Knockoff vs Fjallraven - (FAKE KANKEN) - Fjallraven vs Fancy Forest Backpack
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Fake Fjallravens can easily pass as the real Fjallraven Kanken backpack so are the fake backpacks worth saving the money or are the real Fjallraven backpack worth the hype and the money.
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Maybe I missed it but I’m surprised there was little mention of the stitching. My experience with knock offs are that they are often weak at the seams
Yeah. I was waiting at how he was going to test the stitching or test the yarn used to stitch it together. Still that knock off bag had more resilient buckles and fabric that is more resistant to tear than the genuine one. If i was buying a bag that i am gonna trash around, the knock off bag is a no brainer.
The stitching was on or par with each other so I didn’t include it in the video for brevity’s sake. But now that I know people want to see that, I’ll be sure to include it in the next one!
Rose Anvil A general evaluation of the manufacturing would be nice. Not only the thread but the quality of the workmanship.
@@RoseAnvil typically the bottom of the backpack is where wear/abrasion-resistance is necessary, while the repeated pull-strength of stitching of the shoulder-straps is another important failure point, that many cheap out on.
@@RoseAnvil And a zipper test too please.
I love it. You spend all that time scrutinizing the materials and construction, but then Toaster ultimately decides for us all. Such is life.
Nathaniel Miller maybe that’s how I will start making my life decisions
@@RoseAnvil It would be quicker.
@@NMiller_ Unless Toaster decided to be like my cat and takes ten years to decide how she wants to cuddle
I'm not sure how much of a difference there is today compared to a few decades ago, but the Kånken I inherited from my older brothers in the early 80's are still fully functional. It's worn, and I snapped a zipper handle once, and managed to burn it a little on a hot stone from a camp-fire, but it's still very much functional. The material tears pretty easily along the weaving (if that is what you call it in english), but in practice you'd have to really puncture it to manage to really break it while in back-pack form. Easy to repair though.
But even as a somewhat nostalgic Swede, I have always considered Kånken a bit over-priced. Their larger hiking packs and outdoors clothing is well worth the money though. Easy to maintain, easy to repair, seams hold forever, wears nicely. You can always get spare buckles, buttons et.c from them too.
That said, I am very impressed with the knock-off. Thanks for the video.
Samuel Tegenfeldt thanks for the insight!
Samuel Tegenfeldt - thank you.
I think UV exposure is a huge issue that you can't really test in this sort of situation, but which makes a HUGE difference in terms of longevity. I'm a seamstress and have worked with various fabrics for years, so similar to you, I'm pretty familiar with how materials work and feel in various situations. I also keep clothing and accessories for a long, long time - since I have the ability to patch and do my own repairs, I hang onto things longer than most people do. Anyway, one thing I've found with woven fabrics (especially synthetics) is that UV light plays a huge role in how it holds up over time. UV light breaks down both fabrics and plastics, so when it comes to synthetics, that's going to come into play quite a bit. I can't tell for sure looking at the fabric in the video, but my general feeling based on how similar looking fabric has acted in the past is that the Fancy Forest just isn't going to hold up after many years of wearing it outside (which is generally where you wear a backpack). Pair that with the oils from your skin, water and just general wear and tear and I'd be surprised if it would last a year...
Same goes for those flexible plastic buckles. They're not brittle and won't break immediately, but those would probably get brittle with exposure to sunlight over time, and I'd imagine they'd shatter. But, maybe not. I have some plastic pieces that I repurposed from a free promotional messenger bag that are still going strong after 6 years...
Of course, UV exposure is a problem that crops up over time and is impossible to test in this kind of video. But I thought it bears mentioning...
Also, not totally sure of a tear test in terms of quality. In most cases, even high quality natural fibers tear when you cut them like that...if you ever buy cotton by the metre from somewhere good, they'll often tear it instead of cut it because it will rip straight along the weft yarns, giving you a perfect straight cut. It doesn't really say a lot about the quality of the fabric or how it will act in real life wear and tear situations, and it's why the cotton canvas in your first video tore so easily. ;)
Could get a UV light and shine it on the bags continuously just see how long it would take to start to see an affect...
I too thought the tear test was not saying much, because the knock off had a different weave, one that is more difficult to tear.
thanks for weighing in as a fabric expert
Just FYI the buckle plastic is rigid because with pressure applied from running or walking quickly and the strap pulling the rigid buckle stays. Where as the softer plastic buckle bends and allows the strap to move. Hence loosening the shoulder straps. So it is better.
I have a Fjellräven Kånken, but the one with leather handles and on those ones the buckles are metal
@Black March I wonder if it's even a problem. Who tries to break it with pliers anyway? You can easily jump on it without any problems.
@Black March stainless steel and aluminum often have a coating that makes the straps more prone to slipping through, and metal on nylon with friction wears out the nylon much quicker over time. Sometimes having something really overbuilt isn't always advantageous
If I were to guess I'd also say that the knock off brand is an amorphic type of plastic, whereas the fjällräven one is crystalline. The later one is generally weaker, but has much better ageing properties. Let's see how the knock off brand does after 5 years of UV exposure.
@@XerxesGustav And let's see how the original does after taking a few hard hits.
Fjällräven Kånkens have a lifetime warranty to cover snapped buckles and zippers and seam rips!
Please do regular converse and the 70's version!
Mistilteinn hell yeah that’s a great idea
Do converse bought today and from 2000... quality is so, so bad.. I can’t give them money in good conscious.. not even real canvas!
ThrobbinHood ? I’m not really sure what you’re talking about. In my experience (having owned several pairs of converse over several years) the quality is totally fine. I’ve never had a pair fail. Plus, they’re definitely real canvas.
@@cole9533 - Cool story bro :) I've had at least 2 dozen pair in my life, none bought after about 2000 are worth a damn/fell apart in some stupid way that was indicative of bad quality, poor workman ship, and substandard materials.
You must work for Nike or somethin, eh.. Troll elsewhere, dick
ThrobbinHood lol no, I definitely don’t work for Nike. I also don’t see how it was dickish of me to say that I’ve had good experiences with a company, but whatever. We’re the shoes that failed regular Chucks or Chuck 70s? Just wondering because my 70s usually wear through slower than my regular Chucks.
Anyway,
You must work for (insert Nike/Converse competitor here) or somethin, eh.. Troll elsewhere, dick
Buckles are designed to withstand tension not bending loads. Materials that are good at surviving axial loads can be relatively brittle. A better test would've been to pull on the straps until the buckle failed. I am willing to bet the more expensive yet brittle buckle is significantly stronger under tension compared to the cheaper malleable one. I suspect the cheaper would deform and yield rapidly and under relatively low loads.
Yep definitely not the right test.
Which explains why carabiners used for rock climbing can break when dropped, but when used properly it can withstand a lot of weight. I know they're different materials but i think the principle is similar
@@Jenglotto That's a myth. There have been numerous tests by several companies (a lot by 3rd party labs like, Rope Testing Labs), and there is no evidence that it weakens the 'biner. Also, 'biners never "break when they're dropped." The issue in question is that they become weakened when dropped, and can break when subjected to load.
That’s a good point. Maybe I’ll do that test and put the results in the top comment.
I live in Northern Sweden and I must say at extreme winter temperatures soft plastic becomes very brittle and easily breaks. Also over the years it ages much more rapidly than the harder plastic.
A few comments were asking for a seam test so I’ll be sure to include that next time. I am not sure how to effectively test it so if you have any thoughts I’d love to hear them.
Also some people were asking for a strength test of the buckles instead of the way I tested them so we did a quick test today and both buckles held 250ish pounds without breaking. I’ll update this again when we find a way to test them with more weight.
For the seams how about loading the backpack with weight and hanging by the straps/handle, and just pulling the pieces of material that are stitched together apart?
There are little digital scales that can test the sharpness of a blade against a piece of fibre. You could get one of those and a double edge razor and remove the stitch from each bag and test how well it holds up maybe.
Take a swatch that’s stitched with 2 pieces. Attach one end to a vise on a table and attach the other end to a clamp, clip, something like that. Anchor a strap ratchet with some paracord to the opposite end of the table. Place a weight gauge between it all and volait.
Not the most scientific test, but if you look how FortNine (a motorcycle review channel) tested seam strength in their new vs old gloves test they placed a scissor spreader in a pair of gloves and compared the amount of times they cranked it before the seam popped.
can you make a common project review :)
it's said to be the perfect white sneaker and what
everybody praises is it's good leather... would be
pretty interesting to know
Can you do a video on the rekanken, the materials are recycled on those. Seems very interesting
Toaster be like... "listen, mate, I don't want you embarrassing me by walking round with that cheap Fancy Forest she#@%t"
Fancy Forest is such a good dumb name! It almost feels like a insult too Scandinavian named brands.
8:13 - i keep rewatching... and rewatching
I think a lot of the price difference comes from using "Fair Labor Associations" for the workers. If that is worth 3 times the price, I don't know.
omg yes! I didn't even think of that but that must be true
True. Joining an organization with the right mission statement - regardless of follow through - is definitely worn around like a merit badge, plus a lot of Patagonia nerds can't shut up about it, so they're easy to identify, then banish from the campfire. :)
Paying for labor vs slave labor... I think that is worth it
@@alisa9040 If you buy the line we're fed by the manufacturers. Patagonia has 13 factories in China. But Patagonia would have us believe that their labor is driven to those factories in limousines and receiving foot massages at the end of the day, whereas every other manufacturer there is whipping the workforce and holding infants at gunpoint to make the women work faster.. I'm thinking Patagonia's working conditions vs. those of other companies in the same country are not actually that different.
@@cobbler88 I'm not expecting them to live in luxury, but I would like it if they (at the minimum) paid their workers a living wage and don't chain their employees to the sewing machines. But I'm not sure how to verify this happening.
Toaster(?) has my vote. I think the sustainability factor is big part of the price inflation, I'm happy to pay more supporting businesses that prioritize the issue.
Maybe that's what the cat was thinking.
"I can poop on this" - Toaster
Surely you would hope that some of the extra cost of a more expensive pack would be going towards the garment/factory workers being more fairly paid, plus the company doing research into more environmentally friendly materials such as their Re-Kanken range? Super interesting video btw!
I have an old Fjällräven somewhere that lasted all through out my childhood. Those fuckers are durable as hell
"Many of the early Kalisis are hot used today" makes me want a Fancy Forest. They are trolling Kankens & that makes them the winners
Alpha Views maybe it’s a play on global warming?
@@RoseAnvil Or maybe it's a linguistic artefact of double google-translate :)
@@xandr13 Exactly I am thinking for.
6:35 I wince at all your videos every time you handle your x-acto blade. Cut towards your buddy, not your body 0__O
gut towards your thumb,not your chum
That's exactly why we all love your videos, the professional background and knowledge but also it's magnetic how you actually get excited for what you're doing and you research things well. Now after the kanken and the vans I realized that good classics would be interesting to see, of anything basically, the trendsetters. Maybe an Adidas Superstar, a Jansport backpack, a vans backpack? Hydro flask? Good luck dude the channel is awesome
Thank you!
Very interesting video, thanks for your work! But I must add something, as you stress a lot on the price difference: the Kånken you bought for 115$ is not the same model as the fake one.
That "Fancy Forest" is actually inspired by the model "Kånken Original 16L" which should cost around 85$.
You paid 115$ for the 15" Laptop version which comes with the back pocket for the laptop and therefore costs more (also there are laptop versions for 13" and 17" with other different prices).
On the price front, I don't think it's fair to compare the price of a premium Kånken model with the replica of the standard model, next time would be better to compare the exact same sort of items. Cheers!
Exactly - wrong Kånken.
I'll cut him some slack for it being an honest mistake since some models appear similar, and that he's not necessarily up to speed on girls' backpacks. (lie to yourselves all you want, boys)
Fjällräven Kånken is not only about a great backpack. It's also a timeless design that will last you a lifetime if you take care of it properly. The fabric is also waxable to make it more resistant to water. The fabric also swells in rain which makes it more resistant to rain, other synthetic materials don't do that. It dries insanely quick and also breathes so it's resistant to mold and other challenges.
The fabric does keep rain out, it will at most give in a little bit of moist inside the bag that goes away very quickly, even if it's pouring outside, I live in a rainy city...
For me personally I keep my laptop in my kånken all the time and have been using kånken får 11 years and it has never let me down. Fjällräven vs Fancy forest is also not only design but also where the bag comes from, how it's produced, ethics, sustainability and a bunch of other factors.
These test might show you a few factors, but the real test is to keep and use one, as a regular backpack, every day over a long period of time. I've had mine through all my studies 10 years of uni and art school and traveled 10 countries with and it still is the best backpack i've ever spent money on.
It has joined me for many different jobs, I do my groceries with it, I do my hikes, camping and many many other needs. So honestly, cutting through a Kånken with a knife and say "Oh I don't know if this is a good buy or not", is kind of silly. Ask people who've had them since the beginning; they will all tell you the same thing.
This was such an excellent comment. I've had my kanken for five years now all through university and art school as my daily bag for every journey, all of my groceries and ever library trip, travelling through london and walks through the woods with friends, festivals too plus it's my cabin bag when I travel (only four different countries though!). I really hope it lasts as long as yours and more, I'll be heartbroken when it breaks.
That tear test is suuuuper surprising. I’m in college and have a regular jansport, I wonder how it’s fabric would hold up? Excited to see your converse video!
I wouldn't worry too much about your jansport. you'll be able to hand that down to your kids. They are known to last a long time - and if they don't, they will send you a brand new one as a replacement
My jansport is 23 years old. Still going strong.
Jans are mighty impressive. Zippers are questionable tho. I have two backpacks. One purchased by me in 7th grade, and one gifted in 8th. So 15 and 16 years ago. Both working fine in 2020
I used the same Jansport from 6th all the way to 12th grade. It was still in great shape, so I washed it and passed it on! Those things never die.
11:22 the cat is finally out of the bag! Errrrrr onto the bag;?
Replete Replete 😂😂😂
I scrolled down looking for this comment, lol, thank you
Very surprised by how tear resistant that knock off backpack fabric was.
Same ha ha
@@RoseAnvil the zipper would definitely be my biggest draw back. I hate crappy zippers.
You should try to redo the test after having the bags in the freezer. Matriels that are soft at room temperature tend to be brittle in cold. Thanks for the great content.
Good idea. But I am willing to bet good money on that Fjällräven handles cold well, they were originally made in sweden for swedes. The classic model has not changed much at all.
I'm usually fine with knock off brands *if they're not just crap.* That's why these videos are so valuable, I'd probably go with the knock off honestly.
Mr.CuriousRandom 100%, same here
@@ToriKo_ I'm really loving Weston's videos. I think he'll go far with this channel
@Jinyoung Stan Yeah. I guess knock off probably wasn't the best term for what I meant. I just don't tend to buy the expensive brand names exclusively for the name. I like to find what will work best for my situation. If it's long term, I'll go for quality. If I'm not going to use it much. Cheaper is better.
@Jinyoung Stan there are some of the fashion brands (Fjällräven isn't a fashion company) where there are Chinese knockoffs that are actually almost as good or as good.
For instance for the companies where they basically just shipped Chinese people to Italy so that they can keep their "Made in Italy" label while underpaying their (chinese) workers. Then they go home and the companies act all surprised that the workers used their experience to make imitation brands.
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/16/the-chinese-workers-who-assemble-designer-bags-in-tuscany
Sure the materials may be similar in the short term (Fjäll undoubtedly will age better) but the zipper (or a seam) will give out on the cheap pack within a year, tops!
I've had my Fancy Forest for 3.5 years now and it's still going strong.
Great test! I would definetly want to see how Fjallraven compares to some othere everyday bags, like Patagonia, Herschel, Timbuk2, Belroy.
This was my school backpack (well - the original version of this pack..) from 1984-thru the mid 90's. I gave it away in 2010. No holes, no breakage. Dirty - but what do you expect from a kid humping it to and from school everyday? Bombproof. I even took it hiking for daytrips now and then. QUALITY.
I wish this guy was my husband...He has everything in that workshop of his...plus a dope cat 💯👌🏼
But would you be a good wife though? 😉
@@justicewarrior9187 Lol Yes of course 😜
@@DeeDerry
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I was sitting in front of this video with my knock off backpack from Vietnam. The design is the same when you compare mine to the real thing, the only thing i was able to notice was the font on the interior label wasn't exactly the same.
I know this isn't possible for everyone of your videos but I think it would be super cool to actually compare knockoffs that are actually pretending to be the brand in question. If you ever find yourself overseas in these Asian countries where these things are produced you should try grab a few to compare with. In Vietnam they call a lot of the street vendors North Face products North Fake, people reckon it all comes from the same factory though (the real and the fake). Thought it was very funny.
A comment in the hardware plastic: Hard Plastic (like in the original one) normally is polypro & it interacts better with the "band" materials of the handles and it docent get hot so early with sun exposure & the soft plastic in the knockoff it's more reactive to environmental heat & it tends to be more slippery with fabrics.
I would say that hard non bendable plastic is preferable because it allows you to tighten and loosen the straps way more easier than with the bendable ones. The bendables knes will also loose their structure making them useless. whats ur opion rose?
Nice comparison! All this great knowledge will be hot used in the future.
Funny how the original Fjällräven logo is just printed where the knock-off logo is actually embroidered and looks neat (still I can figure out what it is supposed to represent and the name sounds silly...).
While 'fjarlraven kankan' makes perfect sense outside of Sweden.
i mean the name is kinda weird even in swedish "mountain fox the carry"
Matias Maass it's slang, like having a thing of water. A closer approximation might be 'polar fox hauler' (the vagaries of which pole we're even talking about would probably test well) It's weird seeing gross 80s lidl shit preschool teachers barely used for storing found leaves on day trips elevated to the level of a used fair condition maxpedition.
I feel ashamed, I've lived in sweden all my life yet I can barely speak the language lmao
@@Skulldolphins I think it's more of a taxonomy than linguistic thing. 🤷♂️ The bags are sold more on the back of being about the whitest piece of webbing on the market without going full waffen, arctic fox hauler would specify you're in the 'good' hemisphere.
I've got the original Fjallraven backpack for about 100 Euros and expected it to last for ages, but the fabric on the corners and edges has frayed completely in about two months. So it's just tiny little holes here and there along the edges. And I see that many people have the same issues with these backpacks. Just a waste of money, and I never going to buy this brand again :(. Though great video! And seeing the fabric tests explains where the issue I mentioned is coming from 🤨
Nice video!!! You should do a video comparison between Dooney and Bourke and Louis vuitton purses leather. I’ve seen videos where the person who bought the Louis purse complaining their leather is already breaking down and it was not even a year. They said they bought it from a legit Louis retailer store but the thousand dollar purse has bad quality. I have a dooney and those purses are so well made. The colors in the leather are amazing, they don’t fade, and the durability lasts for decades
I hate Fjällräven Kånken. I hade it when I was a kid and never liked it, all cool kids had backpacks from Salomon.
OMG...Salomon's are ugly AF!
Still hoping for a tear down/ "Cut in half" of logger/wildland fire boots. Like Whites vs Nicks vs the mass produced red wings and/or danners/chippewas!
The organic cat scan is always correct. LOL
My Kånken is 40 years old. No holes, seams in good shape, buckles original, . It was no longer water resistant, but I fixed that with Fjällräven wax.
My daughter got a fake one (not fancy forest though) 8 months ago, now it needs repair in several places.
You should do a 30 minute video of a bunch of side by side products but the only thing that makes one product better is which one toaster sits on
Solution to the problem of brand name prestige: get a Fjallraven patch and sew it on to a Fancy Forrest backpack.
companies: harder or softer plastic buckle?
me: why not a metal buckle?
Considering that fjallraven is a company that takes pride in its social responsibility, one consideration also worth taking note of is the production chain of the materials of each bag, and the transparency and ethics involved in each step.
One made in China and the other in Vietnam. The chance they were both made in "sweat shops" is extremely high. The probably the cost of producing both is less than $5 (USD) is extremely high.
Yeah, depending on the supply chain of the Vinylon, and who holds the patent, and whether it is using name brand Vinylon, will dictate the price. Assuming Fjallraven doesn't have to pay a premium for the name brand, they're both made for very little money. The Japanese YKK zippers will add to the cost of the Fjallraven, but it's still made for
@Jinyoung Stan It's "complain," not "Complaint." My comment was not a "complaint." People need to make informed decisions. And I don't purchase their shit and make an effort to inform people how scummy businesses like these two are.
Love your reviews I hope you continue to grow so I can see a good in depth review of products I'm interested in before I buy
Fertile Mistro thank you!
Love your videos - what we see is rarely what we get nowadays and $$$ doesn't necessarily mean quality materials. I'd be well up for a material comparison between a Built for Athletes Hero Backpack Vs Reebow Tactical bag (or another identical Amazon/AliExpress clone). Keep up the great work!
"i read it on the internet so it's probably true" HAHAHAHA
Such a nice guy :)
Maybe do seam quality testing? It's important in a bag...
I’ll be sure to include that on the next one!
I have one and actually it's really good.
It is nice to see someone who has expierence in textiles and is a craftsmen break this stuff down
Great video as usual, very informative. I might be willing to spent the money for a pack that ages better. The patina on old Fjällräven packs can be very nice (I may be biased however, because I'm scandinavian).
I'd love to see you do some testing of workwear in the future. I'm a big fan of Carhartt and would be interested to see how Duck canvas stands up to other materials like regular canvas or nylon.
Thanks for the awesome content!
Fjällräven all the way! 😍
Btw Fjällräven means ”arctic fox” and only sounds ”funny ”because it can be hard to pronounce for a non swede!
Ya I struggle a lot with the name ha ha
It's pronounced "Fyell re ven" right?
Fjällräven Kånken was dirt cheap When I was little. Nobody Wanted them but they bought them because they cheap.
Interesting results. I don't think the Fjallraven is worth 3x as much, but overall I think it is a slightly better product because I think over time it will wear better.
Nobody should buy knockoffs. Just don't. Don't reward their blatant copying.
Agreed
Rose, you are just the coolest and cutest sock over here!
I already did buy my Kånken rainbow coloured backpack but I don't regret it because Fjällräven 1. support and donates money to the Arctic Fox Initiative which protects the endangered arctic fox, 2. they care about animal wellfare, for example their trackable down doesn't come from live plucked birds plus it's a byproduct that originally would go to waste, 3. they purposely design their products so they are easy to repair, they do want their products to last long.
I used to not think much about quality and sustainability, but as I matured into adulthood I realized how important it is to consider WHAT we buy and from WHERE, so I think in the future I personally would like to buy more from companies like Fjällräven :) This is just my opinion
Thanks for your video!
I don't know anything about Fjallraven to make a judgement on which is better but I will say if you have a brand you know has good company values, the quality is good, lasts long and overall gets the job done then go with the authentic. If you just need something fast and don't care about all the other things then might as well save your self some money.
I had a PacSafe travel back pack I got when it was on sale about 6-7 years ago and I used it A LOT even for daily school/work. Last year I lost it, I didn't want to spend over $100 on the same bag again (price hadn't changed) but I liked the dimensions, amount of pockets and the straps/buckles. I got a knock off and even though everything looked the same, it started to tear at the seams within 6 months. Needless to say I just spent the money and purchased the same bag because atleast I know the quality is good and I can depend on the materials.
On the flip side, I won't take my backpack to places or activities where I know I'll be careless. Like camping for instance. I just either ask a friend or family member to loan me one or I buy a cheap camping backpack because I don't go camping enough to really justify the cost of getting a good one.
Great vieo, it looks like the Fjallraven buckle has too much internal stress from the molding. They might be the same material, but if it is overcooked when it's molded it'll crack rather than bend when you apply the high force.
Thanks for your input. These videos as well as your comments are definitely meant to help people form their own opinions. I appreciate it.
If you can’t afford an original, why buy a knockoff? To look ‘cool’? Pathetic 😂😂
Kathleen L - 🙌🏽
The Fjällraven should be Made in Europe for this price
PLEASE WATCH THE 2 LAS SECONDS OF THE VIDEO 😂 He is comparing Toaster to the Fjällräven Fox
I've been using a Fjällräven backpack for 16 years now and I love them.
my kanken survived a motorcycle crash with no tears, even though I landed on my side and back. It definitely impressed the fuck out of me.
I feel like the harder more brittle plastic might be better at withstanding the repetitive action that the buckle is meant to perform (sliding the straps to adjust). The more pliable plastic seems like it could deform and loosen and not hold the strap in place over time.
The burn test is pretty terrifying. If it caught on fire it'd melt onto your flesh.
Very helpful. I was expecting a big difference but will probably buy the cheaper bag, after watching.
Most informative.
The Fjallraven No. 2 has metal buckles instead of plastic so I bet that's a lot more durable. More expensive though.
Your cat picked the real bag. That was awesome.
I get It, Kanken is better, but can we take a minute to appreciate how the chinese fixed the organization problem of Kanken?
Were the Fjallraven made in Sweden I would be more likely to pay the extra.
If you are interested in identifying materials more accurately there is a 7 step process called the dukadan test. m,ight be called something different in english, but the steps are very simple to execute. such as dunking it in water burning it, smelling the smoke, exposing it to benzene and esters.
“I ending up burning way more of this I don’t know why” 😂 we all love to watch stuff burn
Thank you for the comparison! Totally agree with the points you made at the end of the video.
I bought the fancy forest by accident but I was surprised to find out that it’s holding up pretty well and it was much better for my bank balance. between the two I’d go for the cheaper i mean it’s just a brand at the end of the day but if your rich enough to spend over a hundred for pretty much the same thing as a thirty quid one go ahead but I’m good.
Same but I didn’t buy it by accident, I bought it intentionally. I‘d really love to own a real Kanken bag very much and I kinda feel bad about buying an imitation, but this is what I can afford for now. It’s been a year and a half and I use it for both uni and outdoor and I don’t regret buying it, because by doing so I could actually start using a bag with the design I fell in love with instead of just waiting for the time in the future where I could potentially buy the real thing. I’ll buy the real thing when that time comes 🤷
Cat decides on Fjällräven, and then sees cardboard box.. 😹
*me having a fancy forest kaldi* 🙃
As I see you if these days dragging or even throwing their satchel or backpacks on the floor/ground, the abrasion test is the most relevant features to test IMHO
Could you review the All Saints leather jacket and compare it to the Acne leather jacket?
Atleast this fake is openly fake,rather than pretending to be genuine.
one thing to remember is the materials are made to be as eco friendly as possible, so that's why it's not fully water proof and stuff
Seems like the cheap bag is not that bad for the price honestly
Both crinkle like dollar store bags. Both are overpriced.
Off topic, but Toaster looks handsome in his harness! Nice job! 🐕😂👵
I have the small fjälräven kånken backpack in all black, with all metal hardware! (bought in a fjällräven store, so it's not fake. :D
You should test popular backpack brands and put weight into them and see which can hold the most
Good idea. I appreciate your suggestion.
The OG is good quality and feels great, but that’s not the whole point of FjallRaven.... the point of the company is sustainability and being as environmentally conscientious as you can. Leaving as little waste as possible in the world and supporting the cause with recycled materials. If you care about even a portion of the environment you wouldn’t think twice to spend the extra money on the FjallRaven...
also the original is made for less back pain
Yeah, and sit on a plane with your kånken and feel like you're doing anything for the climate
You're commenting only on the materials, not at all on the construction
Great vid as always! Could it be possible to test a Jansport backpack?
Good advertising for a 35-dollar backpack. Now we are convinced to get one instead of spending 115$
The plastic piece on the more expensive bag isnt as “tough” but it’s a lot more ridged(stable) so it’s probably better for a buckle material, in my opinion at least. A metal buckle probably would’ve been better than plastic.
you forgot about the straps, the fjallraven is better for your back because of the way the straps are
Came for the shoe reviews, stayed for the adorable cat content.
Great video and wonderful appearances from the almighty Toaster boy! Have you considered taring apart some Palladium boots in the future? Palladiums are kind of like the Dr. Martens of San Francisco: meaning, all the cool people who like quality, comfortable and practical boots are wearing them.
I personally swear by them because I walk around 10 miles per day in them and I have a pair that are 3 years old and the rubber soles still look brand new, the canvas has some mud stains but no damage whatsoever. I kill all other soles (docs included) to the point where there are full on holes in the bottoms and the heels no longer exist in 6 months flat but my Palladiums just don't quit or degrade for anything. Plus, they're the most comfortable and supportive shoes I've ever owned (my arthritic knees even feel better when I'm wearing them) and they're perfect right out of the box, no need to break them in. I wear the men's/unisex baggy canvas model and I'm considering saving up for the same model in leather.
fjallraven has very good hardware and structure. It will last you at least 15y. the fancy forest not even 15months.
Now that you said the logo of the Fancy forest is a leg, I struggle to see the two birds...