What Caused a Mass Firing at Your Job?

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  • Опубліковано 19 вер 2024

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  • @666Vampirefromhell
    @666Vampirefromhell 3 роки тому +214

    "If you would not do this job for free then quit."
    That one sentence earns every company that uses it the Darwin Award. Nobody works for free, whether they like the job or not.
    I can guarantee, if you stop paying workers, they stop working.

    • @kenopsia9013
      @kenopsia9013 2 роки тому +2

      capitalism sucks

    • @ELeeHamm
      @ELeeHamm 2 роки тому +6

      They'll say shit like this and then get mad when no one wants to work for them. 🙄

  • @TheRhetoricGamer
    @TheRhetoricGamer 4 роки тому +384

    "I'll be a team player. For a team that isn't going to screw me over."
    Job loyalty is a two-way street.

    • @laszlokocsi1825
      @laszlokocsi1825 4 роки тому +3

      Yes but actually no

    • @LucaxCorp
      @LucaxCorp 3 роки тому +14

      @@laszlokocsi1825 - Yes and entirely yes.

    • @arianebolt1575
      @arianebolt1575 3 роки тому +5

      It's *supposed* to be. Unfortunately...

    • @wangie51
      @wangie51 3 роки тому +6

      Don't Care about me? Well, idc about you! Bye! 😂

  • @Chinothebad
    @Chinothebad 3 роки тому +90

    That bookstore firing really grinds the gears. Firing everyone for working off the clock to fix up a store while telling the former manager "I don't care, get it cleaned" just so the DM can get his friends to work there.

    • @TheJumpManiac
      @TheJumpManiac 2 роки тому +15

      That entire story was a massive lawsuit as well tbh. The entire time I was sitting there thinking "this guy better have sued their asses off", because that entire situation was illegal as hell from the forced, unpaid hours, to the unlawful firing with the DM's lies about having told them to work off the clock.

    • @HappilyHomicidalHooligan
      @HappilyHomicidalHooligan 2 роки тому +5

      @@TheJumpManiac I'd have looked the DM in the eyes and said: "You want me and all the other store employees to work off the clock in order to get this store cleaned up in an otherwise impossible time frame? OK, we'll be happy to do that the moment you put that in writing, until then, however, you need to give us a realistic time frame to clean up the store"...
      If he's stupid enough to put it in writing, I'd immediately send a copy of it to both Corporate HR AND the State Department of Labor...Let them both deal with the Legal Fallout when the DoL lands on them like a Rogue Nuke...

    • @joncarr1200
      @joncarr1200 2 роки тому +6

      @@TheJumpManiac I hope they did sue the crap out of that guy. I hope he's still making payments on everything.

  • @pixsagmoonbluntsisters9928
    @pixsagmoonbluntsisters9928 4 роки тому +186

    Someone we trusted for a long time was caught in the CCTV camera that she had been stealing the payments of people living in the apartment we are working for. It explains why suddenly she had always have new sets of clothes, one brand new car, she started taking us out in luxirious restaurant.... and got herself very addicted in gambling as well. And why we thought people had not been paying the right amount of money, that got a lot of then into trouble, 2 families were already asked to leave because of it.

    • @lucyheartfilia5468
      @lucyheartfilia5468 4 роки тому +12

      What happened to the 2 family's

    • @kyle18934
      @kyle18934 4 роки тому +7

      Oof that's horrible, did they get their money back?

    • @ratoim
      @ratoim 4 роки тому +17

      Of all the gross incompetence by Accounts Receivable... The smallest store can give receipts for trivial cash purchases, did they have nothing set up to mark incoming payments? And they already kicked out two families before they actually investigated the matter?! Anyone that had a hand in setting up this system should have been fired as well.

    • @wrije
      @wrije 4 роки тому +16

      ratoim Not only fired, but had a massive ass lawsuit filed against both them and the company.

  • @airshow406
    @airshow406 4 роки тому +200

    It amazes me the number of bosses out there that somehow think paying your employees less will motivate them.

    • @memeking7273
      @memeking7273 3 роки тому +4

      Ur welcome to attempt to guess how there are still existing

    • @kaypounds9543
      @kaypounds9543 3 роки тому +7

      Well you get what you pay for. Those who pay crap and treat employees like garbage will get employees who do the literal least.
      I refuse. That's why I quit Golden Corral after 4-5 months, faking having another job just to go.

    • @dragonlord1689
      @dragonlord1689 3 роки тому +10

      The beatings will be mandatory until morale improves.

    • @robrockstar9648
      @robrockstar9648 2 роки тому +2

      It will motivate them to get a different job

    • @Davtwan
      @Davtwan Рік тому

      @@memeking7273 - Trapping people, attitude adjustments, influencing worker’s rights to be hidden, and monopolies on an area’s employment. They remove the choices, so they can thrive for a long time.

  • @beagleissleeping5359
    @beagleissleeping5359 3 роки тому +40

    Not a mass firing but a Jimmy Fallon hashtag titled how I quit. "Asked my boss for a weekend off to look at colleges. Was told you need to decide: college or Wendy's."
    Hmmm. Tough choice.

  • @defuncttoad9552
    @defuncttoad9552 4 роки тому +325

    The manager and clerks were all in the back smoking pot no one up front when the Owner was making rounds. Fired all on the spot.

    • @KnakuanaRka
      @KnakuanaRka 3 роки тому +32

      Morons. At least take turns getting high!

    • @kauswekazilimani3736
      @kauswekazilimani3736 3 роки тому +12

      @@KnakuanaRka Rookie mistakes i tell ya.

    • @hippiemoses336
      @hippiemoses336 3 роки тому +6

      Lol, was this Domino's?

    • @kaypounds9543
      @kaypounds9543 3 роки тому +8

      A couple years ago I was put on mornings a lot (hate it because I'm a night owl) and if our district manager came in it would typically be in the morning. The back room morning crew typically did their jobs but they would be on their phones listening to music too or talking to somebody. I was up front when the district manager popped in. I greeted him and made my way to the back (he usually takes a minute to check how the front is) and warned the rest of the crew the big boss was there. Everybody went to act more natural and I scored points for looking out for my co-workers.

    • @defuncttoad9552
      @defuncttoad9552 3 роки тому

      @@hippiemoses336 subway lol

  • @mentallydisturbedscience8900
    @mentallydisturbedscience8900 3 роки тому +22

    The tuscan villa story reminded me of this bankruptcy attorney I used to work for. This guy worked really long hours and volunteered regularly in the community. He also drove luxury cars, owned a multi-million dollar home, and vacationed with his entire extended family every 2 months. He was constantly complaining to his staff that the company wasn't bringing in enough money, and he would always find a staff member to blame the lack of income on. He never considered that maybe if he didn't blow through the company money like a kid with a hole in his pocket, that he might not be in such a financial bind. It was only a matter of time before I became the scapegoat for the company going under (I was in charge of setting appointments, and if a potential client skipped his consultation, that was my fault for not being convincing enough). I should have let him fire me, but I quit instead. I don't tolerate BS very well. The company has been out of business for years now. I'm not sorry.

  • @ADekuKid
    @ADekuKid 3 роки тому +21

    A manager at a movie theater I worked at had transferred from out of state. He told me that another theater in his old state had been completely cleared out and rehired from the GM all the way down to the ushers and night janitors. They had to close the theater for two weeks to retain an entire staff. Apparently, an older woman had gone to the family restroom after seeing a movie and had died with the door locked. And she wasn’t discovered until some 3 weeks later when guests were complaining about the smell in the nearest auditorium. I asked the GM and he said that it had happened but that they weren’t supposed to talk about it.
    That information made some company policies that seemed like overkill to me become completely understandable.

  • @zombiegirlfanter5569
    @zombiegirlfanter5569 4 роки тому +35

    I worked in a warehouse that didnt want to pay us employees our overtime. So bout 50 of us walked. Law suit shortly filed afterward.they owed us alot

  • @wulffunes4067
    @wulffunes4067 4 роки тому +22

    I worked at a job for about a year originally as a stocker, but ended up doing 4 different jobs including being an acting manager. When my hours started to dwindle and we were down to just 6 workers for 2nd-shift, i asked my manager if he could switch some from the 1st-shift since they had a 15 person crew and 3 co-managers, he told me no that if I can't do my job right with the people I had then I should just quit. And that's exactly what I did i went to my coworkers when my next shift started and told them I'm quitting on the spot and explained why, they told me that they already had jobs available elsewhere and were waiting to see if I quit first since they didn't want to leave me there alone, so I just locked up, called one of the co-manegers that i was cool with what i did and where i left the keys and left to go have drinks with friends.

    • @josephinejekyl5848
      @josephinejekyl5848 2 роки тому

      I want to hear more about what happened next when everyone quit. how much of an inconvenience did it cause? I like comeuppance stories

  • @jonathanryan2915
    @jonathanryan2915 4 роки тому +55

    Why do so many employers think people would actually like said employment to the point that they would work for free with no compensation or enough sleep to function properly?

    • @chrissmith3587
      @chrissmith3587 4 роки тому +14

      Jonathan Ryan narcissism

    • @kauswekazilimani3736
      @kauswekazilimani3736 3 роки тому +4

      They're probably poor and need the job. Tighter grip on the nuts gives them more leeway for nonsense.

    • @jonathanryan2915
      @jonathanryan2915 3 роки тому

      @@chrissmith3587 8 months ago? Definitely not getting notifications on my comments getting comments lately

    • @jonathanryan2915
      @jonathanryan2915 3 роки тому +4

      @@kauswekazilimani3736 exactly, but the narrative we're given is that you should be a good old fashioned "company man" so that you will be rewarded for your sacrifice

    • @howdelydoo
      @howdelydoo 3 роки тому +4

      They find desperate people and let them know they're expendable. It's rare to find a company that truly shows their appreciation toward their employees

  • @princessmarlena1359
    @princessmarlena1359 3 роки тому +84

    They essentially “merged” two stores, and made redundant all of the better employees (myself included), yet kept all of the lazy, belligerent, incompetent, perverted employees. Why were they kept? They had friends and/or family in corporate.

  • @mikkovaltonen3564
    @mikkovaltonen3564 3 роки тому +78

    I have a hunch that the guy who pulled the April Fools prank on the train company got fired into oblivion :D

    • @anonmouse15
      @anonmouse15 3 роки тому +10

      He's incompetent, so he probably got promoted instead.

    • @golden_midas
      @golden_midas 2 роки тому +1

      Would be even funnier if he wasn't even management just another driver

  • @Frame_Late
    @Frame_Late 4 роки тому +32

    We have an absolute ding for a manager. Running store into the ground. High turnover rate. Some people leaving after two weeks. Everyone, including assistant and specialty managers hate his guts.
    Just put in my two weeks.

  • @devinwilkerson5504
    @devinwilkerson5504 4 роки тому +214

    Some of these stories should have ended with " then the building mysteriously burned down."

    • @Megaredronin
      @Megaredronin 4 роки тому +2

      ikr? GOD!! :(

    • @RipRLeeErmey
      @RipRLeeErmey 4 роки тому +8

      Well it's actually a good thing because arson isn't a valid method of solving your problems, and the only people it would hurt would be the employees.
      The employer would just get their insurance deposit back for their location of business, the arsonist would be behind bars or constantly on the run from the law, and dozens/hundreds of people would be out of a job because someone had to be a disgruntled, vindictive asshole.

    • @devinwilkerson5504
      @devinwilkerson5504 4 роки тому +8

      @@RipRLeeErmey It was a joke. I would never encourage anyone to actually burn down their former place of work.

    • @RipRLeeErmey
      @RipRLeeErmey 4 роки тому +3

      @@devinwilkerson5504 Good. Crime never pays.

    • @Rapscallion2009
      @Rapscallion2009 4 роки тому +4

      What we call "the Milton Waddams solution'.
      I happens, I think. But it's totally unfair on the other employees who'll now be out of a job.

  • @beagleissleeping5359
    @beagleissleeping5359 3 роки тому +12

    Food factory. Machine that requires checking the filter at specific times to make sure no forgien substances are in the product. Not only had said filter been removed because the machine produced faster without it, no one was doing the checks. That way they didn't have any downtime on the machine and their runtime numbers were great. Unbeknownst to the machine operators, the computer WAS keeping track of if and when the machine was on or off. Several people on all 3 shifts got fired for 1) falsifying USDA paperwork and 2) something forgien got into the product and, because there was that missing filter, we had to trash about $30k of product. Fun times.

  • @destroyerinazuma96
    @destroyerinazuma96 3 роки тому +9

    Back in the day there was a story about interns fired over a petition. They saw a manager get away with breaking the dress code/company policy, and instead of talking things over and check what's up they drafted and signed a petition then sent it to the top execs. All were fired except one intern who had no clue about the whole thing and obviously didn't sign. Btw the manager who wasn't following the dress code had some medical condition and had to wear special shoes. Company knew about it and let it slide since he had negotiated it. But the interns got carried away...

  • @TimeSurfer206
    @TimeSurfer206 3 роки тому +8

    "I'm amazed at the number of times I've heard of bosses and owners complaining about a lack of money, then taking a big trip or buying something stupid expensive and showing it off."
    "No, we can't afford Health Care to keep your baby alive, but, LOOK AT THIS NEAT NEW AIRCRAFT CARRIER!"
    And our "Bosses" wonder why we won't go back to our enslavement...
    Make Work Worth Doing Again!
    Oh, and on the subject of "Two Weeks Notice."
    I never give an employer two weeks. And when they bitch, I ask, "When did you ever give an employee two weeks notice?"

  • @victoriabitters1691
    @victoriabitters1691 3 роки тому +7

    My old company screwed me out of my trade papers, I called everyone in the company excluding management ( expect for a couple that weren't wankers and deserved a heads up) and told them I just send 43 pages of notes on health and safety violations and workplace incidents dating back 4 years
    The next week 16 of my coworkers walked out and had better jobs in a week and the company copped something like 250k AUD in fines
    Still haven't got my trade papers though...

  • @annana6098
    @annana6098 4 роки тому +10

    That best buy magazine scam sucks. Customers don't want that shit. Management harasses cashiers to get those subscriptions, or to get credit card applications, and will coach you over and over if they don't get them, and threaten their jobs and cut their hours. And then they're shocked when employees cheat the system.

  • @LemmePSLmyFootUpURazz
    @LemmePSLmyFootUpURazz 3 роки тому +6

    So I work in dining for assisted living, and I am on the verge of quitting because I don't like my 'boss'. He is my third boss since I've been at this place, the other previous 2 boss' we're cool; but this one nitpicks and is cutting budget...meanwhile the higher ups are pushing to add more 'upgrades' to the dining areas while saying we the staff needs to work "more" but rarely gives us the staff higher pay nor any bonuses. I've been there for about a year, my most recent hourly pay promotion....I got a raise of $0.22 to my hourly. I knew that the higher ups would much rather pay me nothing more than what I am earning at minimum wage. I am receiving more work responsibilities outside what I had applied/hired to do. 1 month ago 2 people quit, and at the end of this month, 3 more people will quit. :/
    As for what I was hired to do: part time server (prep floors w/ tablecloths, prep drinks and condiments, make trays, sort meal tickets, bus tables, clean dishes, restock floors, clean and organize floor).
    What I actually do: all above ~plus~ dishwasher duties (mop/scrub floors, wash pots and pans that have built up over 4 hours prior to my shift arrival, sanitize kitchen, take out trash)
    Now the job is actually easy its just they expect me to do both the dishes and my serving job (serve 50+ people) on the same night and finish everything within 4 hours by myself. i'm not paid enough to do 3-people worth job by myself.

    • @amberkat8147
      @amberkat8147 3 роки тому +2

      A friend of mine is a cook in a nursing home and they're having similar problems, losing people so fast it's like they're cursed or something, both the kitchen and the serving people are stressed.

  • @adamryan9185
    @adamryan9185 4 роки тому +9

    My dad was in the Air Force as a mechanic, an entire workshop was sacked because one of the mechanics didn’t something on the wing right and almost got everyone in the plane killed, only the sheer badass awesomeness of the pilot saved them.

    • @johnniesstorytime7837
      @johnniesstorytime7837 3 роки тому

      Oof, that’s scary. My dad was an aviation mechanic in the Air Force. I was a fleet mechanic for about 5 years. We both agreed this was always our nightmare scenario; making a mistake that leads to someone’s death

  • @hotsoup1001
    @hotsoup1001 3 роки тому +12

    "Team work" is what you hear when other people need your help. Silence and indifference is what you get when you ask for help. This is the world we live in.

    • @MrSERGEANT100
      @MrSERGEANT100 6 місяців тому

      Funny how that works. I deal with the same problem.

  • @k.chriscaldwell4141
    @k.chriscaldwell4141 3 роки тому +4

    When I was just out of college and working a dead-end job while I looked for a career job, the company was bought by another company. We employees were told that we would all be laid-off by the old firm and then rehired by the new. Okay. Then the new firm had word sent down that we employees would not necessarily be rehired, but must apply for our old jobs. Not okay.
    All of the employees were on the fence between applying or just taking an unemployment vacation and looking for a better job. The new firm became concerned with the lack of applications coming in - none - and so invited all of us over to headquarters for a motivational meet and greet. Only a few of us went. None of us were impressed what we saw and experienced and informed those that had not gone--the new company's owner and his staff made my skin crawl. More than 75% of left.
    The new firm now had a huge asset with nearly no staff and even fewer experienced employees to run it. Oops.
    If the new firm had just given everyone their jobs instead of playing games, they would have had no problems. Instead the new firm had to turn to expensive and inexperienced temps. Doh!

  • @TigerRose246
    @TigerRose246 3 роки тому +4

    My company had been warning our own security officers to "have an attitude of gratitude". Management been saying this for several years. The officers laughed and didn't change. One day they pink slipped everybody - and I lost 42 friends, some of whom had worked there for decades. Seeing that as a real possibility, several years earlier I'd moved up to a better position making 2-3 times the money with much more responsibility. To this day I still feel like I dodged a major bullet.

  • @bluedragonfly8139
    @bluedragonfly8139 4 роки тому +12

    The one where the boss told their employees to look for new jobs doesn't seem like they're trying to make sure the firing boss' job is easier, more like they're trying to make sure their people have jobs when the inevitable happens.

  • @Poopookachew1
    @Poopookachew1 3 роки тому +5

    _"I guess the outsourcing didn't work out so well."_ Karma, justice, all good things rolled up into one sentence.

  • @mvb88
    @mvb88 3 роки тому +8

    Company was sold. We had pay cuts. Even though promised increased. 9 out of the 11 ppl walked out without notice.

  • @mysteryminx2619
    @mysteryminx2619 4 роки тому +3

    Both Waldenbooks and Borders were purchased by K Mart in 1992 and that's when Borders over-expanded and Walden started to tank. If anyone asked we were supposed to say "We are a specialized subsidiary of the K-Mart group." So, yes, indeed, if you ever worked for Waldens in the 90s or at any Borders, you were working for K-Mart, the entire ship sank at the same time.

    • @sarakrauss2407
      @sarakrauss2407 3 роки тому +3

      And l knew the company was going to tank when they let Amazon fulfill their online orders....because Borders management didn't think "people would want to shop for books online". Oh, and hired corporate staff who knew nothing about bookselling. (Worked for Borders from 1993-2001)

  • @fnafplayer6447
    @fnafplayer6447 4 роки тому +91

    I love this channel but I want to hear the old tracks thought cause they made the video funnier

    • @wwigo
      @wwigo 4 роки тому +4

      old tracks?

    • @fnafplayer6447
      @fnafplayer6447 4 роки тому +4

      @@wwigo like the outro song

  • @horstschlemmer2042
    @horstschlemmer2042 4 роки тому +14

    This was in the newspaper. I was not there:
    VW Factory in Germany. You must know they get a huge amount of money for relatively light work. Maybe the best jobs in Germany in the respected experience levels.
    Well someone found out how to rig the free drinks machine to get unlimited coffee instead of only a few per day. The machine was operated with the ID card so it was completely clear who used it. 50 guys who abused this got fired. Idiots. They saved a few euros per month but risked they’re top jobs.

    • @przemekkozlowski7835
      @przemekkozlowski7835 4 роки тому +2

      Third hand story: A grocery store had a bakery on premises. The bakers would come in at night after the store closed, bake fresh bread and leave before the store staff arrived in the morning. The store realizes that their alcohol inventory is not adding up. They check security camera footage and see that the bakers are taking a break, going into the store and grabbing beer from the cooler. They then put the empty bottles in the deposit bins. The entire bakery staff was fired over this. Store no only lost money because of the theft but could have gotten into serious trouble with the liquor control board over the missing alcohol.

  • @MsSilentsiren
    @MsSilentsiren 4 роки тому +54

    I wiki'd the king of Swaziland. He looks like a damn potato. LOL

    • @baileybrandon
      @baileybrandon 4 роки тому +3

      He does look like an unpeeled potato www.euronews.com/2017/09/27/swazi-king-grabs-14th-wife-after-september-s-reed-dance-ceremony

    • @willhuey4891
      @willhuey4891 4 роки тому +3

      you probably wouldnt say that around him due to him being a dicator hed have you executed on the spot.

    •  4 роки тому +3

      Will Huey Yeah ok I’m sure he’ll enjoy the US coming to take his land for the unprovoked execution of an American citizen. America barely even needs a reason

    • @rdred8693
      @rdred8693 3 роки тому +2

      He's awful.
      His citizens live on $1 a day.
      He has over $200 million.

  • @zentralratderfliesentischb660
    @zentralratderfliesentischb660 3 роки тому +1

    I always liked my big brothers story: He is a cooling technician with a master degree. He worked for a company with 4 employees ( Boss, his son, my brother, a polish guy and me occasionally). The contract books were full to the brim and he worked overtime all the time, yet he never got a promised raise or the holiday he announced he would take with 6 months notice (not approved). He got in to a shouting match over that and just walked out. He had a job the same day with a competitor. He spend the 8-12 working at A and demanding his leave and missing wage and worked the 13-16 for B. A went out of several important contracts and now survives on small business maintenance (bars, kebab joints, its shitty grunt work and pays almost nothing) while B took over the contracts for the local salt mine which are insanely profitable (If its broken and could be fixed they replace stuff anyway, and it is one huge ass plant).

  • @alexismyers6053
    @alexismyers6053 4 роки тому +12

    And yet someone on Reddit tried to argue with me about how cooperate bigwigs can be greedy. Not all, but enough that it shows. Like seriously dude? Yes, you work for a good company, not everyone else does.

    • @WobblesandBean
      @WobblesandBean 4 роки тому +2

      Is he aware you're not supposed to deep throat the boot?

    • @aguywithafairlyrudename9307
      @aguywithafairlyrudename9307 4 роки тому +2

      @@WobblesandBean lmao

    • @kauswekazilimani3736
      @kauswekazilimani3736 3 роки тому +3

      Some people love it. They'll even call you lazy.

    • @alexismyers6053
      @alexismyers6053 3 роки тому +1

      @@WobblesandBean probably not, from how he talked, it sounded like he was pretty high up on the food chain, so he obviously likes it

  • @Barrenthevampire
    @Barrenthevampire 4 роки тому +38

    Text: Quiting
    Text to voice: *QUIETING*

  • @beagleissleeping5359
    @beagleissleeping5359 3 роки тому +3

    16:15 "Even the drunk sucker who was our dishwasher."
    🤣🤣🤣

  • @DavidRay39
    @DavidRay39 4 роки тому +11

    I can't help but cheer for the people who quit. They had good reasons for doing so. Stupid, brainless, do-nothing managers aren't easy to work with.

  • @silasbrookhaven8165
    @silasbrookhaven8165 4 роки тому +4

    Not me but someone I know: Massive layoff because the CEO just.... Ran Away. Don't wanna say more to protect my friend's identity but the CEO just LEFT and told no one why or where or anything, just GONE

  • @Jacob727
    @Jacob727 3 роки тому +4

    Some of these owners are idiots. I've gone into some fairly serious debt to make sure my employees got paid. You take care of your workers and they will take care of you

  • @Scandinavian96
    @Scandinavian96 3 роки тому +6

    We found out our boss was leaving her phone in the room when she left and recording our conversations when she wasn’t around. Very illegal. A bunch of us left .

  • @opheliaismyname9180
    @opheliaismyname9180 4 роки тому +2

    Not technically my job, but about a year or so after I left the primary (English for elementary) school I went to, they got a new headmistress, because the old one retired and went off to travel the world (this was a foregone conclusion, we all adored her and wished her well and said she'd better update us on her adventures, which she promised she'd do on the school website). She was not a nice piece of work, this new woman. Condescending, rude and widely disliked. She implemented what she called "growth mindset" tasks, which eventually boiled down to spelling tests and stuff like that. Because of where my school is, we had a. a lot of dyslexic and other learning disability kids, and b. a lot of kids for whom English isn't their first language. It basically caused a bit of a riot. She stopped all the sports clubs (pretty much all of which were run by my favourite TA, a massive mountain of an ex-Army bloke who told the worst jokes and once rugby tackled a man who tried to kidnap a student), though lied to the inspectors that they were still running. The one time I spoke to her, I asked about a display, enquiring if the little dolly in Chinese garb meant they were doing Mandarin again, I'd learnt it for a while and greatly enjoyed it. "No." She snapped "it's our _faith corner_" (it was close to Chinese New Year). My favourite teacher was (and still is) the union representative. She was absent for a while due to being ill. She returned, and the headmistress basically tried to strip back any protections for her while she recovered, as other teachers went on maternity leave and were fully covered (Lisa was vocal about disliking the HM). The end of her first year, 25 members of staff quit, including all the office staff and the wonderful counsellor, who's married to the ex-Army bloke. They've been replaced with people who will kowtow to her and don't know what it was like under her predecessor (whose travel stories she completely blocked from going on the website)

  • @mintishere8898
    @mintishere8898 4 роки тому +6

    So this story took place at a middle school in florida I'm not gonna say the name of the middle school though for reasons, So there was this girl who was a special needs because she had Down syndrome she was in the special needs program which makes sure none of them manage to wander off and they're able to learn but she managed to walk out of her class because theres a pond in the front of our school where no one is supposed to be there was a fence protecting it but the fence was around 4 feet tall so she managed to climb over this fence where she ended up going into the pond no one noticed till I would say 30 minutes later where the teacher noticed that she was gone so she contacted the principal and everyone searched for her in the school her mother came to the school to help search it took around a few hours for one of the janitors to find out that she ended up drowning in the pond that was infront of the school this ended up having a ton of staff getting fired
    , the principal got fired so did most of the teachers that we're supposed to be watching her and the staff that was outside and saw her at the time this ended up having people in the school making myths that she haunts the school
    Also they increased the height of every fence to around 8-10 feet tall making it alot harder to climb over it

    • @TimStamper89
      @TimStamper89 3 роки тому +2

      Hardly the principals fault. The teachers in immediate charge of her care sure but others ?

  • @sopranophantomista
    @sopranophantomista 4 роки тому +4

    I audibly gasped at that Best Buy story. I'm so sorry that they weren't caught sooner, I'm sure that there were some cashiers that didn't want to, but herd thought is a hell of a drug.

  • @lillith77
    @lillith77 3 роки тому +4

    The audacity of managers/owners expecting people to work for free and criticizing questioning their loyalty if they complain. Seriously??!!

  • @RussellGreerOfficial
    @RussellGreerOfficial 4 роки тому +4

    In 2018, I started out in the document department of a large, local mortgage company. The job was great and I connected well with my teammates. About 6 months in, one of our lenders merged with our company and our company’s CEO insisted in his weekly teleconferences that the merger would not affect anybody. A month later, basically the entire company (including my department) was replaced by the merging company. People who had been there for twenty years had been let go. I remember one lady in hysterics because she had been there for twenty or so years and she said she wouldn’t be getting her retirement. I felt so awful for her.
    Fun times.

  • @shadowdroid776
    @shadowdroid776 3 роки тому +2

    I love my current job, but the company itself is so far out of what is happening to their employees that they couldn't be bothered to care. We deal with patients that will never give good feedback because they assume they'll get good service (which is understandable), but will complain immediately if they had to wait over 20 minutes without an appointment. What's their idea to help keep our morale up?
    Is it a raise for everyone? Fuck no, it's constantly telling us what we can do better and give us water bottles as gifts.
    My boss is amazing, and is the most patient, understanding human being I've ever met. Most of my coworkers are outstanding and I love seeing them. The CEOs and higher ups, however, are the ones I have issues with.

  • @mildymorbid
    @mildymorbid 3 роки тому +2

    Literally everyone quit even the drunk dishwasher and everyone on the bus stood up and clapped.

  • @Mikoto13
    @Mikoto13 4 роки тому +7

    I used to work at a museum and they fired this manager because the new VP person in charge wanted to hire their friend and all his employees that he had hired quit on the spot so like seven employees but that left 2 big section without staff no one to cover the store or cafe for The day

    • @dergluckliche4973
      @dergluckliche4973 4 роки тому

      I am a huge museum hound. Can you say which museum this was?

  • @GuardianMomoku
    @GuardianMomoku 4 роки тому +1

    The boss of my old job was a total b***. I worked as a preschool teacher for 3 years and we had a high turn over/low hire rate. Here's her highlights (keep in mind, all this happened to several people, not a one time thing.)
    1. Telling people they couldn't go to funerals, or telling them she needs them back the same day (even with immediate family).
    2. Being told a couple of her employees breastfed. Then berrating them for breast feeding by saying them being out of the class made it chaotic (in the middle of the ghetto where kids hardly behaved long before they were hired).
    3. Ranting at and even "punishing" employees if they called in. Whether you had the flu or your kid was feverish, how dare you not just "deal with it"?
    I have no idea how she never got sued, people just quit, didn't say anything to her, only other employees, and one day wouldn't come in. A month before I quit, the Regional decided she wanted her gone. Told my boss it would be in her best interest to "resign" before next spring. Idk why she didn't fire her on the spot, but she was compiling evidence of my boss not doing her job, so it's a matter of time I guess.

  • @avrilraven5499
    @avrilraven5499 4 роки тому +24

    The closest I’ve seen to a mass firing was caused by:
    A puddle the size of a soda cap.
    Everyone who walked by it, regardless of whether they saw it or not was fired. It was in a checkout lane that’s hardly if ever used, and wasn’t at the time.
    Welcome to Walmart.

    • @cosmicneko7225
      @cosmicneko7225 4 роки тому +7

      That basically says they wanna fire as many people as they can, because someone had to have noticed to fire anyone who walked by it, and just used it as an excuse rather than clean it up themselves.
      As a housekeeper, that pisses me off the most, people saying “this spot in an out of the way spot was here for a week” ok so why didn’t you tell me it was there a week ago?

    • @phredphlintstone6455
      @phredphlintstone6455 3 роки тому +1

      We had that happen at my Walmart. Nobody got fired over it though...they looked at the CCTV.
      About 6months later, there was oil leaking from the quarts.
      Idk how long it was there....but someone stepped in it, fell, bonked their head, and died.
      After that, for about 9 months, anytime any liquid was on the floor and maintenance was called to clean it up....a spill the size of a dime and maintenance was called from across the store for it...because paper towels are complex tools of the trade that require training?

  • @shawntco
    @shawntco 3 роки тому +10

    "Go-live was a mess of 12 straight 16+ hour days" Holy shit how bad was the code that it took twelve days to sort things out??

    • @sambucktooth
      @sambucktooth 3 роки тому +2

      they had 11 months to do a 18-24 month job..so half done at best

  • @haustyl12
    @haustyl12 3 роки тому +4

    I used to work at a Five guy’s and almost the whole staff either quit or got fired because of this toadie the owner hired. No one liked him, and he would fire anyone that he felt disrespected him. So all of us thought, this place is a sinking ship and we all jumped. Even the manager walked out after finding out the toadie and owner were shit talking behind her back. I went back to that five guy’s yesterday to order somethin to find a completely new staff. Everyone I worked with was gone

    • @grass7590
      @grass7590 2 роки тому

      What is a toadie?

    • @haustyl12
      @haustyl12 2 роки тому +1

      @@grass7590 someone who sucks up to the boss and will do anything to please the boss

    • @grass7590
      @grass7590 2 роки тому

      @@haustyl12 oh thank you

  • @xmixaplix
    @xmixaplix 3 роки тому +1

    Commissioner Suazzi (at the time now Governor) decided it was a good idea to hire his buddies from the cities to work in local govt with high salaries. Most work are contracted/outsourced but not put up as a bid. People would come in to give him his dry cleaning or giving him and buddies massages but not sure if that's from out of pocket or not. All in all we lose a lot of money from excessive contract spendings with little to show for that it bankrupt the local govt. State and federal set up a agency to monitor spending and made numerous cutbacks such as days off, wage freeze meaning no cost of living or raises, no overtime, and hardly any budget for equipment. When he left the damage was done and the employees were left bagholding and to quickly balance the books they offer a lot of people a retirement package early to get rid of some, outright fire others who can't even take the package and hire people much cheaper like $30k a year back in like 2008. A single person could find themselves doing 10 people work. I remember the day I went to work I saw a lot of people leaving in masses with boxes in their hands like they're evacuating the building. Some people they thought were not essential turns out need to be rehired so that was a kicker. The worst was when a old man begging for his job back and he was the hardest working and kindest person you can meet and they fired him without a thought. Luckily he was essential because th users he support was state employees who can't do shit so the state kind of paid his salary while still being a local employee 🤔 govt books fuckery

  • @vincentprice713
    @vincentprice713 4 роки тому +2

    OMG I BEEN LOOKING FOR THE STORY ABOUT THE SON WHO MOVED THE COMPANY, THANK YOU. I remember reading that last year and couldn't find it all day yesterday.

  • @xolskin1
    @xolskin1 3 роки тому +1

    Physician in a community health clinic. We got a new CEO who was trying to pit different departments against each other to break down cohesiveness. I guess he thought he could control us better. Within a short time, every physician and dentist quit as did all but one nurse.
    He later was offered a job to run a hospital in a neighboring state. We all left messages. Now the jerk is doing financial planning in a strip mall out east (one of those chains with small office in every town).

  • @justsomeguywithagoatee8337
    @justsomeguywithagoatee8337 2 роки тому +2

    7:50 I'd either get a class action going, have the entire fired staff defame the store or burn the place down if that shit happened to me.

  • @_JustAnotherKid__
    @_JustAnotherKid__ 4 роки тому +3

    2020...
    Black Friday...
    2020...
    If you cough, everyone will be scared...
    *Makes a 200IQ note for getting the stuff I want*

  • @129140163
    @129140163 4 роки тому +1

    22:41 “fricking the grams” 😂

  • @WayWardWonderer
    @WayWardWonderer 4 роки тому +2

    That story with "Waldenbooks" is just a fuckin' lawsuit waiting to happen!

  • @atree7509
    @atree7509 4 роки тому +34

    I wish I could get a job.

    • @phantom-106
      @phantom-106 4 роки тому +9

      you keep us humans alive :)

    • @TheLiamster
      @TheLiamster 4 роки тому +8

      You provide oxygen which is needed for humans and animals. You also take in CO2 which is great for the climate.

    • @phantom-106
      @phantom-106 4 роки тому +2

      @@TheLiamster yea trees are great

    • @chuffin4
      @chuffin4 4 роки тому +12

      Just try to branch out

    • @WobblesandBean
      @WobblesandBean 4 роки тому

      Well, I did kinda wonder where a tree can plug in a router, let alone pay the bill.

  • @F40PH-2CAT
    @F40PH-2CAT 3 роки тому +1

    Reminder, two weeks notice in the US is a courtesy, not a rule (unless you signed a contract stating otherwise). If they treat you like crap, just leave.

  • @joekupec7893
    @joekupec7893 3 роки тому +2

    Have one happening rn I work at a southern grocery store chain name not going to be mentioned. We were part of an old brand named Bi Lo but got bought out as our old brand was dropped by the head company because of the virus. So we feel like this new brand us having us work less as we all were making 2 dollars more as contract said we had to keep old pay. Well it turns out that they are cutting hours throughout the whole district because for reasons idfk, and locked the time clock so managers can'tchange the hours. Well after that got out 5 ppl quit, I'm looking for a new job and I think 3 are on they way and this is only for the front.

  • @j_the_don5160
    @j_the_don5160 3 роки тому +1

    It wasn’t a firing but more of a mass quitting. The owner walked in and said he was cutting the pay by $3. It seems insignificant but the difference between being paid $11 and $8 is huge after working 40 hours a week. At the end of the day it was just him and the manager after people came in on their off day to return their uniform. The next day he tried to get us to comeback by raising it to $9. I’m happy to say they are out of business now

  • @YoshikiByankotsu
    @YoshikiByankotsu 4 роки тому +2

    I'm missing how they fired the staff in the Waldenbooks story.
    Shouldn't they have fired the manager for basically blackmailing the staff to work overtime without pay or get fired? How they even had a legal floor to fire the staff?

    • @auraguardianemerald6667
      @auraguardianemerald6667 4 роки тому +1

      Who knows. Maybe the manager paid the LP guys off

    • @josepherhardt164
      @josepherhardt164 3 роки тому +1

      If they work in an "at will" state, no reason is needed. "At will" state = "right to work" state = political BS from a certain political party.

  • @snowwann273
    @snowwann273 2 роки тому +1

    US Cellular laid off hundreds of customers service people across the east coast and Central states.
    I was one of them, I was a tier 2 tech support. I was choossen because I take my time with people to help them. To help ppl save money instead of having 300to 600$ phone bills for no reason for "services" the customer didn't need or ask for.

  • @WobblesandBean
    @WobblesandBean 4 роки тому +2

    16:30 That's, like, literally every project I ever worked on when I was at Xbox LIVE.

  • @rararasputin8608
    @rararasputin8608 3 роки тому

    >Be me.
    >Nintendo Customer Service doesn't do re-hires.
    >November 2020, 9 months after I quit.
    >I get a call to come back.
    >I ask why, and still ask myself why when my supervisor told me I was the worst agent around (showed that I had the worst percentage of customer satisfaction).
    >I accept and go through training, ultimately getting a cold around December 20th-22nd. Due to Social Services, I end up incapacitated from work.
    >I finally start work on January 6th 2021, and before I clock out, H.R. pulls me aside and says that I'm being transferred to another campaign (basically a not-so drastic way of saying I'm fired and stay within the company).
    - After seeing how it was two rounds of people that had to swing by, it was an estimate of 6 dozen since Nintendo had to do lay-offs. Great agents were transferred or quit, while bastards remained as supervisors.

  • @tankofnova9022
    @tankofnova9022 3 роки тому +2

    For the story 19:50 I'm scared that any store that has a rewards program can do this at any time.

  • @peterturn
    @peterturn 3 роки тому +2

    Can't pay your employees?
    Alotta places that is considered trading insolvent

  • @Schregger
    @Schregger 4 роки тому +3

    That one with the in-mall book store... I just knew that was the way the story was going to go...

  • @Novafan
    @Novafan 4 роки тому +2

    7:50 this is when catching an assault charge becomes completely acceptable

  • @robertmaybeth3434
    @robertmaybeth3434 4 роки тому +2

    The best way to watch these "dear reddit" videos is I increase the speed to 1.25 times - otherwise it drives me bonkers - i can read faster then robot man can talk

    • @Vessecora
      @Vessecora 4 роки тому +1

      I increase it to 1.5x!

  • @carlfromtheoc1788
    @carlfromtheoc1788 3 роки тому +3

    I am surprised that none of the stories ended with the business mysteriously burning to the ground and/or the high rank managers or owner mysterious coming down with acute death. I do not condone such actions, but I understand.

    • @WERNUTZ
      @WERNUTZ 3 роки тому +1

      Yep especially little store turn off camera 5 ex-employees about to stomp ex living Manager.

    • @amberkat8147
      @amberkat8147 3 роки тому +1

      Ikr? We have such a high tolerance for abusive BS it just doesn't make any sense. How is this really the world we live in, that all this BS is, if not acceptable, kinda expected and sneakily condoned?

  • @bombomos
    @bombomos 3 роки тому +1

    That last one hits home. I'm just getting into A&P field

  • @t1junox
    @t1junox 3 роки тому +3

    when i worked at ampm two of the day clerks were caught trading leftover store food to a homeless guy for pot...first the manager changed the rules so we were no longer allowed to have any of the leftover food anymore but then went a step forward and simply fired all the morning crew except the new guy i was training...i was also fired despite not having had anything to do with the pot BS. manager was a dick all around anyway though so it wasn't a real loss for me honestly

  • @MadPuffinMan
    @MadPuffinMan 3 роки тому +1

    The whole picking crew 5 or 6 people canned because a new hire girl got mad there wasn't enough room for her. Went right to management and ratted us out for smoking weed at lunch. She was fired as well for not being a team player 😂

    • @MadPuffinMan
      @MadPuffinMan 3 роки тому

      We all had the option of quitting or being terminated. Everyone quit. Fork lift operators tried to get it as a suspension. But they used us as a warning to the rest of the company.

  • @dergluckliche4973
    @dergluckliche4973 4 роки тому +2

    I lead Brexit ops for my company. Take a wild guess as to the nature of the mass "separations."
    For clarity, I am American and was selected for the job because I had experience reorganizing multiple departments already and knew all of the various execs and managers whose cooperation I'd need. And being American, I had no dog in the Brexit fight so could approach it with an "outsider's perspective" while being familiar with all of the parts and players.

  • @leviathan7264
    @leviathan7264 3 роки тому +1

    The entire deli department and half of the cashiering staff were involved in a huge stealing scandal. Lots of free food for lots of people. Needless to say i had to pick up a couple more shifts for a long ass time.

  • @Roach4117
    @Roach4117 4 роки тому +12

    Only real people love this channel.

  • @Ayyogurlgetdatbooty
    @Ayyogurlgetdatbooty 3 роки тому +1

    I'm basically going through a titanic situation at the moment. The ship is sinking where I'm at and I'm just sitting back and watching it unfold.

  • @koolax111
    @koolax111 4 роки тому +1

    It became known one holiday season at a store I still work at that someone in my workplace had sexually harassed a minor they directly worked with and basically had a slap on the wrist. Nothing was done until she went public and 7 out of 32 people in my dept basically walked out on Christmas Eve with line out the door because 'she never told him no' according to the owner of our company. She told this to the minor directly when showing her snapchat as proof. We have no actual HR department and our owners work on premisis and deal with everything HR if the retail manager can/does not. He apparently quit, but came back after several months and he's now a shift manager. I'm glad my own career goals are leading me to slightly different shifts than him.

  • @eatsnowanddie
    @eatsnowanddie 2 роки тому +1

    I work at a papa johns currently and I’m a assistant manager and get paid $11.50, this is after 2 pay raises, checks around $450 every 2 weeks, i have to pay $350 every month for my rent for my mom, $87 for my bed and like ,$30 for other monthly stuff, they want each employee to go get tested ( if you don’t have the vax ) every week and pay $20 every time, an extra $100 every month yeah no sorry, I’m afraid to get another job but I need to because that’s not gonna slide, I’m mainly afraid because it’s gonna be different but yay new people, literally over half the people that work there said they are going to quit, only 3 people out of like 12 of us have the vax and 1 of them who has the vax is still quiting

  • @tarikdajedhai6530
    @tarikdajedhai6530 3 роки тому

    Started a new job as a cook at popular local area pizza place and bar and reported for my first day of training.
    The next day, while I'm getting ready to report for my second, I get a call from the owner who proceeded to explain to me how a waitstaff employee had managed to drop some drug paraphernalia out of the pouch on his apron which proceeded to fall and shatter on the table top of a rather large party, including a few children, who all saw what it was and knew what it was used for.
    The owner then apologized to me and told me to stay home because he didn't want to bring a new employee into the drama that this had caused and that, because the guilty employee was adamantly denying the allegations even though there where 10+ adult witnesses as well as unrefutable video proof as it had happened in full view of at least 2 cameras. The owner was left with no choice but to "lay off" (aka fire) everybody, front, back, bar, and maintenace/swampers, until further notice as he was turning the videos into the police and letting them deal with the guilty employee.
    Until that time, he was shutting his place down.
    So, thanks to some tweaker dropping his loaded crack pipe on a large parties table, I only got to work 1 day at my new job that I was excited to start and by the time they reopened, I had already found a different job that was a shorter commute and was paying me $4 more an hour.

  • @aaron9797
    @aaron9797 3 роки тому +2

    covid they laid off people making us at minimum staff and letting people go because of absences according to my boss for the first time in 6 years and now we are understaffed

  • @divingdeep6297
    @divingdeep6297 3 роки тому +1

    Your dad bought you a company as a graduation gift for your major, and you drove it to the ground in less than a year.

  • @AlexandruLipan
    @AlexandruLipan 3 роки тому +2

    No wonder Waldenbooks was liquidated

  • @jajahgadis
    @jajahgadis 3 роки тому +1

    When will people realise that NOTHING gets done without the hands and brains of the WORKERS???

    • @lemax6865
      @lemax6865 3 роки тому

      Many asshole managers don't act this way because of a lack of understanding, they act this way because they get off on making people miserable. The power to cause suffering is what drives them to pursue careers in business and finance in the first place.

  • @Hoshimaru57
    @Hoshimaru57 2 роки тому +1

    That last one’s fucked up. It not your company’s or your fault that a bunch of duckweeds looked at a couple passenger jets and thought “oh look, giant air to surface guided missiles.”
    Newsflash, jet fuel is explosive. That’s literally how combustion engines work.

  • @Audiogeek-kf2ez
    @Audiogeek-kf2ez 4 роки тому +1

    This is time to sue the company for anything you can. Like game stop is being sued right now

  • @toytruffle
    @toytruffle 4 роки тому +6

    lol people never like, they just listen.

  • @Snicketbar
    @Snicketbar 3 роки тому +4

    Your stork for Geek Squad before it became a glorified audio video Department. The day after we are bought out by Best Buy a bunch of bigwigs came in and talked about big changes. Many of which were drastic pay cuts since we no longer falled under the specialist category and that all the bonuses and the vation time. That we were promised before the acquisition were not can be honored. Search we are all now considered new hires. 40 people including myself walked out that day. Leaving only 2 low level managers that were hired after the acquisition and a desk clerk who didnt know how to turn her own computer on.

  • @TheBluePhoenix008
    @TheBluePhoenix008 4 роки тому +1

    11:23
    Gotta agree, that's how we sit lol

  • @darkhawk123
    @darkhawk123 4 роки тому +1

    If anything that just show they make good sturdy jets.

  • @SpeedWarrior93
    @SpeedWarrior93 3 роки тому

    Not to me, but to my Sister-in-Law.
    She worked at this 50s-60's type diner/restaurant and the food was good and so was the staff...it just wasn't in much of a visible location in a very busy area.
    Anyways, this happened before the pandemic. Apparently, the place wasn't doing well financially because when the employees (including my Sister-in-Law; who was pregnant at the time if I remember correctly) came in to get things ready for the day...there was a note on the door...it basically stated that effective immediately the location is closed...no explanation, no notice. With the notice was another note stating they should come to the other location in a different county. She and some others would soon be...would re-hired be the right word?
    Funnily enough, the previous chain that had that location (a certain...buffet chain) also closed due to lack of finances.
    And a few months later she was part a massive layoff from a pharmacy chain (the biggest chain in the area before the big W came in). This was due to shuffling upper management and moving the IT work to a India-based company.

  • @jololol7158
    @jololol7158 4 роки тому +2

    Literally my workplace right now. They aren’t happy that workers are calling in on the weekends (We work 12hr shifts on our Day and Night weekends) so how do they fix it? Eliminate the 12 hour shift weekend and make us work 8 hour shifts but for 7 days straight, through the weekend as well. It made many people put in their 2 weeks in and we all know that’s just gonna make it worse. Especially working 7 days through the weekend, our weekend. The amount of people putting their 2 weeks in and the whole employees telling then constantly it’s just gonna get worse for what they did and it doesn’t phase them. So I’m just waiting to see how it goes.

  • @MadeUpUserNem
    @MadeUpUserNem 4 роки тому

    Worked at a group home for kids who had a rough upbringing. A story that they always told the new staff was how an entire shift (about 15 people) got fired because they beat up a kid who was ruthless, fought defenseless kids, made shanks, brought drugs into the facilities, and put one staff in the hospital. One day he decked a female staff and kicked a male in his nuts. They jumped him. It was a well kept secret because someone was passed up for a promotion. The idiot thought that If they ratted their colleague for starting it(who was up for the position) they would get it instead. Instead an investigation ensued and they pulled staff from neighboring facilities after they were all fired at once.

  • @666Vampirefromhell
    @666Vampirefromhell 3 роки тому

    Also there was my last job at a hotel. Worked there 3 years. COVID hit. Ferlow happened. I was lucky enough to not be ferlowed so I kept working (sorta, long story). During the ferlow another company bought the hotel.
    After ferlow the hotel reopened.
    For about 2 months.
    Then it had to close for new restrictions.
    Because everyone there had only been employees of the new owners for a couple months they couldn't be put on ferlow.
    New company laid off everyone except one manager and the grounds keepers.
    We spent the last day having a farewell party.
    I miss most of those guys. Great team. Great friends.

  • @LucaxCorp
    @LucaxCorp 3 роки тому +1

    That last one freaking sucks. It wasn’t their fault the terrorists hijacked the planes.

  • @TheRatt96
    @TheRatt96 3 роки тому

    My department in pickup is mostly having a mass quiting. They want us to do more and yet we don't have people. My department manager is awesome and is trying her best to get people the hours they want but also trying to get more people and also helping not die from overwork. She has to fight with the managers. Also for some reason they are trying to make some of our workers work in different sections. We had a rough day the other day and one guy had to stock shelves instead of helping us not fall behind. I would quit but I like the people and so far there has been no final straw for me yet.