How much 'political capital' will the Muslim vote hold in the General Election? | LBC
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- Опубліковано 29 лют 2024
- 'If I were Muslim, I would be quite concerned about being made into a political football that the people kicking don't really care about.'
James O'Brien says the Rochdale by-election suggests the Muslim vote will be key 'political capital' in the 'ugliest ever' General Election.
By-election winner, and former Labour MP, George Galloway described the election as a 'poll on Gaza', appealing directly to the Rochdale Muslim population as he challenged his former party for their stance on the conflict.
Speaking to LBC after his victory, Galloway said he would give Keir Starmer a "piece of my mind" if he bumped into him in Parliament.
"I'd say [to Starmer] that the course of action you have embarked upon in your 'unqualified support' for Israel...is going to lead your party to disaster," he told LBC.
Meanwhile, immediately after winning the by-election, Galloway said: "Keir Starmer, this for Gaza."
"Your abandonment of traditional Labour values, your embrace of neoliberal economics and imperialist politics abroad is going to be the death of your party and it richly deserves it."
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its not only muslim people who sympathized with people of gaza .. stop this rhetoric
It's not surprising that this rhetoric is coming from the Tories, but it's absolutely shameful that Starmer and his Labour Party are playing along.
Indeed you only need to be human with empathy..I'm sickened by the main political parties in the UK..Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Exactly
Exactly I'm not a Muslim and refuse to vote for Labour now!
But the choice is fairly binary. Hope Galloway can help negotiate peace, unity and harmony for all.
You don't have to be Muslim to support Palestine. Starmer is failing horribly with his blind support of Israel.
Absolutely spot on mate!!!
Sir CPS Steamer is a proud member of the Trilateral Commission
James seems to pretend this isn’t going on.
@@SP-sq9gr I find Jamie's take on this incredibly hard to stomach. I generally agree with most of what he comments on, but this is outrageous stuff
@@michaelflinn7784 in the end he sais that, to him, Starmer should go further and faster in regard to calling for a cease fire. But sill... He seemed to me like those "leftists" who refuse to criticize Joe Biden. Sad!
Why is it that we are being molded to be pro Muslim, pro Jews and pro Christians but not pro human. I am an atheist and deeply care about Palestinians and the 56+ year of OCCUPATION.
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Perfectly stated. This is humanity and decency. Plain and simple
O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people. Quran 5:51
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The media meltdown since his victory perfectly illustrates that it really is The Establishment vs. The People.
That's the one thing I like about the result. The establishments lost and they're not happy. So much for the first past the post
The reaction is quite illuminating.
Dont say the people. Some of us dread the nightmare you people are putting us on. Its going to be ten times worse than even how bad things are now
They’ve gone bonkers😂👍
@@userfile007 in a few years you will look back and understand what a big mistake this was and it will be too late
Galloway has supported Palestinians for over 50years and hes right about the complicity of the red torys
He's married to a Palestinian 😮
@@anthonypallett6358 Yeah... so?
@@RealOGfikey so maybe just ever so slightly biased? 🙄
@@SpiritOfStyxnow look at who other politicians are married to. And apply the same logic. Come back with ur analysis.
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George Galloway speaks up for Palestine and that's valued.
Galloway care about himself? 😂😂.. you so naive
@@melmatrix8212 well that’s a given for most mp’s and O’Brian but it looks like Galloway is the only one speaking up for Gaza, to which he’s been consistent, all other MP’s especially those in labour face losing the whip if they support a ceasefire- what kind of dystopian world are we living in!
and the others care about the public, do they ???? @@melmatrix8212
he used musilim vote as platform to get into parliament 😂. his not going to help people of rochdale on issues like poverty homeless
@@lynnevenables7193as they should be because you do not reward terrorists
disappointed in james here - this is a pro gaza vote, not a muslim vote!
it should be a vote about rochdale and have fa to do with gaza
Agreed, a local election is not a vote on what is happening over 2000 miles away.@@1976darby
He's always been a disappointment 😞
@@Reprogrammed_By_SEGA Nonsense. MPs stand for local, national, and international issues. Galloway has done absolutely right here 👍
It's purely Muslim vote. Have a look at people behind him in front of the camera and you will see the truth which you refuse to see.
THIS IS A VOTE FOR HUMANITY😢
But is it really Leds?
That's why we are in this state...
He didn’t make this about him. He made it about justice, in Gaza. That’s why he won.
Absolutely. The establishment parties are tone deaf and in thrall to an apartheid regime putting political pressure on them to support Israel.
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You should read the election material he put out. It was all about him and it always is!
True
Will your next vote, be based on local issues or Gaza?
Labour brought this on themselves. Basically just tagging along with whatever America says and then complain.
Labour weren't on the ballot paper! You can't vote for a party that doesn't have a candidate
Labour didn't run.
@@RedDevilStudiotherefore brought it upon themselves.
@jonsweeney3845 It's a by election. They'll run in the general election with a new candidate and likely win.
@@RedDevilStudio no they hid after getting rid of mp ,and put in oh no f/////er..
This was a Gaza vote, not a Muslim vote.
same thing,,
@@stephenisom6089 Not very bright, are you? Gleefully piling up ridiculous comments on here - are you getting paid by the comment or by the hour?
NOT JUST MUSLIM BUT PEOPLE OF EVERY FAITH NO VOTE FROM LOTS OF PPL.
I know that folk are try in to normmalise islamaphobia, but shame on BbC for calling this a Muslim issue.
Not a Muslim issue your right its a humanity issue the complicits trying their best to blame others than there own
BBC British broadcasting corporation.
LBC London broadcasting company.
Different outlets.
It should be a Rochdale issue.
I rarely agree with GG, but he had spine and character so many times when the system made apes out of humans. So congrats to him, maybe Labour will listen now.
Out of interest, what have you disagreed with him on?
@@karimfarangfromthejungle6027praising Saddam Hussein? praising Assad? supporting brexit? supporting the brexit party? presenting a show on RT? there's plenty to find deplorable in the man. he's much more extreme left than most leftists but his morals aren't all horrific - his steadfast support for Palestine and Kashmir for example. it's clear he genuinely wishes for decolonisation (even if his opinions surrounding Russia-Ukraine aren't great) and the right to self-determination, which is a step forward at least.
Not with the current mob in charge.
I m not muslim and i m fuming about gaza...no labour vote....labour did have a candidate its their mess up
Not cost of living? Does Hamas care about Gaza ? If they did they would surrender .. you sound ridiculous 🤦♂️
@@melmatrix8212 Hamas cares about the oppression of the Palestinians and the denial of their basic rights. That's why they don't surrender.
@@melmatrix8212you're face is ridiculous
The Labour candidate turned out to be unacceptable but when it was realised they were already registered and therefore the party disowned him and pre-emptively removed the whip in the eventuality that they won. They then asked the people of Rochdale to not vote for him. So technically they had a candidate but in reality they did not.
@@melmatrix8212 It's you that sounds ridiculous, mate, spraying the same clichéd tripe brainlessly over every comment you think it will somehow fit.
I am one lifelong Labour supporter who will be voting green. Anything Starmer says or does now is too little too late
Big mistake. I rather have the worst of a labour govt than the corrupt, billioneer Tories.
same shall vote for green
Well done me too! I was so agog at his words and actions I sent him a email to let him know iv always voted Labour but never will again while he's in charge. I think they are gonna get a real wake up call and see how strongly people feel
@@beepresent8636nah, you're opinion is not as widespread as you think it is.
Same here
Define him anyway you want still better than those who calls them self human being while they have no humanity feeling congratulations Galloway
Don't be fooled by Galloway. He's a loudmouth trouble maker. He'll also do nothing for Rochdale. It's all about him.... now he's Ronaldo!!
Criticising galloways letter is like criticising a politician in 1939 for talking about the nazis as bad people.
Congratulations George.
Stop saying that we don’t really know what is happening in Gaza because there are not journalists there. It wasn’t a stampede how you suggested it might have happened, the IOF opened fire to civilians as a trap!! It was horrible, outrageous and you still do not know ‘really what happened’ !!! Pufff
There's no journalists there, only Hamas and their propaganda machine
James is always late to things
The letter O'Brien read out at 5:05 hit's the nail on the head as far as I can see. The 'Starmer Party' seem more aligned with corporate interests than with working people.
the labour party have dropped the labour bit and just party with our cash then bankrupt over populated we are a third world country woopy..
Jamesy, your cynicism of Galloway smacks of jealousy mate. Stop it already because it doesn’t make you look presentable 😊
GG will be a welcomed voice of opposition in Westminster (at last!). And do take it seriously, James, it will have a knock-on effect in other constituencies. Gaza is a prominent issue on many, many people's minds. It has to be, if we have any kind of moral or religious conscience.
I usually like James but completely disagree on this one.
Yes, I followed O'brien for a while, untill I realised how arrogant ignorant and condescending he is. I do believe George in Rochdale is a significant rupture to UK politics. I just hope its an unstoppable force.
Everything about O'Brian is a pretence because he actually is a neoliberal conservative who is actually happy with the current political consensus,
Galloway is shifty but he has always been on the right side of history when it comes to Israel & Palestine.
Iraq too.
Lybia
@@Athleticmaleuk and his own country F A scotland the not so brave,,,
Obrian having a meltdown. Is Jeremy corbyn Still living rent free in your head 😂😂
Jeremy “two state” Corbyn.
Is he really having a meltdown?
What’s does this mean
@@mcrook6780 Jeremy”2 state” Corbyn got eliminated by The Lobby for his real support for the Palestinian people. James & his ilk haven’t worked it out yet.
@@glennbateman4483 denialism is a stage of grief
But James, Starmer's resurgence against the SNP will be negatively affected by his continued support for war crimes in Gaza. But, like Thatcher, Starmer is not that bothered about what the people of Scotland think.
He's also not very bright
YAWN SCOTLAND THE BROKEN RECORD///
"...the only thing more impressive than his oratorical skills is his capacity for self promotion..." says JOB - the guy who never misses an opportunity to promote his beloved: How they broke Britain. Give your head a shake mate.
People conflate Muslim with extremists, true but then people conflate anti-zionism with antisemitism. Neither is correct.
There is no antisemitism in the UK this is totally overblown for political reasons. 99.9% of British people are completely decent.
terrible take from o'brien, you may not like galloway and you may think he's an opportunist, but don't let that and your desire for a labour government blind you to their failings on gaza.
Failing on gaza isn't enough to see another tory gov imo.
Jeremy Corbyn is ten times the man Starmer could ever dream of being.
Well done George! 👍
It’s not about George it’s about Keith’s Labour Party who have abandoned the people of Gaza the local council members the disabled the poor the NHS the people in work the people out of work and then there is the greed for power and money and status and the northern labour MPs who are a disgrace to the North it’s sad to say that I and my family will not be voting for the Labtory party under the leadership of Keith starmer
A grown man using playground level name-calling 😂 bizarre person
Cool, plenty of others will though.
You'd have a point if there had been a Labour candidate in the election. As it was GG beat the Tories and Reform, my Gran could do that and she's been dead for 15 years.
Labour needs to be replaced with a party which is represented by the local voices not the establishment
If this shows anything, it is that there is something deeply rotten at the top of UK politics in both parties, either Labour nor the Tories came anywhere near Galloway, or the Independent candidate, this says people are desperate for new leadership.
Labour didn't have a candidate in that race, so there goes your theory.
It's almost like we would be better off doing away with a system that forces people to pick the less bad of two terrible options.
The assertion that speaking directly & in a culturally responsive way to the gaping political wound that is created by Westminster’s uni-party approach to Gaza, as though that is somehow ‘offside’ or playing a ‘politics of division’ is deranged. That’s an argument that one would expect to emerge from the middlebrow euro-chauvinism one would have thought this host would reject out of hand.
James O'Brien is so far up Khan's backside, he could be his Suppository.
Hem O'Rrhoid
@@DPSamfish😂😂😂😂
Can U say the same thing for Douglas Murray and the Henry Jackson society for balance
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His oratory skills are considerbly higher and more refined than are yours James Errr Errr Uhhh O O OBrien.
As are his convictions.
Starmer should do the right thing because it's morally and humanely the right thing to do, not because he fears he'll lose votes in the GE if he doesn't.
Starmer's own words "I am a Zionist without reservation"
vote reform
@@IMBlakeleyHe’s an International Human Rights Attorney and can’t say publicly that according to International Law that an occupying power has no legal right to, “self-defense”.
@@jazzjames He's a lawyer and is happy to argue that white is either white or black, depending on who's paying him the most £££
You're wrong on this James. It's a humanitarian issue, not Muslim.
At least Galloway is steadfast in his beliefs and what he stands for he doesn't flip flop depending on the political climate at the time like starmer does.
Being steadfastly wrong isn't a virtue.
Galloway is a self-publicising egomaniac who leeches off sympathy for Palestinians.
Just ask yourself in what way has he advanced the cause of peace in West Asia.
Rochdale has shown many things, especially the lack of support for reform and reform saying the vote was rigged.
Absolutely. Reform are sore losers.
‘Reform’ are the establishment’s controlled opposition
@@jonsweeney3845 they have not won yet to lose they have lost nothing elections maybe autumn ,,
Galloway is the most humane politician in Europe
I am in Rochdale and have historically voted Labour. I did not vote for George Galloway (I spoiled my ballot) but I am absolutely sick to the back teeth of being told I have to vote for Labour to defeat the Tories, when Labour have either rolled back or watered down every single policy which I found attractive. Lots of people were disillusioned with Labour anyway and Kier Starmer's handling of Gaza has cemented the views of many.
well done George galloway.....
It's not a Muslim victory it's a Victory for Humanity. Free Palestine.
I just can't vote Labour anymore after hearing what Starmer said on your show
Id say it was about Gaza, not Galloway
To pull you up on a small point, you said Khan has been threatened by "both the far right and the Islamists": the Islamists are the far right of the Muslim community, Khan is being threatened by the right wing of both the Christian and Muslim extremists.
Look let's be real here for a moment, where and what is the British "Faar right we hear so much about ?
The best they can do is cite "Tommy Robinson " and 1970s National Front, but no ones heard or seen them for years .if you say Islamic extremists then the list of names of groups and individuals is much easier and their exploits faar more visible and barbaric ,if there was a mythical faar right after events of the last 4 months or so we'd know about it by now ...my thoughts are they just use the term to alow them to criticise the real elephant in the room ...a little bit anyway !
You’re exactly right
You got this wrong James.
How
@@sanchezz4387 - every way possible
GG has a bigger and better show by a country mile. His geopolitical knowledge of history is outstanding. I think James would benefit from listening to his show.
NO brother James O'Brien !!!! Gaza is not a Muslim issue, it's a human issue 😭😭
Personally if I had a choice between labour and mr Galloway I vote for Mr Galloway.
Galloway was addressing everyone regardless of spec. Get over it
What was Rochdale expected to do , if the Labour candidate won he was going to be expelled. Labour were not canvassing in Rochdale. The Tories also treat ppl with indifference
Sneering middle class centrist James O'brien keeping to form 👏👏👏
While in the UK & USA politicians talk about a two state solution to the problems in Palestine those in control in Israel have no truck with this. Corbyn was one of a few politicians who in power would have stood up for Palestine. The Israeli authorities know that the talk in the WEST is mere talk and that people in power in the UK will do as they are told by the Israeli’s & the USA.
if the labor party had done enough for the situation in Gaza they would've won. Simple as that
Hard to win when you don't have a candidate on the ballot paper because you suspended him a few weeks ago due to his anti-semitic comments!
Long term Labour voter I completely support GG & the workers party after what happened to Corbyn . Voting for the Workers party 🎈 was a representation of taking labour voters for granted
Me too
Labour sacking people just calling for a cease fire, this was their big mistake. Also Ukraine has fed to us for 2 years, with talk about going to war
stop saying Islamic fundamentalists and the far right as if they are separate, they are very far right.
Zionists are far right, they can't both be far right.
Lol this guy is so agitated its glorious
Israel’s policies & Hitler’s policies 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Everything on the flyer is factually correct. The leader of the Labour Part came on LBC and told us he agreed with war crimes. Well done George.
Why would you start by saying "he played a cat"dod yiu know George raised half a million pounds doing tje BB show? for Palestine,when most people looked away O'Brien is nauseating
Haha JOB calling out Galloway for self promotion
Its the establishment narrative. I cannot believe you still don't get it even after James took money from Johnsons Government to lie to your face about covid and cover up all the murders in care homes and hospitals.
RIGHT!! 😂
Great news that George Galloway is back in parliament!
George Galloway's 'gang' is big, James because as he says the two main parties are two cheeks of the same bottom and they're not listening to ordinary people, only to the people who fund them.
first time disagreeing with you here James, George Galloway has been the biggest non muslim to critique Isreal, and has been doing it for over 50years. Really unsettling that you think this. Hideous thoughts from yourself James. Its not always about electoral capitol my friend.
The actual James O'Brien talking about another man's gift for self-promotion.....
James doesn't do Irony. Clearly.
Thev man is presenting a radio show! What's he supposed to do.
Its not about the Muslim vote its about the vote of people who care about injustice and oppression in Palestine, here in the UK and globally
I have very little care for James's opinions on gaza
When did honesty become rancid.?
O'Brien seems to have a completely opposite view on how the UK really is these days, does he live in a gated community with private health care etc?
He's part of the metropolitan liberal elite darling!
Yaawn.
It's not opposite though isit, you just have your view, others recognise the reality he paints.
@@JD_London It would be very interesting to know the back story of O'Brien. Was he brought rich, something says yes to me?
@Neil-Aspinall then you would be mistaken, he was not, he's spoken about his upbringing at length that's shaped his politics, unfortunately I don't remember the interview but I'm sure with some digging on UA-cam you may find it.
I think greens are going to make surprising gains in the next general election. This was always labours race to lose at this point. The sheer laziness on this issue has surprised me the most. They have been step in hand with the Tory’s. No real opposition in commons except from the SNP who Labour conspired against
Galloway has been a voice for the Palestinian struggle for a long time. Longer than any other MP that I know of.
Hate what he says by all means but at least his opinion on this matter is not only clear but consistent.
Unwavering and unreliant on someone else speaking 1st
Its a big deal, i will never vote for a starmer Labour because of his love for Israel,
GG is on the button with this
Well done George Galloway. I don't agree with everything he says, but he's a genuine man and politician.
Well, he is a politician, so your half right.
Genuine man and politician? Last time he was an MP he voted 13% of the time (Parliamentary average is 70%)., he spent the rest of the time showboating and advancing his own causes. Only 10 MPs have voted less. Sinn Fein MPs for obvious reasons and the Speaker and Deputy Speakers. Despite hardly to attend Parliament then, he still remembered to take a full salary.
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Is he trans? 🤔
@paulheydarian1281 he's a dishonest grifter. The only reason he ran is so he can sabotage Labour, he literally doesn't care about his own constituents
we need someone like him in the parliament right now with what is happening in gaza
What is Keir Starmer about then, James? Why is Keir saying NOTHING that challenges the status quo in Gaza???
Who actually cares about the dying children??? 😢
Hamas clearly don't care about the dying children otherwise they would fight their battles away from civilian populations like most modern wars.
Ever thought that when Labour lost the red wall to conservatives they could also lose left wing constituencies to independents. Ever thought that large sections of the Labour base feel disenfranchised by the Labour leadership?
They withdrew the support for their candidate a while ago because they were not an acceptable candidate. They didn't lose because GG only had to run against Tory, Reform and independents. This result proves nothing, if its repeated in the GE then it will have meaning.
George Galloway is not perfect. I disagree with him on many issues...but he was right about the Iraq war and he is right about Gaza and he is right about Keir Starmer.
Way out of line here James
Im not muslim and i will not vote for labour whilst stammer leads it or for any mp who didnt vote for ceasefire. If they wont stand up for Palestinian children, they wont stand up for the children here either.
Your insinuating that he's letter was to win this seat, maybe, but it's also facts, period. Right now, all anyone with a heart wants is a ceasefire. Opportunistic OR someone finally being brave standing up?
I thought it more interesting that #2 was the independent. GG will have bailed at the GE but I think the independent guy demonstrates more the how reviled the major parties are for the blanket support of Israel's massacre.
There was no Labour candidate, it only proves that no one likes the Tories which is the least surprising thing to ever come out of an election in the history of voting in the UK.
He had two letters one for the Muslim voters and one for the rest, O'brien...both had different contences...
Jobby thinks that Ali's conspiracy remarks were a problem... They were his only saving grace.
Also more than a bit true
it was a tank that fired not troops.
tanks do not fire, soldiers in the tank fired. so still the IDF
@@roc7880 Did you not know? Tanks have gained sentience through AI?
James' unconditional love for the red tories is ruining his credibility.
He didn't need to 'woo' Muslim voters - there was no-one else for them anyway! You make sense James, and then you go off on a bizarre self-serving, subjective rant - what do you know about Muslim voters, James - as opposed to - what does G Galloway know? Think, James, don't just be biased...
This is what you asked for James, you should be happy. Can you not see the end of your nose?
Who doesn't self promote in politics ? What world do you live in
So James O'Brien has a problem with Islamophobia but when Galloway gets elected on a platform of standing up for the Palestinians in Gaza who are mostly muslim, O'Brien has a problem with that and puts Galloway in pretty much the same category.
Equally disappointing is O'Brien not having any problem with the labour leadership supporting Israel's brutal criminal campaign against Gaza.
Labour’s betrayal of humanity is unforgivable
Galloway is the MF man. 🔥
GG speaks more senses than many Tory and Labour politicians and the media hate him for it
JOB felt sorry for Jacob Rees Mogg's family when they were exposed to criticism of him, but has whipped up hatred of Corbyn and even launched a personal attack on his wife, a private citizen, because she seems to have suggested that Starmer takes his instructions from Israel. That is unforgivable. Strength to George Galloway. Would love to see JOB interview him face to face.
It's to do with humanity, nothing to do with any religion or skin colour. Both labour and tories are supporting Israel