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I've been watching so many of these videos to get the answer to the question you ask at 14:28. About the order of the router and switch. Thanks for answering it for me!
Just stopping by to say thanks for creating such a clear, concise and informative video. Everything about this made sense, no scrolling back, just great info. Thanks!
It is challenging to reassure people who struggle to set up their wifi. I am sure that you helped and informed everyone who watched this video including me. Thank you for this Setup guide!
Step son having issues with Orbi . He commented he was going to replace his router .. as per vid nothing should be between the modem only unit and the Orbi router. I shared this with him I think it will help . Thanks … I have no experience with these great vid easy to understand .
THANK YOU for being the ONLY hit on Google that explains how these are be wired. Basically was working off one comment making it sound like they absolutely needed to be daisy chained.
Amazing description, it was very interesting and instructive, it cleared up many doubts and I learned a lot, I wish all videos were that easy to understand, thank you very much
Question: I used option number 5, which I connected the satellite to the Orbi Router directly via Ethernet, but since I have a secondary satellite (because I purchase the version of two satellites), I connected the second satellite to the first satellite via backhaul and works, but the issue I’m facing is that I am experiencing slower speeds on the second satellite. So you can have an idea, my internet speed is 500mbps which the router and satellite #1 is reaching without any problem, but the second satellite is reaching 80 to 90mbps. Any clue why I am getting slower speeds on my second satellite?
at 4:45 time stamp of your video, you mentioned if your ISP provides more than 1 GIGabit of speed, than you would need to hook up additional ethernet cable from your modem to the second port on the main orbi router ? I have 1,200 MBPS of speed from my ISP. THE AX4200 RKB752 system, on the main dedicated WAN internet port, only supports up to 1 gigabit of speed. ARe you suggesting I need to hook up second ethernet cable from my modem to the second ethernet port on the main orbi router to get access to the remaining speed ?
Your modem needs to support it as well but here's an article that applies to the RBK752 among many other models: kb.netgear.com/000061324/How-do-I-set-up-WAN-aggregation-on-my-Orbi-WiFi-6-System
When I Google this, all I see is old info. I bought a three unit system about four months ago with RBR and RBS 750’s. Does this system simultaneously transmit both 2.4 and 5 GHz from each device as needed by the attached device?? Old info says no, but when I look at my network map on the app and at the devices on each, I see both frequency devices attached to each ORBI as needed. If that is the case, then I don’t really need to designate my networks as either 2.4G and 5G. Just trying to understand and simplify my thinking.
If i want more satelites does it need to be the specific or the same brand but cheper exmple i have orbi rbk 752 can i connect to it rbk 352 lidé satelite?
Hello I just bought an orbi star lite but just learnt I need an orbi router on the package of my orbi satellite it suggests RBR850 or RBR750 router neither of these come up when I google it thru Best Buy any suggestions u could give me please ?
By enabling bridge mode, you disable the router portion of the modem. Assuming the modem has a built-in router, if it doesn't, you don't need to do anything. If the modem has a built-in router, you would need to go to the settings (usually an ip address or site that you can find on the sticker of the modem) once you go there, there should be a few options there. Either enable bridge mode or disable the router.
This was very helpful. I had trouble setting up my wired back off today so I had to go with wireless. I have a router modem combo that I cannot put in bridge mode for various reasons. I was trying to hook the Orbi up to the router /modem and then run wired back haul but it just won’t work. My assumption is the router /modem is assigning an IP address to the satellite that the orbi router is not expecting thus the orbi can’t find the wired back haul . The satellites are not connected directly to the Orbi. They are connected to data drops in other rooms . Those data drops go back to a network switch which is connected to the router modem combo. So far the wireless backhaul seems to be working fine but I’m trying to work out a solution to get the wire backhaul working while running two networks.
I’m sorry if this is addressed in the video and I just didn’t understand it…we built a house out in the country and there are zero internet providers in our area. Therefore we have to use a mobile hotspot for our internet. We’ve been using a Netgear Nighthawk but this looks like more of what we need as they can be linked and expand coverage. My question is this…our service is provided by AT&T via a SIM card in our Nighthawk…does this system work that way? Can it use a SIM card to connect to the internet though AT&T or does it need an actual internet service like Spectrum?
So that's a great question. This does not accept a SIM card, this thing needs internet like Spectrum to connect to it however I believe (it's been a while since I've used this) this can operate in "Access Point Mode", (I know some of the TP Link Deco's (X55, XE75, etc) and the ASUS ET8 can) which means you can connect it to your netgear nighthawk and run this in access point mode which will take the signal from the nighthawk and expand it. Hope this helps!
Can I add a orbi rbr 40 …it’s a router ..to my existing rbk 50 system ..as a satellite ? Will orbi during setup process ask me if I want it as a router or in bridge mode to use as a satellite
I live on a property near a friend's primary residence, about 250 yds away from a modem that I can't connect to as it only has a weak two-bar signal. If I buy this combo do I simply plug one into the existing router and the other into my home via a power source?
That’s probably a bit far.. if there is absolutely nothing in between your two homes or very little, then you can try it. You could also try a more powerful mesh WiFi like the Netgear Orbi RBKE963. There’s something else entirely you can try called a wireless bridge point to point. You can just get a regular router or mesh WiFi at that point and plug it to this thing. This wireless bridge works for line of sight, meaning no objects in between.
Question: If you connect your Orbi Satellite by ethernet to the Orbi Router, does the WiFi at the satellite retain the same SSID and pswd as the Orbi Router? And automatically switch to closest?
I need help. So right now I have cox and it came with the panoramic wifi box. Apparently it’s a modem/router. And now I purchased the Orbi. Can I connect the two???? Do I need to disable (bridge mode) on my cox router/modem box? And then I can connect the two?
@landpet I have ziply fios, so I get network in as input to my main network hub in my home and I have bunch of network ports at various rooms with a switch in between. The fios device is in the garage. Not sure if it's a modem. In the cable box. Can I connect these devices to these network ports on walls and get wired back haul setup?
Typically fios has something called an ONT. That's similar to my current setup which is in the garage. I go from that ONT to my router then I have an ethernet going from my router to a switch and to the satellite from there. Assuming the ethernet is going through all the rooms, then it would be considered wired backhaul
Do you know if it is possible to power the RBR850 with POE? Do Not use the 110v plug. Do you also know if you can use a POE switch to power the satellite’s rbs850. I can’t seem to get a straight answer yes or no. If I need to use a 110 plug for the RBR850 that is fine… I am more looking to power the satellites with POE. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
I don't know the answer to that question but I would assume you cannot power router or satellite with PoE. Seems like they would take quite a bit of power for the wifi signal itself among other things.
If I previously had the satellite and the router connected wirelessly do I need to change any configurations to go hard wired as in option 5? some are saying that I need to go into advanced settings toggle off the daisy chain configuration.
Hi is thanks a lot of have two questions please: 1- I have 4 linksys velop/ with a wired back haul for a 3 bedroom villa . The one at the top bedroom keeps dropping. So I changed the placement of the router and so noticed the furthest one keeps dropping. This made me conclude that the signal even though through the wires is weak as I checked and determinate then cables . no other explanation I could think of. Thoughts ? 2- The Velop requires a “star” topology. Can the Orbi support a “daisy chain” topology and hopefully this might solve the issue of long wires ? Any other solution you can think of?
No problem! 1. Check your firmware is the same across all Velops and that they are all up to date. Check the Ethernet cables are pushed in all the way. Check that the Ethernet cable works fine by plugging a laptop to it for a day or two to see if it disconnects randomly if you don’t have a network analyzing tool. 2. Orbi should handle star or daisy from what I’ve seen. I only have the 2 pack for this but I do have the RBKE963 and that does daisy or star. I’m surprised velop only does star.
Good morning. I have multiple out buildings which i have ran cat 6 cable to. If I'm understanding correctly i should purchase a modem, router and unmanaged switch for my main distribution distribution point then i would need 3 satellites to be operational under one networking? Thank you for your help!
It should automatically connect to the 2.4, if not, you probably can go to the Orbi app and separate your wifi names between 2.4 and 5GHz. Then just put in the 2.4GHz SSID info.
Hey Mr. LanPet - very good set up coverage. One Q: i just upgraded and installed a new orbi two piece wifi just as you show in the video. I upgraded from an Arris 3.0 modem/router to a CM1200 Nighthawk modem only and hooked to my Orbi -wfi is excellent. However original config included a GS108 v4 Netgear switch with 4 hardwired Ethernet connections in my house to PCs and TVs.But since replacing Arrris and hooking up Orbis the wifi is faster than the ethernet direc connects . What gives??
Is your switch hooked up to a node that’s on wireless backhaul? Maybe your devices like your PC and TVs support better WiFi speeds and are capped to 100Mbps for Ethernet. Could be a number of things
HI - I have 1 Orbi router and 3 satellites that are connected by Cat 8 cables with a couple of unmanaged gigabit switches in between - am having problem that I seem to have lower speed when the Cat 8 connects the satellites than I do if they are connected over the Orbi WiFi - am thinking my builders may have wired the cat 8 connectors wrongly as I seem to only get 100mb speed via the wires when I get 600mb when I use WiFi - or are the unmanaged switches not compatible with the cat 8 cables - am waiting for 10gig switches to arrive….
As you mentioned, check the switch to see if that’s limiting you. Just as a heads up, even with a 10Gb switch, you’re not going to get those speeds everywhere, the router can’t go that fast. I also have a 10Gb switch
Option 5: my internet provider just ran an Ethernet cable to my satellite and when it’s plugged in via Ethernet, the satellite doesn’t work. If I unplug the Ethernet cable the satellite works via wireless. Please help?
I haven’t tried that, it just depends if it can pick up your ISP. It may work but these things are designed for home internet not for hotspots, generally speaking
Video is a bit old but still full of information. Ive been wondering if i cannot the satillate to the router via eithernet and this is the only place i found with that information. Thank you
My current wifi mesh system Asus ZenWifi xt8 (1 Router + 2 Satellites). My ISP has provided with a Modem/Router as a single unit. So, have to use the built-in router. So, what I did was , I put the Asus xt8 router in Router mode, with " Static IP", taking its own WAN IP from the ISP Router, and using its OWN LAN IPs with its OWN DHCP. . I tried using them with Wireless backhaul, but got dropped speeds at the mesh point to about 200 mbps. But now I have connected them with "Wired Backhaul". But Still, the MAX throughput seems to be around 500 mbps @ 10 ft from the Mesh point. Please let me know what's your take on the issue with so much drop in speed inspite of " Wired Backhaul". Do you think if I change to something like the Netgear Orbi RBK 853 will sort the speed issue ?
i just upgraded to 1 gig fiber from Spectrum and tehy installed a modem. my home has a central "media" box that outside lines come into (cable). from there i have home runs to all my rooms for cat5 needs. i plugged my modem into a "switch" and from there to my Orbi router, orbi satelite, other cat5 needs. based on your video this should not work. seems to be ok for now. thoughts? getting 1 gig speeds. wondering if i should change my switch to a similar(TP-Link Multi-WAN Wired VPN Router | Up to 4 Gigabit WAN Ports ) and change my orbi to "bridge"... thoughts?
If it works then great but I don't know your exact setup with your settings. You mentioned modem, is it possible a modem/router combo? Are you using a managed switch? A router uses DHCP to assign IP addresses to devices, so the switch would need to connect to the router so then the other ports available from the switch would be usable with valid local network IP Addresses. Now if you have a modem/router combo, it can use that as well because it's still a router. I guess the question is, what are you trying to do? If your current setup works fine, then no need to change anything unless something is missing.
I haven’t tried it but according to this site you cannot mix WiFi 5 and WiFi 6 Orbis. www.theverge.com/2020/6/30/21274645/netgear-orbi-rbk752-mesh-router-wifi-6-nighthawk-rax50
Using only ethernet cables, are the two obvious methods of connecting the router to the satellites supported: parallel and series? "Parallel" would be each satellite cable connected to the router. Series would be sequential router cable connected to satellite 1, then satellite 1 cable connected to satellite 2. If all devices are wifi connected, is the mesh logic also parallel (devices equidistant to one another) and/or serial (devices mounted in linear fashion at differing distances)? Would satellite2 furthest from the router exhibit degraded performance or is it actually getting data stream from satellite 1 instead?
If satellite 2 is "hopping" from Satellite 1 to get to the main router then yes it will degrade. If possible, try placing the router in the center so both satellites connect to it
@@landpet kk, Thx! Couple more...if serial all components cable connected, satellite 2 still degraded? Is there a limit to how many satellites can be serially Daisy chained if one desired a long and narrow mesh coverage?
So, is there any benefit to wire connect my PC laptop to a satellite on a wireless backhaul even though my laptop already has a built-in wireless network adapter?
Thanks a lot for putting what i think is the best video. I have a question though; i live in the EU in appartment building and I'm on the 4th floor, and my ISP is Sky wifi, i use their wifi hub which gives me FTTC. My garage where i want to extend my internet coverage to is 25-28 meters away on the ground floor on the same side of the building but displaced i.e. not vertically located from where my balcony is. I'm planning on getting an orbi wifi 6. How can i go about that? I'm sure that the wifi hub Sky provides doesn't allow me to disable the router function & therefore I'm weary about ending up with two networks with IP conflicts etc. What would you recommend? Will having the orbi router connected in AP mode plus having a couple of satellites work? I'm desperate for a good solution and no one i spoke to here seems to know what they're talking about. Thanks again and apologies for the lengthy text.
Thanks! If you run it in access point mode it should be ok. My worry is that 25 to 28 meters is fairly far if there are obstructions in place. You may need to try a more powerful router if this doesn’t work. Either an Asus et12, deco be63 or even more powerful Orbi 970.
Thank you so much for your prompt and insightful response. So if i hook an orbi 960 router in AP mode to my Sky wifi hub, and add an orbi satellite or two it should work, right? What do i need to do to put the orbi 960 in AP mode? Any special manual set up or would it automatically go in AP mode as soon as i connect it to the wifi hub? Would there by any IP conflict? Thank you once more!😊
I have the Gateway router/modem combo from AT&T. I successfully connected this system last night but I am getting the same speeds. I believe it’s because I didn’t “bridge” and turned off wifi capabilities. Can you tell you how to do that? Do I go to the AT&T modem/router settings or the Orbi settings to do that? It’s frustrating because it seems like I’m getting the same speeds because both wifis are on.
The easiest thing to do is to call ATT and ask them but typically there's a sticker on your existing modem with an IP address or some other address that allows you to go-to to access it's settings to then disable the router by putting it in bridge mode.
My orbi router had a solid ring of magenta on the LED. i then proceeded to reset it. After the reset the LED never came back on but all of the lights on the back of the router is green. any tips or help? Please?
@@landpetrouter --> switch--> 5 orbi satelite and one orbi router (put on as acess point) Does the connection on the access point recognize other iot devices on other satelite? I other word, are on the same network?
Great explanation. I am looking to upgrade from my Google Wifi to a wiFi6 system and your videos have been really helpful. I don't think I'll be going with Orbi due to having to pay for the parental control aspect, but I am considering some others in that category. The configuration that I currently have wasn't addressed in this video, but it might be that my setup is not the most common. I currently have a structured wiring box that houses all of my networking hardware and other equipment. I would like to know how I should set up my mesh once I upgrade. Hopefully, I won't have to redo too much, but I think I might based on your explanation. Current setup is as follows. Modem TO -----> TP-Link TL-R600VPN SafeStream Gigabit Multi-WAN Desktop VPN Router TO -----> TP-Link TL-SG108 8-Port Gigabit Switch. Three of the ethernet jacks in the home come off of the router. The fourth ethernet jack comes off of the switch. If I install a mesh system, will I need to replace the 4 port router with the router from the mesh system, or will I be able to connect that new mesh router to one of the ethernet jacks in the home? Thanks again for all of your videos!
Thanks! The simple answer is that since you have Google WiFi, you can wire your new mesh the same way your existing google WiFi is wired. You may need to run the mesh WiFi in “Access Point Mode” for it to be on the same primary network as your existing tp link router since your existing tp link router has its own NAT. You could also just replace your existing tp link router with the new mesh (keeping the mesh in router mode) with the following style: Modem->new mesh router->switch->new mesh nodes.
@@landpet Thank you for the quick reply! I am not a techie by any means so a lot of this is somewhat of a different language to me. I was hoping I could keep the existing setup as it is because having to try and fit the new WiFi router in that box wouldn't work as it will be much bigger than my TP-Link router. I am glad to know that there is an option to run the mesh system in "Access Point Mode" to avoid the double Nat issue I've had in the past. I hope that part is something that is easily done without having to call a professional. Thank you for all of the information and for your help!
Question, if I wanted to add an additional satellite and do Ethernet backhaul would the ethernet cable run from one satellite to the other satellite or would both satellites be connected to the Orbi router Thanks
I just ordered the Netgear Orbi RBK752 kit that includes 1 satellite. Is the ethernet wired backhaul plug and play meaning it will just automatically use the wired ethernet backhaul automatically if plugged in that way?
@landpet Thanks! One last question. I know it uses 2.4 and 5 GHz simultaneously. Do your devices automatically decide which frequency to use based on proximity to either of the access points?
@@josiahberry8743 Yes, it tries to prioritize 5GHz cause as you know that's where its fast but it will auto switch to the slower 2.4GHz when you get farther away.
Thanks, depends on obstacles. Range varies quite a bit based on location, more obstructions typically equals less range. But this one had pretty good range from what I remember.
Your explaination is very clear and cover most of the options. maybe you can create another video how to setup the orbi when connected to the existing ISP combo router that not allow brigde mode. thank you much
Thanks! I don’t have a modem/router combo and the setup will very hard on different models but it’s typically going to an IP address on the router itself and disabling it from there.
Does the Orbi allow selecting channels on the 5ghz radio by user? I'm asking cause I bought the Deco x60, and it doesnt. It preselects channel 44 based on the region you bought it from (U.S in my case) whereas I want it to use 144 or 149. Thanks!
Hi! I just purchased Orbi AX6000. I have a question regarding the Orbi SSID name. I have a modem from my internet provider with a wifi network SSID. When setting up Orbi, do i assign a different SSID name for my ORBI than my current internet network SSID name? Or name it the same? Also, do I connect the orbit router to my modems LAN1 port or WAN port? Thank you
Name it the same and connect it to your modem. If you have a modem router combo, disable the router portion of your modem by placing it in bridge mode. That’s what I recommend. You need to check the model number of your modem to find out which port to connect it to. It’s usually the first port
1. In case you have the 3 pack (Router + 2 Satellites), is it possible to connect one satellite via ethernet backhaul and the second one wirelessly? If so, is that still recommended over just connecting both wirelessly or both via ethernet? 2. Another thing which I need to clarify is whether I can connect a repeater (any brand) to the network of the Orbi because I need an ethernet access in my basement. The speeds there wouldn't necessarily matter as no other device is connected there. Currently I am having the wifi of my ISP modem which also is a router on just for that specific repeater, no other device would use the wifi network of my modem. I have heard it is better to turn off the modem wifi to not have overlaying networks. I also don't necessarily want to have another satellite just for that one ethernet port in my basement due to the costs of another satellite. What would you recommend to do for this scenario? Thanks!
1. Yes you can mix and match wired and wireless. Wired everywhere is always preferred. The more you can wire the better. 2. I personally wouldn’t use your router from your modem. I would recommend another satellite or just place a satellite closer and you will most likely get a signal even if not very fast. You can also try one of those Netgear repeaters but I personally don’t use them. I like having my mesh WiFi to be the same throughout so I will get good signal throughout. I would rather get a less expensive system like the to link deco x20 just to get another node that’s the same then get an Orbi set and use a non Orbi. If you’re going wired, deco x20 will work great.
@@landpet Thanks for the prompt response! Regarding the second point, I was also thinking about using a powerline connection from devolo as I had a set of them lying around in my house. So basically I would connect one of them via Ethernet to the LAN port of my modem router so I can have an Ethernet port available in my basement over powerline. In either case, is it fine to still use the ethernet ports of the router modem (WiFi would be turned off from it) or is it always better to connect directly to the Ethernet of the Orbis, most likely also using a switch?
@@thanatosLightGM I would connect to the eero or through a switch that is connected to the eero. Powerline should be fine, may lose some speeds though.
Great video so many thanks for all your efforts! I still can't get my ethernet to work through wall jacks. Wireless works. I have Orbi with router and 1 Orbi SAT and a switch. My TV is hardwired to switch and works fine. There are wall jacks for ethernet but when I connect computer to wall jack it does not work via ethernet - again, wireless works I tried resetting network stuff like ipconfig, etc. I tried powering all off and restarting - still not working via ethernet (but TV is) Only message in various resetting that I got was media disconnected error so I tried all solutions suggested on internet but still get same message. I have modem to Orbi router then Orbi router to switch and also have SAT Orbi connected to the ethernet jack on wall. Any ideas are greatly appreciated.
I don't know how your ethernets through your walls are connected. If it's ethernet cables going throughout your place, make sure they are all connected to your switch. Ethernet typically doesn't split unless there is a switch or something, so maybe you only have one ethernet jack connected throughout your wall and on the other side, the TV is using it. But the other ports are probably not connected on one side, so when you connect them on the other side, it's just an unconnected ethernet cable. This is my best guess based on the information you've provided. Hopefully that helps.
Let's assume i have 2 internet connection and configured in TP-Link Load balancer ER605 Giga router wan port for fail over. Now From This Load balancer LAN port do connect the lan cable to Orbi main router or in 24Port Non Manageble Switch. All other 3 satellite will be connected through wired LAN connection. I am confused From TP-Link Loadbalancer LAN port do i connect directly to Orbi router or shall connectivity go through Non Manageble Switch. Model:- Netgear ORBI RBK854 will be in use.
I have no experience with load balancing routers but here is my guess. I don’t think the order matters, you could connect the switch or the Orbi. You will need to run the Orbi in Access Point Mode, since the load balancer is your main router
I'm wondering if there's a way to permenantly assign the 5g/2.4g? I have devices that need the higher g every time they're used, but keep sending up with the lower g while things like my basic kindle get the 5...
I checked the settings, I don't see a way of choosing which one or changing it. If there is an option, it's not obvious. If you want something like that, you can get the Asus XT8 for example and you can actually create different SSIDs. Some other mesh systems allow you to do that as well.
LOVE THIS VIDEO!! PLEASE HELP ME....i have a netgear orbi ac3000 (RBR50 router and RBS50 satellite) with 1 satellite.the router is in my home and the satellite is in my shop beside my house. i have the router and satellite connected to each other by ethernet cable (backhaul) and the ethernet cable is buried from my house to my shop. my question is, i get 500mb download speed wirelessly in my home where the router is but i only get 90mb download speed tops wirelessly in my shop where the satellite is? can you please tell me why and what i can do to get better speed from the satellite? thank you in advance
Thanks! I'm assuming your performing the speed test with the same device (like your wifi phone or something)? If you're testing it with different devices, let's say you have a computer in your home and your laptop in your shop, make sure your laptop has the capability to go faster. Long story short, please make sure you're performing the speed test with the same wifi device (like your phone or something). If not, make sure the ethernet cable (make sure your ethernet cable is less than 100 meters) is not faulty since you should be getting similar speeds.
Just wanted to double check to make sure that what I saw on your video is possible. I connect my Orbi router to the modem and connect my satellite in the living room wirelessly. I have been connecting my video streaming box wireless WiFi. It looks from the video I can connect my streaming box to the satellite via an Ethernet cord. Is this correct and will this connection be better than relying on wireless wifi signal from the satellite?
Yes that's correct. If you connect a device via Ethernet to the satellite which is wirelessly connected to the main Orbi, that device will have the equivalent speeds as the best possible wifi connection to that satellite. Meaning the connection via Ethernet will be equivalent or better than connecting it via WiFi.
Should be able to but it’s not something you control from the Orbi app. You would need to get a separate app for the tp link. This should work but i prefer just to stick with the same brand and model.
I can't run an ethernet to the "extender" so do I need one of the higher end orbis, in other words, my home is 2000 sq ft, do I need the orbi for 4000 sq ft to go wireless?
It depends more on your internet speeds. The more range it offers, typically (not always) you will have less or no wifi dead zones. This RBK752 should be fine, RBK852 should be able to handle faster speeds on wireless backhaul but costs more.
hey, I got the Orbi RBR20 and one satellite, I'm paying a guy to run a 100 ft ethernet to the remote downstairs, but how do I hook the modem to my AT&T Uverse modem/router? Obviously I plug it into one of the 5 ethernet ports, but how do I get my orbi to "take over" the router job? Thank you so much
Great video! I hope you still are active on this thread, because I would really love to know if i can create a subnet for my rental part of the house through the router, dedicating one or two of the ports. I can then use the mesh for the main floor, and have a accesspoint (just cheap ones) though a cable for the rental apartment downstairs. Previously I have just used the wireless guestnettwork, however after changing the floor and adding heating cables, the wireless connection from upstairs is almost gone downstairs. How can I achieve this setup if it is not possible in the Orbi router. I could maybe buy another router with this possibility, and split the network, using the orbi as a bridge instead of a router? Thank you in advance!
Thanks! I don’t have this Orbi anymore so I don’t know. However it’s worth noting that what you’re looking for can be achieved using VLAN. It’s essentially just like changing the subnet mask to allow for another set of IP addresses. Check for that in the settings, you can also get a managed switch to do the same thing or you can get an Asus mesh system that supports that feature as well since Asus typically has the most options from any device.
Hello . I’ve been using an apple router for years . If I wanna upgrade to orbi, is there a way not to have to log into every single device and update it
Use the same SSID (WiFi name) and password as your Apple router on the Orbi. Just a heads up both the SSID and password are case sensitive. It has to be verbatim
I added a second switch to my Orbi RBR50 (one router and one satellite) and ran into some issues. I also have two Orbi Voice I use as extenders. I hard wired two switches with a home run from the router to each switch (one for my upstairs and one for downstairs). Now my ORBI’s will only talk to each other wirelessly and the backhaul does not work. If I connect one of the two ethernet cables to the back of the Orbi router the whole network disconnects. I’m not sure what I did wrong. Any help would be great.
I'm assuming this is your setup: Modem -> Orbi Router -> 2 Unmanaged Switches -> Orbi Satellite. The Orbi Voices are connected to router or satellite or switch? Assuming they are an unmanaged switches and they are in the order that I've specified above this type of setup should be fine. Or do you have it wired differently?
@@landpet The Orbi voices are connected to switches with a cat 6 home run. I tried disabling daisy chain on Orbilogin and that brought all the satellites up for a few hours but it crashed overnight. Now my router is Magenta and the internet shows offline.
I would start from scratch, adding one device at a time, running it for a few hours or a day or two. If you go in the order I specified, I believe you should be good unless there is a defective device or defective ethernet cable. Don't rule out a switch either, I actually had a bad switch that would work with some cables and not with others, took some time to figure out it was the switch and not the cables or routers.
I don’t believe there is an option for that unless you create separate SSIDs for the 2.4 and 5GHz. I can’t remember if that’s even possible with this but I believe it was when I had it
I forget if this one supports it but you would need to go into Orbilogin.com or Orbilogin.net on a computer that’s connected to the network and go through the WiFi options to see if it’s there.
Does the modem and orbi router have to be in the same room. Can I connect with a 50ft Cat6 cable? Will that slow down anything? Also, is the satellite a wifi access even if I am using the Ethernet ports? Thanks!
Orbi and modem do not have to be in the same room so as long as there is an Ethernet connection between them. Should be fine with a 50 ft cable, shouldn't be a slow down. Satellite can provide access via its wifi antennas and through its Ethernet.
Great video , I have an AT&T Uverse Router/Modem, I assume we hook up Orbi's router to my AT&T router/modem and disable the "router" functionality" of the router/modem? Thanks for your time.
I have RBK353. Can I have one satellite wired to the router and the other one in Wifi mode? Also, does the wired one has to be setup via the router or does the router detect it automatically?
Hi, very clear with your explanation. Just a question. Im going to buy a rbk753 kit orbi wifi 6. I will have 1 base and 2 satellites; can i wire only base and ONE satellite? In my case: ground floor-internet wired to base, and base wired to a switch (it go in all rooms) First floor: 1st satellite NOT wired with ethernet Second floor: 2nd satellite wired with ethernet backhaul. Do you think everything would work correctly, or should i have all satellites wired (not 1 yes and 1 no) ?
@@landpet thanks for reply! How does Satellite on first floor (not wired) communicate with base (wired, ground floor) and 2nd satellite (wired backhaul eth, 2nd floor)? Only with base or also with upper satellite via third band (if connection with base at ground floor go bad)?
Thanks, check for firmware updates, aside from that it may just be a software bug or you may have a faulty unit. Best to ask Netgear for something like that
@@landpet thank you for the reply- my system is still in warranty but out of tech support contract so they made me purchase a 3-month support contract to trouble shoot- took them 1.5 hours and eventually we rolled back the firmware two versions- we'll see if that helps.
Wow epic vid, but ive got a question If you got a virgin media router, and you usually use that. And want to get this. Would u use the virgin media router as the modem And also i pay a monthly fee for that internet with virgin, would i still have to pay it if i make it into a modem or can i cancel that plan
Thanks. You need a modem or ONT or something similar to provide internet access. So if your virgin media router is a modem/router combo, you would need to use it but would disable the router portion of it by going to the settings and disabling it or placing it in bridge mode. You need to still pay for internet access assuming you wanted internet access.
This is a great video thanks for the lesson. This might sound like a dumb question but if I have my satellites in different rooms (the are currently connected wirelessly) how do I connect them via Ethernet cable? I don’t want to see a long cable just running from room to room. Is there another way?
Most people run cables inside the walls, so it's not exactly an easy solution therefore wireless backhaul is the easy solution. This thing actually provides fairly good wireless backhaul speeds, you can also go with the absurdly expensive Netgear Orbi RBKE963 and that one works very well with wireless backhaul also.
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Wow. This is far and away the clearest and best explanation of how the Orbi works and how it is supposed to be set up. Thank you! 👍🏽
You're welcome!
I 100% agree.
I've been watching so many of these videos to get the answer to the question you ask at 14:28. About the order of the router and switch. Thanks for answering it for me!
Best explanation of how the Orbi works and how it is supposed to be set up.
Thanks!
Just stopping by to say thanks for creating such a clear, concise and informative video. Everything about this made sense, no scrolling back, just great info. Thanks!
Thanks!
I found your video very informative. You answered two of my many questions. With there was more videos like this. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Agreed
THANK YOU! Tried it this way with Starlink.
It is challenging to reassure people who struggle to set up their wifi. I am sure that you helped and informed everyone who watched this video including me. Thank you for this Setup guide!
No problem!
Step son having issues with Orbi . He commented he was going to replace his router .. as per vid nothing should be between the modem only unit and the Orbi router. I shared this with him I think it will help . Thanks … I have no experience with these great vid easy to understand .
Hope this helps
THANK YOU for being the ONLY hit on Google that explains how these are be wired. Basically was working off one comment making it sound like they absolutely needed to be daisy chained.
Amazing description, it was very interesting and instructive, it cleared up many doubts and I learned a lot, I wish all videos were that easy to understand, thank you very much
Glad it was helpful!
I wonder if once you have the external switch connected could you hang a drive off of that unmanaged switch... Thank you for sharing...
If you're talking about a NAS drive, it should work fine off the unmanaged switch
This vid is such a big help. Should be at millions of views. Not many info on backhaul
This clearly helped me out on backhaul
I appreciate it. Thanks!
Question: I used option number 5, which I connected the satellite to the Orbi Router directly via Ethernet, but since I have a secondary satellite (because I purchase the version of two satellites), I connected the second satellite to the first satellite via backhaul and works, but the issue I’m facing is that I am experiencing slower speeds on the second satellite. So you can have an idea, my internet speed is 500mbps which the router and satellite #1 is reaching without any problem, but the second satellite is reaching 80 to 90mbps. Any clue why I am getting slower speeds on my second satellite?
at 4:45 time stamp of your video, you mentioned if your ISP provides more than 1 GIGabit of speed, than you would need to hook up additional ethernet cable from your modem to the second port on the main orbi router ?
I have 1,200 MBPS of speed from my ISP. THE AX4200 RKB752 system, on the main dedicated WAN internet port, only supports up to 1 gigabit of speed. ARe you suggesting I need to hook up second ethernet cable from my modem to the second ethernet port on the main orbi router to get access to the remaining speed ?
Your modem needs to support it as well but here's an article that applies to the RBK752 among many other models:
kb.netgear.com/000061324/How-do-I-set-up-WAN-aggregation-on-my-Orbi-WiFi-6-System
When I Google this, all I see is old info. I bought a three unit system about four months ago with RBR and RBS 750’s. Does this system simultaneously transmit both 2.4 and 5 GHz from each device as needed by the attached device?? Old info says no, but when I look at my network map on the app and at the devices on each, I see both frequency devices attached to each ORBI as needed. If that is the case, then I don’t really need to designate my networks as either 2.4G and 5G. Just trying to understand and simplify my thinking.
Thank you I appreciate the full background--helped me out a lot! Cheers, James
No problem!
If i want more satelites does it need to be the specific or the same brand but cheper exmple i have orbi rbk 752 can i connect to it rbk 352 lidé satelite?
Hello I just bought an orbi star lite but just learnt I need an orbi router on the package of my orbi satellite it suggests RBR850 or RBR750 router neither of these come up when I google it thru Best Buy any suggestions u could give me please ?
Thank you so much for this video, it was exactly what I needed. You answered every question I had. Truly appreciate.
Glad it was helpful!
I'm planning to get this model and this was very informative. Thanks a lot.
No problem!
How do I disable the bridge on the modem?
By enabling bridge mode, you disable the router portion of the modem. Assuming the modem has a built-in router, if it doesn't, you don't need to do anything. If the modem has a built-in router, you would need to go to the settings (usually an ip address or site that you can find on the sticker of the modem) once you go there, there should be a few options there. Either enable bridge mode or disable the router.
This was very helpful.
I had trouble setting up my wired back off today so I had to go with wireless.
I have a router modem combo that I cannot put in bridge mode for various reasons.
I was trying to hook the Orbi up to the router /modem and then run wired back haul but it just won’t work.
My assumption is the router /modem is assigning an IP address to the satellite that the orbi router is not expecting thus the orbi can’t find the wired back haul .
The satellites are not connected directly to the Orbi. They are connected to data drops in other rooms . Those data drops go back to a network switch which is connected to the router modem combo.
So far the wireless backhaul seems to be working fine but I’m trying to work out a solution to get the wire backhaul working while running two networks.
I’m sorry if this is addressed in the video and I just didn’t understand it…we built a house out in the country and there are zero internet providers in our area. Therefore we have to use a mobile hotspot for our internet. We’ve been using a Netgear Nighthawk but this looks like more of what we need as they can be linked and expand coverage. My question is this…our service is provided by AT&T via a SIM card in our Nighthawk…does this system work that way? Can it use a SIM card to connect to the internet though AT&T or does it need an actual internet service like Spectrum?
So that's a great question. This does not accept a SIM card, this thing needs internet like Spectrum to connect to it however I believe (it's been a while since I've used this) this can operate in "Access Point Mode", (I know some of the TP Link Deco's (X55, XE75, etc) and the ASUS ET8 can) which means you can connect it to your netgear nighthawk and run this in access point mode which will take the signal from the nighthawk and expand it. Hope this helps!
Can I add a orbi rbr 40 …it’s a router ..to my existing rbk 50 system ..as a satellite ? Will orbi during setup process ask me if I want it as a router or in bridge mode to use as a satellite
I’m not sure but I don’t believe so
Great job! Very clear. Answered all of the questions I had.
Glad it helped!
I live on a property near a friend's primary residence, about 250 yds away from a modem that I can't connect to as it only has a weak two-bar signal. If I buy this combo do I simply plug one into the existing router and the other into my home via a power source?
That’s probably a bit far.. if there is absolutely nothing in between your two homes or very little, then you can try it. You could also try a more powerful mesh WiFi like the Netgear Orbi RBKE963. There’s something else entirely you can try called a wireless bridge point to point. You can just get a regular router or mesh WiFi at that point and plug it to this thing. This wireless bridge works for line of sight, meaning no objects in between.
Hi there I just connected the orbi wfi6 system without the satelite and still my internet is slow. what am I doing wrong?
Question: If you connect your Orbi Satellite by ethernet to the Orbi Router, does the WiFi at the satellite retain the same SSID and pswd as the Orbi Router? And automatically switch to closest?
Yes, either for a wired backhaul setup or wireless backhaul setup. It's all automatic.
I need help. So right now I have cox and it came with the panoramic wifi box. Apparently it’s a modem/router. And now I purchased the Orbi. Can I connect the two???? Do I need to disable (bridge mode) on my cox router/modem box? And then I can connect the two?
Yes, I would disable the modem/router combo then connect the orbi
@landpet I have ziply fios, so I get network in as input to my main network hub in my home and I have bunch of network ports at various rooms with a switch in between. The fios device is in the garage. Not sure if it's a modem. In the cable box. Can I connect these devices to these network ports on walls and get wired back haul setup?
Typically fios has something called an ONT. That's similar to my current setup which is in the garage. I go from that ONT to my router then I have an ethernet going from my router to a switch and to the satellite from there. Assuming the ethernet is going through all the rooms, then it would be considered wired backhaul
@@landpet Got it thanks!
Do you know if it is possible to power the RBR850 with POE? Do Not use the 110v plug.
Do you also know if you can use a POE switch to power the satellite’s rbs850. I can’t seem to get a straight answer yes or no. If I need to use a 110 plug for the RBR850 that is fine… I am more looking to power the satellites with POE.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
I don't know the answer to that question but I would assume you cannot power router or satellite with PoE. Seems like they would take quite a bit of power for the wifi signal itself among other things.
If I previously had the satellite and the router connected wirelessly do I need to change any configurations to go hard wired as in option 5? some are saying that I need to go into advanced settings toggle off the daisy chain configuration.
No you don’t need to change any settings, the Orbi will figure it out. At most you may need to restart both units but that’s the extent of it
Hi is thanks a lot of have two questions please:
1- I have 4 linksys velop/ with a wired back haul for a 3 bedroom villa . The one at the top bedroom keeps dropping. So I changed the placement of the router and so noticed the furthest one keeps dropping. This made me conclude that the signal even though through the wires is weak as I checked and determinate then cables . no other explanation I could think of. Thoughts ?
2- The Velop requires a “star” topology. Can the Orbi support a “daisy chain” topology and hopefully this might solve the issue of long wires ?
Any other solution you can think of?
No problem!
1. Check your firmware is the same across all Velops and that they are all up to date. Check the Ethernet cables are pushed in all the way. Check that the Ethernet cable works fine by plugging a laptop to it for a day or two to see if it disconnects randomly if you don’t have a network analyzing tool.
2. Orbi should handle star or daisy from what I’ve seen. I only have the 2 pack for this but I do have the RBKE963 and that does daisy or star. I’m surprised velop only does star.
Good morning. I have multiple out buildings which i have ran cat 6 cable to. If I'm understanding correctly i should purchase a modem, router and unmanaged switch for my main distribution distribution point then i would need 3 satellites to be operational under one networking? Thank you for your help!
I should add that from one out building to another would be "daisy chained" if I'm using the correct terms?
Sure that would work assuming the Ethernet cable doesn't exceed 100 meters as that is the theoretical limit.
Thank you very much
Hi, you know how to switch the Orbi RBR50 only to 2.4 Ghz? because my smoker Traeger 1300 controller only works on that frequency?
It should automatically connect to the 2.4, if not, you probably can go to the Orbi app and separate your wifi names between 2.4 and 5GHz. Then just put in the 2.4GHz SSID info.
Hey Mr. LanPet - very good set up coverage. One Q: i just upgraded and installed a new orbi two piece wifi just as you show in the video. I upgraded from an Arris 3.0 modem/router to a CM1200 Nighthawk modem only and hooked to my Orbi -wfi is excellent. However original config included a GS108 v4 Netgear switch with 4 hardwired Ethernet connections in my house to PCs and TVs.But since replacing Arrris and hooking up Orbis the wifi is faster than the ethernet direc connects . What gives??
Is your switch hooked up to a node that’s on wireless backhaul? Maybe your devices like your PC and TVs support better WiFi speeds and are capped to 100Mbps for Ethernet. Could be a number of things
HI - I have 1 Orbi router and 3 satellites that are connected by Cat 8 cables with a couple of unmanaged gigabit switches in between - am having problem that I seem to have lower speed when the Cat 8 connects the satellites than I do if they are connected over the Orbi WiFi - am thinking my builders may have wired the cat 8 connectors wrongly as I seem to only get 100mb speed via the wires when I get 600mb when I use WiFi - or are the unmanaged switches not compatible with the cat 8 cables - am waiting for 10gig switches to arrive….
As you mentioned, check the switch to see if that’s limiting you. Just as a heads up, even with a 10Gb switch, you’re not going to get those speeds everywhere, the router can’t go that fast. I also have a 10Gb switch
Thanks so much dude, all the info on wired backhaul that I needed!
Glad I could help!
Your first tip answered my questions regarding the router modem combo. Thx , very helpful
Glad it was useful
Option 5: my internet provider just ran an Ethernet cable to my satellite and when it’s plugged in via Ethernet, the satellite doesn’t work. If I unplug the Ethernet cable the satellite works via wireless. Please help?
is it possible to connect Orbi 850 to a hotspot device via cat5 cable and how to do the same wirelessly between Orbit 850 and a hotspot device?
I haven’t tried that, it just depends if it can pick up your ISP. It may work but these things are designed for home internet not for hotspots, generally speaking
Video is a bit old but still full of information. Ive been wondering if i cannot the satillate to the router via eithernet and this is the only place i found with that information. Thank you
You're welcome
@landpet do I need to be in AP mode to use wired backhaul. I’m using Orbi AX4200
No, AP mode is when you have another router (non Orbi) and you want that to be your main router and just have the Orbi extend your wifi
My current wifi mesh system Asus ZenWifi xt8 (1 Router + 2 Satellites). My ISP has provided with a Modem/Router as a single unit. So, have to use the built-in router. So, what I did was , I put the Asus xt8 router in Router mode, with " Static IP", taking its own WAN IP from the ISP Router, and using its OWN LAN IPs with its OWN DHCP. . I tried using them with Wireless backhaul, but got dropped speeds at the mesh point to about 200 mbps. But now I have connected them with "Wired Backhaul". But Still, the MAX throughput seems to be around 500 mbps @ 10 ft from the Mesh point. Please let me know what's your take on the issue with so much drop in speed inspite of " Wired Backhaul". Do you think if I change to something like the Netgear Orbi RBK 853 will sort the speed issue ?
i just upgraded to 1 gig fiber from Spectrum and tehy installed a modem. my home has a central "media" box that outside lines come into (cable). from there i have home runs to all my rooms for cat5 needs. i plugged my modem into a "switch" and from there to my Orbi router, orbi satelite, other cat5 needs. based on your video this should not work. seems to be ok for now. thoughts?
getting 1 gig speeds.
wondering if i should change my switch to a similar(TP-Link Multi-WAN Wired VPN Router | Up to 4 Gigabit WAN Ports ) and change my orbi to "bridge"... thoughts?
If it works then great but I don't know your exact setup with your settings. You mentioned modem, is it possible a modem/router combo? Are you using a managed switch? A router uses DHCP to assign IP addresses to devices, so the switch would need to connect to the router so then the other ports available from the switch would be usable with valid local network IP Addresses. Now if you have a modem/router combo, it can use that as well because it's still a router.
I guess the question is, what are you trying to do? If your current setup works fine, then no need to change anything unless something is missing.
Hi, is it also possible to use the router and replace my modem, meaning my fiber cable directly connecting to the orbi router.
Thanks.
You need a modem, unless you get one that’s built in which is something I personally don’t recommend.
@@landpet so I cant use the Orbi router as a modem as well?because my current modem is from my ISP and it’s a modem with router functionality
I have an Orbi AC3000 and wondering if I can add a 4th, 5th and 6th Orbi to my existing 3
I haven’t tried it but according to this site you cannot mix WiFi 5 and WiFi 6 Orbis. www.theverge.com/2020/6/30/21274645/netgear-orbi-rbk752-mesh-router-wifi-6-nighthawk-rax50
can i use moca and use coax cable to orbi satellite? will that broadcast faster speeds? im only getting 200 when im on wifi and paying for 500. thanks
Yes you can go through MoCA, should be faster assuming you got a newer version of MoCA
Using only ethernet cables, are the two obvious methods of connecting the router to the satellites supported: parallel and series? "Parallel" would be each satellite cable connected to the router. Series would be sequential router cable connected to satellite 1, then satellite 1 cable connected to satellite 2. If all devices are wifi connected, is the mesh logic also parallel (devices equidistant to one another) and/or serial (devices mounted in linear fashion at differing distances)? Would satellite2 furthest from the router exhibit degraded performance or is it actually getting data stream from satellite 1 instead?
If satellite 2 is "hopping" from Satellite 1 to get to the main router then yes it will degrade. If possible, try placing the router in the center so both satellites connect to it
@@landpet kk, Thx!
Couple more...if serial all components cable connected, satellite 2 still degraded? Is there a limit to how many satellites can be serially Daisy chained if one desired a long and narrow mesh coverage?
So, is there any benefit to wire connect my PC laptop to a satellite on a wireless backhaul even though my laptop already has a built-in wireless network adapter?
not much if you already have a good wifi card and there aren't too many devices on wifi.
Thanks a lot for putting what i think is the best video. I have a question though; i live in the EU in appartment building and I'm on the 4th floor, and my ISP is Sky wifi, i use their wifi hub which gives me FTTC. My garage where i want to extend my internet coverage to is 25-28 meters away on the ground floor on the same side of the building but displaced i.e. not vertically located from where my balcony is. I'm planning on getting an orbi wifi 6. How can i go about that? I'm sure that the wifi hub Sky provides doesn't allow me to disable the router function & therefore I'm weary about ending up with two networks with IP conflicts etc. What would you recommend? Will having the orbi router connected in AP mode plus having a couple of satellites work? I'm desperate for a good solution and no one i spoke to here seems to know what they're talking about. Thanks again and apologies for the lengthy text.
Thanks!
If you run it in access point mode it should be ok. My worry is that 25 to 28 meters is fairly far if there are obstructions in place. You may need to try a more powerful router if this doesn’t work. Either an Asus et12, deco be63 or even more powerful Orbi 970.
Thank you so much for your prompt and insightful response. So if i hook an orbi 960 router in AP mode to my Sky wifi hub, and add an orbi satellite or two it should work, right? What do i need to do to put the orbi 960 in AP mode? Any special manual set up or would it automatically go in AP mode as soon as i connect it to the wifi hub? Would there by any IP conflict? Thank you once more!😊
Also, would an Orbi 963 be ok? I can't see the Orbi 970 on their website?
I have the Gateway router/modem combo from AT&T. I successfully connected this system last night but I am getting the same speeds. I believe it’s because I didn’t “bridge” and turned off wifi capabilities. Can you tell you how to do that? Do I go to the AT&T modem/router settings or the Orbi settings to do that? It’s frustrating because it seems like I’m getting the same speeds because both wifis are on.
The easiest thing to do is to call ATT and ask them but typically there's a sticker on your existing modem with an IP address or some other address that allows you to go-to to access it's settings to then disable the router by putting it in bridge mode.
Can I use the orbi 963 Router directly on my gigabit port that comes to my house. So that I don't need a router or something like this
As long as that's the source of your internet and it comes in ethernet form, then you should be able to connect to the Orbi directly.
So - net -> router -> switch -> switch -> sattelite -> wireless wifi from there. Is this possible?
Yup that works. As long as modem -> router -> at this point you have a lot of freedom. The important part is modem to router.
My orbi router had a solid ring of magenta on the LED. i then proceeded to reset it. After the reset the LED never came back on but all of the lights on the back of the router is green. any tips or help? Please?
Magenta means it's not connecting (essentially there is an issue). LED not on means it's working just fine.
Hi can i use the orbi Router 852 and Satelite as AccessPoint?
I don’t know, most Orbis are not compatible with other Orbi models
Can I re-use my old satellite orbi RBS20 with AX3000 router.
I believe it's a no but I'm no 100%
how does this setup work by wiring router and satelite threw the a switch?
It’s automatic through an unmanaged switch
@@landpetrouter --> switch--> 5 orbi satelite and one orbi router (put on as acess point)
Does the connection on the access point recognize other iot devices on other satelite? I other word, are on the same network?
Great explanation. I am looking to upgrade from my Google Wifi to a wiFi6 system and your videos have been really helpful. I don't think I'll be going with Orbi due to having to pay for the parental control aspect, but I am considering some others in that category. The configuration that I currently have wasn't addressed in this video, but it might be that my setup is not the most common. I currently have a structured wiring box that houses all of my networking hardware and other equipment. I would like to know how I should set up my mesh once I upgrade. Hopefully, I won't have to redo too much, but I think I might based on your explanation. Current setup is as follows. Modem TO -----> TP-Link TL-R600VPN SafeStream Gigabit Multi-WAN Desktop VPN Router TO -----> TP-Link TL-SG108 8-Port Gigabit Switch. Three of the ethernet jacks in the home come off of the router. The fourth ethernet jack comes off of the switch. If I install a mesh system, will I need to replace the 4 port router with the router from the mesh system, or will I be able to connect that new mesh router to one of the ethernet jacks in the home? Thanks again for all of your videos!
Thanks! The simple answer is that since you have Google WiFi, you can wire your new mesh the same way your existing google WiFi is wired. You may need to run the mesh WiFi in “Access Point Mode” for it to be on the same primary network as your existing tp link router since your existing tp link router has its own NAT.
You could also just replace your existing tp link router with the new mesh (keeping the mesh in router mode) with the following style:
Modem->new mesh router->switch->new mesh nodes.
@@landpet Thank you for the quick reply! I am not a techie by any means so a lot of this is somewhat of a different language to me. I was hoping I could keep the existing setup as it is because having to try and fit the new WiFi router in that box wouldn't work as it will be much bigger than my TP-Link router. I am glad to know that there is an option to run the mesh system in "Access Point Mode" to avoid the double Nat issue I've had in the past. I hope that part is something that is easily done without having to call a professional. Thank you for all of the information and for your help!
Mine goes solid white during setup then says I don’t have internet even though I’m connected to the network Orbi puts out
Question, if I wanted to add an additional satellite and do Ethernet backhaul would the ethernet cable run from one satellite to the other satellite or would both satellites be connected to the Orbi router
Thanks
either one is fine, as long as the ethernet makes it all the way back to the main router and is less than 100 meters.
Can the satellite connect to the satellite instead of the router? If I move it do I have to resync it again?
Satellite can connect to the satellite. It will automatically resync once it’s been setup. Just plug it in and wait and you should be good
I just ordered the Netgear Orbi RBK752 kit that includes 1 satellite. Is the ethernet wired backhaul plug and play meaning it will just automatically use the wired ethernet backhaul automatically if plugged in that way?
Yes, it's all automatic
@landpet Thanks! One last question. I know it uses 2.4 and 5 GHz simultaneously. Do your devices automatically decide which frequency to use based on proximity to either of the access points?
@@josiahberry8743 Yes, it tries to prioritize 5GHz cause as you know that's where its fast but it will auto switch to the slower 2.4GHz when you get farther away.
@@landpet Thanks for all you help!
Great video!
What’s the wifi coverage like for example at the bottom of your garden? Can you still get strong wi fi signal?
Thanks, depends on obstacles. Range varies quite a bit based on location, more obstructions typically equals less range. But this one had pretty good range from what I remember.
Your explaination is very clear and cover most of the options. maybe you can create another video how to setup the orbi when connected to the existing ISP combo router that not allow brigde mode. thank you much
Thanks! I don’t have a modem/router combo and the setup will very hard on different models but it’s typically going to an IP address on the router itself and disabling it from there.
Hi. What if I connect the Orbi in a ethernet port in a wall? Will it work? Or do I really need a modem or switch?
If your wall is providing you internet access then that's all you need.
I have 2 orbi routers (they were in the apartment I moved into) can I turn one into a satellite?
I don't know, I would assume so if it's the same model but I'm not sure since I haven't tried that.
Does the Orbi allow selecting channels on the 5ghz radio by user? I'm asking cause I bought the Deco x60, and it doesnt. It preselects channel 44 based on the region you bought it from (U.S in my case) whereas I want it to use 144 or 149. Thanks!
I don't have this in use at the moment so I'm not sure. Generally speaking, ASUS is the router/mesh with most options.
Hi! I just purchased Orbi AX6000. I have a question regarding the Orbi SSID name. I have a modem from my internet provider with a wifi network SSID. When setting up Orbi, do i assign a different SSID name for my ORBI than my current internet network SSID name? Or name it the same? Also, do I connect the orbit router to my modems LAN1 port or WAN port? Thank you
Name it the same and connect it to your modem. If you have a modem router combo, disable the router portion of your modem by placing it in bridge mode. That’s what I recommend. You need to check the model number of your modem to find out which port to connect it to. It’s usually the first port
1. In case you have the 3 pack (Router + 2 Satellites), is it possible to connect one satellite via ethernet backhaul and the second one wirelessly? If so, is that still recommended over just connecting both wirelessly or both via ethernet?
2. Another thing which I need to clarify is whether I can connect a repeater (any brand) to the network of the Orbi because I need an ethernet access in my basement. The speeds there wouldn't necessarily matter as no other device is connected there. Currently I am having the wifi of my ISP modem which also is a router on just for that specific repeater, no other device would use the wifi network of my modem. I have heard it is better to turn off the modem wifi to not have overlaying networks. I also don't necessarily want to have another satellite just for that one ethernet port in my basement due to the costs of another satellite. What would you recommend to do for this scenario?
Thanks!
1. Yes you can mix and match wired and wireless. Wired everywhere is always preferred. The more you can wire the better.
2. I personally wouldn’t use your router from your modem. I would recommend another satellite or just place a satellite closer and you will most likely get a signal even if not very fast. You can also try one of those Netgear repeaters but I personally don’t use them. I like having my mesh WiFi to be the same throughout so I will get good signal throughout. I would rather get a less expensive system like the to link deco x20 just to get another node that’s the same then get an Orbi set and use a non Orbi. If you’re going wired, deco x20 will work great.
@@landpet Thanks for the prompt response!
Regarding the second point, I was also thinking about using a powerline connection from devolo as I had a set of them lying around in my house. So basically I would connect one of them via Ethernet to the LAN port of my modem router so I can have an Ethernet port available in my basement over powerline.
In either case, is it fine to still use the ethernet ports of the router modem (WiFi would be turned off from it) or is it always better to connect directly to the Ethernet of the Orbis, most likely also using a switch?
@@thanatosLightGM I would connect to the eero or through a switch that is connected to the eero. Powerline should be fine, may lose some speeds though.
Great video so many thanks for all your efforts!
I still can't get my ethernet to work through wall jacks. Wireless works.
I have Orbi with router and 1 Orbi SAT and a switch.
My TV is hardwired to switch and works fine.
There are wall jacks for ethernet but when I connect computer to wall jack it does not work via ethernet - again, wireless works
I tried resetting network stuff like ipconfig, etc. I tried powering all off and restarting - still not working via ethernet (but TV is)
Only message in various resetting that I got was media disconnected error so I tried all solutions suggested on internet but still get same message.
I have modem to Orbi router then Orbi router to switch and also have SAT Orbi connected to the ethernet jack on wall.
Any ideas are greatly appreciated.
I don't know how your ethernets through your walls are connected. If it's ethernet cables going throughout your place, make sure they are all connected to your switch. Ethernet typically doesn't split unless there is a switch or something, so maybe you only have one ethernet jack connected throughout your wall and on the other side, the TV is using it. But the other ports are probably not connected on one side, so when you connect them on the other side, it's just an unconnected ethernet cable. This is my best guess based on the information you've provided. Hopefully that helps.
what about connecting the router to the satellite without the switch can that be done?
Yes
Does the router automatically set for option five or do you need to turn it on in a setting?
It's automatic
@@landpet ty
Let's assume i have 2 internet connection and configured in TP-Link Load balancer ER605 Giga router wan port for fail over. Now From This Load balancer LAN port do connect the lan cable to Orbi main router or in 24Port Non Manageble Switch. All other 3 satellite will be connected through wired LAN connection.
I am confused From TP-Link Loadbalancer LAN port do i connect directly to Orbi router or shall connectivity go through Non Manageble Switch.
Model:- Netgear ORBI RBK854 will be in use.
I have no experience with load balancing routers but here is my guess. I don’t think the order matters, you could connect the switch or the Orbi. You will need to run the Orbi in Access Point Mode, since the load balancer is your main router
I'm wondering if there's a way to permenantly assign the 5g/2.4g? I have devices that need the higher g every time they're used, but keep sending up with the lower g while things like my basic kindle get the 5...
I checked the settings, I don't see a way of choosing which one or changing it. If there is an option, it's not obvious.
If you want something like that, you can get the Asus XT8 for example and you can actually create different SSIDs. Some other mesh systems allow you to do that as well.
@@landpet thank you (wasn't expecting anyone to actually respond to that!). I'll look into what you've said
LOVE THIS VIDEO!! PLEASE HELP ME....i have a netgear orbi ac3000 (RBR50 router and RBS50 satellite) with 1 satellite.the router is in my home and the satellite is in my shop beside my house. i have the router and satellite connected to each other by ethernet cable (backhaul) and the ethernet cable is buried from my house to my shop. my question is, i get 500mb download speed wirelessly in my home where the router is but i only get 90mb download speed tops wirelessly in my shop where the satellite is? can you please tell me why and what i can do to get better speed from the satellite? thank you in advance
Thanks! I'm assuming your performing the speed test with the same device (like your wifi phone or something)? If you're testing it with different devices, let's say you have a computer in your home and your laptop in your shop, make sure your laptop has the capability to go faster. Long story short, please make sure you're performing the speed test with the same wifi device (like your phone or something). If not, make sure the ethernet cable (make sure your ethernet cable is less than 100 meters) is not faulty since you should be getting similar speeds.
Thank you. Very clear and informative. This will be helpful in planning and building my home network.
Glad it was helpful!
Just wanted to double check to make sure that what I saw on your video is possible. I connect my Orbi router to the modem and connect my satellite in the living room wirelessly. I have been connecting my video streaming box wireless WiFi. It looks from the video I can connect my streaming box to the satellite via an Ethernet cord. Is this correct and will this connection be better than relying on wireless wifi signal from the satellite?
Yes that's correct. If you connect a device via Ethernet to the satellite which is wirelessly connected to the main Orbi, that device will have the equivalent speeds as the best possible wifi connection to that satellite. Meaning the connection via Ethernet will be equivalent or better than connecting it via WiFi.
@@landpet thanks for the response. I plan to hook up my Apple TV with this setup
@@chrisklimek5912 That should work
Can a TP link ac1200 re330 connect to an orbi rbr40
Should be able to but it’s not something you control from the Orbi app. You would need to get a separate app for the tp link. This should work but i prefer just to stick with the same brand and model.
I can't run an ethernet to the "extender" so do I need one of the higher end orbis, in other words, my home is 2000 sq ft, do I need the orbi for 4000 sq ft to go wireless?
It depends more on your internet speeds. The more range it offers, typically (not always) you will have less or no wifi dead zones. This RBK752 should be fine, RBK852 should be able to handle faster speeds on wireless backhaul but costs more.
hey, I got the Orbi RBR20 and one satellite, I'm paying a guy to run a 100 ft ethernet to the remote downstairs, but how do I hook the modem to my AT&T Uverse modem/router? Obviously I plug it into one of the 5 ethernet ports, but how do I get my orbi to "take over" the router job? Thank you so much
Great video! I hope you still are active on this thread, because I would really love to know if i can create a subnet for my rental part of the house through the router, dedicating one or two of the ports. I can then use the mesh for the main floor, and have a accesspoint (just cheap ones) though a cable for the rental apartment downstairs. Previously I have just used the wireless guestnettwork, however after changing the floor and adding heating cables, the wireless connection from upstairs is almost gone downstairs.
How can I achieve this setup if it is not possible in the Orbi router. I could maybe buy another router with this possibility, and split the network, using the orbi as a bridge instead of a router?
Thank you in advance!
Thanks!
I don’t have this Orbi anymore so I don’t know. However it’s worth noting that what you’re looking for can be achieved using VLAN. It’s essentially just like changing the subnet mask to allow for another set of IP addresses. Check for that in the settings, you can also get a managed switch to do the same thing or you can get an Asus mesh system that supports that feature as well since Asus typically has the most options from any device.
Can I add an orbi satellite to my eero router via Ethernet?
Only if you run the Orbi in access point mode. It's not the best idea though
can i connect a switch to a switch to a switch to a satellite to a switch and then to the router?
Yes, as long as the router is connected to the modem directly via Ethernet
Hello . I’ve been using an apple router for years . If I wanna upgrade to orbi, is there a way not to have to log into every single device and update it
Use the same SSID (WiFi name) and password as your Apple router on the Orbi. Just a heads up both the SSID and password are case sensitive. It has to be verbatim
@@landpet thanks so much for your quick reply , much appreciated
@@landpet I apologize . One more question. Can I set up a guest network on orbi like I have on apple router now ? Thanks again
I added a second switch to my Orbi RBR50 (one router and one satellite) and ran into some issues. I also have two Orbi Voice I use as extenders. I hard wired two switches with a home run from the router to each switch (one for my upstairs and one for downstairs). Now my ORBI’s will only talk to each other wirelessly and the backhaul does not work. If I connect one of the two ethernet cables to the back of the Orbi router the whole network disconnects. I’m not sure what I did wrong. Any help would be great.
I'm assuming this is your setup:
Modem -> Orbi Router -> 2 Unmanaged Switches -> Orbi Satellite. The Orbi Voices are connected to router or satellite or switch?
Assuming they are an unmanaged switches and they are in the order that I've specified above this type of setup should be fine. Or do you have it wired differently?
@@landpet The Orbi voices are connected to switches with a cat 6 home run. I tried disabling daisy chain on Orbilogin and that brought all the satellites up for a few hours but it crashed overnight. Now my router is Magenta and the internet shows offline.
I would start from scratch, adding one device at a time, running it for a few hours or a day or two. If you go in the order I specified, I believe you should be good unless there is a defective device or defective ethernet cable. Don't rule out a switch either, I actually had a bad switch that would work with some cables and not with others, took some time to figure out it was the switch and not the cables or routers.
Based on the timing of a few hours, this may be network broadcast storm caused by having multiple route paths between router and switches.
Hello . Can I combine older orbi satellites with newer orbi mesh systems?
I'm not sure but I don't believe so.
Do you have to download the orbi app to update these routers?
You can do it on a web browser, orbilogin.com or orbilogin.net on a browser and check for the updates.
How do you manually switch between 2.4mhz and 5mhz? Thank you!!!
I don’t believe there is an option for that unless you create separate SSIDs for the 2.4 and 5GHz. I can’t remember if that’s even possible with this but I believe it was when I had it
@@landpet Thanks
Ditto, thank you for this. I found the answer I was looking for too.
Glad I could help!
Can I straight plug in another router to my existing modem router and use it as different WiFi?
In theory yes, but this router won't have access to devices on the other wifi network.
How do I setup a 2.4g network and a 5g network on one orbit for my smart plugs?
I forget if this one supports it but you would need to go into Orbilogin.com or Orbilogin.net on a computer that’s connected to the network and go through the WiFi options to see if it’s there.
Thank you. You are so helpful and kind.
@@video2010iphone no problem
Does the modem and orbi router have to be in the same room. Can I connect with a 50ft Cat6 cable? Will that slow down anything? Also, is the satellite a wifi access even if I am using the Ethernet ports? Thanks!
Orbi and modem do not have to be in the same room so as long as there is an Ethernet connection between them. Should be fine with a 50 ft cable, shouldn't be a slow down. Satellite can provide access via its wifi antennas and through its Ethernet.
@@landpet Thank you! I appreciate your help! Best Buy has the Orbi 4200 @ pack on sale for $350 today.
Great deal
Great video , I have an AT&T Uverse Router/Modem, I assume we hook up Orbi's router to my AT&T router/modem and disable the "router" functionality" of the router/modem? Thanks for your time.
Thanks! That is correct
I have RBK353. Can I have one satellite wired to the router and the other one in Wifi mode? Also, does the wired one has to be setup via the router or does the router detect it automatically?
Yes you can have one wired and one wireless. You just add it in the app.
@@landpet Thanks. If I wire it up and later on decide to make it WiFi, di I need to add it again or will it be recognised?
Hi, very clear with your explanation. Just a question. Im going to buy a rbk753 kit orbi wifi 6. I will have 1 base and 2 satellites; can i wire only base and ONE satellite?
In my case: ground floor-internet wired to base, and base wired to a switch (it go in all rooms)
First floor: 1st satellite NOT wired with ethernet
Second floor: 2nd satellite wired with ethernet backhaul.
Do you think everything would work correctly, or should i have all satellites wired (not 1 yes and 1 no) ?
Thanks, you can mix and match wired and wireless backhaul so that will work just fine
@@landpet thanks for reply! How does Satellite on first floor (not wired) communicate with base (wired, ground floor) and 2nd satellite (wired backhaul eth, 2nd floor)? Only with base or also with upper satellite via third band (if connection with base at ground floor go bad)?
great explanation- any ideas on how to deal with the rbr750 dropping connections and not connecting to 5g when devices are well within range? thanks
Thanks, check for firmware updates, aside from that it may just be a software bug or you may have a faulty unit. Best to ask Netgear for something like that
@@landpet thank you for the reply- my system is still in warranty but out of tech support contract so they made me purchase a 3-month support contract to trouble shoot- took them 1.5 hours and eventually we rolled back the firmware two versions- we'll see if that helps.
Wow epic vid, but ive got a question
If you got a virgin media router, and you usually use that. And want to get this.
Would u use the virgin media router as the modem
And also i pay a monthly fee for that internet with virgin, would i still have to pay it if i make it into a modem or can i cancel that plan
Thanks. You need a modem or ONT or something similar to provide internet access. So if your virgin media router is a modem/router combo, you would need to use it but would disable the router portion of it by going to the settings and disabling it or placing it in bridge mode. You need to still pay for internet access assuming you wanted internet access.
@@landpet tysm i appreciate your help
This is a great video thanks for the lesson. This might sound like a dumb question but if I have my satellites in different rooms (the are currently connected wirelessly) how do I connect them via Ethernet cable? I don’t want to see a long cable just running from room to room. Is there another way?
Most people run cables inside the walls, so it's not exactly an easy solution therefore wireless backhaul is the easy solution. This thing actually provides fairly good wireless backhaul speeds, you can also go with the absurdly expensive Netgear Orbi RBKE963 and that one works very well with wireless backhaul also.
Excellent video and helpful.
Thanks
Thank you for covering everything, very educational
No problem