Will this even work today? (Cisco AGS, 10Base5, 10Base2 and Starlink)

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @davidbombal
    @davidbombal  14 днів тому +9

    In this video I connect a Cisco AGS+ to 10base5, 10base2 and Starlink! A crazy project, but a lot of fun. I also get a Windows 3.11 computer to ping the internet through Thicknet and Thinnet and UTP networks.
    Is this tech older than you?
    Huge thanks to Dave Mayberry from Go Communication for loaning me the router used for demonstration purposes in this video.
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    0:00 - Celebrating 40 Years of Cisco
    0:12 - Cisco AGS routers // "The OG of Routers"
    01:07 - Connecting old routers to the internet
    01:53 - Intro
    02:08 - Connecting components // 10BASE2 network
    05:15 - Running commands and configurations of the AGS // Connecting to the internet
    08:02 - Issues with old tech // Troubleshooting
    11:31 - 10BASE5 network using 386 laptop using Windows 3.11
    12:56 - The purpose of terminators
    16:00 - Connecting Starlink to the network
    19:28 - Network summary
    19:46 - Conclusion
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  • @andririan6342
    @andririan6342 14 днів тому +21

    The cisco terminal never changed too much since then, mind blowing

    • @davidbombal
      @davidbombal  14 днів тому +5

      Agreed. Almost exactly the same 😀

    • @andljoy
      @andljoy 14 днів тому

      Indeed , if only windows did that too :)

    • @randomdude1053
      @randomdude1053 8 днів тому

      Wow true. Very cool especially as a networking student.

  • @Dingocreek
    @Dingocreek 14 днів тому +11

    You really take me way back to the time when I started with my networking career in 1995. I worked twice on an AGS, but I have supported a small network with 42 x 2503 routers with 64k diginet lines on the WAN side with ISDN for load balancing and backup purposes. I have build a 110 x 2620 routers network for a bank, with 3600s on the backbone.
    I liked payload compression over frame-relay, because it was less resource intensive on the smaller routers. The largest network I worked on had just over 1300 sites and I was one of the network architects on the AT&T network, called AGNS.

  • @Ayahuaska8
    @Ayahuaska8 14 днів тому +4

    I really had fun watching these old devices working like charm again. Thanks!

  • @davidhingst7063
    @davidhingst7063 9 днів тому +1

    You are running that modern IOS 10 on the AGS. I started on early IOS 9. Only classfull routing! Thanks for the throwback!

  • @perlind393
    @perlind393 14 днів тому +1

    That was a flash back to old days ....... Love it !!!! the days of "YOU NEED TO KNOW" and you can't jerry rigit you need to know this stuff

  • @DNETREAPER
    @DNETREAPER 14 днів тому +1

    Love mixing Old school with new School !

  • @knight2000-NC
    @knight2000-NC 14 днів тому +1

    10:47 looks like you had an opportunity to do the old school Control-shif-6 x deal to break out of the hung command

  • @flyingscotsman3278
    @flyingscotsman3278 14 днів тому

    This is brilliant retro kit. David many thanks

  • @gonzalonicolas2861
    @gonzalonicolas2861 14 днів тому

    This is awesome David!! Thank you very much for this, I was watching it yesterday with my coworkers and we really enjoyed it.

  • @MichaelFaber-p4j
    @MichaelFaber-p4j 14 днів тому

    Thank you, David! Your awesome. The best.

  • @401_kb
    @401_kb 14 днів тому

    Its really good to see that old devices are can be used this day

  • @djdawso
    @djdawso 14 днів тому

    Quite a walk down memory lane for me. I got into networking just as Cisco was releasing their first routers so I spent a lot of time working on them when I was working at Cray Research back in the day. In the AGC (and CGS) the Config Register was configured with physical jumpers on the main processor board of the router, and router firmware was upgrade by swapping a bunch (10 - 12, I think) large chips on that board. I also think IOS 10.x was before "tab-?" existed, so you had to mostly remember the commands and keep the printed manuals nearby. And the physical interface plates (cisco called them "appliques") were separate from the interface boards so you had to swap them in addition to the interface controller board. The AGS was quite a flexible little router and I have (mostly) fond memories of them. Thanks for the great video, David, and for showing that the AGS line isn't quite extinct yet!

  • @johnbaldwin143
    @johnbaldwin143 14 днів тому

    Just excellent! Well worth the time to watch. Thanks David.

  • @74_Green
    @74_Green 14 днів тому +2

    My upper school had one of those Cisco routers ~88/89, I think it had a 9600 baud connection?!? can't quite remember. But we thought we were so cool sending messages from one workstation to another in the classroom! lol

    • @davidbombal
      @davidbombal  14 днів тому

      Very cool!

    • @btsr2553
      @btsr2553 14 днів тому

      The default setting of today's Cisco devices is still 9600 baud. Manufacturers are reluctant to give up some of the old habits.

  • @GAKtion64
    @GAKtion64 14 днів тому

    Amazing how complicated all this stuff was back then. although, it would also be interesting to see how well this router handles an old school lan party. Quake, half life, and such.

  • @hgmyyt
    @hgmyyt 14 днів тому

    interesting to see old equipment like that, very good demo thanks

  • @majiddehbi9186
    @majiddehbi9186 14 днів тому

    thx David to remind us the great event for all wht this comany have done and still for networkin and Internet happy birthday for Cisco and thx one more time for u

  • @AndreuPinel
    @AndreuPinel 14 днів тому +1

    In those times, when dinosaurs ruled the world 🦖 ... If someone had told us by then: "in the future, communications between computers will be done using light signals instead of electric pulses, routers will be smaller than a shoe-box and hubs will evolve into a new spieces called switches, and they'll be so smart that they will send each package to its destination only, instead of to every port"... we would've probably thrown that poor bastard into the flames.
    My first LAN was mounted with two 10B2 NICs that my father brought from his office, connected one to each other without a hub using the ring topology instead of the star one. I will never forget the first days after, sharing folders instead of having to use the iomega ZIP disks, or even sharing the printer, playing warcraft 2 and duke-nukem 3D through the IPX protocol... Those moments were recorded on my mind with a laser, and the wow effect lasted for months, only comparable with the day my father brought our first computer: the Sinclair zx spectrum 48.
    PS: The moment when the fan starts making noise and David has to raise his voice reminds me of Troy McClure saying/shouting : "are you sure the squeezer is on??? I don't hear anything!!!"

  • @bernardgarrett3897
    @bernardgarrett3897 14 днів тому +1

    How much did the AGS cost when new?

  • @ToxicwasteProductions
    @ToxicwasteProductions 7 днів тому

    I feel like clabretro would love this router

  • @btsr2553
    @btsr2553 14 днів тому

    Dear David, thank you so much. A great classic video. I started my career with networks at the end of the 80s. But this Cisco system had not yet come under my fingers or eyes. But I would never have doubted that it would not work to connect with it to the internet.
    I always hated yellow backbone installations. It was almost always the problems with the terminators at the cable ends.
    But what strikes me is that the system from the 80's boots up faster than many of today's Cisco systems. I wonder if this is due to their current open and already fixed bugs?
    Please keep up the fantastic work. A hearty "Servus" from an otherwise silent subscriber from Bavaria.

  • @Theggamer
    @Theggamer 14 днів тому

    Intresting video its handy to learn how things worked.

    • @davidbombal
      @davidbombal  14 днів тому

      Glad to hear that you enjoyed the video!

  • @scottdrobina5278
    @scottdrobina5278 13 днів тому

    amazing, thank you David!

  • @JRBlood
    @JRBlood 14 днів тому

    W4WG and DOS 6.22, you took the easy route (pun intended). :D You and I both know the pain involved with getting an IP stack working under DOS 5, 4, or even 3. Lets not forget about installing Trumpet WinSock to get Windows 3.x "on the 'net" with Mosaic.
    Remembering how tough it use to be just to get a LAN network working, then adding a router to access the Internet makes us all appreciate what we have now. :)

  • @gamereditor59ner22
    @gamereditor59ner22 14 днів тому +1

    Cool! Thank you!

  • @haonnoah
    @haonnoah 8 днів тому

    It just goes to show that the ethernet standard (RJ45) was not the first take and the networking stack, can be stacked.

  • @ukcbtv
    @ukcbtv 14 днів тому

    10base2 was a p.i.t.a although the very last job I did with it utilised an EAD 'make before break' wall socket and drop cable system which was quite robust and the install was in use for about ten years issue-free before going over to UTP. When I retired from the industry in 2020, a couple of sites still had a few old coax links running! Nice to see the old retro stuff - perhaps do something with Type 1 token ring and old passive MAUs. Cheers.

  • @DailyTuna
    @DailyTuna 14 днів тому

    The 80s where the music was great, and the routers were big
    That came out the same year the police had their synchronicity tour

  • @markarca6360
    @markarca6360 13 днів тому

    The U.S. NSFNET used these routers in the early 1990s.

  • @noddy0607
    @noddy0607 14 днів тому

    So as a young Network Admin. When was Token Ring a thing? Do you have a video on that?

  • @Jerrec
    @Jerrec 3 дні тому

    The interface is up, because the AUI connector sees the 10BASE2 adapter. You should have taken away the adapter too.

  • @DIGITAL_WORLD213
    @DIGITAL_WORLD213 12 днів тому

    I can't imagine, but WoW David ❤🎉

  • @dakahuna
    @dakahuna 14 днів тому

    The first router I ever configured was an AGS+ ..

  • @ehsnils
    @ehsnils 14 днів тому

    I would liked if you had used one of the serial ports on the 2500 by adding another router with serial port and either a null modem cable or a pair of V.35 modems.
    Even cooler would have been if you had an Eripax unit too and used MML to configure it.

  • @bobanmilisavljevic7857
    @bobanmilisavljevic7857 14 днів тому

    Happy birthday Cisco 🥳🫡

  • @Radical9535
    @Radical9535 14 днів тому

    You should do one on how to configure modern servers! Just a recomendation.

  • @sufiyansawri9397
    @sufiyansawri9397 10 днів тому

    i don't know what are you doing But i love your video. good job.

  • @formula1013
    @formula1013 6 днів тому

    Is starlink now available in South Africa

  • @Zodiacgaming71
    @Zodiacgaming71 10 днів тому

    Just sign up on your website, and i was trying to watch free lessons, but it keeps saying that i have to enroll in the course to unlock

  • @ArieKieser
    @ArieKieser 14 днів тому

    This is Awesome!

  • @ikkuranus
    @ikkuranus 8 днів тому

    Can you run 10-base T without the T connector and just plug the cable directly into it?

  • @peacekeeper556
    @peacekeeper556 13 днів тому

    This best video in my life I watched 🎉

  • @0558tidyboy
    @0558tidyboy 14 днів тому

    This was a really nice video.

  • @chirudiviti
    @chirudiviti 14 днів тому +2

    Sir can you make a video on complete installation of blackarch full file dual boot , and errors in keyring

  • @marianvelez1553
    @marianvelez1553 14 днів тому +2

    I hate Fiasco so bad... It's the worse overated product, with the lowest RoI ever in the invetion of everything, plus it has the most overpriced ""knowledge degree"" any criminal mastermind would ever come across... ever... Yet, this video is freaking awesome!

  • @mohamedelashry00
    @mohamedelashry00 13 днів тому

    wow, i like it.. thank you engineer! ♥♥

  • @jkinkamo
    @jkinkamo 13 днів тому

    Thanks!

  • @lanealucy
    @lanealucy 5 днів тому

    Its so hard to find 10base5 part's in Germany that don't cost your firstborn....

  • @pauldusa
    @pauldusa 14 днів тому

    88 I was working for Ampex corp in Redwood City Ca

  • @timballam3675
    @timballam3675 14 днів тому +1

    The Cisco routers will outlast starlink!

    • @davidbombal
      @davidbombal  14 днів тому

      I think a lot of people would agree with you 😂

    • @la_sn3ak3r19
      @la_sn3ak3r19 14 днів тому

      We shall see

  • @MoveTrueRecords_
    @MoveTrueRecords_ 13 днів тому

    Hey David can you do a from scratch CML full course? i feel like some of the guides move to fast. I feel like you should make a new series for 2025. Thank you

  • @parheliaa
    @parheliaa 13 днів тому

    Next: Watching YT on a host with IPX stack

  • @aayushbartaula-uq8vc
    @aayushbartaula-uq8vc 14 днів тому

    It's Amazing

  • @randomdude1053
    @randomdude1053 8 днів тому

    Wow CDP existed back then!

  • @Nathan15038
    @Nathan15038 14 днів тому

    I wonder how it would be gaming with it, or like playing the new "triple A" online games. Or maybe even running AI or a NAS.😂

  • @brianodanga8643
    @brianodanga8643 14 днів тому +1

    If you think Bombal is a Goat leave a like

  • @sabarishd05
    @sabarishd05 14 днів тому

    🎉

  • @DougB-i3b
    @DougB-i3b 12 днів тому

    Wow man we're getting old

  • @ByteBite101
    @ByteBite101 14 днів тому

    I try to make my videos as explanatory as yours🔥

  • @TarunDesign
    @TarunDesign 13 днів тому

    as i watch you sir i get a good knowledge and sir can you give what to do in the 2025 i will vey exited for it

  • @woritsez
    @woritsez 14 днів тому

    could of finished with a mic drop

  • @ZaheerKhan-z2u2u
    @ZaheerKhan-z2u2u 14 днів тому

    Wow❤❤❤❤

  • @QuantumStudyIQ
    @QuantumStudyIQ 10 днів тому

    Can you please make a video on how to install blackarchlinux as dual boot using bootable pendrive please 🥺

  • @Belkacemnotafraid
    @Belkacemnotafraid 14 днів тому +1

    first like and comment

  • @bestyav5529
    @bestyav5529 14 днів тому

    God day Sir, You made a video on skils for 2024 ... I hope you'll make for 2025 too

  • @Why-T_T
    @Why-T_T 14 днів тому

    Too early