i also think that the act of rewatching Tenet is like a subtle interactive / participatory experience within the context of time inversion. watching it the second time made me feel like i went through the time inversion machine as well, now armed with new knowledge... understanding that what has happened, happened. that's just me, maybe :) i just liked the movie
Really nice explanation, the diagrams are very helpful. But I just realized something I haven't seen addressed yet, which is a consequence of this time inversion physic model: if we aren't inverted we can't kill anyone inverted! The reason is that the inverted person must always exist up to the point they reversed their time. So anyone you see moving in reverse cannot die! By the same logic, if you see the reversed person heading to a sliding door, you also can't kill the non-reversed similar person that's simultaneously heading to the other sliding door. The only thing that can happen (as showed in the film) is to unkill an inverted person - ie: you see a dead body on the ground, he rises as you shoot a bullet that goes through him, and then he carries on his inverted live. Once he raises back to life, he can't be killed, it doesn't matter how hard you try. Obviously, the reverse also happens - an inverted person can never kill a non inverted person, in their perspective they can only unkill them. The irony here is, in a fight between you and an inverted person, even though you know you can't kill the other person, you can be killed! This is because each person sees their own time going forward (and you may die in your future) but you see the other person's time going backwards (and it's impossible for them to die at a time previous than now). So while you're fighting, you know you may die, and you know you can't kill the other guy. Unless the other guy is you, and you haven't experienced the other side of the fight yet - in that case you know you can't die, because you still have to fight on the other side. Really weird logic that comes out of this!
Neil died when he was inverted so this reasoning is flawed. I know what you mean, launching a lethal attack on an inverted person would just heal them for your perspective but that doesn’t mean they’re actually okay.
@Wesley The man that killed Neal wasn't fighting Neal. In his perspective he shot a bullet, but that bullet "unkilled" the dead body that was lying on the ground. Had he started fighting Neal after Neal got up, he would be unable to kill him. This logic isn't flawed, it is a direct consequence of the way time inversion works.
but remember that the "inverted" entropy/events are flowing against the more powerful current of entropy, so they get overpowered by that stronger flow and essentially "corrected" in the past. that's why inverted bullet holes, or an inverted injury, seem to manifest out of nowhere right before they are "undone". but also remember that when you invert, you are still traveling into "your" future. its all relative. Neal died while inverted, but he is still dead, because from his perspective he is still traveling to his "relative" future.
These "time folds" definitely help a lot, especially the directional arrows. Would love to see some Tenet plot diagrams like this, at least per certain scenes
Best explanation I have seen! On a side note, it seems to me that time inversion is best for short hops or for a younger traveler. The *speed* of time never changes, either forwards or backwards. So if you spend DECADES formulating a great friendship, you'll have to spend DECADES getting back to its point of origin. That's years of avoiding inverted air and living in containers. You would have to re-invert to resupply, but that only makes the journey even longer.
Thank goodness that's not what actually happens in the film because They only use the time inversion machine for short distances for the missions, trying to re-supply all those resources that you make journey unbearable to do but thank goodness none of the characters in the film have to do that.
FINALLY, someone with a really good way of breaking it down. You are the only one giving the explanation I have seen that has made the clear distinction that when inverted you are not getting younger [which for some reason other people think]. It is an inversion of perspective and your "forward arrow" when contrasted to the rest of the world. Thank you so much for this. I am gonna be using this to help explain it to friends in the future.
This is honest to God the best explanation I've seen. The whole uturn analogy and seeing the timelines drawn out really helps. For the life of me I couldn't understand why people would disappear from others perspectives, or how there could possibly be three of one person at any given time. But now it makes perfect sense.
Brilliant! I've watched many explanations and scene-breakdowns on UA-cam, but yours is the first one to make COMPLETE sense, especially of how sometimes people just vanished. Thank you very much indeed! ☝️😎
This was the first video that actually made a semblance of sense explaining this movie. I still don't fully grasp everything but that's not a problem with this video. This is very well explained. Thank you.
Just imagine all those including me having to research out this stuff after watching a movie :) Few more Nolans and we have more physicists in the next few years :)
Thank you, I was waiting for someone to put it into pictures. Can you please do another explaining inverted bullets and temporal pincers, still don't get it.
Imagine you're standing next to a turnstile. If you see no one for a second, then someone appears inside the turnstile, it means that person was initially inverted, then came back to normal time. If you see someone enter the turnstile, then disappear, it means the person was initially on normal time, then went into inverted mode.
What about the scene in tenet where normal protagonist (un inverted person) catching a bullet (inverted gun), who actually shooting that gun, when they start founding that weird bullet and how the hell they know the protagonist is a man who gonna pull the trigger
What an excellent way of explaining the concept. It was frustrating not being able to figure it out earlier.. Still not there 100% but getting closer - thanks
Thank you for the excellent video, sharing it now. I was finally able to watch tenet just now and luckily found this video! Huge help for understanding the brilliant concept Nolan imagined!
Wow. This helped me unlock a key to the principle of Tenet: AT ANY ONE TIME, THERE IS ONLY ONE COPY OF YOU AND YOUR INVERTED DOUBLE. Your timeline starts when you are born until you walk through an inversion machine. Simultaneously, your double's timeline starts by walking backwards out of the machine and living your whole life backwards upto the day you are born. When you walk out the other end of an inversion machine, to anyone that watched you, you basically entered and vanished. They have no sight of the inverted world. To them, the world is going on without you. In reality, you did not vanish, you walked out the other end and are now existing in a world that is moving backwards towards the moment you were born. In this world, you live alongside your inverted double who has no choice but to re-live your whole life backwards from the date you entered the machine, to the moment of your birth. You on the other hand, can affect things in the inverted world. You can for instance lie low in the inverted world long enough to watch it move backwards to a point when you want to change something e.g. stop a bomb from going off. You can for instance wait to the time ten days before the bomb went off to then walk through an inversion machine in the inverted world. When you walk out the other end, the world starts moving forward again from that point. You can use your knowledge of all the events that will happen up until the bomb detonates, to change those events so the bomb never goes off. You cannot tell these events to others as you may risk them acting differently to change these events, which may mean the bomb still goes off, just through different series of events. Your double is no longer visible to you in forward moving time but infact exists and simultaneously walked backward out of the second machine. He will also simultaneously relive your life walks backwards including walking back through the first inversion machine, all the way to the day you were born. Hope this helps those that are still confused 🙃
Its good all except the bomb thing. What ever happend, happens. If you know about a bomb going off when you are non inverted and want to stop it by going inverted for a few days, go uninverted again days before the bomb to stop it or change how it happens, it will still happen the way it allways happend, it going off while you do all these things trying to stop it. What happend, happens.
Tenet is one of the only movies you can literally spoil and it won't ruin it for people because they're still likely confused about the big picture. I had to watch like 300 videos to really wrap my mind around everything. I watched the movie once knowing nothing, then a second time, and I think the third will be very enjoyable instead of just 'feeling and not understanding.'
Thank you, I've been looking for someone to explain me this. How come this video still has so few views?! I still don't get the concept [spoiler alert!] of two troops (normal and reversed) working simultaneously at one event and then at the beginning the reversed troop transfers important data to the unreversed one.
I don't understand that concept either. When it comes to the interaction between the inverted and uninverted, there's a lot things don't make sense in the movie.
@@phdeng3827 it seems that characters in the movie don't have free will and only participating in a chain of events that had to occur. Like Neil realising he had no choice in the final scene
There is no free will in this movie (whether that applies to in real life is another debate). Before one gets inverted, the actions of your old (regular time) self can be manipulated by your future inverted self (such as being set up to meet certain people). However once you get to be inverted, you realize that the only reason why you exist in the inverted world is because of the sequence of events that happened pre-inversion, which means your future self must set up your old self in order for your current (inverted) self to exist. So while you are preinverted, your old regular time self has the illusion of free will, but you can realize that you need to do specific tasks in order to put your old self in the correct trajectory that makes your current self possible. In other words, cause and effect still holds true since the cause happens (while inverted) before the effect was felt (non-inverted) on the time line. However the tricky bit is that the cause only takes place because the effect was felt, so you need to make sure the cause happens so your old self feels the effect. The reasoning is circular, but the chronology and application works out
i was planning to watch the movie tomorrow. now, after watching this frigging awesome explanation, i wont be able to sleep. shit dude! before i watch it ill make some speculations and come back tomorrow to see if they match. 1) the friend knew about his own death from the very beginning( from the first trip since they occur in parallel). so he must be doing or setting up the stage for something important. 2) towards the middle of his life, the friend has undergone time inversion several times, that too to relive a certain period many times( sometimes as inverted-self and sometimes as non-inverted self) so the important thing/incident must have occurred during that time. 3)the friend's disappearance at the end of his life was also presumably preplanned so that his inverted self can go into past and meet the man( first meeting according to the man). this presumably indicates that his ultimate death in the arms of the man is an important cue to trigger future events. now lets wait till tomorrow. maybe I again overthinked the thing out of sheer excitement. Good lord! Gnar merechhe bara!
@@phdeng3827 hey! watched the movie today. Thanks to you I could understand most of it! It was like DARK- 3rd DIMENSION XD! and my speculations were almost correct. cheers!
Very nice video! that last part might reveal a little bit tho :P If you had a video like this explaining the scenes, maybe that could make everybody understand it :D
The Story at the end is very good. Deos that mean the protagonist met different „versions“ of Neal? Can you similarly explain this with this time diagram?
(BIG MAJOR SPOILER WARNING) The story at the end explains the relationship between the protagonist and Neil. the first time the protagonist meets Neil, Neil has known the protagonist for many years. at the end of the movie, the protagonist watches neil die and then after that watches him leave to go unlock the door and die. after these event's the protagonist goes back into the past and recruits Neil, knowing who he is, but would treat Neil the same way Neil treated him. they go on many missions to the point where the protagonist would likely risk his own life to save Neil knowing in doing so, Neil would return the favor. while none of this is explained in the movie, Robert Patterson shows it in his facial expressions a lot when the protagonist meets him for the first time.
Great explanation. One of the questions that has stayed with me is how does Sator talk to the Protagonist in reverse? Because time is moving in reverse direction to each other. If Sator asks a question at 8:00 and ends the question at 8:02, in the Protagonist world, the time has moved from 8:02 to 8:00. And let us say when protagonist answers the question, it will be 8:03 from Sator's perspective. But in Protagonst perspective, it is 7:59. That means he answered the question first and heard the question later???
No exactly. For the answerer, he will always hear question first, then answer. But for the questioner, he will hear the answer first then ask the question. Let's use and only use the world's time as reference. You are inverted, I am not. At 8:00, I asked a question. Assuming recording and playing reverse takes no time, or if I wrote down my question on a piece of paper, you will hear/see my question at 8:00. You answer the question at 7:59 (because you are inverted). And I will have your answer at the same time (7:59). For me (not inverted), answers (7:59) came before question (8:00). For you (inverted), questions (8:00) came before answers (7:59).
If we use the world's time as an anchor point, it'll be a lot easier to understand. Doesn't matter if you are inverted or not, 8:00 for you, is 8:00 for me.
Thank you for responding... I’ve had sleepless nights after watching Tenet because of such questions 😅... Still doesn’t clear the unimaginable aspect of getting the answer first before asking question...
@@pratapvalsangkar4511 haha if we don't do anything special the conversation between inverted and uninverted will always be 'What did you say?' 'What? I said nothing.'
@@phdeng3827 Ya... one more unimaginable scene is the famous highway scene... when Sator is inverted and chasing the protagonist and Neil... if you see from Sator’s perspective, he first got the briefcase, then did a reverse countdown to 3 🧐
I am now beginning to understand Tenet, the only thing that makes me question the whole time Inversion thing is this situation that I have developed in my mind :- So, imagine you are standing in an open field and on the ground, there is a soccer ball. The soccer ball is inverted (flowing backwards in time). Now I have two options :- 1) I can pick up the soccer ball with my hands by grabbing it. 2) I can pull it towards me from far away because from the soccer ball's perspective, I would be throwing it. The thing that confuses me is that if I make the decision to catch it, I have the choice of catching it really hard or really slow. But we are imagining the situation where the soccer ball is kept on the ground near us. Wouldn't catching the ball really hard change its position and then come to my hand? Because from the ball's perspective we would be throwing it really hard, hence it would go far off in the distance. Sorry for this long question and sorry if its confusing, I hope you get what I'm trying to say.
You wouldn't catch the ball really hard, you'd catch it like how you threw it. There was no force acting upon you when you threw it, so it'd be the same as when it comes back to you. It's like rewinding a video, how you threw it will be played in reverse and that will be how you catch it.
This is a good start, but it doesn't explain how inverted objects and people interact with the regular world. What happens if you get shot by an inverted bullet or are shot while you are inverted? Those are the really complicated things.
Would this essentially destroy free will, if you saw yourself doing something inverted, because you had the knowledge that you would eventually do that? Or is there something else involved?
@@phdeng3827 what happens if right after you exit the inversion machine (right after the U-turn in the time flow diagram), you kill your original you? that would cause a permanent change in the original timeline before you entered the machine. This would cause the 2 sides of the U-turn to be different, and no longer "balanced"
@@radioheadnyc You couldn't. Because 'Red you' didn't die on the way into the machine. You may see the 'Blue you' point a gun, but he will fail to pull the trigger. Then you will go through the machine and also fail to pull the trigger.
@@johnnymittle so if you took 1000 men, cover their eyes with blindcloth and ears with headphone, take them through the turnstile machine and then knife kill the original Red version of the 1000 men, then all 1000 times the knife would magically malfunction? Makes no sense statistically that 1000 out of 1000 would all fail. What if you made it 1 million men? 1 billion men? All of the kills would fail?
@@radioheadnyc I should have added that it depends on what the red person saw before the gun was held up. If there's no glass and Blue you even made it to the Blue area then he cannot shoot Red you. Because Blue you is future Red you and has not been shot. Red you could shoot Blue you and that's fine. For the 1000 men if they make it to the Blue area (you will see this through the glass) without being stabbed there is nothing you could possibly do to stab them on the Red side.
WTF did I just watch?⁉️ 👀🤔 The way you just explained it dude, was a 1000 times more complicated than the movie's explanation of inversion! LOL... My 🧠 brain's inverted now🙏😂🙄😜🤺👤👣🐱🕜🕝
Great video. Isn't there a major mistake in the movie though? If someone goes through the turnslide in order to get inverted and I follow him (let's say 5 minutes later) I will be on the other end of the turnslide "earlier" than him and would have to wait 5 minutes until he is coming out.
I'm just confused at 10:12, how does the "Friend" know you're going to get shot? If at one point, you were both travelling on the same point in the timeline? Before the "Friend" goes through the time inversion machine the first time (the first U-turn) wouldn't he watch you get shot?
seeing your self is only if you have a window ton the other end of the door, that view only playouts within the door area you are going into and coming out, I think this is the area most people get confused at with the movie.
When a person in inverted time got killed, what happened to the corpse? If it stays around before the time he was killed, then does it mean the corpse will stay there forever? And will it decompose? This is the most important thing that bothers me after seeing the movie.
I think the answer is yes. For example, the guy that sacrificed himself in the cave at the end - I think the molecules that made up his body were around since the beginning of the universe, until his body "undecomposed". Other things really don't hold up if you think about them (like why would anyone design buildings with pre-made bullet holes?), but it's a fun idea.
You sir just explained TENET without spoiling a single scene. Legendary stuff.
Oh, he did, he just told us that he does not..
That subtle spoiler though
@Dalej Lama No have you watch the movie
@Dalej Lama The machine isn’t really a spoiler you knew The movie was about time manipulation even in the trailers
It‘s not possible to spoil this movie
i also think that the act of rewatching Tenet is like a subtle interactive / participatory experience within the context of time inversion. watching it the second time made me feel like i went through the time inversion machine as well, now armed with new knowledge... understanding that what has happened, happened. that's just me, maybe :) i just liked the movie
Watching Tenet the first time: we're The Protagonist.
Watching Tenet the second time: we're Neil.
Really nice explanation, the diagrams are very helpful. But I just realized something I haven't seen addressed yet, which is a consequence of this time inversion physic model: if we aren't inverted we can't kill anyone inverted!
The reason is that the inverted person must always exist up to the point they reversed their time. So anyone you see moving in reverse cannot die! By the same logic, if you see the reversed person heading to a sliding door, you also can't kill the non-reversed similar person that's simultaneously heading to the other sliding door.
The only thing that can happen (as showed in the film) is to unkill an inverted person - ie: you see a dead body on the ground, he rises as you shoot a bullet that goes through him, and then he carries on his inverted live. Once he raises back to life, he can't be killed, it doesn't matter how hard you try. Obviously, the reverse also happens - an inverted person can never kill a non inverted person, in their perspective they can only unkill them.
The irony here is, in a fight between you and an inverted person, even though you know you can't kill the other person, you can be killed! This is because each person sees their own time going forward (and you may die in your future) but you see the other person's time going backwards (and it's impossible for them to die at a time previous than now).
So while you're fighting, you know you may die, and you know you can't kill the other guy. Unless the other guy is you, and you haven't experienced the other side of the fight yet - in that case you know you can't die, because you still have to fight on the other side. Really weird logic that comes out of this!
I had to read that about three times before it clicked in my head, but you're absolutely right. I'd never thought about that before.
Now that's some critical thinking!
Neil died when he was inverted so this reasoning is flawed. I know what you mean, launching a lethal attack on an inverted person would just heal them for your perspective but that doesn’t mean they’re actually okay.
@Wesley The man that killed Neal wasn't fighting Neal. In his perspective he shot a bullet, but that bullet "unkilled" the dead body that was lying on the ground. Had he started fighting Neal after Neal got up, he would be unable to kill him. This logic isn't flawed, it is a direct consequence of the way time inversion works.
but remember that the "inverted" entropy/events are flowing against the more powerful current of entropy, so they get overpowered by that stronger flow and essentially "corrected" in the past. that's why inverted bullet holes, or an inverted injury, seem to manifest out of nowhere right before they are "undone". but also remember that when you invert, you are still traveling into "your" future. its all relative. Neal died while inverted, but he is still dead, because from his perspective he is still traveling to his "relative" future.
These "time folds" definitely help a lot, especially the directional arrows. Would love to see some Tenet plot diagrams like this, at least per certain scenes
Best explanation I have seen! On a side note, it seems to me that time inversion is best for short hops or for a younger traveler. The *speed* of time never changes, either forwards or backwards. So if you spend DECADES formulating a great friendship, you'll have to spend DECADES getting back to its point of origin. That's years of avoiding inverted air and living in containers. You would have to re-invert to resupply, but that only makes the journey even longer.
Thank goodness that's not what actually happens in the film because They only use the time inversion machine for short distances for the missions, trying to re-supply all those resources that you make journey unbearable to do but thank goodness none of the characters in the film have to do that.
@@Gadget-Walkmen umm....so Neil...decades of friendship
@@UpcycleShoesKai What? What are you even trying to say here? What?!
This is the best explanation I have seen so far after searching endlessly
FINALLY, someone with a really good way of breaking it down. You are the only one giving the explanation I have seen that has made the clear distinction that when inverted you are not getting younger [which for some reason other people think]. It is an inversion of perspective and your "forward arrow" when contrasted to the rest of the world. Thank you so much for this. I am gonna be using this to help explain it to friends in the future.
Those last few seconds hit the most
Thank you
6:40 Wow, I never got that.
Me too holycrap
The Time Arrow diagram is excellent. Explains all the things !😁
The ending of this blew my mind. Great story! Amazing explanation.
I didn't see the ending. I was too confused.
This is honest to God the best explanation I've seen. The whole uturn analogy and seeing the timelines drawn out really helps. For the life of me I couldn't understand why people would disappear from others perspectives, or how there could possibly be three of one person at any given time. But now it makes perfect sense.
Glad it helped!
Brilliant! I've watched many explanations and scene-breakdowns on UA-cam, but yours is the first one to make COMPLETE sense, especially of how sometimes people just vanished.
Thank you very much indeed!
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This was the first video that actually made a semblance of sense explaining this movie. I still don't fully grasp everything but that's not a problem with this video. This is very well explained. Thank you.
After watching several videos this is the best one explaning the movie. Thank you very much!
Me: Proceed Watching Tenet Explanations.
After Me: Getting Confused.
Then Me: Decide Watching Tenet.
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Damn this makes the interrogation scene in the turnstile scene more understandable. Thats why the soldier said, "saito went to the past"
This is a brilliant explanation! With a twist at the end!
Just imagine all those including me having to research out this stuff after watching a movie :) Few more Nolans and we have more physicists in the next few years :)
Thank you, I was waiting for someone to put it into pictures. Can you please do another explaining inverted bullets and temporal pincers, still don't get it.
Glad you liked it! I may make another video soon.
@@phdeng3827 PLS DO
OH my GOD, my head just EXPLODED
Imagine you're standing next to a turnstile.
If you see no one for a second, then someone appears inside the turnstile, it means that person was initially inverted, then came back to normal time.
If you see someone enter the turnstile, then disappear, it means the person was initially on normal time, then went into inverted mode.
What about the scene in tenet where normal protagonist (un inverted person) catching a bullet (inverted gun), who actually shooting that gun, when they start founding that weird bullet and how the hell they know the protagonist is a man who gonna pull the trigger
What an excellent way of explaining the concept. It was frustrating not being able to figure it out earlier.. Still not there 100% but getting closer - thanks
Like everything in CS, I need a guy on youtube to explain it to me. Best explain ever.
I got goosebumps at the end man. Fantastic stuff. I’ve already seen it btw hence the goosebumps.
Of all the videos trying to explain inversion, this one is the best.
Best Explaination about the movie on Internet!
That time flow thing really helped to understand it thank you!
Wonderful explanation.. Nobody can explain better than this.. How simply explained such a complicated plot.. 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
Thank you for taking the time to make this video! Great content!
Dammit, this would have been really good to have watched before I saw the movie.
Oh and that end example really hits you in the feels.
This is by far the best explanation.
Now it's make sense about the other sator gone after entering into the turnstile... isn't?
Thank you for the excellent video, sharing it now. I was finally able to watch tenet just now and luckily found this video! Huge help for understanding the brilliant concept Nolan imagined!
Glad you like it!
The concept is surprisingly close to the idea in Life Is Strange, a video game. Except that the protagonist herself is basically an inverting machine
Wow. This helped me unlock a key to the principle of Tenet: AT ANY ONE TIME, THERE IS ONLY ONE COPY OF YOU AND YOUR INVERTED DOUBLE.
Your timeline starts when you are born until you walk through an inversion machine. Simultaneously, your double's timeline starts by walking backwards out of the machine and living your whole life backwards upto the day you are born.
When you walk out the other end of an inversion machine, to anyone that watched you, you basically entered and vanished. They have no sight of the inverted world. To them, the world is going on without you. In reality, you did not vanish, you walked out the other end and are now existing in a world that is moving backwards towards the moment you were born. In this world, you live alongside your inverted double who has no choice but to re-live your whole life backwards from the date you entered the machine, to the moment of your birth. You on the other hand, can affect things in the inverted world.
You can for instance lie low in the inverted world long enough to watch it move backwards to a point when you want to change something e.g. stop a bomb from going off. You can for instance wait to the time ten days before the bomb went off to then walk through an inversion machine in the inverted world. When you walk out the other end, the world starts moving forward again from that point. You can use your knowledge of all the events that will happen up until the bomb detonates, to change those events so the bomb never goes off. You cannot tell these events to others as you may risk them acting differently to change these events, which may mean the bomb still goes off, just through different series of events. Your double is no longer visible to you in forward moving time but infact exists and simultaneously walked backward out of the second machine. He will also simultaneously relive your life walks backwards including walking back through the first inversion machine, all the way to the day you were born.
Hope this helps those that are still confused 🙃
This is even more helpful
Its good all except the bomb thing. What ever happend, happens. If you know about a bomb going off when you are non inverted and want to stop it by going inverted for a few days, go uninverted again days before the bomb to stop it or change how it happens, it will still happen the way it allways happend, it going off while you do all these things trying to stop it. What happend, happens.
Can’t wait to watch this video yesterday 🔥🗣️
Tenet is one of the only movies you can literally spoil and it won't ruin it for people because they're still likely confused about the big picture. I had to watch like 300 videos to really wrap my mind around everything. I watched the movie once knowing nothing, then a second time, and I think the third will be very enjoyable instead of just 'feeling and not understanding.'
Thank you, I've been looking for someone to explain me this. How come this video still has so few views?!
I still don't get the concept [spoiler alert!] of two troops (normal and reversed) working simultaneously at one event and then at the beginning the reversed troop transfers important data to the unreversed one.
I don't understand that concept either. When it comes to the interaction between the inverted and uninverted, there's a lot things don't make sense in the movie.
@@phdeng3827 it seems that characters in the movie don't have free will and only participating in a chain of events that had to occur. Like Neil realising he had no choice in the final scene
@@thefunniestreactions Exactly. Guess we all have to just feel it instead of trying to understand it lol.
@@phdeng3827 this is not Christopher Nolan's approach : )
There is no free will in this movie (whether that applies to in real life is another debate). Before one gets inverted, the actions of your old (regular time) self can be manipulated by your future inverted self (such as being set up to meet certain people). However once you get to be inverted, you realize that the only reason why you exist in the inverted world is because of the sequence of events that happened pre-inversion, which means your future self must set up your old self in order for your current (inverted) self to exist. So while you are preinverted, your old regular time self has the illusion of free will, but you can realize that you need to do specific tasks in order to put your old self in the correct trajectory that makes your current self possible.
In other words, cause and effect still holds true since the cause happens (while inverted) before the effect was felt (non-inverted) on the time line. However the tricky bit is that the cause only takes place because the effect was felt, so you need to make sure the cause happens so your old self feels the effect. The reasoning is circular, but the chronology and application works out
Thank You for helping me keep my sanity...
You are very welcome!
It was confusing like hell, but u made it heaven without spoiling 👏👏👏👏👌👌👌
Thank you!! Now I feel like I understand this more. Now I wanna watch the movie again with this new knowledge 😂
This really is the best explanation I saw yet. 👍
The Last Explanation Is Lit 😲
You need to explain the ending of this video lol can’t just leave us in suspense. Good video btw!!!
this is pure genius
Great video man! Please could you explain with the same diagrams the principles of the temporal pincer?
Extremely clever video, thanks so much for that!
I've been searching for something as clear as this video for days... thank you so much!
You are very welcome!
i was planning to watch the movie tomorrow. now, after watching this frigging awesome explanation, i wont be able to sleep. shit dude!
before i watch it ill make some speculations and come back tomorrow to see if they match.
1) the friend knew about his own death from the very beginning( from the first trip since they occur in parallel). so he must be doing or setting up the stage for something important.
2) towards the middle of his life, the friend has undergone time inversion several times, that too to relive a certain period many times( sometimes as inverted-self and sometimes as non-inverted self) so the important thing/incident must have occurred during that time.
3)the friend's disappearance at the end of his life was also presumably preplanned so that his inverted self can go into past and meet the man( first meeting according to the man). this presumably indicates that his ultimate death in the arms of the man is an important cue to trigger future events.
now lets wait till tomorrow. maybe I again overthinked the thing out of sheer excitement. Good lord! Gnar merechhe bara!
enjoy : )
@@phdeng3827 hey! watched the movie today. Thanks to you I could understand most of it! It was like DARK- 3rd DIMENSION XD! and my speculations were almost correct. cheers!
Hmm.....PhDeng's story at the end of this vid has prompted me to watch Tenet again, this time paying closer attention to one character in particular.
By far the best explanation!
This is great explaination with clarity.
OMG THE ARROWS REALLY HELPPPPP TYSM
Very nice video! that last part might reveal a little bit tho :P
If you had a video like this explaining the scenes, maybe that could make everybody understand it :D
the arrow diagram helps so much!
Hey loved the video! Would be cool if you made a version of this where you gave examples using the movie!
Was the story guy friends with his older time traveling self?
Very nice explanation mate! Genius...! Hats off ^^
This one is good! I finally understand tenet a bit more!
That was brilliant!
just amazing.... so deeply explained... thanks .....
This is the best explanation of Tenet
Thanks for your compliment!
Brilliant explanation!
The Story at the end is very good. Deos that mean the protagonist met different „versions“ of Neal? Can you similarly explain this with this time diagram?
(BIG MAJOR SPOILER WARNING) The story at the end explains the relationship between the protagonist and Neil. the first time the protagonist meets Neil, Neil has known the protagonist for many years. at the end of the movie, the protagonist watches neil die and then after that watches him leave to go unlock the door and die. after these event's the protagonist goes back into the past and recruits Neil, knowing who he is, but would treat Neil the same way Neil treated him. they go on many missions to the point where the protagonist would likely risk his own life to save Neil knowing in doing so, Neil would return the favor. while none of this is explained in the movie, Robert Patterson shows it in his facial expressions a lot when the protagonist meets him for the first time.
Holy shiz.....I haven’t seen the movie yet even tho I want to but I didn’t know this video would make sense of inversion 🙃. Thank. You. 🙏🏼
last diagram was a gem.
Thanks!
Great explanation. One of the questions that has stayed with me is how does Sator talk to the Protagonist in reverse? Because time is moving in reverse direction to each other.
If Sator asks a question at 8:00 and ends the question at 8:02, in the Protagonist world, the time has moved from 8:02 to 8:00. And let us say when protagonist answers the question, it will be 8:03 from Sator's perspective. But in Protagonst perspective, it is 7:59. That means he answered the question first and heard the question later???
No exactly. For the answerer, he will always hear question first, then answer. But for the questioner, he will hear the answer first then ask the question. Let's use and only use the world's time as reference. You are inverted, I am not. At 8:00, I asked a question. Assuming recording and playing reverse takes no time, or if I wrote down my question on a piece of paper, you will hear/see my question at 8:00. You answer the question at 7:59 (because you are inverted). And I will have your answer at the same time (7:59). For me (not inverted), answers (7:59) came before question (8:00). For you (inverted), questions (8:00) came before answers (7:59).
If we use the world's time as an anchor point, it'll be a lot easier to understand. Doesn't matter if you are inverted or not, 8:00 for you, is 8:00 for me.
Thank you for responding... I’ve had sleepless nights after watching Tenet because of such questions 😅... Still doesn’t clear the unimaginable aspect of getting the answer first before asking question...
@@pratapvalsangkar4511 haha if we don't do anything special the conversation between inverted and uninverted will always be 'What did you say?' 'What? I said nothing.'
@@phdeng3827 Ya... one more unimaginable scene is the famous highway scene... when Sator is inverted and chasing the protagonist and Neil... if you see from Sator’s perspective, he first got the briefcase, then did a reverse countdown to 3 🧐
Amazing explanation bro
You really explained it well I saw so many stupid vdos which don't explain at all
This was perfect
Thanks!
Perfect. .👍 awsome experience...
You sir are a genies
I am now beginning to understand Tenet, the only thing that makes me question the whole time Inversion thing is this situation that I have developed in my mind :-
So, imagine you are standing in an open field and on the ground, there is a soccer ball. The soccer ball is inverted (flowing backwards in time).
Now I have two options :-
1) I can pick up the soccer ball with my hands by grabbing it.
2) I can pull it towards me from far away because from the soccer ball's perspective, I would be throwing it.
The thing that confuses me is that if I make the decision to catch it, I have the choice of catching it really hard or really slow.
But we are imagining the situation where the soccer ball is kept on the ground near us.
Wouldn't catching the ball really hard change its position and then come to my hand?
Because from the ball's perspective we would be throwing it really hard, hence it would go far off in the distance.
Sorry for this long question and sorry if its confusing, I hope you get what I'm trying to say.
It is really messy when it comes to the interaction between inverted and uninverted objects. A lot still need to be discussed.
You wouldn't catch the ball really hard, you'd catch it like how you threw it. There was no force acting upon you when you threw it, so it'd be the same as when it comes back to you. It's like rewinding a video, how you threw it will be played in reverse and that will be how you catch it.
This video was amazing! It solved a large proportion of my confusion😍
I'm happy that it helped!
So was Neil Sator and Kats Son? The way he tended to Kats wounds?
from fantheory I was convinced enough. MAXIMILIEN (Kat's Son) = LIEN >< NEIL.
nah the protagonist needed she for the plan to work
I thought that. Only because they were both blonde; it made me wonder if the son was Neil from the future
This is a good start, but it doesn't explain how inverted objects and people interact with the regular world. What happens if you get shot by an inverted bullet or are shot while you are inverted? Those are the really complicated things.
Great
Best ending as well
Best explanation!
very well explained
Would this essentially destroy free will, if you saw yourself doing something inverted, because you had the knowledge that you would eventually do that? Or is there something else involved?
No free will. I am thinking about making another video to talk about that.
@@phdeng3827 what happens if right after you exit the inversion machine (right after the U-turn in the time flow diagram), you kill your original you?
that would cause a permanent change in the original timeline before you entered the machine. This would cause the 2 sides of the U-turn to be different, and no longer "balanced"
@@radioheadnyc You couldn't. Because 'Red you' didn't die on the way into the machine. You may see the 'Blue you' point a gun, but he will fail to pull the trigger. Then you will go through the machine and also fail to pull the trigger.
@@johnnymittle so if you took 1000 men, cover their eyes with blindcloth and ears with headphone, take them through the turnstile machine and then knife kill the original Red version of the 1000 men, then all 1000 times the knife would magically malfunction? Makes no sense statistically that 1000 out of 1000 would all fail.
What if you made it 1 million men? 1 billion men? All of the kills would fail?
@@radioheadnyc I should have added that it depends on what the red person saw before the gun was held up.
If there's no glass and Blue you even made it to the Blue area then he cannot shoot Red you. Because Blue you is future Red you and has not been shot.
Red you could shoot Blue you and that's fine.
For the 1000 men if they make it to the Blue area (you will see this through the glass) without being stabbed there is nothing you could possibly do to stab them on the Red side.
I understood it within the first time ,Nice work
Thanks!
Wow can’t believe, I actually got it!!!
best explanation of TENƎ
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WTF did I just watch?⁉️ 👀🤔
The way you just explained it dude, was a 1000 times more complicated than the movie's explanation of inversion! LOL... My 🧠 brain's inverted now🙏😂🙄😜🤺👤👣🐱🕜🕝
Weird... I found this much simpler than the movie (which I still really enjoyed). :)
You are a legend sir.. Thank you..
Great video. Isn't there a major mistake in the movie though? If someone goes through the turnslide in order to get inverted and I follow him (let's say 5 minutes later) I will be on the other end of the turnslide "earlier" than him and would have to wait 5 minutes until he is coming out.
Thanks, its really helpful
thank you! this is awesome!!!
: )
Can you draw Niel's timeline like the best friend example you did at the end of the video? Just curious as to how you would put it.
I'm just confused at 10:12, how does the "Friend" know you're going to get shot? If at one point, you were both travelling on the same point in the timeline? Before the "Friend" goes through the time inversion machine the first time (the first U-turn) wouldn't he watch you get shot?
Very good explanation. Thank you!
Glad you liked it.
really good work
seeing your self is only if you have a window ton the other end of the door, that view only playouts within the door area you are going into and coming out, I think this is the area most people get confused at with the movie.
Come on the protagonist even fight with the inverted version of himself.
Great video. Don't think you should watch it without watching tenet though.
Good job. I think I actually got it in the first 3.
Spectacular
What happen if you face to face with inverted version of yourself?
Nothing
Very good!
I understand the inversion concept, but how do they time travel? For example Kat going back to the yacht at the end?
By inverting themselves, they are time traveling because they are moving backwards in time.
When a person in inverted time got killed, what happened to the corpse? If it stays around before the time he was killed, then does it mean the corpse will stay there forever? And will it decompose?
This is the most important thing that bothers me after seeing the movie.
I think the answer is yes. For example, the guy that sacrificed himself in the cave at the end - I think the molecules that made up his body were around since the beginning of the universe, until his body "undecomposed". Other things really don't hold up if you think about them (like why would anyone design buildings with pre-made bullet holes?), but it's a fun idea.