@@VideoSaySo I know what you mean, poor thing had such a funny walk from being kept in those cages. I love how he would just eat all the food being thrown down instead of waiting for the laidies. XD
My grandfather had to sell a cow we had for a long time and we all loved. When she went to the sale barn, as we were leaving, she heard the truck motor and head and shoulders she rose up above the others, bawling for us. We all cried all the way home. If I had had the money I would have paid my grandpa to keep her at home.
I don't understand how you can spend time with these beautiful, intelligent, emotional beings and still think of them as food. Humans are very narcissistic when it comes to other species aren't we?
Cows are very intelligent and fast learners. My ox, Dozer, comes to a whistle like you see some horses do in movies but he is a 1 ton Holstein steer. He is also trained to ride like a horse and knows many voice commands and cues. Just the other day we had to tow a pickup truck up the road backwards and Dozer noticed. He has seen many vehicles and them being towed normally (forwards) but when he saw that one in reverse he tried to figure it out and ran up to the fence and started mooing at it saying it was doing it wrong LOL. He looked at us in the towing truck then back at the backwards truck several times, and almost looked distressed at it. It amazed me that as a cow he would notice such a small change as being towed forwards and backwards.
@@GuruRasaVonWerder how do you figure matriarchy " gives animals their due"? In the farming and herding world I'd say female animals are most highly prized . I suggest we apply this to our own species and stop giving our uteruses up to abuse with abortion. We act like cows, giving bodies no respect as women, selling ourselves to the coporate labor world and our uterine contents to the medical industry. We disrespect ourselves and deny our greatest power. All for the benefit of tax revenue and a labor force
Cattle is my favorite animal.A national animal of Andorra.And my favorite dairy breed of cattle like a Holstein Friesian and Guernsey.and now I going to be a Dairy Farmer.⛹🏾♂️🐄👨🏾🌾🥐🥤💙🇦🇩
One thing this program failed to cove was cow's strong attraction to music. No matter if the instrument was guitar, flute, bagpipes, or even piano (yes somebody even set up a piano in the corner of a field), the cows would always gather closely and listen carefully, rhey'd stop eating and would remain still while the music was being performed. There's some YT videos showing this too.. very amazing. Music appreciation generally equates to higher intelligence, so It says something that cows behave that way...
My favorite is the guy in Oregon who played his saxophone for some cows. You can see one far away starts coming over right away as soon as she heard the first note. ua-cam.com/video/hWjtiB0Jkow/v-deo.html
Also, not music, but similar - baby elephant Navann "performing" for a herd of cows who gather around to watch. They are at Thailand's Elephant Nature Park, a rescue sanctuary. ua-cam.com/video/pDmEBNPZ5wE/v-deo.html
I love whoever is responsible for subtitles on this one. "Judy breeze cattle this traditional way service isn't going to hurt to study their behavior as the intracellular caterpillar the cows."
Cows have friends. They wait for each other at gates, graze together, and sadly, mourn when one or the is gone. They're afraid of the dark, doing much better physically and give a good 10% more milk if there is a light on in the barn overnight. Throw in music - and don't laugh - they like Mozart, and the milk production goes up even higher. Stroppy cows are better behaved too, with lights and music.
When we brought in a heifer before her first calf she had to learn which stall was hers. We'd bring the herd in and they'd walk in choosing their stall with never a mistake. Then in came the heifer and we'd coax her into her stall. After a couple days of mistakes she'd know her stall for the rest of her life. Each pair of cows had their own drinking cup which would hold a couple quarts of water. It had a paddle in it when pushed the water would run filling the cup until the cow was done. A new heifer would have to be shown how to get water. A couple days of pushing the paddle for her she'd understand how to get water. It helped that the other cow would push for water so the hiefer would know it came out but hadn't gotten the mechanics down. In the spring when the cows went out day and night the drinking cups would all be tied up because the got their water at one of the water tanks outside. The cows would fuss with the cups off and on for a day or two until they'd ignore the cups. Then when the weather would get cold and the cows stayed in the cups would be used again. The cows that had used their cups the previous winter knew how to get water with no training at all. Anyone who thinks cows aren't smart are just ignorant. But I love cows so take that into account.
Knowing all this how can you continue to abuse their entire life for profit? How did you feel when you sent them to slaughter? As intelligent as they are do you have any idea exactly how much they suffer when they get to have their heads chopped off? I finally stopped eating all animal products because I simply cannot be a part of this horror show. Raising animals for consumption is also the most resource intensive earth destroying way to get food. We have zero need to abuse cows this way for food.
@@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 Thanks for stating the Truth. And does he take away the calves from the Mothers for slaughter or starvation until slaughter to be used as veal? Torture for the Mom, torture for the babe. And did you notice how that fake farmer bitch cried at having to kill that poor young steer, just because he was SLIGHTLY LAME? Then sent him off for murder. Could you not provide a place for these poor animals to retire? I mean put the poor guy out to pasture, let him live off grass & a bit of hay, let him sleep outside if you don't want to provide an indoor place. After serving you all their lives, can't they get their few last years to live until natural death? They aren't humans who live to 80, they live maybe 15 years. Surely you could put them to pasture a few years & let them live? But no, these farmers, like most people, worship money. All for them, nothing for the animals. Keep posting like this, bust these bastards chops, show them there are people out there who have hearts & intelligence. Humans are deplorable the way they treat other animals, animals are Sacred. They don't sin, as do humans. Fukk humans - mostly Patriarchs & their systems, agendas & POV'S. Bring back Matriarchy.
@@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 there have been studies on cow stress at slaughter . They design the pens and slaughter area with that in mind. If the animal is killed kosher, a surgically sharp blade is used so that the animal loses consciousness immediately, and there is little pain ..... or none.....because of the sharpness and method. Animals killed with the pressure gun have more physiological stress and it affects the meat. People are omnivores. So are chimps and monkeys. So are birds. People have bigger brains who est complete protien. If you jsd yo be vegan in the natural world you would die young and underdeveloped with malnutrition . Veganism only works in a modern world with manufactured nutritional supplements that do not occur naturally
Considering giving up my job to live in a field amongst the cows.... I live cows; such peaceful, lovely creatures! Underestimated & underrated--- I would love to frollic among them!
Please don't raise them in a farm where you simply bring them up to send them to slaughter - rescue victims from this horrible industry that treats wonderful animals like they are commodities. RESCUE THEM and love them all their natural lives LIKE DOGS AND CATS - they are no different from our pets that we love.
Bell schmell, that was proven 1000's of times a day in the old days when small dairy herds returned from pasture to barn when called in order to get their scoop of grain..for you city slickers the grain mixture is a treat for the cows....
The difference is that when the cows were called for food, they associated SOMEONE ELSE doing something that brought them food. In this experiment, they are trying to see if the cows will take the initiative to 'do something' that will cause more food to come. They are not 'calling' the cows with a bell instead of a voice, but leaving a device in their environment and then trying to make the cow understand that if the cow just wanders by and rings the bell, food will come - any time, based on THEIR initiative, not the initiative of a human being calling them at set times of day.
Not just dumb farm animals, as I've heard from numerous farmers or at least farmer's children. Absolutely wonderful insight that will surely not go unnoticed by the agricultural science community. Thanks much for sharing. Your simple yet sincere dealings with people & the animals you study is remarkable; I found it interesting that I would suddenly tear up and become so affected by what you've discovered.
Look how the woman allowed the bull to be taken to slaughter, just because he had a minor limp. Why not just put him out to pasture? Leave him be? She sold his life for 1 thousand pounds it says. Fukk the money. Is she broke? And when Lichen died suddenly, it could have been of a broken heart over the bull. I could not look at thie movie any more after the bull was taken away to me, all those 'intelligence' tests were NONSENSE.
I don't think that it would have broke the bank of this farm to have retired that friendly, trusting , loyal bull ! My Uncle had a bull who became lame, just like veebee , but my Uncle had had him for 7yrs and he had earned his RETIREMENT in my Uncle's eyes. BIG BILL is still a trusting, loyal old boy and enjoys his days grazing and watching all the comings and goings on the farm. Poor Veebee.😥
such innocence, humility and trust exquisitely visible in these beautiful partners of our lives. we owe them in multitude of ways; milking, meat, breeding, giving a beautiful company etc.
@8:29 - On another documentary, a man who raises an ancient breed of cattle said that the older, less modified breeds are much smarter and the more common ones that have been domesticated were "dumbed down" as they were selected for certain traits.
The death of VeeBee was horrible. I hated how that guy was encouraging her and telling her it was the right thing to do etc. Did she get a vet in to see if the cow could be helped? She didn't have to send VeeBee to slaughter! But I guess she had the 1,000 dollar signs in her eyes. It was at that point of this documentary that I started hoping all the cows would turn on them both and carry out a stampeding rampage.
news flash,, all her cows and bulls will be slaughtered for money, because,,, she raises cattle. Cattle means meat. They will be consumed. It's her livlihood. What you saw here was an exceptionally good farm, with space, free range pasture, and much longer lives than usual...If you want to get snitty about the commerical food industry,, and there is plenty thats wrong with it,, just start off by understanding that what you just saw , Is WAY Above average for the industry. Way. 98% of males are slaughtered shortly after birth, they don't get years, they get days.
"She had the 1000 dollar signs in her eyes"? Really? Like 1000 dollars is an insane amount of money haha. She did what needed to be done for the farm. Just keeping a bull that doesn't produce offspring costs loads of money that you don't get back. If she kept him she probably would've had to send more of her cows to slaughter to keep up the farm
I love cows. I also eat them. Before being Vegan: there is no discrepancy After being Vegan: what the hell man, don't kill and eat someone you feel love towards to, that's insane
Excellent, Both my mother and fathers parents were involved in agriculture. My fathers lived in the Isle of Skye. My cousin still keeps cattle there. My mothers parents farmed above Loch Ness, where my uncle still runs it with the help of his family. The cattle are anything but stupid. Well done for a very informative programme.Highly appreciated.
I can't believe that they are discussing the tenderness while eating a cow, and talking about the cows intelligence and unique personalities. Disconnect or what???
ABSOLUTELY total disconnection - if they were dogs would they be discussing them this way????? Oh, the dachshounds are so sweet and intelligent and their tiny legs are sooo scrumptious with your sunday omelette ... PEOPLE ARE SICK SICK SICK and they don't even realize how sick they are when the evil is built into the culture
Gabe Hernandez That was the first thing I saw while watching that I thought to look at the comments about. Crazy cow lady for sure. She definitely offed that cow.
That's the downside of farming animals. There's no satisfaction to be had in offing the nasty ones, since the whole point of the whole operation is eventually offing every single one of them.
Sadly, the calves are usually torn away from the mother way before weaning, so humans can extract more milk and more profit from the cow. This is a meat farm, so perhaps they don't exploit the cows for milk and create great distress in the cows by removing the calves unnaturally early.
This is why we bred cattle, for milk, leather and meat, they are fulfilling their born destiny to provide for us. Thank you cows, you are useful and delicious. A farm like this should be a cows dream!!
Does anyone ever stop for a bit to play some music for the cows on the farm fields? I'm curious how many do that themselves, I put on some Blue Suede Shoes and it looked cute the way they all just waddled over.
No wonder my father was such a cow w hisperer. He understood cows..the flight zone and all. I wish he could have explained this to me as a child. I was responsible for bringing the cows from pasture to barn for milking. What it taught me was how to run...really fast and to jump or dive through fencing.lol
A very nice fairy tale of how the average cow wanders in pastures in the English countryside and the farmer knows them all by name. This is Disney. The real thing well.
Yes you didn't say the part where they are killed and desperately trying to escape the slaughterhouse and of course the horrible drive to the slaughterhouse
@@thejack9178 Exactly why we all need to STOP PUTTING these beautiful animals' tortured remnants inside our stomach - it's SICK SICK SICK AND TOTALLY UNNECESSARY AND HARMFUL addiction as a society.
As humans need to give huge credit in the science department to mice and chimpanzees... In economics, infrastructure, agriculture, and transportation we need to give cows credit! Just think about it; they give us meat, milk, butter, cheese, fertilizer, skin ( used in the car and aviation industry), from early days we get bones from them that we could use as a tool or weapon. I admire cows!
They don't 'give' us anything - we take it! I feel sorry for cows. I don't admire them for their wonderful 'gifts' since we basically destroy their natural instincts and ultimately kill them to extract those 'gifts.' Giving cows credit? I call bullshit. That's kindergarten thinking ('Our Friend the Cow' and all the 'gifts' we 'get' from the nice cows). Give 'credit' to human beings figuring out how to utterly exploit an animal to the point that not a single bit of that animal is not sacrificed for human consumption or convenience. They are pure animal sacrifices by humans, just no longer burnt up as an offering to the gods - apart from the gods of consumerism and materialism.
Industrial dairy farming, what a miserable existence for the cows. I’m 64, and it’s a far cry from the dairy cows my Grandma had, who lived for 15 years or so. Today’s dairy cows, depleted, and sent off to the knackers by five years.
The food test works on fish two. I use pincers and make a clicking sound in the water when I'm going to feed them and they come out from hiding. If I don't do it they don't come out because they're easily spooked
may all beings and creatures be free from enmity and danger, may all beings and creatures be free from mental suffering, may all beings and creatures be free from physical suffering, may all beings and creatures be free from suffering, may all beings and creatures protect themselves, may all beings and creatures be able to take care of themselves peacefully. source: www.wildmind.org/mantras/figures/sabbesatta
It's so sad: slaughtered (killed) after 3 years of milk production when they would live longer, and the milk is designed not for humans but for calves. Then there's a male who "can't earn his keep." Why should he? Just let him live. The "commercial value" isn't cows' reason for existing.
Well, IMO other cows just thought, that if the plastic sheet was taken off, the whole thing doesn't work My grandma had a cow that could open the barn's door if she wasn't satisfied with the ration she was given and supplement hay in her own Depending on the type of door she used horns or tongue
Hi, And thanks for such a wonderful video showing some great ideas about cows and have they haven’t they got brains. Reference the bull who went lame, that might be obvious to a farmer, but not to me. Was there nothing to be done to treat the lameness, I mean ever?
A breeding bull on a commercial farm is not a pet. If a persistently lame bull can't breed and starts losing money, no sane farmer can afford to pour more money into treating ongoing lameness on the off-chance it might get better. All the while it's not able to breed cows, no guarantee it will ever breed cows again, and it's costing more and more to feed and house. Cattle on a beef farm must bring in more money than they cost to keep. Otherwise the farmer must cut their losses, slaughter, and recycle the money earned from the beef back into buying a more productive breeding animal to replace the one lost. Being soft-hearted and treating livestock like pets will end up making the farmer homeless.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS... ANY LIVE CREATURE THAT HAYS EYES, CAN MAKE A DECISION & T H A T IS A CONSTRUCT OF INTELLIGENCE... PERIOD @ 55:00 FANTASTIC.. THANK YOU FOR SHARING
Litchen is funny and sassy, but that seriously dangerous if she is that aggressive. Cows in fight or fear kinda thrown them in a direction and you best not be in the way. I’ve had cows all my life and I’ve been fortunate enough to have no aggressive cattle, males or females. Now, the more I hear about other people’s experience I don’t think that’s too common.
What's strange about this experiment is these people's thoughts about cows. My grandfather had a cattle ranch and as a kid, I would play around them. I grew up believing cows to be thinking animals and nothing these people did to prove it surprised me. My girlfriend also grew up around cattle and saw them as I did. Over the years as adults push their narratives concerning not only cattle but animals, in general, we came to accept some of their ideas, sort of. However, as I grew into my individual self, at around 50, I reverted back to my childhood beliefs. My father who was then 75 began to see things as I did and became kinder and more in tune with animals in general. He stopped killing them.
Next crime watch - a story of rural vendetta. After she poisoned her husband's favourite cow, and he injured her favourite bull in revenge, leading to it being slaughtered, they finally went for one another. Who will survive?
Umm guys possible Mandela effect here at 13:37 didn’t Pavlow use a *bell* to teach his dogs to salivate, not a light bulb?? Literally it’s always been a bell when did this super famous experiment use a light bulb?
Cognitive dissonance makes it easy to say an animal is an individual, has a personality, can like or dislike others, is intelligent, etc., but then turn around and kill and eat it. Truly sick. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
Not everyone gets cognitive dissonance over eating meat. It's perfectly natural, normal, and healthy to participate in a food chain. Most people do not believe it is immoral and therefore their actions are not against their beliefs - no hypocrisy, no cognitive dissonance.
OMG, they eat cows on a cow farm! Wow. Seriously guys, these are cow-farmers and they HAVE to earn money and that's just how they do. Seriously, I love cows and haven't ate beef for a long time, but being angry at a cow armer for killing his animals is stupid. They are farmers and that's just what they do for a living.
A heifer is a female beef animal that has never had a calf. A bull is a mature male beef animal. A steer is a castrated male beef animal. Most of the beef that is consumed is from steers, but it can also be from a heifer or a cow.
When we were little we'd fight over which cow belonged to who. My brother would decide which cow was his cow and my sister the same. Then we'd boost each other on top while they were in the barn and sit and scratch and rub them. Then when it was time to let them out Dad would open the stanchions and they'd all head outside to eat some more. Dairy cows eat, drink water, eat, lay down or stand around chewing cut, eat some more get milked while eating then go outside lay down chew cud then do it all over again. All they do is eat. They have to eat and drink a lot to produce milk. So the cows would go out and we'd ride them out into the pasture. If they decided to lay down we'd lie down with them draped over the top. The reason they were so tame was due to handling them every day since they were born being fed milk twice a day as calves. Every calf was trained to lead from day one so when they got older and we'd decide to show them at the county fairs or state fairs there was no trouble with training. We learned from day one that no matter if the cow was your cow, my cow or her cow if the cow couldn't stay they went to the either the butcher or the stock yards. We'd be sad but we always knew there was always another coming along to fill its place.
+Ted Nelson How can you not understand how psychopathic that sounds? To measure a sentient beings value in its utility to humans? All sentient beings value their lives. That's what gives them moral value. Nothing else. Ted, imagine that an alien species arrived on earth and decided to use humans in the way that we use animals. They own us as property. They mutilate us. They impregnate us. They take babies from mothers. They send us to slaughter once we stop making money. Do you think that those aliens were acting in a morally good way? Do you really not believe that it would be morally better if they didn't do that? If, rather than raising and killing humans, they ate plants. Wouldn't that be a better world? If so, then why not in this case? How are we any different to that alien species?
The Bible states, Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them HAVE DOMINION over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and OVER THE CATTLE, and over all the Earth ...." Be kind, but keep on ranching!
The fact that the cow hears the bell and comes for food is no different from the cow hearing the farmer coming out with the bucket or seeing the bucket. It's just a simple association with food and the person calling 'hey cows, come for food!' or banging on a bucket of food or whatever. Simple association. Nothing to get excited about because all animals do that: they associate what they see or hear with food. Duh. The problem is, has the cow even realized that she's the one ringing the bell? They accidentally bump into the bell when they are eating the food. They don't 'know' that they are hitting something with their noses that makes the bell ring. So it's a straightforward association: they don't 'make' the farmer come banging a bucket and shouting, 'Here, cows!' and they don't 'make' the bell ring (as far as they know). The problem is really, 'Do cows take the initiative to DO SOMETHING that will bring food?' For example, do they bellow for food when they are hungry, and then associate their own bellowing with the farmer coming with food? If they do something like that - if bellowing is not just an instinctive noise of distress, not associated with making anything 'happen' as a result - then the cow should not be able to learn to 'do something' - like ringing a bell - to make food happen.
Those look like Charolais. Are they? I believe Charolais are beef cattle. After hearing the name Blonde d'Aquitaine cattle I looked it up. They do look very much like Charolais and both originated in France I believe. When I was a young man I worked on a dairy off and on for eight years where our main cows were Holstein with a few Jersey and Guernsey added in for a better butter fat content. All the cows had personalities which I could associate with girls I knew in high school. Some are dumb as rocks while others are smart as a whip, not that I knew any girls who were dumb as rocks.
So she gets to know all these cows, gives them names, talks about how smart and self-aware they are, how they have feelings and each have an individual personality... and then send them off to be violently killed? There's something wrong with you if you can do that.
Don't be a ninny. Just because cattle are headed for McDonald's doesn't mean this lady can't give them a good quality of life while they are on her farm. It's better than being indifferent to them and their needs.
It's better that someone lives a nice life before being violently killed than living a horrible life before being violently killed. That much is true. But it's still terrible. That's why we put murderers in jail, not just the murderers who first torture their victims.
We need them for food, so why not take the best care of them since they will someday feed many people. They are slaughtered quickly, not violently hacked alive...
catman529outdoors We *don't* need them for food. The book The China Study (based on the biggest study ever done on health+diet) shows being vegan (if done right) is healthier. Veganism can provide enough protein/energy for a very active lifestyle, as the vegan professional athletes prove. See the website www . greatveganathletes . com
Watched The Private Life of Chickens, now it's time for cows! Because Lockdown.
I was so scared that all of those hens were going to peck poor confused Lloyd to bits when they left him in the enclosure with them! 😱🤣
@@VideoSaySo I know what you mean, poor thing had such a funny walk from being kept in those cages. I love how he would just eat all the food being thrown down instead of waiting for the laidies. XD
@@mogmoogle8183 😂
This was next up on my suggested videos...it was pretty cool! ua-cam.com/video/Bi_eB89mlOU/v-deo.html
@@VideoSaySo Thanks, I will check it out! :)
My grandfather had to sell a cow we had for a long time and we all loved. When she went to the sale barn, as we were leaving, she heard the truck motor and head and shoulders she rose up above the others, bawling for us. We all cried all the way home. If I had had the money I would have paid my grandpa to keep her at home.
That's so sad. We would never do that to a family dog. Sorry you had to be a part of that experience. I hope you don't eat meat.
you could have saved her - but people have no hearts
Wow your gramps sounds like a piece of 💩
@@luchalerae7687 the saints say the majority of people go to Hell. That means they are demonic, that's why they act as they do. No hearts, no love.
Go vegan
I don't understand how you can spend time with these beautiful, intelligent, emotional beings and still think of them as food. Humans are very narcissistic when it comes to other species aren't we?
Cows are very intelligent and fast learners. My ox, Dozer, comes to a whistle like you see some horses do in movies but he is a 1 ton Holstein steer. He is also trained to ride like a horse and knows many voice commands and cues. Just the other day we had to tow a pickup truck up the road backwards and Dozer noticed. He has seen many vehicles and them being towed normally (forwards) but when he saw that one in reverse he tried to figure it out and ran up to the fence and started mooing at it saying it was doing it wrong LOL. He looked at us in the towing truck then back at the backwards truck several times, and almost looked distressed at it. It amazed me that as a cow he would notice such a small change as being towed forwards and backwards.
So when does Dozer become hamburger?
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Never LOL he is safe for the rest of his life. :) But the cows in the other field are not so lucky.
I have two! Asset and Profit. They're smarter than my dogs.
Animals are Sacred. Bring back Matriarchy which gives animals their due, does not use them up, exploit them, abuse them as Patriarchs do.
@@GuruRasaVonWerder how do you figure matriarchy " gives animals their due"? In the farming and herding world I'd say female animals are most highly prized . I suggest we apply this to our own species and stop giving our uteruses up to abuse with abortion. We act like cows, giving bodies no respect as women, selling ourselves to the coporate labor world and our uterine contents to the medical industry. We disrespect ourselves and deny our greatest power. All for the benefit of tax revenue and a labor force
Same I watched the private life of chickens and now I’m watching the private life of cows
Cattle is my favorite animal.A national animal of Andorra.And my favorite dairy breed of cattle like a Holstein Friesian and Guernsey.and now I going to be a Dairy Farmer.⛹🏾♂️🐄👨🏾🌾🥐🥤💙🇦🇩
One thing this program failed to cove was cow's strong attraction to music. No matter if the instrument was guitar, flute, bagpipes, or even piano (yes somebody even set up a piano in the corner of a field), the cows would always gather closely and listen carefully, rhey'd stop eating and would remain still while the music was being performed.
There's some YT videos showing this too.. very amazing. Music appreciation generally equates to higher intelligence, so It says something that cows behave that way...
My favorite is the guy in Oregon who played his saxophone for some cows. You can see one far away starts coming over right away as soon as she heard the first note. ua-cam.com/video/hWjtiB0Jkow/v-deo.html
Also, not music, but similar - baby elephant Navann "performing" for a herd of cows who gather around to watch. They are at Thailand's Elephant Nature Park, a rescue sanctuary. ua-cam.com/video/pDmEBNPZ5wE/v-deo.html
Bunnies are the same, music or even their person singing and they gather around and watch/listen intently, so very adorable.
I love whoever is responsible for subtitles on this one.
"Judy breeze cattle this traditional way service isn't going to hurt to study their behavior as the intracellular caterpillar the cows."
Hahahaha is it automatic??
Vergard V - It is indeed sad for the "Disabled Hearing Impaired" who depend on the Caption to read or learn. Very sad indeed! ❤
aka scottish
Thinking the same way. English is not my first language and subtitles are very helpful indeed 😅🤣😁
Cows have friends. They wait for each other at gates, graze together, and sadly, mourn when one or the is gone. They're afraid of the dark, doing much better physically and give a good 10% more milk if there is a light on in the barn overnight. Throw in music - and don't laugh - they like Mozart, and the milk production goes up even higher. Stroppy cows are better behaved too, with lights and music.
i really love cows, their big sweet eyes, with huge eyelashes, floppy ears, wet doggy nose
They make me hard
MeriKa Tools this took a bad turn
I love them as animals as hamburgers and milk
When we brought in a heifer before her first calf she had to learn which stall was hers. We'd bring the herd in and they'd walk in choosing their stall with never a mistake. Then in came the heifer and we'd coax her into her stall. After a couple days of mistakes she'd know her stall for the rest of her life.
Each pair of cows had their own drinking cup which would hold a couple quarts of water. It had a paddle in it when pushed the water would run filling the cup until the cow was done. A new heifer would have to be shown how to get water. A couple days of pushing the paddle for her she'd understand how to get water. It helped that the other cow would push for water so the hiefer would know it came out but hadn't gotten the mechanics down.
In the spring when the cows went out day and night the drinking cups would all be tied up because the got their water at one of the water tanks outside. The cows would fuss with the cups off and on for a day or two until they'd ignore the cups. Then when the weather would get cold and the cows stayed in the cups would be used again. The cows that had used their cups the previous winter knew how to get water with no training at all.
Anyone who thinks cows aren't smart are just ignorant. But I love cows so take that into account.
Thanks Ted. You restore hope
@@zimrianispresent8123 how does that comment restore hope?? Sounds like he still abused the cows and sent them to slaughter.
Knowing all this how can you continue to abuse their entire life for profit? How did you feel when you sent them to slaughter? As intelligent as they are do you have any idea exactly how much they suffer when they get to have their heads chopped off? I finally stopped eating all animal products because I simply cannot be a part of this horror show. Raising animals for consumption is also the most resource intensive earth destroying way to get food. We have zero need to abuse cows this way for food.
@@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 Thanks for stating the Truth. And does he take away the calves from the Mothers for slaughter or starvation until slaughter to be used as veal? Torture for the Mom, torture for the babe. And did you notice how that fake farmer bitch cried at having to kill that poor young steer, just because he was SLIGHTLY LAME? Then sent him off for murder. Could you not provide a place for these poor animals to retire? I mean put the poor guy out to pasture, let him live off grass & a bit of hay, let him sleep outside if you don't want to provide an indoor place. After serving you all their lives, can't they get their few last years to live until natural death? They aren't humans who live to 80, they live maybe 15 years. Surely you could put them to pasture a few years & let them live? But no, these farmers, like most people, worship money. All for them, nothing for the animals. Keep posting like this, bust these bastards chops, show them there are people out there who have hearts & intelligence. Humans are deplorable the way they treat other animals, animals are Sacred. They don't sin, as do humans. Fukk humans - mostly Patriarchs & their systems, agendas & POV'S. Bring back Matriarchy.
@@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 there have been studies on cow stress at slaughter . They design the pens and slaughter area with that in mind. If the animal is killed kosher, a surgically sharp blade is used so that the animal loses consciousness immediately, and there is little pain ..... or none.....because of the sharpness and method. Animals killed with the pressure gun have more physiological stress and it affects the meat. People are omnivores. So are chimps and monkeys. So are birds. People have bigger brains who est complete protien. If you jsd yo be vegan in the natural world you would die young and underdeveloped with malnutrition . Veganism only works in a modern world with manufactured nutritional supplements that do not occur naturally
I had a pet cow named Shoe. He was our only cow. He was friends with the dogs, and the sheep and goats. And my horse, Bull.
Considering giving up my job to live in a field amongst the cows.... I live cows; such peaceful, lovely creatures! Underestimated & underrated--- I would love to frollic among them!
Please don't raise them in a farm where you simply bring them up to send them to slaughter - rescue victims from this horrible industry that treats wonderful animals like they are commodities. RESCUE THEM and love them all their natural lives LIKE DOGS AND CATS - they are no different from our pets that we love.
I couldn't imagine eating meat. Killing a cow at 1 year old when they could live for 20 seems awful.
Eldritch Postman Same I ate meat and stuff for a while and now I eat almost none
The Captions here read "Cows have a sexual relationship" with humans rather than "...a special relationship...". Lord help us! Thanks! ❤
So sad....after being exploited and basically supporting the ppl they deserve a retirement, not just shipped off for death. People suck!
Bell schmell, that was proven 1000's of times a day in the old days when small dairy herds returned from pasture to barn when called in order to get their scoop of grain..for you city slickers the grain mixture is a treat for the cows....
now they force feed them to make them weigh more the dairy market is all smoke and mirrors.
The difference is that when the cows were called for food, they associated SOMEONE ELSE doing something that brought them food. In this experiment, they are trying to see if the cows will take the initiative to 'do something' that will cause more food to come. They are not 'calling' the cows with a bell instead of a voice, but leaving a device in their environment and then trying to make the cow understand that if the cow just wanders by and rings the bell, food will come - any time, based on THEIR initiative, not the initiative of a human being calling them at set times of day.
@@punker4Realummm dairy cows aren't sold by weight.
Not just dumb farm animals, as I've heard from numerous farmers or at least farmer's children. Absolutely wonderful insight that will surely not go unnoticed by the agricultural science community. Thanks much for sharing. Your simple yet sincere dealings with people & the animals you study is remarkable; I found it interesting that I would suddenly tear up and become so affected by what you've discovered.
Litchin knew what was going on there. That’s why she didn’t like that woman...
She knew that that woman was competition to her preferred male. She was jealous of the wife.
Look how the woman allowed the bull to be taken to slaughter, just because he had a minor limp. Why not just put him out to pasture? Leave him be? She sold his life for 1 thousand pounds it says. Fukk the money. Is she broke? And when Lichen died suddenly, it could have been of a broken heart over the bull. I could not look at thie movie any more after the bull was taken away to me, all those 'intelligence' tests were NONSENSE.
We need a private life of goats 🐐
Luke Shaffer Yes. I would watch that.
I don't think that it would have broke the bank of this farm to have retired that friendly, trusting , loyal bull ! My Uncle had a bull who became lame, just like veebee , but my Uncle had had him for 7yrs and he had earned his RETIREMENT in my Uncle's eyes. BIG BILL is still a trusting, loyal old boy and enjoys his days grazing and watching all the comings and goings on the farm. Poor Veebee.😥
such innocence, humility and trust exquisitely visible in these beautiful partners of our lives. we owe them in multitude of ways; milking, meat, breeding, giving a beautiful company etc.
Great documentary, thanks for sharin' this video!
They are really nice and smart animals.
@8:29 - On another documentary, a man who raises an ancient breed of cattle said that the older, less modified breeds are much smarter and the more common ones that have been domesticated were "dumbed down" as they were selected for certain traits.
Absolutely tue. And believe me, no one wants a really intelligent cow. They're trouble.
The old fashion cow drawings are just epic. Tiny head and all body
"WHO'S IN CONTROL, JIMMY?"
(Okay but seriously, I love that lady and want her to teach me her ways)
The death of VeeBee was horrible. I hated how that guy was encouraging her and telling her it was the right thing to do etc. Did she get a vet in to see if the cow could be helped? She didn't have to send VeeBee to slaughter! But I guess she had the 1,000 dollar signs in her eyes. It was at that point of this documentary that I started hoping all the cows would turn on them both and carry out a stampeding rampage.
news flash,, all her cows and bulls will be slaughtered for money, because,,, she raises cattle. Cattle means meat. They will be consumed. It's her livlihood. What you saw here was an exceptionally good farm, with space, free range pasture, and much longer lives than usual...If you want to get snitty about the commerical food industry,, and there is plenty thats wrong with it,, just start off by understanding that what you just saw , Is WAY Above average for the industry. Way. 98% of males are slaughtered shortly after birth, they don't get years, they get days.
otherwiseoutside well I'm glad I'm vegetarian and dairy free! Dairy industry's just sick really. Coconut yoghurt and almond milk are awesome!
"She had the 1000 dollar signs in her eyes"? Really? Like 1000 dollars is an insane amount of money haha. She did what needed to be done for the farm. Just keeping a bull that doesn't produce offspring costs loads of money that you don't get back. If she kept him she probably would've had to send more of her cows to slaughter to keep up the farm
Me too, he dismissed her feelings and sugarcoated the truth with his emotionally retarded responses. That poor bull
I love cows.
I also eat them.
Before being Vegan: there is no discrepancy
After being Vegan: what the hell man, don't kill and eat someone you feel love towards to, that's insane
absolutely. the cognitive disconnect creates the worst and the ugliest cacophony.
snowflake . .
@@Headwind-1 I'm sorry, snowflake? 🙂
Excellent, Both my mother and fathers parents were involved in agriculture. My fathers lived in the Isle of Skye. My cousin still keeps cattle there. My mothers parents farmed above Loch Ness, where my uncle still runs it with the help of his family. The cattle are anything but stupid. Well done for a very informative programme.Highly appreciated.
What excellent husbandry these small farms have, we need more farms like this in the USA to look after their animals like our friends across the pond.
I can't believe that they are discussing the tenderness while eating a cow, and talking about the cows intelligence and unique personalities. Disconnect or what???
ABSOLUTELY total disconnection - if they were dogs would they be discussing them this way????? Oh, the dachshounds are so sweet and intelligent and their tiny legs are sooo scrumptious with your sunday omelette ... PEOPLE ARE SICK SICK SICK and they don't even realize how sick they are when the evil is built into the culture
I have found that they are extremely curious animals. And quiet, can sneak up on you !
Cows are awesome!! God bless them!! I love the last part where one cow follows him and the rest does the same!!
Okay, when Lichen died, why was my first thought that the farmer lady killed her?
Gabe Hernandez haha! cold blooded lady!
Gabe Hernandez
That was the first thing I saw while watching that I thought to look at the comments about.
Crazy cow lady for sure. She definitely offed that cow.
Gabe Hernandez She did it no doubt..it was the cow or her tho..no jury would convict her..
FARMERS IN IT FOR THE MONEY , THEY NOT ANIMAL LOVERS BREADING ANIMALS FOR FOOD ,
That's the downside of farming animals. There's no satisfaction to be had in offing the nasty ones, since the whole point of the whole operation is eventually offing every single one of them.
The cow birth and bonding are beautiful! Also loved sharing in the pregnant cow's ultrasound.
Sadly, the calves are usually torn away from the mother way before weaning, so humans can extract more milk and more profit from the cow. This is a meat farm, so perhaps they don't exploit the cows for milk and create great distress in the cows by removing the calves unnaturally early.
The emotional world of the farm animal is a great video.
This is why we bred cattle, for milk, leather and meat, they are fulfilling their born destiny to provide for us. Thank you cows, you are useful and delicious. A farm like this should be a cows dream!!
Does anyone ever stop for a bit to play some music for the cows on the farm fields? I'm curious how many do that themselves, I put on some Blue Suede Shoes and it looked cute the way they all just waddled over.
No wonder my father was such a cow w hisperer. He understood cows..the flight zone and all. I wish he could have explained this to me as a child. I was responsible for bringing the cows from pasture to barn for milking. What it taught me was how to run...really fast and to jump or dive through fencing.lol
They're awesome! Like some weird cross between a cat and a dog.
Cows have the most beautiful breath, it smells so sweet
those cows looked scared of the guy. he looked a bit scared too at 2:26.
I have ridden horses for about 15 years plus, but the bovine is still the KING/ QUEEN of domesticated animals.
LOVED this video. THANK YOU !!
They are so cute.
A very nice fairy tale of how the average cow wanders in pastures in the English countryside and the farmer knows them all by name. This is Disney. The real thing well.
Step 1: Beautiful happy cows on a field. Step 2: Roast beef. Nothing happens in between. Any questions?
Yes you didn't say the part where they are killed and desperately trying to escape the slaughterhouse and of course the horrible drive to the slaughterhouse
@@thejack9178 Exactly why we all need to STOP PUTTING these beautiful animals' tortured remnants inside our stomach - it's SICK SICK SICK AND TOTALLY UNNECESSARY AND HARMFUL addiction as a society.
My thoughts exactly. Humans are completely desensitized and unable to compute that that their actions are callous
There is exactly 8 more seconds of knowledge about cows then chickens
"Are cows stupide?! I think not!"
Also: "We trained cow to ring bell for food, took a week"
As humans need to give huge credit in the science department to mice and chimpanzees... In economics, infrastructure, agriculture, and transportation we need to give cows credit! Just think about it; they give us meat, milk, butter, cheese, fertilizer, skin ( used in the car and aviation industry), from early days we get bones from them that we could use as a tool or weapon. I admire cows!
They don't 'give' us anything - we take it! I feel sorry for cows. I don't admire them for their wonderful 'gifts' since we basically destroy their natural instincts and ultimately kill them to extract those 'gifts.' Giving cows credit? I call bullshit. That's kindergarten thinking ('Our Friend the Cow' and all the 'gifts' we 'get' from the nice cows). Give 'credit' to human beings figuring out how to utterly exploit an animal to the point that not a single bit of that animal is not sacrificed for human consumption or convenience. They are pure animal sacrifices by humans, just no longer burnt up as an offering to the gods - apart from the gods of consumerism and materialism.
Industrial dairy farming, what a miserable existence for the cows. I’m 64, and it’s a far cry from the dairy cows my Grandma had, who lived for 15 years or so. Today’s dairy cows, depleted, and sent off to the knackers by five years.
Oops I thought this was a documentary about the Kardashians.
no, we are looking at intelligent life here!
***** that wasn't a pun, not even close. i don't think you know what pun means.
zaitesushion please don't insult the cows! They're much smarter. :-)
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@@RahilSethiHaha yeah I was going to say that's an insult to the cows.
I love this mini series !!! What a treat !
great documentaries to watch while on quarantine.
The food test works on fish two. I use pincers and make a clicking sound in the water when I'm going to feed them and they come out from hiding. If I don't do it they don't come out because they're easily spooked
Too*
Love this documentary.
This is why I want miniature cows.
may all beings and creatures be free from enmity and danger,
may all beings and creatures be free from mental suffering,
may all beings and creatures be free from physical suffering,
may all beings and creatures be free from suffering,
may all beings and creatures protect themselves,
may all beings and creatures be able to take care of themselves peacefully.
source: www.wildmind.org/mantras/figures/sabbesatta
don't be so silly. . .
The duff subtitles are hilarious!!
love the video and the captions are hilarious!
It's so sad: slaughtered (killed) after 3 years of milk production when they would live longer, and the milk is designed not for humans but for calves. Then there's a male who "can't earn his keep." Why should he? Just let him live. The "commercial value" isn't cows' reason for existing.
@Truelove shut them down then 👍
@@thejack9178 how do u eat then? And dont say plants because they need the manure to fertilise the soil.
Well, IMO other cows just thought, that if the plastic sheet was taken off, the whole thing doesn't work
My grandma had a cow that could open the barn's door if she wasn't satisfied with the ration she was given and supplement hay in her own
Depending on the type of door she used horns or tongue
wow!!..i wish i could live in Britain!!!!!...just gorgeous!!!! great country people too!!!!
So glad my children and I are meat and dairy free. I love cows they are such sweet animals:)
you're awesome.
going vegan is what makes people commit suicide.
you probably wouldn't know what a cow is if it weren't for this domestication
You and your children should work as hardcore soldiers for PETA and Greenpeace for free.
Will continue with dairy products. Avoid beef. Even if eating beef it is repugnant to eat a one year old.
Hi,
And thanks for such a wonderful video showing some great ideas about cows and have they haven’t they got brains.
Reference the bull who went lame, that might be obvious to a farmer, but not to me. Was there nothing to be done to treat the lameness, I mean ever?
A breeding bull on a commercial farm is not a pet. If a persistently lame bull can't breed and starts losing money, no sane farmer can afford to pour more money into treating ongoing lameness on the off-chance it might get better. All the while it's not able to breed cows, no guarantee it will ever breed cows again, and it's costing more and more to feed and house. Cattle on a beef farm must bring in more money than they cost to keep. Otherwise the farmer must cut their losses, slaughter, and recycle the money earned from the beef back into buying a more productive breeding animal to replace the one lost. Being soft-hearted and treating livestock like pets will end up making the farmer homeless.
It took 8000 years to breed out Aurocs who weren't very interested in being domesticated.
The subtitles are a riot. Whoever did them has a hearing problem.
That lady gave that cow the evil eye !! then she died ! the cow no the lady ! lol !
THE BOTTOM LINE IS... ANY LIVE CREATURE THAT HAYS EYES, CAN MAKE A DECISION & T H A T IS A CONSTRUCT OF INTELLIGENCE... PERIOD
@ 55:00 FANTASTIC.. THANK YOU FOR SHARING
The cows are smarter and nicer than the humans in this programme. Go cows !
Litchen is funny and sassy, but that seriously dangerous if she is that aggressive. Cows in fight or fear kinda thrown them in a direction and you best not be in the way. I’ve had cows all my life and I’ve been fortunate enough to have no aggressive cattle, males or females. Now, the more I hear about other people’s experience I don’t think that’s too common.
What a great herd!
Ha ha Cows!!! There cute!
I liked this very much and could have watched 3 more hr. of this. Thanks and have a nice day.
Beautiful animals
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They say MY Cows arent Smart."
The closed captioning on this is so far off, it is hilarious! Who knew a documentary could be so funny?
What's strange about this experiment is these people's thoughts about cows. My grandfather had a cattle ranch and as a kid, I would play around them. I grew up believing cows to be thinking animals and nothing these people did to prove it surprised me. My girlfriend also grew up around cattle and saw them as I did. Over the years as adults push their narratives concerning not only cattle but animals, in general, we came to accept some of their ideas, sort of. However, as I grew into my individual self, at around 50, I reverted back to my childhood beliefs. My father who was then 75 began to see things as I did and became kinder and more in tune with animals in general. He stopped killing them.
1:15 in... they aren’t that friendly are they? Ummmm they are friendly when not stressed and scared.
no, most cows aren't friendly, especially if they aren't handled much.
I am sure 1000 pounds is much more important than any bond or commitment to another being. She feels as if it is a betrayal because it is.
No worries society does the same thing to other aging humans
Wonderful, wonderful. Very appreciated ^&^
32:10 is UNKLE - Nocturnal, if someone was wondering.
The cow at 25:48 is like "oh no, here we go again". xD
Next crime watch - a story of rural vendetta. After she poisoned her husband's favourite cow, and he injured her favourite bull in revenge, leading to it being slaughtered, they finally went for one another. Who will survive?
Ever here of a cowbell? Well that's the whole reason...lunch time cows.
Umm guys possible Mandela effect here at 13:37 didn’t Pavlow use a *bell* to teach his dogs to salivate, not a light bulb?? Literally it’s always been a bell when did this super famous experiment use a light bulb?
TheMarioMen1 I remember a bell too.
Thanks for uploading. 👍
Cognitive dissonance makes it easy to say an animal is an individual, has a personality, can like or dislike others, is intelligent, etc., but then turn around and kill and eat it. Truly sick. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
Not everyone gets cognitive dissonance over eating meat. It's perfectly natural, normal, and healthy to participate in a food chain. Most people do not believe it is immoral and therefore their actions are not against their beliefs - no hypocrisy, no cognitive dissonance.
that's for sure
OMG, they eat cows on a cow farm! Wow. Seriously guys, these are cow-farmers and they HAVE to earn money and that's just how they do. Seriously, I love cows and haven't ate beef for a long time, but being angry at a cow armer for killing his animals is stupid. They are farmers and that's just what they do for a living.
+HellmotherEva Also they are alive because of that farmer. I would say its better to live few happy years on green pasture than never been born.
The woman with the glasses is not getting away from anything.
@6:43 - "Male cows?" - a cow is an adult female beef animal that has had a calf and can produce milk. There is no such thing as a "male cow."
A heifer is a female beef animal that has never had a calf. A bull is a mature male beef animal. A steer is a castrated male beef animal. Most of the beef that is consumed is from steers, but it can also be from a heifer or a cow.
When we were little we'd fight over which cow belonged to who. My brother would decide which cow was his cow and my sister the same. Then we'd boost each other on top while they were in the barn and sit and scratch and rub them. Then when it was time to let them out Dad would open the stanchions and they'd all head outside to eat some more. Dairy cows eat, drink water, eat, lay down or stand around chewing cut, eat some more get milked while eating then go outside lay down chew cud then do it all over again. All they do is eat. They have to eat and drink a lot to produce milk.
So the cows would go out and we'd ride them out into the pasture. If they decided to lay down we'd lie down with them draped over the top.
The reason they were so tame was due to handling them every day since they were born being fed milk twice a day as calves. Every calf was trained to lead from day one so when they got older and we'd decide to show them at the county fairs or state fairs there was no trouble with training.
We learned from day one that no matter if the cow was your cow, my cow or her cow if the cow couldn't stay they went to the either the butcher or the stock yards. We'd be sad but we always knew there was always another coming along to fill its place.
+Ted Nelson How can you not understand how psychopathic that sounds? To measure a sentient beings value in its utility to humans? All sentient beings value their lives. That's what gives them moral value. Nothing else. Ted, imagine that an alien species arrived on earth and decided to use humans in the way that we use animals. They own us as property. They mutilate us. They impregnate us. They take babies from mothers. They send us to slaughter once we stop making money. Do you think that those aliens were acting in a morally good way? Do you really not believe that it would be morally better if they didn't do that? If, rather than raising and killing humans, they ate plants. Wouldn't that be a better world? If so, then why not in this case? How are we any different to that alien species?
The Bible states, Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them HAVE DOMINION over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and OVER THE CATTLE, and over all the Earth ...." Be kind, but keep on ranching!
The fact that the cow hears the bell and comes for food is no different from the cow hearing the farmer coming out with the bucket or seeing the bucket. It's just a simple association with food and the person calling 'hey cows, come for food!' or banging on a bucket of food or whatever. Simple association. Nothing to get excited about because all animals do that: they associate what they see or hear with food. Duh. The problem is, has the cow even realized that she's the one ringing the bell? They accidentally bump into the bell when they are eating the food. They don't 'know' that they are hitting something with their noses that makes the bell ring. So it's a straightforward association: they don't 'make' the farmer come banging a bucket and shouting, 'Here, cows!' and they don't 'make' the bell ring (as far as they know). The problem is really, 'Do cows take the initiative to DO SOMETHING that will bring food?' For example, do they bellow for food when they are hungry, and then associate their own bellowing with the farmer coming with food? If they do something like that - if bellowing is not just an instinctive noise of distress, not associated with making anything 'happen' as a result - then the cow should not be able to learn to 'do something' - like ringing a bell - to make food happen.
Those look like Charolais. Are they? I believe Charolais are beef cattle. After hearing the name Blonde d'Aquitaine cattle I looked it up. They do look very much like Charolais and both originated in France I believe. When I was a young man I worked on a dairy off and on for eight years where our main cows were Holstein with a few Jersey and Guernsey added in for a better butter fat content. All the cows had personalities which I could associate with girls I knew in high school. Some are dumb as rocks while others are smart as a whip, not that I knew any girls who were dumb as rocks.
Violet is politicking!
1:08 Didn't I see this on "When Good Cows Go Bad"?
who's translating?? it's hilarious!
DARK HORSE, I know! I particularly enjoyed the translation at 41:10. It says "you're gay without being arrested". LMAO!!!
So she gets to know all these cows, gives them names, talks about how smart and self-aware they are, how they have feelings and each have an individual personality... and then send them off to be violently killed? There's something wrong with you if you can do that.
Don't be a ninny. Just because cattle are headed for McDonald's doesn't mean this lady can't give them a good quality of life while they are on her farm. It's better than being indifferent to them and their needs.
It's better that someone lives a nice life before being violently killed than living a horrible life before being violently killed. That much is true. But it's still terrible. That's why we put murderers in jail, not just the murderers who first torture their victims.
We need them for food, so why not take the best care of them since they will someday feed many people. They are slaughtered quickly, not violently hacked alive...
catman529outdoors
We *don't* need them for food. The book The China Study (based on the biggest study ever done on health+diet) shows being vegan (if done right) is healthier. Veganism can provide enough protein/energy for a very active lifestyle, as the vegan professional athletes prove. See the website www . greatveganathletes . com
STFU lozar!!!
This guy needs a private life. Holy shit.