WATCH A TRAIN BACK UP. Railroad Engineer Explains. UNEXPECTED CATCH!
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
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Conductor gets off and shoves the train. Here's how & why.
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🕺🏻ABOUT DJ: DJ is a locomotive engineer for CSX Railroad since 1999. He has built dozens of layouts, gave presentations for model railroaders, is a UA-camr, licensed drone pilot, and a great father.
DJ, what an awesome catch! It always seems like you can never have enough batteries. Thanks for pulling over and filming the buildings and the train. Always a great day to see the railroad in action.
Trains backing up happens every day by me. The Rochester & Southern shoves cars onto the NS Controlled Siding, half a mile to a mile shove move and the NS usually shoves cars up the RSR Perry Main and leaves them on the RSR Silver Lake Siding. Sometimes an over mile shove for NS crews.
I got a minor B&P derailment a couple days ago with RSR 3807 the rear of the engine was on the ground but the cab area was still on the track it was switching an industrial spur in the LHF position no one was injured
Great video DJ Flying up high like an eagle with your drone
The drone shots are great, they do give me ideas, when I see a messy yard or business it makes it easier to do on my layout and not be so neat and clean.
Thank you
So true!
Thank you, DJ, John in Ohio
Great, even on low battery!
Cool vid, DJ. The traffic was really backed up for the crossing while all this took place. Cheers, Bob
6:00, the first car at the gate: No god please, no! lol
@@pqhkr2002 Amazing he/she didn't try to beat the train.
Great video and drone work brother!
Thanks 👍
Great video and tutorial abt finding buildings to add to your layout. You lucked out catching the NS train pulling in to then push back. That drone really puts the icing on the cake to your videos! Thanks again for your time and effort to get the best footage possible!
Thank you very much!
6:40 - Ooof that student is a little close to the track for comfort. If I were the Conductor I’d have had him walking in front of me, and not that close to the rail.
Excellent video!
I really appreciate your drone videos with a different perspective. And as you mentioned they are great for model railroaders.
Glad you like them!
This was pretty cool, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching
That’s an awesome view and great catch on the train!
Thank you very much!
Thanks for this footage DJ. Ilive in Latrobe and have been by this location before actually got to see SWP operating, great to see the inter change part of the operation.
Well done DJ.
Great video
Thank you making the video DJ. Did you notice the conductor and his trainee didn't protect the shove
I understand what you are saying, but they just came up a few seconds and observed that there was no obstructions and track could hold the cars easily.
I thought Denzel (Frank Barnes) in unstoppable said were 2 miles out on the main you don’t take a consist this long in reverse so just Green sheet those extra empties you cut in
Hollywood.
Yeah I know LOL but great movie the Rail Road would never hire someone like Dewey that causes that whole fiasco now what has happened in trucking in the last 15 years that’s whole other story actually Dewey would not be alone I’m sad to say the big Truckload carriers hire Dewey’s everyday Truck driving was my bread & butter I loved it until I got ill with multiple sclerosis and had to take a disability retirement
Another Hollywood Farse you should comment on is Runnaway Train with John Voight & John P Ryan ??????could escaped convicts really sneak into rail yard hide in one of the locomotives and escape to freedom and would a old Engineer really have a Heart attack & fall off the engine with the the throttle in knotch 8 and hit the emergency brake and the thing keeps going burning off the brakes then that hostler chick that seams to know a lot but not really
Great ideas for modeling these kinds of industries.those 2 white boxcars we're cool, don't see many "clean" cars,of course they won't stay that way for long.drones have really opened up a whole new world for railfans and modelers!
Thanks 👍
Nice Video
Always Great Stuff 🎩🎩off to ya for being out on the Rail 👍🏻👍🏻
Excellent informative video I enjoyed watching DJ 👍😁😁😁🚂🇬🇧
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you so much for posting railroaders railroading. Not enough of this out there
More to come! Thanks for the support, it's more appreciated than you know.
What a fantastic scene to model, you are right. Thanks for bringing this to us. New sub, notifications on, going to look back at your others.
Awesome, thank you!
Pretty awesome to see, Dj. Thanks for the quick lesson on how rr works. Take care.
You bet
Great video. Enjoyed seeing the details around the buildings for finishing ideas.
Glad you enjoyed it
Radebaugh, not far from where DJ did the video of the old PRR tunnel that as “daylighted” in the late 1960s early 70s. West of this junction, with the Norfolk and Southern passes west under Route 66. Just west of that vehicle bridge and on the south side of NS’s main one can spot on satellite photos an old reservoir built by the former PRR for suppling water in the steam age. There was once a tank by the track decades ago. Cool thing to model for either a modern era model RR or a steam layout, a small man-made reservoir with a trackside water tower.
Spectacular catch, and the buildings are super awesome for modeling! 👍👍
I agree!
Very cool video, We enjoyed watching and have a great rest of your weekend.
Thank you! You too!
Great video! That switch is a radio control switch (The only one I can think of on the Pittsburgh side of the keystone division), and for future reference CP Rade is pronounced rad. Essentially like the sounding of Radebaugh with out the baugh
Cool, thanks!
DJ your videos is amazing thank you. Keep it up!!
Glad you enjoy it!
Great video, i love watching these. From the UK i still can't get my head round the very open aspect of your rail lines , no real fencing at all and road crossings with no gates mostly just lights and a bell .
I was staying at the Hawk's Nest Lodge in WV that overlooks the New River Gorge and when I got up I went out on the balcony and noticed during the night there had been a rock slide blocking one track. A few minutes later a loaded grain train came upon it and they had to back the whole train up several miles to the closest crossover...down grade and through snaky curves...very slowly...
crap!!
Taking about "backing up a train". You would have enjoyed the early years of Conrail. How many times in my town a long freight passed, with Caboose...only to hear the train running back in reverse, all the way to Croxton Yard. They had a really kool!...portable horn attached on the Caboose railing, what a sound.
On another Conrail mistake...I was hanging out in a park one Friday night next to an old hardly used freight spur when the sound of a string of locos heading west. West on a Deadend track with like a hundred cars. They stop, Conductor gets out to use the phone. Remember those phones on the poles! So anyway, we hear him talking to dispatch and how they are also on the wrong track. They were supposed to follow the Mainline, but Conductor had switched off the Main about a mile back. Ok Bill...put it in reverse, back to Croxton. Again!
Have more stories, but this is an idea of early days/years at Conrail. When Conrail took over in 76...things got BAD! Crews were away from their homes at times for over a week.
WOW!
That was very interesting. I would have like to work on the RailRoad when I was young. To tell how old I am I can remember steam.
2:10 In Soviet Russia, tank car is buffer for hoppers.
Hahaha
WOW DJ that was awesome. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Most interesting.
Glad it was helpful!
Great ideas to be had from the drone shots DJ 🎥🎥👏👏😎Quality content as always thanks for sharing👍
Thanks 👍
Very nice. Thanks, DJ.
Cool you got your own flag. Soon... your own railroad! Your own Air Force (drones).
Could those new-looking cars be those ARMX or is it ARMN. fridge cars?
I wish I had a better angle
NS is 4 mph or less, but sometimes it's 10 depending on the EN and how motivated you are
Thanks again DJ - great catch!
Another great video, DJ.
Very interesting, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Deege Great capture of a big road hog SD80 road hog & buddy performing switching operations while interchanging w/SWP. Tanks probably to a compressor station …agree the no-graffiti (a rarity theses days) reefers to US Foods….sometime maybe you can do a video on Frac Sand being off loaded on team tracks via track side conveyors, a great modeling idea I’m using on my layout. Now a days you can see them on SWP AVR and down on the OHC in the old Scully Yard Pittsburgh Crafton. I’ve even seen Airslides off loading flour via vacuum for Pittsburgh area bakeries. Great fascinating video as always!
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Funny. I used googlemaps (on 12/22/22) to find this location (Greensburg, Pa.).............. and the satellite shot shows a train with a lot of covered hoppers at this very section of track(s). They were doing the same thing (minus the locomotives, so it must have been the after-shot).
Another cool video explaining the basics of rail operations. As a "civilian" with an interest in this stuff, I appreciate these sorts of things. But I'm curious about the lone tanker immediately behind the engines. Would that be a single car for a different last customer after they deliver the long string of hoppers or could it be a buffer? I understand a hopper or box car is sometimes put between the engine(s) and a consist of hazardous cargo to get some protection for the crew in the event of an accident. If the hoppers were sand, as you surmise, would they need a buffer like that? Unless it was fracking waste and there was something potentially flammable mixed in it? Or some other cargo altogether that posed a hazmat risk? I was just watching another video of a similar train - engines, one tanker, a long string of auto-racks, and then some mixed freight at the end, so seeing that same arrangement again here caught my eye. Thanks!
That tanker next to engine had no placards, so it was not hazmat.
This was a really cool video DJ, love seeing the behind the scenes workings of the RR! I have a quick question, I saw a double stack going through Smithton recently and the DPU was placed almost at the end, but it had like 6 or 7 more well cars behind it, why not just put it all the way at the end? Great video, thanks for posting 👍🏼😎🇺🇸
when they get to Demmler, they'll probably pick up more cars on the rear behind it, or maybe set those cars off at Demmler (mcKeesport).
DJ, I've got a question about how to move a key train on a branch line. At the end of the branch is a two tracks for interchangeing cars. Outbound cars are left on the main and the incoming cars will be shoved into the side track and then pull the outbound back to the main line. Your train consist of the following cars, loaded center beam (lumber), 60' flat (tires for heavy haul mine equipment) 3 empty flats (concrete tie service) 2 bay covered hopper (full, frac sand), two empty 16k tank cars (mag chloride residue), one 19k tank (loaded fertilzer for crops). This branch has three moderately traveled crossings and only protected by cross bucks. No where to run around your train. All cars will be left for this customer.
Thanks DJ.
not sure what the question is specifically?
DJ, when you have a full tank car of hazardous material in a local, full or residue, does it matter where it's placed in the train and your shoving the train on a branch line with crossings only guarded by cross bucks. Should there be another non haz mat car in front of the hazmat cars? Hope this helps.
Nice catch DJ!! Especially those cars right out of the paint shop. It looked they hadn't even been lettered yet. Am I wrong there?
repaint:Standard 60' boxcar BLHX 71003
I saw some huge hoppers/gons in Ashtabula at the CXS yard. Looked to be loaded with scrap metal, OAK RIDGE was the name. Have you seen these? Thought for a min. it might be atomic waste!
we get a lot of those cars around here lately
Thanks!
I sincerely appreciate this!! Have a great weekend!
Great video, DJ! On average, how long will your drone fly on a full battery?
21 minutes
I thought it was impossible or against the regulations to take a consist that long in reverse even old Denzel Washington knew that in Unstoppable
HA!
i always thought those track shacks were kits they put together on site! must be a bitch to move and set up being in one piece!! those wood ties are becoming an endangered species with all the concrete ones i see moving around!!
Hi DJ thanks for the ride!
Enjoyed it thouroughly👍🏻👏🏼👏🏼
Re 7:11 we're those cars without any marks?, sides nor fronts?? Brand new or repainted for a new owner?
Saludos = cheers from 🇦🇷 Argentina
Gracias por el video👍🏻👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏻👍🏻
Standard 60' boxcar BLHX 71003
Brilliant
"LIKE" No 1000!
How long are your railroads allowed to block/occupy a road crossing? Up here in Canada, through freights are allowed to block for five minutes, switching movements for up to 11 minutes.
John
10 minutes by law in my state. (not enforced to be honest). But its the argument against these ridiculously long trains.
State laws cannot be enforced against railroad operations. Attempts to ticket railroads and engineers for blocking crossings have been thrown out of court since railroads are under federal control.
26,000 total YT competitive railfanning foamer points awarded. Key bonus foamer points: Drone railfanning 3,000. Smoking screen 3,000. Stealth aerial crew harassment lol 6,000. Switching ops 3,000. SD60Es 18,000.
LOL!!!
Great stuff. Seeing that red boxcar on the end made me curious whether that was a buffer car to keep space between the engines and those tankers. If so, what are the rules for making a movement like this? So they have to have a buffer at all times or can they run a certain distance without one?
You need a buffer for hazmat, except when switching. There's no need for a buffer at the end of the train. You see it on unit tank trains because it makes switching easier (you can just run around the train and there's already a buffer there) but it's not required by regulation. It looks like the three tanks at the end of the train are placarded for hazmat, though it's hard to tell from the drone view. Presumably, the tank next to the locomotives isn't placarded.
Hopefully, I got that right. I think DJ actually has a video about this but I don't remember which.
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Added flag very cool
THANKS!! NO ONE ELSE MENTIONED THIS! lol
Hi. I am curious about locomotive maintenance. Is the engine oil ever changed in a diesel loco? The black smoke looks like worn rings and I have watched UA-cams where this black exhaust catches fire. Could this be prevented with scheduled oil changes?
Thanks. RT
they change the oil like any engine every 1,000 to a 2,500 running hours depending on how hard that engine is being run ( with road engines sooner than switchers and the locals!!) if memory serves and the black smoke can be a few different things from a rich mixture to contaminated diesel to worn rings to sump oil getting in somehow to a blown turbo!! you get fire out of the exhaust normally only when the turbo goes boom!!
Thanks Keith!
@@djstrains no problem i've got family that goes back to the early 40's B+O steam days here!! my grandpa worked on them in the roundhouse and my uncles were car dept and track gang til they retired!!
@@keithmoore5306 Feel free to answer any viewers questions, it is sincerely appreciated.
@@keithmoore5306 What grade and weight of engine oil is used in a diesel locomotive? And how many gallons of oil does it take to fill a loco's crankcase?
Thanks
I was wondering who was protecting the shove movement?
I look at it this way, they are in a very secluded area with no trespassing. They just came up the parallel track and observed that there was plenty of room on the track and no obstructions. Railroads use remote control engines back and forth with no one protecting the head end once they "ran their route". I didnt go down the side road to see if there was another crew member at the far end, which was a possibility.
@@djstrains So the assumption is, basically, that they've already inspected the track for any "permanent" hazards, and the area is quiet enough that they can assume that no new hazards have popped up in the two minutes since they last saw it?
correct.
@@djstrains I understand that's how you look at it, but what does the rulebook say about protecting a shove like this?
Thanks, I was going to comment on that, too. I thought the conductor and trainee would get on the train while being shoved and protect around that curve. Interesting.
Hmmm, I thought a tank car couldn't be first behind an engine? Or is it OK if it's empty?
empty or class 9 load is ok.
I this up near Jeannette? I kinda recognize that area.
yup
Greengate road next to Greengate center. Hempfield township to be specific.
shoving in the blind always gave me the willies, mathmatics or no
I understand. But they just came up the parallel track a few seconds prior.
This really isn't related to this video, but I recently acquired a drone and have been looking into getting my part 107. I was wonder how you prepared yourself for the test?
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Thank you sir. BTW don't stop making content, I love drone footage and your expertise as a RR makes the comintery outstanding.
DJ flying a DJI
What model was the 2nd locomotive? I know the leader was a SD60E.
NS 6317 a SD40E rebuild
You for got to say witch cars they left there
The whole train.
It would be really nice to see a complete shove from start to finish.
What more did you want? I edited 10 seconds of jerky drone movement out. Other than that, you had the whole thing. Seriously?!!!
@@djstrains Wait. What. That is the whole thing? Oh wow. I thought there was more to it than met my non railroader eye. Something about things always being harder and more complicated than they sound.
I seriously expected that there was more to the move. Thanks for the shot then.
Edit: I don't really understand railroading stuff if my previous comment didn't make that obvious.
I gotcha. Yeah, they simply back it to the track, apply handbrakes, and then disconnect. Lol.
@@djstrains
What can I say. I don't know railroading. I just comment about it in the comment section of a guy with decades of experience.
What’s your take on the recent PEB outcome?
mixed feelings. I am so tired of waiting that Im ready to sign just to get back pay after 3 years no contract or raise. Since I am unmarried my insurance shouldn't go up. They never addressed the root cause of why everyone quits which is no quality of life and rotting in hotels. Its not great, but better than what company greedy bastards offered.
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The conductor trainee was a female. Refreshing to see women working in this industry.
Seeing more and more
@@djstrains It will bring balance to the (work) Force.
-Yoda
@@whiteknightcat too bad we all still work for the emperor though.
@@djstrains I saw his incredibly hostile and condescending attitude in some of the STB testimony earlier this year. I was floored by how arrogant the guy is.
It really isn't that hard to back a train the cars are all connected and they are all on a steel rail. try backing up a double semi....then I will be impressed..LOL
HAHAHA!!