Is a four ball cascade possible?

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  • Опубліковано 16 гру 2024

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  • @tfwiii
    @tfwiii 5 років тому +24

    Fantastic video. Love the (exhaustively) comprehensive approach. However, 11:15 onwards for the impatient :-)

  • @umutcanyldz6913
    @umutcanyldz6913 2 роки тому +4

    Pure nerdiness which I am looking for, wonderful! It is very detailed and it could even be an academic research paper

  • @buzzmas8068
    @buzzmas8068 5 років тому +26

    Screw basic geometry, I’m going to do a 4 ball cascade anyway!
    Edit: it didn’t work...

  • @Mizar88
    @Mizar88 7 років тому +18

    Nice! Such a deep analysis! Luke's juggling nerdiness is great (i'm talking in a good way!! :) )

  • @angiesaudade
    @angiesaudade 2 роки тому

    Amazing amigo, really entertained and funny video. I was super curious why wasn't possible a 4 balls cascade and this video explain it all!

  • @moejuggler6033
    @moejuggler6033 7 років тому +2

    Excellent, in-depth.

  • @ManuelRospigliosi
    @ManuelRospigliosi 7 років тому +2

    I really enjoyed watching this analysis, Luke! You should do more of these type of videos! I also would like to see that three person pattern to understand it more. If you have two other friends you can do it with and record it would be awesome! :)

  • @StuperUser
    @StuperUser 7 років тому +2

    Lovely stuff. My initial answer was just "Yeah, 53." really interesting seeing just how many things *aren't* a four ball cascade.

  • @Heeschh
    @Heeschh 6 років тому +2

    If a juggler were to juggle 6 balls in a form of 2 cascades like one using the arms and the other with hands does that count as a 6 ball double cascade?

  • @christopherjohnson1683
    @christopherjohnson1683 7 років тому +5

    What I like to call a 4 ball Cascade (or any even number Cascade) is a 3 ball Cascade pattern but with 4 balls, but since you have one more ball, you throw a multiplex on the second throw. According to your explanation, that wouldn't appease the conditions of a Cascade, or would it?

    • @lukeburrage
      @lukeburrage  7 років тому +6

      It all depends on which "rule" of the three ball cascade you want to break so it works with four balls. I say no to multiplexes, but if you're happy with it, go for it :)

    • @christopherjohnson1683
      @christopherjohnson1683 7 років тому +1

      I agree that multiplexes would be breaking the rule, you did a really good job breaking down the cascade in your video! This is why I love following your vlogs! I think being a juggler is more about just being able to juggle, it's just as much having an overall comprehension and knowledge of the tricks on top of the ability to execute them! Kudos Luke!

    • @christopherjohnson1683
      @christopherjohnson1683 7 років тому +1

      And thanks a ton for the suggestion George! I've been learning how to do 5 ball cascade lately and I'm getting really close to being able to do it consistently! Juggling 5 balls with multiplexes in a 3 ball pattern i feel has actually helped me a bit in being confidant with 5 balls. I was able to pick up the pattern you suggested relatively easily and it's a lot of fun to do!

  • @demej00
    @demej00 5 років тому

    Very nice - I am disappointed with the results, not the analysis, but will still try "a" four ball cascade. Thanks so much very entertaining and enlightening video.

  • @mncubing8160
    @mncubing8160 3 роки тому

    What about throwing it lower though?

  • @qulinxao
    @qulinxao 3 роки тому

    amazing analysis

  • @piotrstepien462
    @piotrstepien462 7 років тому

    15:02 What is this app? Anybody?

  • @6infinity8
    @6infinity8 6 років тому

    Very interesting, we clearly feel the research you did there. Great job!

  • @liammcooper
    @liammcooper 6 років тому +6

    Wittgenstein would be proud.

  • @Blaxpoon
    @Blaxpoon 6 років тому +2

    I love this type of video 👍

  • @ioniq4145
    @ioniq4145 5 років тому

    Does anyone know where I can buy some of those balls, he juggles?
    I'm a beginner and looks easier to juggle with that type of balls.
    Thanks you!!

    • @Nikola46
      @Nikola46 5 років тому

      you can make your own easy
      ua-cam.com/video/SyfxIryiD8A/v-deo.html
      the weight of a juggling ball is between 90-130g.
      You can even fill it with rice. After I made my own, my skills jumped rapidly compared to the tennis balls. Use easily inflatable balloons, because some are tight and will have a higher chance to break.

  • @ilyatoporgilka
    @ilyatoporgilka 4 роки тому

    I like "cheating" with 5 or 6 balls.Like doing a cascade,throwing 1 ball at a time,and after 3 balls crossing the last two using the lower parts of palms.Or 4/5/6 balls shower,where all are thrown,but you "skip" and "boost" by doing 1s with several balls at the same time.It makes the shower much slower and easier.But it is multiplexing,because 1)a ball lands on top of another ball held in palm 2)more than one ball is held at the same time
    So,they use [22]
    It is like "golden mechanic rule".You bow the diagram,winning in one dimension,but losing in the other.
    The even number cascade is impossible because of assymmetry or antiparity of the time and ball spaces.You have to eather not change hands or do synch throws OR "cheat" by temporary holding more one ball or let them land on top of another to "win" some time.OR throw them different heights or put hands or different heights.
    The MAIN difference between 3 and 5 ball cascades is that the second one DOES NOT have balls crossing at their highest points.So it is a bit of guessing,aiming and counting.

  • @couchmaster8244
    @couchmaster8244 4 роки тому

    If someone asked me to do a 4 ball cascade I'd just do asynchronous crosses

  • @theinqov
    @theinqov 3 роки тому

    I think the point of the challenge is to use only two manipulators. I liked one of the patterns you did that almost satisfied the criteria. Very entertaining skills though.

  • @sebastianomedas4219
    @sebastianomedas4219 7 років тому

    What about a sprung cascade

  • @Alexx15
    @Alexx15 3 роки тому

    This is gonna sound stupid but can’t you just do the hand motions for a 5 ball cascade but take out a ball and it would be a 4 ball cascade?

    • @anonymouswhite352
      @anonymouswhite352 Рік тому

      The rhyme would be wrong
      A three ball cascade goes:
      1,2,3
      A four ball fountain a-sync:
      1,2,3,4
      Five ball obviously being:
      1,2,3,4,5
      Five ball with only four ball is:
      1,2,3,4,0 which leaves an odd beat

  • @alexjeffers5498
    @alexjeffers5498 7 років тому +1

    Fascinating!

  • @helotick
    @helotick 5 років тому +2

    14:26 He said four but held five in his hand

  • @thesandman4029
    @thesandman4029 3 місяці тому +1

    Having watched the WHOLE video till the end and finding it interesting, I'm just wondering: Does that make me already an advanced juggler or rather a juggling couch potato? Perhaps another topic for a detailed analysis? 😂

  • @frailTy7
    @frailTy7 7 років тому

    my personal definition was always: same height, asynchronous, two hands, inside crossing... so what about this pattern? ua-cam.com/video/r6NabbqzlDw/v-deo.html
    yes, there are different hand movements and ist`s the sideswap 4, but I would say that this is a cascade

    • @lukeburrage
      @lukeburrage  7 років тому

      I'd say this is a mills mess variation that happens to look like a 4 ball cascade, not a cascade. It depends if you think "balls have to cross" means "cross to the other side of the pattern" or "cross to the other hand".

    • @frailTy7
      @frailTy7 7 років тому +1

      Yes and I would call this more a cascade than adding a third hand.

    • @itsonlyjoe42
      @itsonlyjoe42 7 років тому

      The siteswap that video is 4.

  • @lew.juggling8915
    @lew.juggling8915 6 років тому

    where do you get those balls

  • @jugglelunky
    @jugglelunky 5 років тому

    When you say "No ball can have a unique role in the cascade", does that mean the siteswap must be a single number?
    If it wasn't a single number (or reducible to a single number), then you could have 2 different numbers, and thus 2 different balls doing different things.
    Applying the rule that average of all the digits of a siteswap is the number of balls in the pattern, any siteswap for a 4 ball cascade would have to be '4'.
    Now we need to prove whether or not such a siteswap is jugglable.

  • @slugbtye
    @slugbtye 10 місяців тому

    Mind blown 🤯

  • @joeljose182
    @joeljose182 4 роки тому

    Dizzier than my math classes

  • @ChrisGarciaJuggles
    @ChrisGarciaJuggles 7 років тому

    thumb up for busting out the dsss

  • @martinayala7843
    @martinayala7843 7 років тому +3

    amazing research that shows that there is a lot of research in the juggling world!

  • @ГабитОмаров-г8е
    @ГабитОмаров-г8е 4 роки тому

    When will be a four balls CASCADE TUTORIAL ????

    • @aquario3563
      @aquario3563 4 роки тому

      Can't be!

    • @ГабитОмаров-г8е
      @ГабитОмаров-г8е 2 роки тому

      @@aquario3563 ... I didnt understand You

    • @aquario3563
      @aquario3563 2 роки тому

      @@ГабитОмаров-г8е idk anymore what I wanted to say, I don't understand past me either

  • @kakashi3426
    @kakashi3426 3 роки тому

    Short answer:
    No

  • @JONGLORO
    @JONGLORO 7 років тому

    You are so hyper active, why? slow blood, Mr.