What Cymbals Did Ringo Play on Please Please Me?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Brendan shares some insights on Ringo's cymbals and recreating the cymbal sound on Please Please Me. Having the right cymbal can be crucial to getting closer to a Beatle sound.
I like how Ringo's hi hat sounds the best on Happy Just To Dance With You. Through please please me, it sounds like Ringo has the hat closed through most of the songs, so it had that very Beat like sound I like.
ill be doing a video on his hi hats soon
@@LazerBrendan oh cool
Can you please do a cover of magical mystery tour?
Yeah, that's a great songgg, and the drums is so rythmic
Hi Brendan, very informative! Keep them coming, I really enjoy all the tutorials but these reviews are the best, drums are the best! You are a very talented and informed musician/drummer great job!
Cymbals are a set of instruments that creates a sense of atmosphere (My personal opinion). I didn't know that his cymbals were perforated.
Thanks.
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I really appreciate the research you did and the fact you got almost the exactly same gear. Mad respect.
You guys are unbelievable
great info, we just covered this song. The cheap cymbals gave him a unique sound!
Contrary to the Ajax info here, this is something out there more plausible - Ringo used Stanoples for the Paistes in the early days... 18'' and 20''. you can see them on some early photos since their bells are hugggeee UFO type things. There also is a rumor that he used 14'' Arbiter 602 hats on the Please Please Me album.
I Wonder How Much They Cost On Ebay. I Have A Ludwig Snare Drum In My Bedroom. So I Can Definitely Have A Minor Drum Set.
Nice video, I've always loved Ringo's cymbal sound but information has always been very sketchy. I bought some vintage zildjian A's off ebay and I found the sound to be a decent approximation (14" hats, 18" crash ride with rivets that I removed, plus a 22" ride with 2 rivets, maybe a bigger cymbal but I find it still sounds pretty close, a bit like Ringo's on "I'll cry instead")
Thank you very much, what kind of cymbales used by Ringo on his Ludwig classic maple?
( sorry for my bad english, i'm from Belgium)
I had some New Beats back in the early 80s that sounded a lot like the ones used on Come Together!..Should have kept them...
hey blair! luckily in quarantine, I have my set of 14" zildjian/istanbul hi- hats which is the closest I have gotten to his famous pair. you can hear them on "Don't Bother Me" on our channel, but I'll be making a similar video as this one for those hi hats!
Still waiting for the Band on the run cover.
Ringo on halfway
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Hey Brendan, I know this isn’t the particular topic of this video, but I’ve been listening closely to Abbey Road for the drums and I’ve noticed that Ringo has 4 different distinguishable cymbal sounds (other than his hi-hats). There’s that cymbal on Come Together, which I can’t hear on anything else (I also noticed the drum sound in this song is quite different than the other songs on the album apart from entire tea rags on the drums), the cymbal on I Want You, Something, Oh Darling and the bridge in Here Comes the Sun, the other cymbal in the bridge in that too, and the Zyn Sizzle. I think that the cymbal played on I want You, Something and Oh Darling is what you said that A Zildjian & CIE is very close to, but I don’t know what those other two that I mentioned are, whether the mixing has differed their pitch and they’re actually the same cymbal or something and where else they are in the album. Do you have any ideas? By the way, I’ve been loving these drum videos so far, I’m obsessed with Ringo’s sound.
Please do more of these gear videos. Especially for drums! I loved your Hollywood kit video, and I’d love to see one on the Black Oyster Pearl kit!
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This is a small detail but I really like your drum sticks. What brand are they? They have that vintage look
ajax model e. very old and made from lancewood
Brendan Peleo-Lazar Thank you so much ! I’m surprised on how much cross sticking it has experienced it looks like its in pristine condition
@@jamqc24 I only use them for some videos!
What if we all dm ringo at the same time and ask him
We will all be tossed
jwaj with peace and love
Yess
This was very interesting and helpful. Can you do more Ringo drum info videos?
Very interesting, Brendan (and I am not even a drummer!).
Thanks for this, and please keep these kinds of videos coming.
I read a Keltner interview recently in which he said he told George that he was taking the hi hats when he was leaving Friar Park at one point. He said that he had been intending to give them back to Dhani.
next time I run into jim keltner here in hollywood, ill ask
I’m still wondering when fixing a hole is gonna come out. One of my favorite Beatles songs. And of course all the supplemental videos to. Stay safe wash your hands thank you guys for doing the things that you do I’ve never seen people this dedicated I love it👌🙏
Could you please do a cover of the end by the Beatles please it’s my favourite Beatles song
Triple guitar solos! But it would be Neil, Andrew, Andrew, Neil, Andrew, Andrew etc. It's not bad it just a bit weird
We've been holding off on some Pepper stuff hoping we can get Neil a Casino or Esquire. Neil's played guitar on Blackbird and Ob-La-Di for the channel
Ably House could you do a cover of the end
Guitar Kid TJ - Yes, I’ll be working on that one. Great guitar stuff
Ably House absolutely Thankyou
Fantastic - more like this please! The ones where you talk are extremely valuable to many of your viewers. I'd also be curious about how you categorize the various Beatles tempos and grooves in your mind. Which songs use the same types of grooves; which earlier drummers influenced them; how you guy set the tempos for your videos (do you have the track in your headphones to match the tempo changes?). I've noticed after extensive study that Ringo, Hal Blaine, Art Jackson, Modeliste, and James Brown's various drummers all have a certain ebb and flow appearance when you look at their tempo maps.
LET IT BE, ATLES.
When you can’t find the cymbals anywhere
cool.
I had an uh-huh moment when you revealed your hi-hats as AGOP Xists. I recently went shopping at Drumtek for a 16" crash and we tried out numerous cymbals in the store to get that dry, medium decay sound I wanted, which was something Freddie Marsden might play, and the cymbal I settled on was an Xist. The guy who sold it to me told me that it was part of a budget pack of cymbals and he didn't know why it was out loose from the box. It's a cheaper cymbal but it was exactly what I was looking for.
Basically, whatever drummers could afford back in the 60s.
Ajax was an acceptable ride cymbal for many starting out and probably easier to play than Kamala, Krut, and Zyn - all budget.
Super Zyn would have been considered a luxury, although Avedis Zildjian was offered with Ajax and English Rogers kits.
You would occasionally see Ufip cymbals. I read the manufactured five-star Super Zyn for Premier.
I did also read, way back, that Ringo used Paiste cymbals - Dave Clark may have used them also.
Apart from a brief time using Trixon drums, Dave Clark was essentially a B&H drummer - prigressing from Ajax to English Rogers - but then, of course, USA Rogers after negotiating an endorsment contract.
Enjoyed you video, very much!
Ringo invented the slightly open hi hat that produces that sizzle sound. Perhaps do a video on that?
yes absolutely. in fact, since I learn something new every time we record, I now believe it’s a misconception how Open his hi hats were. there is a bit more technique to that, the open wash was never enough to destroy the integrity of the cymbals.
Brendan Peleo-Lazar added wrist technique along with a certain sway of arm movement?
@@MICKEYDELFINO Yeah, I think a lot of Ringo's hi hat sound is actually how he strikes the cymbals, with that swishy side to side movement
Uhh, I heard Krut. Krut was a higher end cheap cymbal used by many British drummers. Washy and Turk spelled backwards.
The cymbal ending on please, please me is definitely a "sizzle" cymbal.
DID that Sonor tractor drum stool come from a Florida , Rogers drum member ? Same one in the Monkeys photo with Davey Jones sitting at the drums
is your "new" hi hat really warn out, or did you get rid of the labels ha...just asking , they look better with out the them, and really want to know ! thanks!
are those hi hats the istanbul agop 14" xist about 220$ new ? thanks!
Can you please do 'with some help for my friends?"
maybe
I love these videos!
Ringo sucks!!!
Nice!
Was anyone else here waiting for him to hit one of them at least once?
please refer to our previously released videos from the ppm era to hear these cymbals!
Hey man. What cymbals did Ringo use on Let It Be?
Great channel by the way :)
Ringo also got a very unique 'trademark' washy sound out of his high-hats: many videos I've seen of Ringo riding on semi-closed hi-hats with a 'sweeping' motion of his right hand playing the hi-hat notes as opposed to straight 8th note hits on the hats. On many tunes the hi-hat ride pattern sounds almost like a ride cymbal with a constant 'wash' as opposed to just tight 'chicks' on the hats. I have a set of hats that closely approximates that sound: an old Zildjian 15" thin with rivets for the top paired with a heavy 'Zenjian' 15" hand-hammered bottom. Amazing the sounds drummers were able to get out of their cymbals before the plethora of cymbal choices available to drummers today.
The crash at the end of Ask Me Why sounds like a rivet cymbal to me. I have a Zildjian "S" thin 20" crash. It's very bright and would also work well. You might have to wait a year to find the Ajax.
are you a lefty?
no but I have been playing lefty bass for almost two years
I’m curious so you use 20” crash ride and 18 ride, what new cymbals are similar many thanks love the channel.
Do a cover of Nowhere Man
PLEASE SHE SAID SHE SAID
I love this channel
Hey guys, do Come Together
Will you guys cover “Boys” ?
Andy White claimed he played on this, on top of Love Me Do and PS I Love You, There is a 100% confirmed take of Please Please me with on drums, not sure how honest Andy is about playing on Please Please me.
ShuiKintoki Refrigrator - Im not sure if its 100% confirmed. Read the wikipedia on it. Andy White recorded the song that day, but they aren’t sure if they saved the take. Geoff Emerick claimed Mal Evans set up the drums for Ringo after Andy White left. Thats why the tape was undiscovered until 1994, it could have been an impromptu take with Ringo to make him feel better after sitting out the entire session
@@AblyHouse That Anthology studio take is definitely Andy playing. No way is that Ringo.
Didn't Mal Evans go get their strings and cymbals , sticks ? I've always been under the impression that they were none too picky about that stuff , it was " hey Mal , go get strings " or " we need another cymbal " . It seems that some of the best music was recorded using the worst gear , just my two cents . I'll go back to the shadows now..........
Hey, you do mention good points but keep in mind, going out to a guitar shop in 1965 to buy two Fender Stratocasters (which mal famously did for example), would yield different results if the same request was made today, especially if the buyer was not the most knowledgable on the subject. Instruments were just better made back then and there were less options. Arbiter would supply Ringo with enough sticks, but it is still unclear how Ringo's signature stick from ludwig or arbiter came to be, the man himself does not remember. So basically, I think the beatles were picky to a certain degree but since instrument quality was so good back then, things did not matter as much. In terms of cymbals, Ringo used his ears and found some pretty amazing instruments that were as musical as his band was.
Brendan Peleo-Lazar great point , I think I'd have a beer with you anytime and exchange ideas , thanks for the response
What ur email
Ablyhouse@gmail.com
Quick question, how do I message you on Patreon? (I dont wanna sound creepy)
I think you just create an account and message me!
@@AblyHouse er I think I must pay on patreon. I will one day but I can't rn..
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Lol, Ringo didn't play on early Beatles records. Purdie and that white guy, I forget his name, played on those early records. It's legitimately debatable that the Beatles did nothing more than sing and none of them played. Sounds crazy at 1st but there is good evidence.
Tele Caster - check out their Washington 1964 show! Thats all the video evidence of their skill you need. The studio versions are tame compared to that, Hollywood Bowl, and their other live stuff
There’s actually almost no evidence that Ringo or the rest of The Beatles didn’t play their instruments. All 4 were truly incredible musicians. So, you’re wrong
Settle down. That rumour has been going around for years & it’s false .
There has never been such a thing as a black musician on a record. Every record in history that supposedly had black musicians, like Jimi Hendrix, B.B. King, Chuck Berry, every one of them, was actually performed by white Europeans.
@@gehbw lmao that's just as absurd as the op