Given how late this is in the tech tree, you could presumably just leave the brain undissolved for a moment while building the tank, then as you break it down log it into the computer and make the dead guy(s) an AI that assists with driving the tank. Depending on your scruples you could even mind control them into being friendly to your faction despite having literally died in combat against you.
... i just relized... does this mean that every citizen owns hovertanks in Yangs cities??? gee and i thought underground bunkers were crazy Edit: without Nanomurization?????
Well, 18% of the human body is made of carbon. So I guess that the nanopaste can repurpose the very same carbon to make things like graphite, diamond, coal, etc that are part of the ingredients needed in making weapons.
Kemonokami - does not work that way yet (in game context). You would need something like matter editing to change elements, needed to change the predominantly CHONPS of fecal matter to the Si, Cu and various rare earth elements that make up a modern phone.
Something tells me that if Nanites become intelligent, they'll start making aesthetic and functional modifications to the products they were meant to build because they thought we had poor taste. A good example is if they decide to give a toaster a flamethrower and hydraulics because they thought it would make it cooler.
I may be nitpicking, but... "or enough impact rifles to equip a regiment." I would think that one should have been WAY passed impact-weaponry when he has reached Nanorobotics in the tech tree.
Not necessarily, by that stage Impact Rifles might be cheap enough that fielding entire regiments equipped with them is economically feasible. The sinews of war, a helluva lot of money and men.
I think it's meant more rhetorically than literally. If you have to sell an idea to someone who is not as well-informed as you in your area of expertise, you have to dumb it down for them and speak to them in a language they can understand. Besides, the video shows a tank being produced and not a regiment's worth of rifles.
In the GURPS tabletop rpg Alpha Centauri book and setting, it is stated that impact weapons are effective enough and cheap enough that they get used for decades after they were first created. That might be the reason.
@@RamdomView If nanites can produce more nanites, it would be trivial to circumvent such controls. There would be a vibrant black market for unregulated nanite canisters.
not likely if you're playing a huge map, you may have defeated most factions, but possibly one or two still left there with large army and many many bases intact.
AFAIK genetic code is way more complex than computer code. For one thing it can mutate unpredictably, gene expression is more complicated than code execution, there's environmental factors that trigger gene expression, things like viruses add junk to DNA, there are no discrete strands like discrete sections of code, radiation and some chemicals alter it (as in cancer)...
Which has no bearing on what the Nano Factory does, as it simply breaks everything down into its component elements and uses it to build something completely different.
@frederikIII You still need raw materials. And as far as we can tell right now, it won't be instantly constructed tanks. That we can do cheaper with a regular large-scale factory. Small, minute things we have problem with now. Neurosurgery, electronics and other small-scale precision works.
PyroDesu - Quite doable. Just have all the nanite fabricators in the preferably government controlled factories and don't include any in the canisters that get shipped out.
okay this superweapon scares me just imagine if it was real ? if anyone could just create equipment for a betallion in under a day ? i would say eternal war
Well the planet breaker in that game have acording to the manual a force of 296 giga tone tnt... and rip in the low reactor varion a 1000 km deep crater on impact... sound superweapon and overkill enough for me....
@frederikIII I still find it hard blaming a method of production for the existence of small arms. Lots of tech in AC is moving towards post-singularity stuff.
@frederikIII Or it could be used to construct edible food out of compost. Or eat chemical spills. Technology isn't evil, people make the evil happen. Generally, the benefits of a technological society outweigh the risks.
@SusCalvin its more in what you mass produce but your right there is billions of small arms out in the world unlike this one wich is more mobile shall we say?
nitpick time! Impact rifle infantry are MUCH MUCH cheaper and VERY obsulete by the time either hovertanks or this sproject is made. so more like enough impact rifles to equipt your WHOLE army.
In real life it's already started in the X-23Z project, using morphing metal to reseal damage to aircraft, some videos on this site show helicopters appearing to change shape don't know about that but, increasing the structurial breaking point is plausible.
Dude, genetic engineering is actually interesting by the end of the day. However once 'near infinite variable' computing comes available, you can predict with great accuracy what a certain gene combination can bring out. Unlike computer code (which you have to work out LINES of code to get rid of a bug), 'debugging' DNA is much simpler (because instead of having large amounts of code to decode, you can simply find the strand(s) and replace them).
Not the same. We have created *treatments* for cancer by playing around with T-cells. That doesn't have anything to do with genetic engineering on the scale we're talking about here.
@LithuanianLabas And that's why Gene manipulation is bad. Most people can't write a page of binary code that's free from bugs. And they think it's safe to play around with DNA strings containing 4 elements. O_o
Leave it to Alha Centauri to make something sound so awesome and so freaking creepy at the exact same time. This game really is magical.
'It is every citizen's final duty, to go into the tanks...' wait, I'm not sure that's what Chairman Yang meant.
It is now.
Given how late this is in the tech tree, you could presumably just leave the brain undissolved for a moment while building the tank, then as you break it down log it into the computer and make the dead guy(s) an AI that assists with driving the tank. Depending on your scruples you could even mind control them into being friendly to your faction despite having literally died in combat against you.
@@failedsample-astra Twas but a bad joke. I'm aware of the true meaning.
... i just relized... does this mean that every citizen owns hovertanks in Yangs cities??? gee and i thought underground bunkers were crazy
Edit: without Nanomurization?????
you can call it soylent green for yuri. It sound more positive...but be the same....
I like how it coverts the dead bodies into a tank....creepy.
Well, 18% of the human body is made of carbon. So I guess that the nanopaste can repurpose the very same carbon to make things like graphite, diamond, coal, etc that are part of the ingredients needed in making weapons.
@@chankljp Well, it could be possible that these nanorobots have the ability to manipulate matter at the scale of atoms.
>Poops into a bucket of nanite goo
>Finds it's been turned into an iPhone.
LIFE IS GOOD!
Kemonokami - does not work that way yet (in game context). You would need something like matter editing to change elements, needed to change the predominantly CHONPS of fecal matter to the Si, Cu and various rare earth elements that make up a modern phone.
I guess the phone would be crap
Finally, I can turn my relatives into something useful.
Something tells me that if Nanites become intelligent, they'll start making aesthetic and functional modifications to the products they were meant to build because they thought we had poor taste. A good example is if they decide to give a toaster a flamethrower and hydraulics because they thought it would make it cooler.
That was one kick ass game.
I may be nitpicking, but...
"or enough impact rifles to equip a regiment."
I would think that one should have been WAY passed impact-weaponry when he has reached Nanorobotics in the tech tree.
Depends on what is used as arty, or as infantry longarms.
Not necessarily, by that stage Impact Rifles might be cheap enough that fielding entire regiments equipped with them is economically feasible.
The sinews of war, a helluva lot of money and men.
I think it's meant more rhetorically than literally. If you have to sell an idea to someone who is not as well-informed as you in your area of expertise, you have to dumb it down for them and speak to them in a language they can understand. Besides, the video shows a tank being produced and not a regiment's worth of rifles.
In the GURPS tabletop rpg Alpha Centauri book and setting, it is stated that impact weapons are effective enough and cheap enough that they get used for decades after they were first created.
That might be the reason.
Everyone dives into the pool then moments later they came out as assault rifles.
this kind of tech would render gun control pointless
It would make guns pointless.
Then control the nanites and the control chips. Make it so that control chips cannot be tampered with and only do specific functions.
@@RamdomView
If nanites can produce more nanites, it would be trivial to circumvent such controls. There would be a vibrant black market for unregulated nanite canisters.
It's a nice military project, but it just comes too late to be useful for most momentum factions.
not likely if you're playing a huge map, you may have defeated most factions, but possibly one or two still left there with large army and many many bases intact.
AFAIK genetic code is way more complex than computer code. For one thing it can mutate unpredictably, gene expression is more complicated than code execution, there's environmental factors that trigger gene expression, things like viruses add junk to DNA, there are no discrete strands like discrete sections of code, radiation and some chemicals alter it (as in cancer)...
Which has no bearing on what the Nano Factory does, as it simply breaks everything down into its component elements and uses it to build something completely different.
@frederikIII You still need raw materials. And as far as we can tell right now, it won't be instantly constructed tanks. That we can do cheaper with a regular large-scale factory. Small, minute things we have problem with now. Neurosurgery, electronics and other small-scale precision works.
Yeah! Like everything could be recycled with 100 percent efficency!
Or all the weapons you'll need to equip your army, which is still pretty cool.
how do you know that it isn't using the "plastic materials" to make that stuff? composite armors today use plastic to some degree!
The game that must have a revamp!
*Cough, cough* So long as you don't program them to make more of themselves with the same programming..... Grey Goo, anyone?
PyroDesu - Quite doable. Just have all the nanite fabricators in the preferably government controlled factories and don't include any in the canisters that get shipped out.
That sure is a Tasty Planet you've got there...
voice over: "resource shortfall
me: more like resource sh*% fall
this project:
okay this superweapon scares me just imagine if it was real ? if anyone could just create equipment for a betallion in under a day ? i would say eternal war
Well the planet breaker in that game have acording to the manual a force of 296 giga tone tnt...
and rip in the low reactor varion a 1000 km deep crater on impact...
sound superweapon and overkill enough for me....
IMO? One of the most potentially frightening concepts in the world is nano machines.
At any rate, such an invention would be bad-ass... like the holy-grail of environmental scientists. The only question is, "is it possible?"
Yes
Did someone once say that there's no such thing as Science Fiction, only Science Future?
@frederikIII I still find it hard blaming a method of production for the existence of small arms. Lots of tech in AC is moving towards post-singularity stuff.
Now that's an outcome I enjoy seeing. We trade morals, lives, anything, for efficiency. But maybe that's just me
@matsku84 100% and 99.99% is the fine line between the finite energy of today (even if plentiful) and the infinite energy of a perpetuum mobile.
@frederikIII Or it could be used to construct edible food out of compost. Or eat chemical spills. Technology isn't evil, people make the evil happen. Generally, the benefits of a technological society outweigh the risks.
I love that woman so much
I'm shure DARPA is working on this right now.
@Shack11
That's how video game crafting works: Nanites.
@PyroDesu Great game. Both this one and that one.
agreed. What was it's benefit, some minor bonuses to economy..? Or was it support...
Either way, I felt jipped.
agreed
We've already sort of cured cancer by playing around with T-Cells.
Take a small step back? Did you see that? They tore apart a guy! Ide be running my ass out of there!
@SusCalvin its more in what you mass produce but your right there is billions of small arms out in the world unlike this one wich is more mobile shall we say?
nitpick time! Impact rifle infantry are MUCH MUCH cheaper and VERY obsulete by the time either hovertanks or this sproject is made. so more like enough impact rifles to equipt your WHOLE army.
In real life it's already started in the X-23Z project, using morphing metal to reseal damage to aircraft, some videos on this site show helicopters appearing to change shape don't know about that but, increasing the structurial breaking point is plausible.
HCl's Wing commander Movie Player
Lets not.
Dude, genetic engineering is actually interesting by the end of the day. However once 'near infinite variable' computing comes available, you can predict with great accuracy what a certain gene combination can bring out. Unlike computer code (which you have to work out LINES of code to get rid of a bug), 'debugging' DNA is much simpler (because instead of having large amounts of code to decode, you can simply find the strand(s) and replace them).
@frederikIII Got a problem with mass production? :) We're already waist deep in small arms around the globe, that is not a new problem.
99.999999999999% or 100%, who cares (maybe some sad physics geek :D) as long as it's a lot better than now.
@HK47Beta Planet rounds up.
Not the same. We have created *treatments* for cancer by playing around with T-cells. That doesn't have anything to do with genetic engineering on the scale we're talking about here.
You might consider removing "Not" from your nick =D!
Look at the Mars ;)
@HK47Beta Spoken like a true geek. :)
@LithuanianLabas
And that's why Gene manipulation is bad. Most people can't write a page of binary code that's free from bugs. And they think it's safe to play around with DNA strings containing 4 elements. O_o
You must have a hard time working with logarithms.....
I agree. Thou shalt not pervert the structure of life itself.