position until you hear or feel the hammer click into the sear, then without holding the hammer you pull the trigger, = BANG, the gun fires.
Since they(the police) tested the gun after the shooting, and found it to be in proper working order, the only possible way that the gun could have fired, would have been one of the examples that I outlined above.
It does NOT matter(for this discussion) whether it was an accidental, or a deliberate act, the fact of the matter is that Alec Baldwin was the person holding the gun when it fired, therefore, he is the Proximate Cause of the shooting, and should be held responsible for his actions.
The preceding statements are MY OPINIONS, but, as of the time that I was writing this comment, the facts seem to backup my assertions. I also know and understand that your opinions may not be the same as MY OPINIONS.
Long Live The Republic of The United States of America!! Long Live The Constitution of The United States of America!! Long Live The Second Amendment to The Constitution of The United States of America!!
I agree on all counts. The only thing I would add, that you did touch on, is that the trigger sear doesn't have to be broken off to cause a push off or slip situation at full cock. I'm guessing most of these guns are treated like rented mules with novices fanning actions, etc., causing damage to the action. The trigger sear has a very carefully shaped flat that rests against the hammer's full cock ledge. In abuse situations the sear and the hammer ledge become rounded. This causes a hammer push off or hammer slip when attempting to fully cock ther gun. A rounded sear may not always slip into the half cock notch so letting the hammer fall is not a guarantee the half cock notch will catch and stop the hammer from hitting home. To your point, this is very easy to identify and I believe the gun was in working order when he pulled the trigger. Great explanation !
I think we can take Yankee's "broken" to include the worn-out sear and/or full-cock ledge scenarios. The FBI likely disassembled the gun as well to examine it in this case.
There has been something said about two fractures in the firearm after FBI testing. I assume the FBI may have damaged it applying excessive force in an attempt to make in fire
Actual Colt SSA models had the first hammer notch which is a "quarter cock" position. It is pretty weak, and not completely safe to carry all 6 rounds. I don't think the replicas have this. The "half cock" notch is very large, and will capture the hammer going forward unless the sear tip is broken off. This mechanism was also similar in the Colt and Remington percussion revolvers.
The safety notch isn't near as "weak" as internet rumors indicate. This I know for a fact.
There are still at least 2 brands making 4-click SAA clones with safety notches, Pietta and Uberti's Old Model replicas.
Ok. Perhaps, he (in an unsafe manner), held the trigger in the rearmost position (not pulling it, cause it's already pulled), and then "Fanned" the hammer (IE Releasing it, causing it to fire). His lack of knowledge and respect for firearms would support this, and his assertion that he did not "pull" the trigger. This is supported by his finger being in the freaking triggerguard when he did his cross draw..
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To be honest with you if they tested the gun they would know if it would malfunction or not but again like I posted to someone a minute ago back in the day Ruger six shot had a recall on it if you drop the gun the gun could go off so that just means that there's any time something could possibly happen. But if they check the gun out I'm sure they would see that there would not be no malfunction like that. For all I know it could be a sacrifice because those people in Hollywood man I don't care what anybody says this is the wicked world face the facts. And I'm sure there are people out here that have thought about this stuff. This is the wicked generation and it's going to come to an end real soon. Jesus Christ is your only way out. Everyone is running out of time. Your pride is what is blinded you from the truth.
like I tell some guys who wonder....if the gun is so damaged (sear or tigger) that it would skip the half cock notch? LOL it would be extremely difficult just to load the gun it would if nothing else be obvious that the gun was severly damaged.
Can we just back up a little?
Why would they have any live ammo on a movie set? Why even have guns capable of firing?
A little CGI magic can make realistic gun flash and smoke.
If you’re already holding the trigger back, and you pull the hammer when it slips it will fire…
Maybe he did that.
Used his trigger finger as leverage to pull the hammer back and let it go.
Thus...he had still pulled the trigger.
@@andrewgates8158 Thus des nuts 🥜
Well...you're right and you're wrong.
The gun you're demonstrating this on is a 3-click Cattleman II gun which has no safety notch as Colt designed it. The "first click", as you refer to it on this gun, is not the "safety notch". It is half-cock.
Half cock will indeed catch a hammer falling from anywhere past that point, if the trigger is not pulled, but the safety notch proper, doesn't even exist on these Cattleman II guns.
The gun Alec killed a woman with is a Pietta 4-click model, which does have the Colt designed safety notch which can and will catch the hammer roughly an 1/8" before it hits the frame and the primer. The actual gun Baldwin used is even safer in that specific regard, in that it has two notches(the safety notch and the half cock notch) to catch a falling hammer.
The FBI got this right, just like a broken clock (with hands...this is 2022, so that will have to be explained for the digital generation who may read this) is right twice a day.
You saved me some typing pard..
pickle rick!
@theyankeemarshal, I've wondered which kind op pin is on Baldwins hammer? The solid one like on mine? Or the springy one that's on alot of replicas? and if it would make a difference, as in an actor thumbing it back and releasing it several times without hitting that first notch? I've thought of trying it , but haven't had the time, but ones like Brandon Herrera used have the springy one. I don't care for the actor, im more wondering from a firearms enthusiasts point of view, maybe scientific, as in another theory to test.
The firing pin is the spur type attached to the hammer, it is NOT the spring loaded firing pin mounted within the frame.
Not what I ment, both I was speaking of are on the hammer, they look identical, but one is a little springy, one is solid
so unprofessional mixed with stupid is bad?
I'm not defending Alec Baldwin, however, it is absolutely possible to fire a single action revolver without pulling the trigger. All you have to do is stop the trigger from resetting. That's why you can fan one. You can stop the trigger reset with pressure from the side of your finger, even when it's not in the trigger guard. This entire argument is stupid and pointless. The issue isn't that Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger. It's that he pointed it at a person, it was loaded with a real bullet and it went off. Whether he pulled the trigger or not is irrelevant. If you recklessly point a firearm at someone and it goes off for any reason, that is endangerment and manslaughter if they die, period. What they did wrong: 1) They had guns that could fire real bullets on set. There was no reason to have guns capable of firing real bullets on a movie set. 2) They had real bullets on set. There is no reason to have real bullets on a movie set. 3) He never checked the gun. Even as a matter of personal safety, the person handling the gun should check the gun. 4) You never point a gun that can shoot real bullets at anyone, ever! There is no reason to point a real gun at someone on a movie set, ever! This entire situation was amateur night and they are all culpable.
This just proves the FBI is full of genius! We all need to learn all we can about firearms from the FBI! Especially any knowledge they have about single action revolvers! They really know their stuff on those!
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Non topic, but thanks for…. ?
Where is Gary? Did the Sig Mafia finally knock him off?
I hate Baldwin.. but he's a actor that was handed a weapon. For a movie shoot.. others should be prosecuted. Not him.
Having seen a number of elements from Armorers involved in movies - all Actors should be taught the basics and typically are. Alec also has worked on other movies with firearms. He has received training multiple times in his life. Yes all people involved before him made mistakes. But the last and fatalist mistake is his to carry.
Why doesn’t Yankee use the same type of gun that was used by Baldwin ?
Not everyone has that exact model, but the model that he has functions in the same way as the gun involved in this shooting.
The fact that the FBI resources were utilized in the Alec Baldwin case is ridiculous. They tells you all you need to know about the state of this nation.
That’s what the FBI lab is for, too assist local departments as well as Federal agencies.
Yawn.
Yankee Marshal is a pretty fart smeller when it comes to firearms
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I've seen numerous videos about this when it happened. Probably not all of them. None of them I saw mentioned the other thing that happens when the hammer is somewhere in mid stroke. The chamber goes out of battery. If the hammer somehow made its way forward from mid-range, it would most likely strike somewhere between cases and mis the primer. The 800-pound gorilla in the room is why he was making panicked excuses when there should not be any live ammo anywhere on the set. The blame goes to the armorer. It was said he didn't check the gun himself. What was supposed to be in the gun if anything? Would he know what he was looking at? Unless it was supposed to be empty, he might not know if anything was wrong. If it happened to me, I would say why was it loaded with live ammo?
not true, I have had two with a well worn cam on the hammer, first one the hammer would not stay back at all it just flew forward, second one would stay back until the slightest bump on the gun sent it forward, people always know how a six gun is supposed to be used but they dont know shit about how they really work!😅🤣😂