I put Barcelona and Real Madrid in the Premier League

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • Welcome to TomFM! In today's Football Manager 2023 experiment video I put Barcelona and Real Madrid in the Premier League to see how the two Spanish giants would get on in England, in FM21
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  • @bababababababa6124
    @bababababababa6124 Рік тому +211

    Everton casually in the bottom half of the table qualifying for UCL 😂 6:39
    That means they must’ve won the FA cup, then the Europa League, then got UCL. I know Everton fans would kill for that right now 😂

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  Рік тому +29

      An insane set of circumstances!

    • @mnm5165
      @mnm5165 Рік тому +2

      No way that happens IRL though

    • @calnfl5747
      @calnfl5747 Рік тому +4

      Can confirm, am an Everton fan who would chop off their left bollock for that to happen.

    • @prodfalling
      @prodfalling Рік тому +1

      i would do ungodly things for that amount of success. our board have ruined our club

    • @mynamehereyo
      @mynamehereyo Рік тому

      As a Everton fan. Hell yeah better than what we have now

  • @watadam1992
    @watadam1992 Рік тому +6

    Love Tenerife casually finishing 3rd in the final La Liga season.

  • @StewartForsyth
    @StewartForsyth Рік тому +11

    I think Southampton and Leicester are proving that the Premier League is massively overrated in FM.
    The issue isn't even with the best players - I'd argue they're all rated correctly. The issue is with the squad players who are much, much better than they are in reality. A few points off their CA and PA to match reality would balance the Premier League out compared to the rest of Europe. It won't stop the best teams from still being the best, but it'll fix the rest of them in Europe.

    • @mnm5165
      @mnm5165 Рік тому +7

      Those two had no business doing that well in La Liga, they would get absolutely battered

    • @Hugh.G.Rectionx
      @Hugh.G.Rectionx Рік тому

      @@mnm5165 bottom half la liga teams are about as good as average championship teams so this makes sense

    • @FlyingSandile
      @FlyingSandile Рік тому

      They are not too overrated I think, Premier League is juat filthy rich/strong

    • @StewartForsyth
      @StewartForsyth Рік тому +2

      @@FlyingSandile It's rich, but I don't agree that all the teams are strong - Leicester and Southampton have been terrible this year, yet the game thinks (without Premier League money or reputation to help them) they're both solid La Liga sides. That just isn't true.
      As I said, the issue isn't with the 'good' players, it's with the squad players that are far better than they are in reality. SI/the FM scouts has always historically had a bias towards the Premier League (and certain other teams outside it) which means it always overperforms reality. How othen have you seen the Champions League winners be English team after English team for years? Again, that doesn't reflect what actually happens.
      There just needs to be a bit of balancing, and for someone at SI to take an objective view of their scout's reports and fix a bit of the bias that they currently have.

    • @charlierennie9192
      @charlierennie9192 Рік тому

      @@StewartForsyth if you simulated like 10 normal prem season with Leicester and Southampton in them then in a few of them they’d probably do quite well and get around mid table. Probably a similar case if you redid the actual prem season irl again. Everyone knows Leicester’s squad is way too good for relegation and Southampton have very good young players. La liga is also definitely not near the prem in terms of depth of quality especially towards the lower end so for Leicester and Southampton to get upper mid table and challenge for fringe European spots isn’t that weird at all tbh.

  • @MarcArrowsmith
    @MarcArrowsmith Рік тому +6

    Does having Spanish based teams in the EPL affect their operating costs at all? Having to fly backwards and forwards to the UK every other week can't be cheap.

    • @perrymanso6841
      @perrymanso6841 Рік тому

      Do you really think this is a big operating costs?
      By the way, do you think this teams don't take flights to play La Liga ???

  • @GreekSkii
    @GreekSkii Рік тому +2

    It would be interesting to know they’re youth recruitment was now being based in England.

  • @Iiridon
    @Iiridon Рік тому +2

    I’m an arsenal fan but even I had to laugh at arsenal winning four champions leagues in a row

  • @hectorae86
    @hectorae86 Рік тому

    Next up put Ajax in the Premier League but....
    Make it Ajax with the best players from the past 5 years (which would simulate what Ajax could be if it could hold on to its best players).
    So, Ziyech, Alvarez, Blind, De Ligt, De Jong, Antony, Mazraoui, Haller and Onana would still be at Ajax for example.

  • @cheeliang_cl
    @cheeliang_cl Рік тому

    9:49 pep guardiola arena 😂

  • @iainb2316
    @iainb2316 Рік тому

    Hi Tom, any plans to do a career save. Loved the Aberdeen “On the rocks” save. 😀

  • @andylindress
    @andylindress Рік тому

    Great idea.. Can you please explain how you change the teams in the editor? Really stuck?
    Thanks
    Andy

  • @_swiper_the_fox_
    @_swiper_the_fox_ Рік тому

    You should have put Southampton and Leicester in there with RM and Barcelona and see if they would reach anywhere

  • @fahadapnsteiger9029
    @fahadapnsteiger9029 Рік тому

    If Barca and Madrid plays in the EPL
    It will become a Farmers league with Man City competing for the 2nd spot

  • @johnace91
    @johnace91 Рік тому

    This has to be the 3rd time you've done this experiment. Definitely seen this video before

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  Рік тому

      I've done Celtic and Rangers a couple times before, and some similar Tik Tok's, but never these teams on UA-cam!

  • @fredgoncalves3315
    @fredgoncalves3315 Рік тому

    10 teams qualifying for Europe in season9!

  • @goldenlaker
    @goldenlaker Рік тому

    What type of squad view do you use to look at the current ability and club??

  • @bubassvaba6221
    @bubassvaba6221 Рік тому +1

    How do you move clubs to other leauges?

  • @flvkdl1504
    @flvkdl1504 Рік тому

    Hi tom, could you try pumping money into the singapore premier league. As a fan of the channel from singapore im always curious how that would turn out. Especially when our local football isn’t that great

    • @jiyefuuu
      @jiyefuuu Рік тому

      U can do that urself but it won't do much, players don't wanna sign

  • @phatmeow7764
    @phatmeow7764 Рік тому

    tbh i feel a dutch+belgian league merger would be far more realistic and beneficial for both parties?

  • @uzaydonmez3644
    @uzaydonmez3644 Рік тому

    How do you simulate all these years, how many hours does it take?

  • @needfoolthings
    @needfoolthings Рік тому

    "Lou and Owsky"?

  • @latvianball18
    @latvianball18 9 місяців тому

    fardin would be really mad bc of real sociedad

  • @contezw
    @contezw Рік тому

    Man City losing 6/7 games in a league season? This simulator is broken...

  • @notmaldonado
    @notmaldonado Рік тому

    Can you make the European super league
    With the best 92 teams in the english system

  • @MahmoudChaar-t8k
    @MahmoudChaar-t8k Рік тому

    How do u do that?

  • @samoc235
    @samoc235 Рік тому

    What league is everyone managing in?

  • @TootingKarmoon
    @TootingKarmoon Рік тому

    Where can get this game free?

  • @peheoli6353
    @peheoli6353 Рік тому

    whyd you wanna relegate chelsea bro

  • @MalikSehovic
    @MalikSehovic Рік тому +2

    Barca on top

  • @lilwild2412
    @lilwild2412 Рік тому

    4 UCL in a row for Arsenal ❤

  • @omonoiaaionia
    @omonoiaaionia Рік тому

    Give cyprus 1B moneyyy🇨🇾🇨🇾🇨🇾

  • @beckyzwhite
    @beckyzwhite Рік тому

    Place Celtic and Rangers into the Premier League, if you haven’t done so already. I can do with a laugh.

  • @SAMURAININJAMONK
    @SAMURAININJAMONK Рік тому

    PUT THE PREMIER LEAGUE IN THE UCL

  • @diazosta
    @diazosta Рік тому

    Great

  • @gapend5952
    @gapend5952 Рік тому

    can someone help me to load up the 1998 mod? I have downloaded it and it shows up on football manager, but it doesn’t show anything on how to load up a game with the mod, help please!

  • @hansonkay9047
    @hansonkay9047 Рік тому

    Arsenal!!!!!

  • @ultrademigod
    @ultrademigod Рік тому

    My takeaway from all this is that FM is broken

  • @RobaMostarRoba
    @RobaMostarRoba Рік тому

    Just shows you how Barca is cheating the system in La Liga, signing 20 players per window when they are in huge debt lol

  • @kamalgautam5744
    @kamalgautam5744 Рік тому

    This simulation is absolute garbage. Not in one season did man united qualify for CL.

  • @davidvasey5065
    @davidvasey5065 Рік тому

    Your girlfriend's really pretty tom

  • @rhinodragon
    @rhinodragon Рік тому +112

    So apparently moving real and Barcelona to the prem makes arsenal a monster in the champions league. That I love to see

    • @mnm5165
      @mnm5165 Рік тому +3

      The butterfly effect is crazy 😂

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  Рік тому +4

      Their team was class! Knockout specialists

    • @Pikachu0071000CS
      @Pikachu0071000CS Рік тому +2

      please tell me you're from the future mate

  • @benjitosdelplatas
    @benjitosdelplatas Рік тому +34

    That's weird as it's the opposite in real life, Barcelona flying in Laliga and Madrid in the ucl.

  • @igorwatorowski7063
    @igorwatorowski7063 Рік тому +37

    The Problem here is that Madrid and Barca Likely can't register all of their players because of homegrown problems. Also how did Real Madrid draw Barca in the Round of 16 at 5:00 ? isn't that not possible?

    • @reintaler6355
      @reintaler6355 Рік тому

      Maybe it'll be scrapped as part of the overall format change?

  • @crimson1453
    @crimson1453 Рік тому +283

    The Premier league is definitely overrated on FM.

    • @bababababababa6124
      @bababababababa6124 Рік тому +78

      Yeah there is no way in hell that Southampton and Leicester would be anywhere near the top 4 in La Liga If we’re being honest

    • @mnm5165
      @mnm5165 Рік тому +15

      @@bababababababa6124 they had no business being there 😂they would get battered

    • @xenon8342
      @xenon8342 Рік тому +27

      ​@@bababababababa6124 other than atleti, barca and real, la liga is REEEEEEALLLY weak

    • @crimson1453
      @crimson1453 Рік тому

      @@xenon8342 So weak that Villareal reached the semis in the champions league last year. So weak that teams like Sevilla have battered others in the Europa league, including Man U. Get out of my face PL suck off.

    • @crimson1453
      @crimson1453 Рік тому +14

      @Dan SouthLondon Talk to me when your league has more champions league trophies than La Liga.

  • @salomediatheque
    @salomediatheque Рік тому +47

    4:43 actually Barça also have Frenkie de Jong at 183

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  Рік тому +6

      Oops, I missed that! Great spot!

  • @art3mis02
    @art3mis02 Рік тому +94

    Video suggestion: top 3-5 teams from the top 5 leagues get put into the same league, we can truly see what team would be the best on paper then.

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  Рік тому +53

      A real Super League 👀

    • @art3mis02
      @art3mis02 Рік тому +12

      @@TomFM and an extra idea on top of it I just thought of now if you want to fill out the rest of the slots, take the top team from the next few leagues and put them into that same league as well

    • @tombo416
      @tombo416 Рік тому +5

      Isn’t that basically what the champions league does anyway lol

    • @Grabarz23
      @Grabarz23 Рік тому +3

      @@TomFM If i remember correctly to one of last Fm's i believe it started from 2017 ... someone created a Super Ligue 30 or 34 TOP reputation clubs smashed together with
      i found it - World Super League (WSL) for FM22

    • @rome4210
      @rome4210 Рік тому +1

      That is superleague 😅

  • @TheMrKrist
    @TheMrKrist Рік тому +6

    Video suggestion:
    Put everyone from the Championship to the second league tier one of the top 5 league and see after years how clubs are doing. In reverse we could see how clubs from second tier they got into the premier league/league one. Could be several episodes :D

  • @nandinobeils9364
    @nandinobeils9364 Рік тому +6

    Would it be possible to do this with the best belgian teams? I know they will not get far but it would be funny 😁

  • @MrJagger112
    @MrJagger112 Рік тому +2

    When you end up last in the Premier League and still get as much money as the winner in La Liga ofc the leagues are going to be unbalanced to each other. Premier League teams are massively overpaid.

  • @NexoProTC
    @NexoProTC Рік тому +3

    Would that be interesting to make a video where you explain the European Cups Group Stage reform for the 2024/25 season with the help of FM23. For example, you record the group stage draws for UCL, UEL and UECL and explain how it works etc...
    I'm not sure I've explained it well and if it's understandable but hopefully you'll see what I mean

  • @tagteamchampions
    @tagteamchampions Рік тому +5

    I love seeing Villarreal doing well in these sims.

  • @NormanConquest66
    @NormanConquest66 Рік тому +3

    Interesting idea for a video, not sure how viable it is though. What would happen if each premier league club was managed but one of its former players? Kompany at City, Boa Morte at Fulham etc

    • @kennardjon
      @kennardjon Рік тому

      I had the same idea! Trying to only use players who were legends at the club. Chelsea - Lampard, Arsenal -Vieira or Henry, Man U - Rooney or Van Nistelrooy, Liverpool - Gerrard, but some of them you might have to add to the database. Like Matt Le Tissier for Southampton. It would be fun to see who lasts longest and who goes on to have the best career.

  • @Toboloco
    @Toboloco Рік тому +9

    I only just discovered your channel and I love it 😁 I love these FM experiments

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  Рік тому +2

      Welcome aboard!

  • @themrpandapad1130
    @themrpandapad1130 Рік тому +2

    Can you do a video with a team that you edit the stats so they have 20 for big matches compared to 1 for big matches

  • @Eliasfc0
    @Eliasfc0 Рік тому +1

    How do u show their CA?

  • @orange-uu1tw
    @orange-uu1tw Рік тому +1

    how to move team?

  • @oleksandrsuglobov8563
    @oleksandrsuglobov8563 Рік тому +1

    Why I always see in such type of experiments when Premire League claimed 8 or more Europe places? I saw here 6 Champions league places one, insane.
    I know it is possible when 2 teams outside of top-4 won Champions league and Europe League, but in that case place #4 usually drop to Earope League, so that just makes no sense.

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  Рік тому

      It's the new UEFA rules coming in 2024. The top 2 nations by UEFA coefficient (usually England and Spain) will get a 5th spot for the team with the highest UEFA coefficient who didn't qualify for the Champions League. Essentially a way to keep some of the clubs who were going to start the Super League happy. And then that 6th place would have been a team qualifying as they won another European tournament.

    • @oleksandrsuglobov8563
      @oleksandrsuglobov8563 Рік тому

      @@TomFM damn it. Interesting, and I did not know that. Thanks for clarification

  • @atko92
    @atko92 Рік тому +1

    That second season was incredible with 4 teams within a point (and a couple GD) of winning the title. Even down to 6th was a title challenge. Would have been the best season in history if it was true!

  • @Majsztr0
    @Majsztr0 Рік тому +1

    how do you change a clubs league?

  • @TricksterBloom
    @TricksterBloom Рік тому +1

    Could I maybe make a suggestion for an experiment video? Swapping clubs across continents! Like for example, what would happen if you swapped the English and Brazilian teams? Would the English teams dominate the Copa Libertadores? Would the Brazilian teams even manage to compete in the UCL? And what would the transfers be like? Thats something I'd always thought would be interesting, and if you wanted to do it on a lower scale, how about swapping Scotland and USA? Anyway, love your experiment videos, they're always so well edited and put together, thankyou!

  • @piotrwoejko5857
    @piotrwoejko5857 Рік тому +1

    Crazy how Barca can win anything in the play offs in Europe, while irl they have no idea how to do it xD

  • @remmidemmi496
    @remmidemmi496 Рік тому +1

    Can you do a retro UCL and UEFA Cup with just the Champions qualifying for UCL and the others for UeFA Cup? I wish it would go back to that System in real life too. 😢

  • @idiakosesunday3806
    @idiakosesunday3806 Рік тому +1

    How does stuff like homegrown and stuff work here?

  • @forplaint_ru
    @forplaint_ru Рік тому

    Now put P$G there. They will not finish higher than 10th. What a joke of a team

  • @mmmcounts
    @mmmcounts Рік тому +1

    Video idea! Simulate what happens if Catalonia gains independence and establishes a separate league (which is what they'll have to do) and, this is important, if Barcelona moves to Ligue 1. What's left for the brand new Catalan league? Does La Liga stay in the top 3 long term? How well does Barca do in the French league? And most importantly, how does this new Catalan league do in the long term when you simulate several decades into the future? Do they ever get to a point where they qualify 3 or 4 teams to the Champions League? The Catalonians have some real money, and they also produce an insane amount of talent. Would the Catalan league match the quality of the Netherlands? Belgium? Would they do even better?
    That's the scenario. Catalan independence, and Barcelona to Ligue 1. How does that play out?

    • @MiroHeinonen
      @MiroHeinonen Рік тому

      And what about a separate Flemish league and a separate Walloon league after a hypothetical split of Belgium? Of the Brussels-Capital Region-based teams, Anderlecht would be put to the Flemish league and Union Saint-Gilloise to the Walloon league. Multiple Walloon teams have to be taken from lower tiers of Belgian football.

  • @jasjitsingh7366
    @jasjitsingh7366 Рік тому

    include juve, milan, inter, roma, napoli, bayern, dortmund, psg, marseille, lyon, leipzig, newcastle, porto, ajax to the existing top 6 of pl and make a league

  • @malligrub
    @malligrub Рік тому

    Lol, winning the Prem with 83 points and City suddenly getting 79 points in a season? Kai Havertz winning the golden boot and scoring 23 goals while Haaland gets 19 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @emineselinilengiz
    @emineselinilengiz 9 місяців тому

    100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 for Real Madrid and fc Barcelona

  • @MartiniScreamz
    @MartiniScreamz Рік тому

    It's Ruben Selles he's a la Liga manager....he tries to play Spanish football with Southampton and it got us relegated but he might be successful in la liga

  • @twenty-2923
    @twenty-2923 Рік тому

    Real and Barca would have no problem in the premier league
    Real and Barca / la liga own English clubs and prem is overrated
    La liga is a sleeper league

  • @Sempapax
    @Sempapax Рік тому

    Well, Barcelona is evidently decaying rn no? Aren’t they because of the debt?

  • @semir9112
    @semir9112 Рік тому

    How to know FM is bollocks? Arsenal winning a Champions League.

  • @FlatMetal22
    @FlatMetal22 Рік тому

    4:49
    Pedri was not barca best player at 176 because frenkie is at 183

  • @raulalonso7560
    @raulalonso7560 Рік тому

    nah they didnt make the championsleague final cuz they gave alaba #7

  • @Vikash0125
    @Vikash0125 Рік тому

    Wth, Arsenal and Barca winning UCL and Real winning leagues

  • @reyess.ortegaa
    @reyess.ortegaa Рік тому

    If Man City were in La Liga or the Serie A, their players stats wouldn’t be as high 🥱

  • @1greenMitsi
    @1greenMitsi Рік тому

    have they had it too easy in spain? - (sevilla knocks man u out of europe 3-0)

  • @mikelcito8898
    @mikelcito8898 Рік тому

    Alternative tiltle,Barça and Madrid switch places in the PL

  • @pawekubinski9923
    @pawekubinski9923 Рік тому

    Can i download editor file some where? I would like to play barca in prem

  • @abiolaolayinka2023
    @abiolaolayinka2023 Рік тому

    Did I hear you say "World class player in Upamecano"? 💀

  • @random-ic2mc
    @random-ic2mc Рік тому

    Barca beating Bayern and Madrid can't win a UCL is crazy 💀💀

  • @Riki7_204
    @Riki7_204 Рік тому

    Give all europe league big tv deal same as premiere league and see 100 years

  • @MichalZajezierski
    @MichalZajezierski Рік тому

    I really think Premier League is overrated here.

  • @thevictoriafallsredbulls9710

    FM is biased towards English teams.

  • @kaydenbennett2989
    @kaydenbennett2989 Рік тому +1

    Hey Tom playing as Rochdale in the prem my affiliate are Lincoln currently they sit second In the championship

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  Рік тому

      Oh my word, up the IMPS!

  • @sirtonyholohan69
    @sirtonyholohan69 Рік тому

    Why do you pronounce the word 6th as sict?

  • @reyess.ortegaa
    @reyess.ortegaa Рік тому

    The most overrated league in the world.

  • @gentlemendesperado9790
    @gentlemendesperado9790 Рік тому

    1 champions league no question.

  • @murtiigulgen
    @murtiigulgen Рік тому

    2:33 Arda Güler 🇹🇷💙💛

  • @Tiswki_Energy
    @Tiswki_Energy Рік тому

    what stie called ?

  • @chloeperezpicado7320
    @chloeperezpicado7320 Рік тому

    What game are you playing

  • @OwenGray-xw6uc
    @OwenGray-xw6uc Рік тому

    what skin do you use?

  • @duyhoangnguyen3556
    @duyhoangnguyen3556 Рік тому

    Arsenal dream 😂

  • @AndyHackett07
    @AndyHackett07 Рік тому

    Great video

  • @sMuDgeML9230
    @sMuDgeML9230 Рік тому

    you know it`s really a simulation if ARSENAL won a CL :D

  • @Rickus316
    @Rickus316 Рік тому

    La liga is no where near as competitive as the Prem

    • @macwis_gang7309
      @macwis_gang7309 Рік тому

      😂😂😂in ur dreams you guys loos to laliga in Europe every time

  • @nickysturzu
    @nickysturzu Рік тому

    Since Celtic and Glasgow Rangers wanted to join the Premier League, but the FA didn't accept them, how about you do it instead? Since the Scottish Premiership is basically only two teams in regards to the title, put them in the Premier League, let's see how they do for a few decades. Just saying...

  • @janembabel
    @janembabel Рік тому

    Man, this is a complain I ever have with FM. Premier Leage is overpowered in every aspect, is a game that is built around England.

  • @luisespinoza3877
    @luisespinoza3877 Рік тому

    FM probably the only place where Prem teams out do spanish teams in champions league titles. Guess they got to do what makes their fantasy seem “real”

  • @AKUNJIG
    @AKUNJIG Рік тому

    Imagine being a Reál or Barça fan in the 51/52 Season. The Banter will go on forever.

  • @rishavkunwar8813
    @rishavkunwar8813 Рік тому

    With all the money, Man city fans must get to FIFA and FM to see their club win UCL