Outcast 1.1/Outcast - Second Contact - REMAKE VS. REMASTER!
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2023
- Hey ya! Let's all take a trip through the Totally-Not-Stargate to the planet Adelpha as I discuss both the remaster and remake of this absolute gem of a game from 1999 by the name of Outcast.
#retrogaming #pcgaming #remastervsremake #outcast - Ігри
For anyone curious about it, I recently did a video on Outcast: A New Beginning as well:
ua-cam.com/video/-pElzoVhqlA/v-deo.html
The walking animation in Outcast 1.1 is absolutely hilarious
The music and lore really felt epic to me as a kid back in the late 90s
I can only imagine. This is the kind of game I would have gone nuts for as a kid.
Those were the simpler times. I saw Outcast at a friend's house who had a decent enough computer to run it. I was in complete awe of the stunning 3D graphics and complex story of the game.
Great and fair review of the classic! I love it when people take the time and effort to give this a real shot today and create high quality reviews like this one. 👍
Thanks! I had a fantastic time with 1.1 and wanted to make sure I put out the best video I could for it.
The colorful voxel environment actually gave Outcast a really unique look, so much so that very few copied it since everyone was so enamored by Unreal and Quake III engine tech at the time. Not sure if it was appealing to the mainstream since everyone was into dark and gritty brown environments.
Granted, I was about five when this came out, but I'm pretty sure I recall bright and colorful graphics being seen as "childish" back then. I didn't understand it then and I don't understand it now.
It was the golden age of arena shooters… Plus I think there was also a stigma of it being from a Franco-Belgian studio. Lol
Loved the original - the way the lore is built up as you progress, the music… just one of my top games. The dialog with the npcs just amazed me and still does - and poor Mogi! I kind of used the same tactics, laying dynamite before a patrol arrives. Also appreciate the comparison with the remake too - been debating getting it for a while. Thank you for giving attention to a game that deserved it
Giving attention to games that deserve it is what I want my channel to be about! Because it's easier to hate on bad games, a lot of people forget that a lot of really great games are just sitting there waiting to be played. Hopefully videos like mine can eventually help games like Outcast reach a much bigger audience.
I never played this game but I know the feeling I I'm a second edition dungeons & dragons DM been running d&d for over 20 years and to see what 5e is and to see people talk about how amazing and how better it is and it's it's the new and better thing oh man people have no idea what there missing out
Second edition is definitely a different beast altogether. The range of settings to play in is unmatched. Personally though, 3.5 is my favorite, but that's entirely based off of my experiences with the video games. I'm way too shy to play tabletop RPGs with strangers and never had enough friends in one place to put a decent campaign together.
Too bad this game is not more popular. Playing the remastered, since it was 1$ on Steam and I also played the original, I found there is allot of meme worthy dialog in this game. Even just "Yes, Ulukai?" :D . I remember being amazed by voxel tech playing the original. Wow, 3d world with so good graphics... and the buildings have roofs, with Voxel! Man tech is moving so fast, I thought back in the day.
(If people do not remember. Back then your games could ether be Voxel or polygon based. However Voxel was built from the "ground up" and therefor mountains were easy, but rooms with roofs were often not possible, until Outcast, at least when I first saw Voxel with indoor areas. Obviously polygon based games, which the remaster is, won the main stream usage. Once 3d cards became a thing, slightly better resources usage CPU based voxel died.)
It really is a shame that Outcast has never gotten the respect it deserves. I stand by my belief that a Dreamcast port would have done wonders for Outcast's popularity. This kind of experimental game was practically tailor-made for a system like the Dreamcast! But, Infogrames gonna Infogrames.
Great vid! I hope you cover Outcast 2 when it comes out in March.
I'm planning on it!
It it just me or does it seem No Man’s Sky took a few ideas from this game?
If it did, I wish it would have taken more since i could never get into No Man's Sky.
This game is on my top 5 of all time.
It's such a unique experience that I can't fault anyone for rating it so highly.
When you arive at Shamazaar with that unique soundtrack... It still gives me the chills.@@SwannyTheMike
I'm a big outcast fan and haven't actually played 1.1 version. Played original and second contact. Felt second contact wasn't finished and glitches, along with elements taken away from original like crawl example. Maybe I need to play 1.1 then!?
Great review loved the video
1.1 is well worth your time. Maybe as a hypeup for O2...
There are many small connections and references between the two games, so a good time to refresh your memory 😉
I personally like Second Contact, but it did not have the time and budget to polish it.
Thise new Systems should all have been optional and better integrated. Again main factor were ressources that were too limited.
I love the actual Level Design of the remake. Well done. It is the many small Bugs and some unpolished Designs that I am sad we could not fix.
I think 1.1 is the best way to experience the original on modern hardware. It ran great on my PC at least.
@PlanetAdelpha going to play 1.1 then. What is the difference of original vs 1.1? I had the original when first released back in 1999 and loved it even with it's faults. Still has the best intro than the remake. Why they didn't just use that is crazy and they should have made the model the same as the art of cutter like the original. The remaster has glitches and unfinished with the ending where he gets trapped down a hole, missing animation there haha, also a glitch when fighting at the okaar temple to save the talan being sacrificed where sometimes it glitches you half through the ground and the enemy are invisible or clipped somewhere haha. I wish they did a 1.1 on the remaster to spend some time fixing some glitches and animations and just touching it and polishing it a little more.
@@indianastiltsthere are only minor technical modernizations like higher Resolution, better music quality etc. The Controlls were changed a little bit and you can use a gamepad if you want (not recommended).
In terms of content and gameplay it is 100% the same.
And you have steam achievements. Some of those are a little buggy, but I have co-written a guide to get 100% of them.
In 1.1 the second bonus ending with cutter is possible without cheats if you do 100/100 quests.
@@PlanetAdelpha ah amazing. I'll give it a download and play then and get to that 100% completion.
The OST/music is insanely good in this 1999 game
There are plenty of amazing soundtracks from this era, but it's rare to find one so cinematic outside of RPGs.
The voxel solution was one used by several games of the era to better simulate uneven terrain. As someone who was there for the OG, it was revolutionary at the time. And if you hooked your PC up to a CRT, this game looked better than practically anything else at the time.
I don't doubt that this felt astonishing at the time. And your point about playing it on a CRT just adds to my bafflement about the Dreamcast port being cancelled. A game like this could have seriously helped move systems in 2000! (I think I read that the port was slated for 2000)
Great rundown! I'm really hyped for the sequel. THQ Nordic is one of the rare publishers that does right by the devs it works with, so I have faith that they can pull of their vision.
As someone who doesn't mind jank in my games - I'll actually take Technomancer or Elex over Mass Effect any day - I didn't find the Second Contact that bad. Some sections of it - the swamps in particular - feel darn atmospheric. That said, glad to see that the borked stealth wasn't just me - the whole time I was thinking 'perhaps I just remember it wrong', but it seems my memory is fine.
It could also be that I've seen so many 'cult classic reimaginings' try to reinvent the wheel and accidentally destroy the uniqueness of the source. For that I was actually relieved to see how much of Outcast was left intact and 'as-is' - apart from animations and combat, it has aged phenomenally well.
Also, I agree; Infogrames / Atari is on the shared No1 spot with EA. I'm so happy the franchises they used to have are now, for the most part, in better hands.
Believe me, I wouldn't have name-dropped Elex if I had a problem with jank in my games. I actually had to stop myself from playing even more once I got the footage I needed!
Honestly, if Second Contact had maybe another six months to a year in the oven, it probably would have turned out fantastic. So I'm hoping you're right and THQ Nordic gave them the time they needed.
@@SwannyTheMike Second Contact was a failed Kickstarter that got funded by the publisher (BigBen), so it likely didn't have the luxury of dev time. Heck, BigBen might have a rep as shady as Infogrames (see: The Sinking City), so I'm really happy that Outcast found a safer home.
The only danger I can see impacting Outcast 2 now is the outlandish spending of THQ Nordic's parent company Embracer. If they manage to nuke a couple of billions more, it might pull the rug from under more niche projects.
@@PenguinDTEmbracer really is in some trouble as many Media reported. But Outcast 2 is save right now. As it is quite far along in dev.
Oh man I played the shit out of this back in 99.. Loved it. I think second contact is ok. Playing it now.
It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out that I'm harder on Second Contact than most. Playing them back to back really exposed a lot of Second Contact's weaker points than if I'd played Outcast back in the day and gone into Second Contact without the original (or the remaster, I guess) fresh in my mind.
I've been a fan of Outcast since it's release, very hyped for the sequel. And I also liked Second Contact. The problems you mentioned are miniscule next to all the improvements it has.
I really did want to like Second Contact, but I just couldn't get past how dull and basic the combat felt with the new shooting mechanics. Granted, I play a LOT of shooters, so that could easily color my perception.
I had to laugh when you brought up Elex ("it takes effort to be jankier than [Piranha Bytes]"), because just yesterday I finished playing Outcast 2, which I really liked for the most Part, but occasionally I had Cutscenes playing without any Voiceovers (twice), with Music randomly getting super loud and drowning out the Voices, or with choppy Sound-Glitching... and with Moments like those, I actually thought to myself "wow, every now and then this Game is even jankier than Elex 2" (which is not a good Sign); I hope they will patch it so Things like that won't happen. I actually low-key wonder if the Outcast 2 Devs may have drawn some Inspiration from Elex (Science-Fantasy Open World with Jetpack-Skilltree); I'd have no Way of knowing that, but what I do know for a Fact is that in one UA-cam-Video (or maybe two) the Director of Elex said that Outcast was one of their Main Inspirations [for Elex]... it would be funny if Elex and Outcast ended up inspiring one another. I also enjoyed the world-shattering Revelation that English Cutter was voiced by Rayman's VA... sounds like it, but I prefer Cutter's more action-hero-manly German Voice tbh. In any Case, cool Video, I enjoyed it very much!
So it's not just me who's getting Elex vibes from parts of Outcast 2! And I'm not done with it yet, but I've had similar issues with cutscenes and moments in dialogue where a character's mouth doesn't move. Hopefully these issues get patched, because the main gameplay loop is really fun!
I liked the remake, the only thing I missed was the dance party during the title sequence. Also achievements were bugged.
I imagine that playing them back to back had a lot to do with my negativity towards the remake. Having such fresh memories of the remaster made flaws that I would have likely overlooked otherwise much more noticeable.
And It was such a shame that they cut the dance party ending. I was all excited to see the HD models doing the goofy dances too...
I prefer voxels.Outcast 1 forever ;].Today I try Outcast 2 , and it looks so good.
I hope so badly that the new Outcast is good. They've been trying off and on to get it made since about 2001. Appeal deserve a win here.
@@SwannyTheMikeIts hard to believe that after 20years we are going to have Outcast 2 from the same company actually.I think this is going to be the best open world game of the year.The world building and the story is so good and interesting
@@marekkos3513 I try to avoid hyping myself up too much for new releases these days, but I'd love nothing more than for Outcast 2 to be a 10/10 GOTY.
good one. how about Outcast A New Beginning ?
Also, many years ago i played Outcast 1.0 HD patch, it was great.
I actually did cover A New Beginning a while back, but UA-cam refuses to recommend it to people like it did this one.
ua-cam.com/video/-pElzoVhqlA/v-deo.html
Wew, 879 views and this showed up on my feed. I don't know what happened to the youtube algorithm but I'm happy with this change, and thanks to your review I was made aware that Outcast 2 is in the works, woot!
The algorithm has been suspiciously kind to me lately lol
@@SwannyTheMike Maybe it took pity on smaller channels, because I have had several sub 1000 view videos pop up on my suggested in recent weeks.
@@KamiKaZantA Well I hope it keeps taking pity on me then because I SUCK at promoting my videos.
Outcast 1.1 is the correct way of experiencing the first game. I absolutely adored this game and its world back in '99 (I still own my original big box with the CD-ROM and mousepad). There's something so special about the voxel graphics, they look so organic and alien and that is completely lost in the remake. Even though it's an ancient game by now, you can still clearly see the production values and budget were MUCH higher in the og game vs. remake. I sincerely hope Outcast 2 is a success, I want the series to continue.
Oh man, games that came with mouse pads! That takes me back... I hope Outcast 2 is a success as well. The demo gave me hope that we've got a good sequel on our hands.
It's fine
My video or the game?
beautiful video!
Thank you!
Indie devs hooked up on PSx copium graphics should look for the original Outcast voxel graphics instead.
I'd prefer we have both and indie devs take cues from more than just Resident Evil when using PS1 graphics. I.E. More Toree and Frogun.
Like original best caméra shoot 1999 ❤
I version 2017 is fake Plase no play 🥶🥵🤮
This is my favorite game of all time still, but I hate the remake and I hate the way the second game is looking , I wanted something more serious , more mass effect, more witcher 3, you know, the games that copied this mighty game.......but alas now we gonna get some woke enviromental double A game, instead of a amazing Plague's tale type smaller AAA game
I'll ignore how tired I am of people labelling everything they don't like as "woke" for a second. What have they even shown off that would indicate its "wokeness"? That it's about a peaceful native people being exploited by a technologically superior person or group? Even if that weren't an EXTREMELY COMMON plot in sci-fi long before reactionaries kept trying to co-opt my hobbies, that's literally the setup to the first Outcast!
Also, Mass Effect's devs were never shy about citing their influences and Outcast was never mentioned. It's not like they were picking only games people knew either since at least one of them cited the obscure as hell 80s PC game Starflight. And I don't even know what connection you see between The Witcher 3 and Outcast. They share practically nothing in common outside of being open world games with a dialogue system and side quests.
Also #2, A Plague Tale's budget was roughly $10,000,000 USD, a quarter of the bare minimum to count as a AAA title. I.E. a AA title. It being a linear, story-based game allowed it to look as pretty as a AAA game.
IT'S THE WOKE LIBERAL MOB
woooooooooooooo @@SwannyTheMike
@@cl8804 Oh dear God, no! There's no greater threat to Western Civilization(tm) than them!
Bro need to put time stamp for spoiler 8:48
I don't understand, how is that a spoiler? Your first interaction with one is about how they revel in the misery around them and you're almost immediately given a dialogue to ask them about their prices and they'll comment based on your reputation with other Talaan. I deliberately cut around so much dialogue to avoid any spoilers of the plot in conversation footage.