I just finished my Sunspot and he’s at 1 Diamond right now, he hits so hard people don’t understand unless they have him finished also. Most people have him at like 5 red so don’t have a good reference to how crazy his stats will get. Valley only has a 6 star which proves my point. Cyclops damage is trash compared to a full 7 star Sunspot IMO.
Cosmic GR is NOT replaceable. Him lowering focus by 5000% is too good. Sunspot is great as well, his ultimate has cleared crucible team when they've tried to send small teams to try and clean him up.
So here is a separate tricky thought, what's more important, putting the gold into getting characters to lvl 100 or buying red gear in store? Red gear will lead to unlocking maphisto and getting the rewards with the unlocks sooner, which will help in unlocking more. Getting characters to 100 gets both characters ready for DD7, but if they are done it helps get teams better for offence and defense in crucible/war/arena and higher raids. Higher ranking in all those modes gets more. If all defenses are at 100 they could hold better to rank up. Curious for thoughts. I right now have all possible arena characters' all raid teams (except hive, working on them), and all crucible teams except new warriors, war dogs and defence teams like darkhold/quicksilver, infinity watch are done. Could be better to slow level and buy gear, but then if they are done it's all gear and new characters.
I'm sorry, I'm new. I don't understand what you mean by 'upgrade'. Level 95, Tier 17 seems pretty upgraded to me? If that's not upgraded, what do you mean by the term?
So what level should we stop upgrading them? Your Venom's power level is about as high as my strongest character, Kang at tier 18 with a power of 509,011. Sunspot 16 153K, Ironheart 14 150K, Loki 14 173K, and my Starbrand 17 158K. You always have to upgrade everyone.
I'm F2p and 1 shard away from getting Black Knight unlocked I'm thinking about using what power cores I got to try and get him through pre-ord's any thoughts I'm tired of just losing to this guy
Hive mind is great, they're just saying don't over invest beyond what you need their power to be for raids, other than void knight, he's worth all the investment
He is saying what Remanx would say. "We test so you don't have to." Also, I think it's for taking characters to gear 18 and 19 and to 90+.Venom actually has been in the game for years. I think he was added when the first Venom movie released. Plus he was good when he released and then when the Symbiote team became a thing, he was REALLY good again. So all the maxed abilities probably happened when he was first added to the game, or when Symbiotes were the best Bio team for raids. And for higher difficulty raids, a character needs to be a minimum of gear 16/17 or else you can't use them. And the raid team Venom is currently on is the best Bio team for raids. But yeah. With Venom being in the game for years, he was a slow build. My Venom is similar since I've been playing since Launch Day.
They will revamp Venom, still a viable franchise for them, so I have him at 85 or so right now. I won't put more into him until they revamp him. But so far the two you have on your list you have them at 98, Venom at one Diamond, Sunspot almost full reds and full ISO 8, Ironheart Mark II at full reds and almost full ISO 8 at level 95, Loki at 95 and One diamond, and Starbrand at 90 almost full on ISO 8 and almost full on red diamonds. So when you say don't invest you mean almost to the top level for all of them??
I disagree with them, sunspot will be good Investment. He's good for harder raids I'd say required, and xtereme is apex in war, crucible you want them as big as possible
Idk sum stuff u guys say good stuff but this was no good at all my venom is amazing and sunspot amazing so idk full teams r always way better least what I think why u guys lose cosmic crusibal alot lvl them up more they will be way better
This list is a hot garbage 🗑. This people doesn't understand how they work sunspot really lol. Ironheart the one that apply slow to the other team lol.
It’s Val not Vall and I’m upgrading all these toons I’m not anywhere near you level I’m in doom 2 and gamma 4 right now and that’s not acts Starbrand that’s Starbrand 1,000,000 BC part of the avengers 1,000,000 BC Starbrand is literally the most powerful character in the history of marvel due to the fact he’s only as powerful as his opponents he’s always going to be a little bit more powerful than his opponents so if he’s going against Captain America he’s not going to be very powerful if he’s going against every character in marvel history he’s more powerful than the one above all
I've rewatched Crucible videos where people have tried to clean up my Sunspot and he levels their whole team
Yep same here, people don't respect the amount of damage that his ultimate can do.
@@Switch72nd Same thing happened with Surfire. 5 stacks of Offense up when he takes his first turn... NUKE
Love the irl collab! Hope y'all enjoy the eclipse!
Sunspot is the battery of the team.
yep
All “Spider” heroes should have the same tag in their passive so they can help in every game mode 🕷️
I just finished my Sunspot and he’s at 1 Diamond right now, he hits so hard people don’t understand unless they have him finished also. Most people have him at like 5 red so don’t have a good reference to how crazy his stats will get. Valley only has a 6 star which proves my point. Cyclops damage is trash compared to a full 7 star Sunspot IMO.
Venom is a trap for sure because skrull replaces him and people don't know this. but if you use Hive on War or CC defense he is fine at G17
Cosmic GR is NOT replaceable. Him lowering focus by 5000% is too good. Sunspot is great as well, his ultimate has cleared crucible team when they've tried to send small teams to try and clean him up.
Love this colab! You guys are both awesome!!
So here is a separate tricky thought, what's more important, putting the gold into getting characters to lvl 100 or buying red gear in store?
Red gear will lead to unlocking maphisto and getting the rewards with the unlocks sooner, which will help in unlocking more.
Getting characters to 100 gets both characters ready for DD7, but if they are done it helps get teams better for offence and defense in crucible/war/arena and higher raids. Higher ranking in all those modes gets more. If all defenses are at 100 they could hold better to rank up.
Curious for thoughts.
I right now have all possible arena characters' all raid teams (except hive, working on them), and all crucible teams except new warriors, war dogs and defence teams like darkhold/quicksilver, infinity watch are done.
Could be better to slow level and buy gear, but then if they are done it's all gear and new characters.
love these guys
I listen to valley before a workout just to get pumped up.
I'm sorry, I'm new. I don't understand what you mean by 'upgrade'. Level 95, Tier 17 seems pretty upgraded to me? If that's not upgraded, what do you mean by the term?
Nice un-upgraded Starbrand!
Watched both videos and agree more with you Valley
So what level should we stop upgrading them? Your Venom's power level is about as high as my strongest character, Kang at tier 18 with a power of 509,011. Sunspot 16 153K, Ironheart 14 150K, Loki 14 173K, and my Starbrand 17 158K. You always have to upgrade everyone.
I'm F2p and 1 shard away from getting Black Knight unlocked I'm thinking about using what power cores I got to try and get him through pre-ord's any thoughts I'm tired of just losing to this guy
Good list sir.
You guys are great been following for 2 years
Why do you need to replace them in the first place?
Hey Valley, any word on the numbers for the voting between Manthing and Wherewolf by Night?
WbN won I’m pretty sure.
Man Thing looks to be up by 5%
Thought hive men good ?
Hive mind is great, they're just saying don't over invest beyond what you need their power to be for raids, other than void knight, he's worth all the investment
So up to which level are you supposed to build them up????
Whatever the least investment is until you can do the raids that your alliance is doing then stop.
I'm fairly new to the game what do you mean don't invest resources when all of your examples are T17 and basically all maxed abilities?
He is saying what Remanx would say. "We test so you don't have to." Also, I think it's for taking characters to gear 18 and 19 and to 90+.Venom actually has been in the game for years. I think he was added when the first Venom movie released. Plus he was good when he released and then when the Symbiote team became a thing, he was REALLY good again. So all the maxed abilities probably happened when he was first added to the game, or when Symbiotes were the best Bio team for raids. And for higher difficulty raids, a character needs to be a minimum of gear 16/17 or else you can't use them. And the raid team Venom is currently on is the best Bio team for raids. But yeah. With Venom being in the game for years, he was a slow build. My Venom is similar since I've been playing since Launch Day.
@@projectpat8807 ok I see, what's a minimum for most characters?
I normally just stop at g13 level 70 with all the new teams since im working on big apocalypse
💥 Great meeting you guys last night!
-Tiny/Anarchy 99
Awesome meeting you as well my giant friend. 😀👊
i've found that xtreme xmen are very valuable in dark dimension global nodes
Sorry to say most characters have value
Woh your like on a whole new level of thinking.
I mean just wow my mind is blown
These are some of my top characters. Well shoot....
They will revamp Venom, still a viable franchise for them, so I have him at 85 or so right now. I won't put more into him until they revamp him. But so far the two you have on your list you have them at 98, Venom at one Diamond, Sunspot almost full reds and full ISO 8, Ironheart Mark II at full reds and almost full ISO 8 at level 95, Loki at 95 and One diamond, and Starbrand at 90 almost full on ISO 8 and almost full on red diamonds. So when you say don't invest you mean almost to the top level for all of them??
Venom was decent in dd6
Super early. Looking forward to this video!
Mobile looks like the proudest girlfriend in the intro 😂
They need a new mutants team with Magik and Sunspot..
Irl soo funny love it guys😂
I personally disagree! But love the videos and collab 😊
Venom? Thats a weird way to spell "scream"
So I will not be stopping my lvl up on any of them
I prefer full teams
All teams will be trash at sum point rules change and games change
Damm I judt got sunspot to gear 18 😭
I disagree with them, sunspot will be good Investment. He's good for harder raids I'd say required, and xtereme is apex in war, crucible you want them as big as possible
@@Bcwreak420 I have to agree
Idk sum stuff u guys say good stuff but this was no good at all my venom is amazing and sunspot amazing so idk full teams r always way better least what I think why u guys lose cosmic crusibal alot lvl them up more they will be way better
Right u guys just like plug and play all u do
No one should be using bifrost in CC. Its trash.
And starbrand is not trash. Has a top kit.
Actually: Replacing BR Bill with Deathpool has BF sitting at the #1 defense team right now. :)
Bifrost yes trash
This list is a hot garbage 🗑. This people doesn't understand how they work sunspot really lol. Ironheart the one that apply slow to the other team lol.
Damn.. unfortunately a video i cant watch…
Why not?
I loaded ok for me
Y'all are still pedaling this predatory game😂😂😂 haven't seen a video in over a year popped up on my feed and y'all are still pedaling addiction😢😢
It’s Val not Vall and I’m upgrading all these toons I’m not anywhere near you level I’m in doom 2 and gamma 4 right now and that’s not acts Starbrand that’s Starbrand 1,000,000 BC part of the avengers 1,000,000 BC Starbrand is literally the most powerful character in the history of marvel due to the fact he’s only as powerful as his opponents he’s always going to be a little bit more powerful than his opponents so if he’s going against Captain America he’s not going to be very powerful if he’s going against every character in marvel history he’s more powerful than the one above all