FYI, since a lot of people comment on it: I purposely landed way long. The runway is 11,000 feet, and if you land on the numbers on runway 15 you'll be taxiing a half hour to parking. Also, if you look, there's a white rectangle painted within the runway, it's a "simulated" shorter runway that we use for practice. I pretty much landed on the numbers for that one, which is what I was aiming for. Thanks for watching!
The guys who say this was a bad approach are just further accentuating the fact they've never flown a plane. Stick to the Sim guys. Solid approach and landing
After logging 100 hours in my Cherokee 160, I thought I had learned everything about the airplane. Now at 400 hours, I realized I didn't. The Cherokee makes really nice one wheel landings in crosswinds. Gotta love that Piper landing gear.
last 3rd of runway. came in way too high, I would have eased out that throttle once I had that runway made. nice landing though regardless, got it down and home safe. : )
@@garystewart3110 initially I thought the same... but it’s a big ‘ole tarmac runway. The terminal appears to be at the end on the right. In which case he’s probably aiming half way down the runway to begin with otherwise it’s unnecessary engine time taxying. I learned on 650m grass strips so learned to use every inch of the runway. When landing on big, long tarmac runways have to consciously remind myself it’s not necessary to put it down 30m from the threshold :-)
@@garystewart3110 Hey Gary, didn't see your comment until just now. As I've pointed out to others: I did purposely go a long way down the runway, it's 11,000 feet, and if you land at the numbers on runway 15 you'll be taxiing 20 minutes to parking. Also, if you look there's a white rectangle painted within the runway, it's a "simulated" shorter runway that we use for practice. I pretty much landed on the numbers for that one. But I appreciate the comment!
I don't have that much time in Cherokee 143 even the less time in the arrow but there are definitely a different kind of plane in the Cessna When 50 in 172. I tried doing a hammerhead store with a Cherokee and ended up on my back and had to use the torque of the engine to get me out of a bad situation. Doing that in a Cessna 150 was never problem It was a stupid move but it was great in the 150. Yes I was within instructor in a super gusty day and he was he was yelling at me my landing is it watch it what should watch it watch it watch it watch it ensures we got the leaves everything smoothed out I do perfect landing he was impressed.
You walked away from it so it must have been a good one. Spent my entire life from my teen years on to 68y.o now wishing I could someday learn to fly an airplane. NO LUCK.
Good job!! I tried to land my Cherokee Arrow 200 on a short grass runway with a 20 mph 90 degree crosswind. Made it down to 25 feet but the plane was all over the place. I could see people near the runway staring at me. I decided to abort and go to a better airport. I asked my passenger, "Did you see that, the plane was all over the place?" She said "No, I kept my eyes closed the whole time!" :-)
Never regret it, you chose wisely. I've always been trying to keep myself within my personal limitations no matter what. A wise man used to say: It's better to be on the ground wish you were in the air, than be in the air and wish you were on the ground.
You have an early Cherokee. I love the linear throttle and the switches. They are great planes to land in a crosswind. Solid acft. I ave over 1500 hrs in the 140&180 and around 600 hrs in the Colts. Nice video.
well done, cross winds are usually either a bouquet or a brick ! you did well sir. great memories of the Canterbury aero club here, Christchurch NZ . also that great Cherokee looks to be older type with that throttle ! I loved them. cheers for posting
Hey, thanks a lot for dropping me a line, Dave! You live in a gorgeous country, and what seems like a really strong GA community. And that was by far the best throttle design for the Cherokee!
@@IslandSimPilot cheers for the comments. I started back in 67 on that type PA-28 and later as the fleet modernized the throttles changed to T bar. yep you are right older type for me was easier to fine adjust RPM. I got to 200 hrs with 3 type rating and then got too expensive so I called it quits, but I enjoy clips like you post . genuine no BS flying. cheers again and very best wishes. Dave. ps have a look at my channel there's some of my music clips you may like.
Nice job, and you were landing on rway 15 with crosswind at your nw at 260, and right after you landed, they change landing directions to an alternate rway , you my friend seem to have my bad luck also,lol, must have been a heck of a wind directional change from 260 to whatever it then was reported, probably in the 130 to 180 range if becoming a tailwind to rway 15
I'm really enjoying my Cherokee. I'm doing two or three hours of training per week. I should be soloing soon(next 2 weeks) then I will start posting more videos,
I did my training on Cessna 152s and 172s but I flew a Piper Warrior to landing once and I was very pleased at how stable and pleasant it was on short final to touchdown.
As a former B52 pilot, I land my Cherokee 140 with power, turn to final base at 90, approach at 80 TD at 65 with moderate power. Full flaps. Never had to crab with cross winds.
A prouder moment of my life was landing a piper just like this in a sudden extreme 45 to 60 crosswinds. Ailerons all the way to the stop. I was completely perpendicular to the runway looking through the side window. Nose into the wind about 200 ft off center. Heavy on the throttle. Then backed off the power letting the wind push me backwards over the runway kicking the rudder to bring the nose around at last second to touch down. I was busy. First time in that airplane. I only ever flew 152 cessna before that. There like a kite. The Piper 140 is a faster airplane. My instructor a ww2 pilot (J Basco) said, some people have to work for it, and some people are born with it. You were born with it. My head was 10ft big. But I know that sort of thing kills you in an airplane. And reality will punish over confidence. Life and losses took me away from it. But this vid reminds me of what a wonderful thing it was.. Thanks for sharing.
bcabmac Glad you pulled it off, but I can’t help but wonder...why not divert? I fly an Archer II and the max x-wind is 17kts, worst I’ve done is 22kts as a student. Can’t imagine trying to do double that. Thanks for sharing.
@@davidplatt4737 Thanks for asking. We didn't know what the recorded crosswinds were, until we tied down and got into the office. It was a complete weather anomaly that went way beyond anything predicted. No SIGMETs, CWAs, or on time AIRMETS to know. If we had to consider a go round or divert. I think we would have been in big trouble. And with the sun going down, fuel for range limitations, I'm glad it didn't happen. The storm and ever changing front engulfed most of our state, and surrounding eastern states running N to S 800mls. In our area there was severe hail damage, and mass power outages and other damage throughout the state. As I look back now I think, my God, we could have been in the air as the whole thing erupted to its max. Frankly, I thought for sure we were going to have to abort, but with the sun going down, I had an abnormal determination to fly it to the ground to get down. And inspite of everything being adverse, it was controllable. Albeit with a lot of throttle and rudder dancing. Timing, luck, and the grace of God I guess. I couldn't imagine ever being able to do that now.
bcabmac wow that sounds insane. Now knowing more details, sounds like a great decision and great decision making. When you’re out of options, putting that plane on the ground is always the best thing to do. Thanks again for sharing.
Really nice landing, I am learning to fly a Cessna 172, finally I am on stage one practicing landings, I have some videos and I would like to upload more, I got a go pro camera but I have no idea how to edit the videos. The Caveman.
Thanks, Randy! That's one of those where you're glad you have a 200 foot wide runway :) Can't wait to get a chance to watch some of your videos. - Mike
I have a question, I'm aware that while landing into a Head XW you 1. Rudder opposite direction of the wind to align with the centre line 2. Ailerons into the wind What principle would you apply if it was a Tail XW like in this video?
Same, you just have to pay attention to airspeed. I came in with plenty of extra here. If you come in too slow and get a gust from behind you could wind up with an arrival rather than a landing.
I need to add something to the description, this point keeps coming up (understandably). The runway is 11,000 feet long. We have a rectangular smaller "runway" painted on the main runway that we use to practice landing on smaller fields. You'll see if you look that I land right on that smaller "runway". If I put it down on the actual numbers while landing on 15 I will be taxiing for a half an hour to my hangar. Thanks for watching!
Low time pilot here (~120 hours in PA-28 140/160/180s). I get it was quite the crosswind, also looks to be a significant headwind (ground speed looks very slow compared to airspeed, although videos can be deceiving), but what’s the reason you didn’t cut power when the runway was made? I did all my flight training and still fly out of a 2000ftx40ft runway, so I don’t have the luxury of landing at 1000ft markers, much less way beyond them. I noticed you kept power in for a good 1500+ feet down the runway. May be due to the necessity of landing where I was trained, but if the runway is made can’t you just pull power, maintain airspeed until you need to flare, then land? I would have been in the hill and trees with that landing. I’m always looking to learn
Great question actually. It's a 12,000-foot runway, and Charlie and Delta (where the FBO and the pumps are) are probably 60% of the way down if not more. So I kept the power in a good 4-5k feet down the runway :) If you see that white box about the 1:35 mark, that's what I was aiming for. That's my "mini-runway" when landing on 15.
Just a hint...worry about that sunroof after you are safely on the ground!! Nice landing, been in a couple of scary small plane situations, you seemed pretty cool to me
Nice landing but would have made more sense using runway 33 instead of 15, 70 deg vs 110 deg. Also, I feel like you forced it to land, high approach and not trimmed on final, a go around is always an option. I wouldn't worry about the trim either once I'm on short final or near the threshold. Good luck to you sir, and wish me luck too, I'm still learning ;)
Yeah, they switched the runway right after this landing. See my pinned comment about coming in high - and best of luck to you with your training, it's a ton of fun!
Good landing is the landing, when a pilot can walk out from aircraft by own feet. Excellent landing is the landing, when aircraft still can fly without major repair.
Hello there, i would like to use this video for my own (of course my first) youtube video. if it is in order for you, please reply to this comment. Thank you!!
Its nice when you have over 5000' of runway. Otherwise, you would have had to go around. I had less than 5000' of runway, and landed in a crab. Normally, for a cross wind, I add rudder for line up , just before touch down, but the wind gusts disrupted my timing. The Warrior jerked sideways as I touched down, and I taxied back, after just once around the pattern. Should have taken the hint before take off, when I had to hold short for six arriving aircraft at the uncontrolled field.
The runway is 11,000 feet, but I was landing in that box you see, which is 3,000x100. So I was much more precise than might be obvious at first glance.
Hey Dean! That's for the trim, which essentially maintains whatever pitch attitude you put the aircraft in. You establish the pitch (up or down angle) you want, then instead of having to physically hold it there, you adjust the trim so that the airplane just maintains that pitch. That's sort of a layman's explanation.
Hey! I thought that what it may have been! In my PA28 its based in the middle of the two front seats :) Great video and thanks for sharing! I am hoping to share some videos of my flying in the future too :) ua-cam.com/video/YYJrqoIGVAo/v-deo.html
Great job!!! Keep practice going!! One note, you floated a long way down the runway. Try and land within the first 1000' of the threshold, even better practice trying to land on the numbers . Well done!!
I did purposely go a long way down the runway, it's 11,000 feet, and if you land at the numbers on runway 15 you'll be taxiing 20 minutes to parking. Also, if you look there's a white rectangle painted within the runway, it's a "simulated" shorter runway that we use for practice. I pretty much landed on the numbers for that one. But I appreciate the comment!
Assuming this was a short final, looks like you went straight for the numbers without much of a final approach. Maybe you're like me, in that you want to get out of that wind and on the ground asap, so no sense in a long final approach as long as it's stable and you can line up in time.
Hey Rick, it's actually a bit unique - our runway (KRME) is almost 12,000 feet long, and our hangar is all the way at the other end. So often on my last lap of touch and go's I'll basically aim for a spot halfway down the runway. So it's really a normal approach, just to a different point on the runway. Thanks for watching!
Upstate Flyer Hey that makes total sense. Kinda boring and unnecessary having to taxi 5k feet when you can just land closer to your aiming point. Thanks for the reply and great vid overall. Safe flying!
@@rickkimball6125 Funny story: a couple weeks ago I was second to land behind a Mooney. He put it down on the numbers and got off on Bravo, which is about 1,500 feet down the runway (if that). I put it down 6,000 feet down the runway, off on Delta, and beat him to the ramp by about ten minutes. :) It's very unusual having a GA airport with such a long runway. We were a B-52 base back in the day. Safe flying to you as well!
The runway is 11,000 feet long. I was aiming for the painted runway within the runway. You can see the white rectangular outline painted on the runway. So basically unless you want to taxi for 45 minutes, you land midway.
Thanks Kevin. I was actually adding trim. And the runway is 11,000 feet long (KRME). You'll notice a white rectangle painted within the larger runway, that's what I landed on. It's a "simulated" smaller runway that we use for practice. But thanks for the positive feedback!
one false move and u just give it full throttle, go around and try again :) also you make sure you can handle the winds BEFORE departure. if its to windy for you that day, just dont go fly. also pilots still take instructor lessons just for fun long after they got their license. pilots play their game very safe :)
Yep, down to the 3000-foot runway painted within the confines of the big runway, which I landed on the numbers of (if there would be numbers there). We have a smaller practice runway painted onto the 11,000-foot runway for that purpose. Thanks for the commentary though.
I found it a little annoying at first, but you get used to it. What's really irritating is just the fact that it's not in one particular place, like a trim wheel, you always know where that is. This you have to go searching for (as you see me doing in the video).
@@IslandSimPilot i got somewhat used to it only flew the Cherokee for about 3 hours in training as it was the only aircraft available just sucks especially when focused on outside the cockpit
FYI, since a lot of people comment on it: I purposely landed way long. The runway is 11,000 feet, and if you land on the numbers on runway 15 you'll be taxiing a half hour to parking. Also, if you look, there's a white rectangle painted within the runway, it's a "simulated" shorter runway that we use for practice. I pretty much landed on the numbers for that one, which is what I was aiming for. Thanks for watching!
That is one of the first things I noticed when you started getting closer I was like crap thats a long runway lol
You can tell it’s a huge runway by all those stripes at the end of the runway. 12 stripes is 150 ft in width.
@@AvgDude I actually didn't know that the number of stripes corresponded to the runway width. Thanks for that!
The guys who say this was a bad approach are just further accentuating the fact they've never flown a plane. Stick to the Sim guys. Solid approach and landing
25 year CFI here. Delighted to see you nail that centerline.
That's great to hear, John! My instructor was adamant about that from day 1 - "Stay on centerline!"
After logging 100 hours in my Cherokee 160, I thought I had learned everything about the airplane. Now at 400 hours, I realized I didn't. The Cherokee makes really nice one wheel landings in crosswinds. Gotta love that Piper landing gear.
last 3rd of runway. came in way too high, I would have eased out that throttle once I had that runway made. nice landing though regardless, got it down and home safe. : )
@@garystewart3110 initially I thought the same... but it’s a big ‘ole tarmac runway. The terminal appears to be at the end on the right. In which case he’s probably aiming half way down the runway to begin with otherwise it’s unnecessary engine time taxying. I learned on 650m grass strips so learned to use every inch of the runway. When landing on big, long tarmac runways have to consciously remind myself it’s not necessary to put it down 30m from the threshold :-)
Regarding the 160 and landing, it’s not the gear you love so much it’s those ugly wings that do the trick.
@@garystewart3110 Hey Gary, didn't see your comment until just now. As I've pointed out to others: I did purposely go a long way down the runway, it's 11,000 feet, and if you land at the numbers on runway 15 you'll be taxiing 20 minutes to parking. Also, if you look there's a white rectangle painted within the runway, it's a "simulated" shorter runway that we use for practice. I pretty much landed on the numbers for that one. But I appreciate the comment!
I don't have that much time in Cherokee 143 even the less time in the arrow but there are definitely a different kind of plane in the Cessna When 50 in 172. I tried doing a hammerhead store with a Cherokee and ended up on my back and had to use the torque of the engine to get me out of a bad situation. Doing that in a Cessna 150 was never problem It was a stupid move but it was great in the 150. Yes I was within instructor in a super gusty day and he was he was yelling at me my landing is it watch it what should watch it watch it watch it watch it ensures we got the leaves everything smoothed out I do perfect landing he was impressed.
Don’t forget to keep the ailerons into the wind on the ground roll.
100% correct!
Good aircraft. I had two and have flown numerous types but I love the Cherokee airport to airport you can't beat it.
Airport to airport I could beat it with a Schwinn 😂
A WV van with wings...
nice flight, sir.
You walked away from it so it must have been a good one. Spent my entire life from my teen years on to 68y.o now wishing I could someday learn to fly an airplane. NO LUCK.
Hey Andy, try MS Flight Simulator, it's unbelievable! I've made some videos on my channel. Next best thing!
Good job!! I tried to land my Cherokee Arrow 200 on a short grass runway with a 20 mph 90 degree crosswind. Made it down to 25 feet but the plane was all over the place. I could see people near the runway staring at me. I decided to abort and go to a better airport. I asked my passenger, "Did you see that, the plane was all over the place?" She said "No, I kept my eyes closed the whole time!" :-)
I think you made a wise choice!
Never regret it, you chose wisely. I've always been trying to keep myself within my personal limitations no matter what. A wise man used to say: It's better to be on the ground wish you were in the air, than be in the air and wish you were on the ground.
You have an early Cherokee. I love the linear throttle and the switches. They are great planes to land in a crosswind. Solid acft. I ave over 1500 hrs in the 140&180 and around 600 hrs in the Colts. Nice video.
Thanks very much! I'm now in a newer Cherokee, but this was a great airplane.
Patience will keep your pulse alive. Great landing!!
nice job, i remember learning this, it felt so un natural to have the yoke turned towards the wind all the way through lol
well done, cross winds are usually either a bouquet or a brick ! you did well sir. great memories of the Canterbury aero club here, Christchurch NZ . also that great Cherokee looks to be older type with that throttle ! I loved them. cheers for posting
Hey, thanks a lot for dropping me a line, Dave! You live in a gorgeous country, and what seems like a really strong GA community. And that was by far the best throttle design for the Cherokee!
@@IslandSimPilot cheers for the comments. I started back in 67 on that type PA-28 and later as the fleet modernized the throttles changed to T bar. yep you are right older type for me was easier to fine adjust RPM. I got to 200 hrs with 3 type rating and then got too expensive so I called it quits, but I enjoy clips like you post . genuine no BS flying. cheers again and very best wishes. Dave. ps have a look at my channel there's some of my music clips you may like.
@@davechapman7735 I absolutely will, Dave! And that is a 1966 Cherokee in the video.
Made that look easy and stress free. Nice
Nice job, and you were landing on rway 15 with crosswind at your nw at 260, and right after you landed, they change landing directions to an alternate rway , you my friend seem to have my bad luck also,lol, must have been a heck of a wind directional change from 260 to whatever it then was reported, probably in the 130 to 180 range if becoming a tailwind to rway 15
Nice work.
Thanks!
I'm really enjoying my Cherokee. I'm doing two or three hours of training per week. I should be soloing soon(next 2 weeks) then I will start posting more videos,
Video was very nice and camera placement was great. To those that thought you landed long have never taxied for almost a mile. Good job.
Exactly! Lol - if you put it on the numbers there (KRME) you're going to put on two tenths just getting to the fuel pumps. Thanks Steve!
Very Nice I just bought my first airplane last week, It’s a Piper Cherokee 140
Been checking out your channel! How are you liking the Cherokee?
Nice. It lands like a station wagon. You'll probably get used to it.
I did my training on Cessna 152s and 172s but I flew a Piper Warrior to landing once and I was very pleased at how stable and pleasant it was on short final to touchdown.
It's funny, I just started flying a 150 and I find it super easy to land.
That could easily have been a disaster. Great job.
As a former B52 pilot, I land my Cherokee 140 with power, turn to final base at 90, approach at 80 TD at 65 with moderate power. Full flaps. Never had to crab with cross winds.
Yeah, I know a guy who says fly it off, fly it on! Works well for him. Thanks for your comment!
Overall great set up and landing!!
Thanks!
A prouder moment of my life was landing a piper just like this in a sudden extreme 45 to 60 crosswinds. Ailerons all the way to the stop. I was completely perpendicular to the runway looking through the side window. Nose into the wind about 200 ft off center. Heavy on the throttle. Then backed off the power letting the wind push me backwards over the runway kicking the rudder to bring the nose around at last second to touch down. I was busy. First time in that airplane. I only ever flew 152 cessna before that. There like a kite. The Piper 140 is a faster airplane. My instructor a ww2 pilot (J Basco) said, some people have to work for it, and some people are born with it. You were born with it. My head was 10ft big. But I know that sort of thing kills you in an airplane. And reality will punish over confidence. Life and losses took me away from it. But this vid reminds me of what a wonderful thing it was.. Thanks for sharing.
bcabmac Glad you pulled it off, but I can’t help but wonder...why not divert? I fly an Archer II and the max x-wind is 17kts, worst I’ve done is 22kts as a student. Can’t imagine trying to do double that. Thanks for sharing.
@@davidplatt4737 Thanks for asking. We didn't know what the recorded crosswinds were, until we tied down and got into the office. It was a complete weather anomaly that went way beyond anything predicted. No SIGMETs, CWAs, or on time AIRMETS to know. If we had to consider a go round or divert. I think we would have been in big trouble. And with the sun going down, fuel for range limitations, I'm glad it didn't happen. The storm and ever changing front engulfed most of our state, and surrounding eastern states running N to S 800mls. In our area there was severe hail damage, and mass power outages and other damage throughout the state. As I look back now I think, my God, we could have been in the air as the whole thing erupted to its max. Frankly, I thought for sure we were going to have to abort, but with the sun going down, I had an abnormal determination to fly it to the ground to get down. And inspite of everything being adverse, it was controllable. Albeit with a lot of throttle and rudder dancing. Timing, luck, and the grace of God I guess. I couldn't imagine ever being able to do that now.
bcabmac wow that sounds insane. Now knowing more details, sounds like a great decision and great decision making. When you’re out of options, putting that plane on the ground is always the best thing to do. Thanks again for sharing.
Really nice landing, I am learning to fly a Cessna 172, finally I am on stage one practicing landings, I have some videos and I would like to upload more, I got a go pro camera but I have no idea how to edit the videos. The Caveman.
well done and great control for such gusty conditions, oh god i have that trim being on the roof, such a poor design choice
Excellent. Just hold that puppy off and into the wind and she'll eventually get down.
Yep. Patience is the name of the game.
nice landing imagine that in the dark sir
Pretty cool
Thanks Manuel!
Great landing! Your panel is set up very similar to mine
Thanks, Randy! That's one of those where you're glad you have a 200 foot wide runway :)
Can't wait to get a chance to watch some of your videos.
- Mike
I have a question, I'm aware that while landing into a Head XW you
1. Rudder opposite direction of the wind to align with the centre line
2. Ailerons into the wind
What principle would you apply if it was a Tail XW like in this video?
Same, you just have to pay attention to airspeed. I came in with plenty of extra here. If you come in too slow and get a gust from behind you could wind up with an arrival rather than a landing.
Nice landing!
Thanks!
Thank you for sharing. I'm also learning in a -140. Curious, did you have full flaps?
Hi Gerald! I don't use full flaps for normal landings, especially in a good crosswind like this. My normal landing is two notches of flaps.
Nice job. Your panel is pretty close to my 1966 140 … what year is yours?
That's also a '66, though I have since upgraded to a 1973 180.
I only flew Cessna aircraft with the exception of a couple of tailwheel airplanes. What's the handle you turned on the ceiling?
Pitch trim
That's the trim. Kind of a weird place for it, but you get used to it.
Question: What is that handle you reached for on the ceiling of the plane?
Hiya doc, that's the elevator trim. It's on the ceiling in those 60's Cherokees.
NICE!!!!
You kept it nice and straight flying over the runway. For a minute I thought you were planning to land at the departure end
I need to add something to the description, this point keeps coming up (understandably). The runway is 11,000 feet long. We have a rectangular smaller "runway" painted on the main runway that we use to practice landing on smaller fields. You'll see if you look that I land right on that smaller "runway". If I put it down on the actual numbers while landing on 15 I will be taxiing for a half an hour to my hangar. Thanks for watching!
@@IslandSimPilot ok that’s cool thanks for the reply!
Nice job!
Thanks!
Looked good to me.
Thanks!
what is the handle on the ceiling for?
That is for elevator trim, it helps control the airspeed and pitch angle.
Good job
nice job dude
Thanks man!
Low time pilot here (~120 hours in PA-28 140/160/180s). I get it was quite the crosswind, also looks to be a significant headwind (ground speed looks very slow compared to airspeed, although videos can be deceiving), but what’s the reason you didn’t cut power when the runway was made? I did all my flight training and still fly out of a 2000ftx40ft runway, so I don’t have the luxury of landing at 1000ft markers, much less way beyond them. I noticed you kept power in for a good 1500+ feet down the runway. May be due to the necessity of landing where I was trained, but if the runway is made can’t you just pull power, maintain airspeed until you need to flare, then land? I would have been in the hill and trees with that landing. I’m always looking to learn
Great question actually. It's a 12,000-foot runway, and Charlie and Delta (where the FBO and the pumps are) are probably 60% of the way down if not more. So I kept the power in a good 4-5k feet down the runway :) If you see that white box about the 1:35 mark, that's what I was aiming for. That's my "mini-runway" when landing on 15.
Nice 👍
Thank you!
Is that a runway painted inside a runway @ 1:38? Is that why you landed where you did?
Yeah, I don't quite know why it's there, but it is, and that is what I was aiming for on this one.
Ah - that explains why at first I was like “dang that’s a short final!”
Just a hint...worry about that sunroof after you are safely on the ground!!
Nice landing, been in a couple of scary small plane situations, you seemed pretty cool to me
Hey Devin, that's not a sunroof, that's actually the elevator trim for the plane. :)
Thanks for watching!
im a tailwheel guy, that would have been tough
Good ole ASA headset 😂 can’t wait to get rid of mine and I’m sure ATC can’t either lol
I've since upgraded but I have to say that headset served me just fine for all of $99. I used it for about 8 years!
As long as you have a long runway.. keep a healthy amount of air speed until you get below the tree line. try Montauk point Long Island NY.
You know what? We're huge fans of Rick's Crabby Cowboy Cafe! One of my goals in life is to fly out there, land, and walk across the street for lunch.
Nice landing but would have made more sense using runway 33 instead of 15, 70 deg vs 110 deg. Also, I feel like you forced it to land, high approach and not trimmed on final, a go around is always an option. I wouldn't worry about the trim either once I'm on short final or near the threshold. Good luck to you sir, and wish me luck too, I'm still learning ;)
Yeah, they switched the runway right after this landing. See my pinned comment about coming in high - and best of luck to you with your training, it's a ton of fun!
Good landing is the landing, when a pilot can walk out from aircraft by own feet. Excellent landing is the landing, when aircraft still can fly without major repair.
Wrong. We need to set our bar higher than that.
Hello there,
i would like to use this video for my own (of course my first) youtube video.
if it is in order for you, please reply to this comment.
Thank you!!
Hey, just saw this, please do!
Its nice when you have over 5000' of runway. Otherwise, you would have had to go around. I had less than 5000' of runway, and landed in a crab. Normally, for a cross wind, I add rudder for line up , just before touch down, but the wind gusts disrupted my timing. The Warrior jerked sideways as I touched down, and I taxied back, after just once around the pattern. Should have taken the hint before take off, when I had to hold short for six arriving aircraft at the uncontrolled field.
The runway is 11,000 feet, but I was landing in that box you see, which is 3,000x100. So I was much more precise than might be obvious at first glance.
What is the handle on the roof for? :)
Hey Dean! That's for the trim, which essentially maintains whatever pitch attitude you put the aircraft in. You establish the pitch (up or down angle) you want, then instead of having to physically hold it there, you adjust the trim so that the airplane just maintains that pitch. That's sort of a layman's explanation.
Hey!
I thought that what it may have been! In my PA28 its based in the middle of the two front seats :)
Great video and thanks for sharing! I am hoping to share some videos of my flying in the future too :)
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Ah! Didn't realize you were a pilot! Yes, that's the trim in the older Cherokees.
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And braking you pull lever under the dash...
Great job!!! Keep practice going!! One note, you floated a long way down the runway. Try and land within the first 1000' of the threshold, even better practice trying to land on the numbers . Well done!!
I did purposely go a long way down the runway, it's 11,000 feet, and if you land at the numbers on runway 15 you'll be taxiing 20 minutes to parking. Also, if you look there's a white rectangle painted within the runway, it's a "simulated" shorter runway that we use for practice. I pretty much landed on the numbers for that one. But I appreciate the comment!
@@IslandSimPilot ty for addressing this, you are the PIC you make the decisions and you determine what is right or wrong.
Looked like you stuck it fine to me.
Thanks Daniel!
Gusty crosswind??
Wind was 90 degrees off runway heading, 12 gusting 18, I think it's in the description.
@@IslandSimPilot doesn’t look like that based on wind correction angle
No problem landing long with enough runway, especially if you’re hangar is halfway down a long strip. It looks plenty long in the video
My hangar at that time was completely down the other end. If you land on the numbers you taxi for 25 minutes :)
Assuming this was a short final, looks like you went straight for the numbers without much of a final approach. Maybe you're like me, in that you want to get out of that wind and on the ground asap, so no sense in a long final approach as long as it's stable and you can line up in time.
Hey Rick, it's actually a bit unique - our runway (KRME) is almost 12,000 feet long, and our hangar is all the way at the other end. So often on my last lap of touch and go's I'll basically aim for a spot halfway down the runway. So it's really a normal approach, just to a different point on the runway. Thanks for watching!
Upstate Flyer Hey that makes total sense. Kinda boring and unnecessary having to taxi 5k feet when you can just land closer to your aiming point. Thanks for the reply and great vid overall. Safe flying!
@@rickkimball6125 Funny story: a couple weeks ago I was second to land behind a Mooney. He put it down on the numbers and got off on Bravo, which is about 1,500 feet down the runway (if that). I put it down 6,000 feet down the runway, off on Delta, and beat him to the ramp by about ten minutes. :) It's very unusual having a GA airport with such a long runway. We were a B-52 base back in the day. Safe flying to you as well!
Good landing!! But, you should try to put it on the "15 End" and not the "33 End" ... of the runway! LOL!!!
The runway is 11,000 feet long. I was aiming for the painted runway within the runway. You can see the white rectangular outline painted on the runway. So basically unless you want to taxi for 45 minutes, you land midway.
Where is crosswind?
Off the right at 90 degrees.
I'm sorry I fly a 180 an that was a horrible landing way too high an youre taking trim out on landing? you should of went around
Thanks Kevin. I was actually adding trim. And the runway is 11,000 feet long (KRME). You'll notice a white rectangle painted within the larger runway, that's what I landed on. It's a "simulated" smaller runway that we use for practice. But thanks for the positive feedback!
Should of went around? ? You aren't bright enough to give advice to anyone.
Don’t think I could ever pilot an aeroplane, one false move in wind like that and ..Very skilful but very hairy .
one false move and u just give it full throttle, go around and try again :) also you make sure you can handle the winds BEFORE departure. if its to windy for you that day, just dont go fly.
also pilots still take instructor lessons just for fun long after they got their license. pilots play their game very safe :)
"Interesting" instrument panel layout.
...now do it in a taildragger...
Good thing it was a long runway after flying what maybe 1,500 Ft past the 1,000 Ft touchdown markers!
Yep, down to the 3000-foot runway painted within the confines of the big runway, which I landed on the numbers of (if there would be numbers there). We have a smaller practice runway painted onto the 11,000-foot runway for that purpose. Thanks for the commentary though.
jesus man that looked scary as fuck! good landin tho
Looked more adventurous than it was. It was actually pretty fun. Thanks for watching!
Nah that’s a pretty tame crosswind in my opinion lol
Why not fly it on and flair the aircraft properly rather then let it fall on the ground. retired CPL.
I will consider landing perfectly next time. Thanks for the feedback!
The tilt on the roof is the worst design they have on this i hate it with a passion
I found it a little annoying at first, but you get used to it. What's really irritating is just the fact that it's not in one particular place, like a trim wheel, you always know where that is. This you have to go searching for (as you see me doing in the video).
@@IslandSimPilot i got somewhat used to it only flew the Cherokee for about 3 hours in training as it was the only aircraft available just sucks especially when focused on outside the cockpit
18 losers so far !!!
Haha! I hadn't even noticed actually, that's funny!
6 DPEs thumbs down on this video!
Okay!
You did great. Ignore the armchair critics.
Worst landing I’ve seen mate lol
Great, thanks for the feedback!