philza: drama, adulthood & DreamSMP | Shut Up I'm Talking
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(this episode was filmed on 22/10/24)
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@ph1lza @TommyInnit @JackManifoldTV
Big up philza minecraft for babysitting for an hour
LMAOOO FR
He is the dad of the group 😂
REAL
2020 all over again
Trueeeeeeeeee
Glad to see you guys found a guest at the local old peoples home! Really nice of you two to let the elderly join in for this episode!!
it’s super cool that they brought someone from the retirement home! i love how inclusive they are
I knoww!! They’re really trying to give back to their community by helping the old folks!
they are so kind!
So nice of them ❤❤
..LMAO
Plot twist: Phil’s neighbor is really upset that the QSMP ended and is taking it out on Phil.
Can we not joke about Qsmp ending @everyone
LMAO
@@A_little_lifes
Zamn
@@A_little_lifeswhy
its true i was the neighbour from hello neighbour
HIS NAME IS PHILZA MINECRAFT, AND HE IS QUITE OLD HE IS MARRIED TO A WOMAN AND THAT IS INTERESTING
TECHNOBLADE HAS A GOLDEN CROWN
I AM MASSIVE
I AM MASSIVE
@@RusselelllWILBUR SOOT. IS A MUSICIAN. HE SINGS ABOUT WOMEN. WHICH I FIND..
COOL
@@Skillissue2000TECHNOBLADE WEARS A GOWN
IN THE GOWN?
HE DOESNT OWN KNIVES
HIS NAME IS SLIMECICLE, A VERY SLIPPERY, GOPPY, SLIMY BOY! HIS FRIEND, QUACKITY FROM LAS NEVADAS IS A LITTLE MEXICAN MAN!
I AM MASSIVE I AM MASSIVE
love to know tommy is stuck in the dsmp mega hell like the rest of us
FRRR one of many phases im still not out of
They literally shit talked dream and Dream is a control freak, why the hell are people so sunshine and rainbows about Dream SMP????
@@ChillyOutside Feelings are complicated
@ I commented this before the patreon leaks got posted
@@DeadKrakerWhat leaks?
This is so real. As someone who was a DreamSMP fan at it's peak, I was SO obssessed, crazily obssessed. It genuinely felt like an altered state of self, it was so abnormal. And then I came out the other side of it, and gained some clarity and looked back on it and was like..... "what was that??? That was so weird! What happened??"
Kinda blame it on the egg™ arc everything else was a Hamilton reference and then they started to roleplay weird stuff that made no sense and attempt to act which just made their previously natural interactions kinda cringe
I wasn't around for dsmp, but I was for qsmp, wich was a lot less obssesive since we weren't in the pandemic, but god it was still fucking insane
So glad someone said it. I had the same thing happen. I don’t know if it was because life was shitty cause of Covid or if it’s some mental health thing but the dsmp and tommyinnit specifically had a death grip on me. I’m normal about it all now, and it feels so weird to look back on. Was that normal? Do sad teenagers feel that way about interests? Or was it dangerously parasocial?
I’m glad I’m doing better now and can enjoy this stuff reasonably, but it’s a little scary to look back on
i literally tried to switch realities INTO their world bruh i was a different level obsessed
@@aaa4l3x that was hardly a year ago
Wow a whole written intro, Phil must feel so honored and so horrified at the reminder of his embarrassing blunder at the hands of the infamous baby zombie
PHILZA LOOK OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
tommy asking phil what he was like when he was younger feels like asking your parents about the day you were born
@@ilovesnails19 TBF he really changed a lot
True
Tommy is so kind for bringing in his grandpa and oh wow I didn’t know there was nursing home drama like that
Pfttttt 😂
Ik you're joking but from what I heard from my grandmother, the drama at the nursing home does actually go crazy
@@Aratakiittofan omg spill the tea /j please dont
I could try to make a joke comment but I genuinely like having Phil as a guest, I can't help but appreciate how grounded he is a person and it was cool to see you guys talk about stuff together
philza and actually jacksepticeye are the two creators on the internet that i can always go back to and theyll still be so chill and cool and funny. mad respect to both of them tbh, like the older brothers/fathers of the internet taking care of us youngins
The weirdest part about the DSMP stuff is that i quite literally grew up with Tommy because i was the same age as him and Tubbo when my friend got me into it. And now that im an adult, I'm looking back on it, fanbase was weird. And Dream and Wilbur were ESPECIALLY weird for how they treated those kids because they were in direct contact.
???
Yeah, it was really weird
I know this may be shocking for a tommy stan but the dream situation was disproved ages ago. Some accounts even accepted it was fake and others just deleted it all. Good thing they got sued lmfao. But keep slandering people like you aren't ruining someone's life and making it harder for actual victims to come forward ig.
Please do a little bit of research before thoroughly hating on someone before hearing them out.
about wilbur tho, i will not be arguing about his issue 😂
@@VendoProstis i dont think they meant it in like.. a perverted way. i think they just meant like it was weird for them to be so openly aggressive or violent, even during bits.
18:24 The best advice I’ve heard about relationships, is that it should be 60/40, and that both partners should always strive to give 60 percent.
This advice sucks be in a 100/100 relationship
@@comonhaze8940bruh that’s unrealistic. People have bad days and have their own independent lives
@@maiko8565 If you think someone having a bad day means they're not a 100 then that's on you
This is bad after hearing the breakup💀
@@comonhaze8940 I think you misunderstand the entire point here. Your version totals to 200%.
it’s genuinely heartwarming that no matter how much time has passed, the warmth and admiration in Phil’s voice whenever he mentions Kristen never changes,,,, his comment on how they are “making up for lost time” in regards to long distance actually made me smile, so happy for them,, (i say this like it’s not a very stream occurrence for Phil lol)
55:32 i noticed it here, but i do really appreciate the way philza always make sure neither of tom or jack would let themselves like spiral into like a "everything is so much more complicated now, everything is getting worse" mindset, and he tried to emphasize that it's all just Different, that he's had great and not great moments his whole life and still has found a lot of joy in recent years.
It's nice
The craziest part for me is hearing Phil talk about how Tommy was when he was 15/16 I was about 13 when I had started watching Tommy and his channel. I started watching mostly during the DSMP and mostly watching Tom's POV (of course also watching one who will not be named, Phil, and Techno, technos lore went CRAZY) but I remember seeing how loud he was almost not caring if people did find him annoying at first and it truly did inspire me, I was 13, anxious as hell going through a very rough time at home and watching how confident Tommy seemed inspired me to better myself and get over all the social anxiety and just the anxieties of life in general I'm glad I'm still here watching
i hope you are all okay! :)
OH MAN, similar thing here mate, its so wild to be able to reflect back on it and like... still be here
It's actually insane because I'm in my final year of school now but began watching him at 13. Now looking back I'm like holy shit that is a child 😭😭
I was around 15 I think when I started watching all these content creators. Now I’m gonna be 19 in March, I’m in the first year of college and basically a whole new chapter of my life. The dream SMP was oddly enough how I met my at the time best friends who I may not be close with anymore but funnily that’s what kind of led me to making more friends at the time. I’ll always appreciate what came out of it. It’s kind of crazy that that much time has passed though
omg me too I also watched Tommy at 13 and it was so important for me to:)
Great video, guys!
On another note: Tommy, if you are genuinely experiencing excessive thirst, ask your doctor about getting your blood tested if he or she hasn’t already. As a type 1 diabetic, extreme thirst was one of my major symptoms before I was diagnosed. Watch out for excessive thirst, frequent urination/bed wetting, weight loss, hunger, fatigue, nausea, etc.
If your doctor already knows about your situation, you’re probably fine, but I was diagnosed at 16 a few years ago and we had dismissed symptoms until then.
Sending love. ❤
I was also thinking about this, like way back when they were making all the pissing jokes
doubling down!! I don't have type 1, but I have an issue with blood circulation which causes POTS and turns out I wasn't drinking enough sodium with water and was literally dehydrated to the point I needed IV fluids 😬
I think he did suffer from low blood sugar back when he was younger because I remember a lot of the people he hung out with in person saying they had to learn to keep candy and sugar on them just in case. I’m not 100% positive on that but a part of my brain is making me remember a conversation like that so it wouldn’t be too off the mark to say he may have type 1 diabetes
i couldn't help but be a little sad when he mentioned living with molly and now they announced they broke up :( hoping them both the best
THIS SCARED ME FOR A SEC BEFORE I REMEMBERED 😔🙏
Wait they broke up?! WHAT?!
When??
What, where did they mention this?
@@SamMaarttothey both tweeted it out :(
I think it’s early today or yesterday
Distancing from the fandom has been actually insane to see the jump. I remember watching Jack when he was getting 40 K and Tommy when he was getting like 100k and I also thought that that was completely normal and I was like wow twitch is like actually insane like i couldn’t comprehend how many people where watching I can’t imagine how y’all felt and I was a part of that insane side of the community like it felt like possession. It was the only thing I thought about it was really bad like I get hyper fixations regularly because I have really bad ADHD but that was incomparable. But yeah I was like This many people are watching? and now seeing it settle down is crazy even from a viewers perspective.
yeah, i regularly watch philza so seeing his viewership calm down used to make me worried but now im like “oh this is whats normal” because i used to think higher numbers were normal.
but like he mentioned, its actually so chill, i feel like the chat is also a massive part of the stream, even if phil is focusing on a build, the chat can have its own thing going on and its actually fun to check in on the chat, and i haven’t found this much anywhere else.
i feel like phils chat is like its own thing in a way, the community is just so funny and welcoming and its not just “streamer streamer streamer” but its actually a conversation and jokes that are often fully removed from the streamer. at least to me, its a special sort of culture thats been built that i really appreciate
@@cloud5544 I was never really into pill but I always wanted to get more into him when I was in the fandom. He always had one of the more chill fan bases fs
the hyperfixation part is so relatable bc same. i hyperfixate on so many things but nothing has compared to how much i did so over dsmp. i live in asia so my timezone is like 10 hrs ahead of most of the dsmp streamers but i still managed to never ever miss a stream. tubbo was my fav streamer bc he streamed daily and he usually started at 2AM for me so in order to not miss his streams, i trained myself to sleep at 5PM and wake up at 1AM....... looking back at it now that was genuinely insane
@@karirssa no literally my favorite world the British streamers and they’re about six hours ahead same for me. It was really difficult because I had to adjust my sleep schedule and shit
Haven’t watched Philza in a long while but it’s always a breath of fresh air to see him again.
He is truely one of the only influencers/ UA-camrs that really seem grounded and just like a good guy.
For real! Like Philza is one of the only streamers I still watch on a semi-regular basis (and the only one I am subbed too) and his streams are so nice to just listen to in the background and of course I also love interacting when I have the chance (I usually watch the vods cause I have a job).
But since it's calmed down since the dsmp days, it genuinely is just like listening to him having random conversations with chat or telling stories or little facts :3
48:54 as an artist I couldn't agree more, the laws should get involved, so much of AI right now is just built on stolen art, videos, pictures etc and there's no compensation given to those who have had their stuff stolen.
i love how most of the questions in this are just like “back in your day…” as if they’re interviewing a veteran or smth😭😭😭
I remember there was one stream specifically where Tommys stream glitched on twitch that made him look like he had 15k ish viewers? And drm nd others were poking fun and laughing at it, and now looking back its insane because like. Now thats just average, covid was just wild and insane
who did that? :(
@@crumbsfor dream team (dream, george, sapnap) and wilbur
@@crumbsfor they werent really mocking him, it was playful jokes
Context is important. They weren’t making fun of him. The mood was very upbeat and everybody was joking around.
@junyc_hi3196 never said they were making fun of him
i havent watched these guys since quarantine, i just saw clips from this pod on tiktok and watched out of curiosity, but i did watch the dsmp streams back in 2020 and it really was like an alternate dimension, the amount of people like me who otherwise werent interested in streamers but became massively invested in the dsmp and tuned in to those streams is genuinely incomprehensible
Yk what, getting james marriott on this podcast would be pretty rad
UPVOTE! get james marriott on this pod
i really don't like that theres no wide shot that includes all 3 of them, it makes it feel like phil is in his isolated own room
He can’t be seen in a room with anyone 10 years younger than him
Its because he is jack in a funny costume
they had to keep him contained
This is really interesting discussion. Cool to hear the experience of creators personally involved in the DSMP at that time of obsession online. As a viewer, it was my entire life at the time. I would watch streams in my zoom classes, rush through my school work, then hope on minecraft to practice parkour or draw fanart to post on twitter. And the twitter community was insane, especially with the artists. We *lived* on that app. I didn't get to the level of merging content creators with their characters, but a lot of people did. It's worrying looking back on it! What a weird time
being an adult (granted still young) fan during dsmp's peak was so wild like i both caught up in the craze and also in total shock with how crazy it really was so it was really nice to hear philza talk about his perspective!
“Thank you Philza Minecraft” we say in unison
Tom really got some great questions, this is so insightful. I really expected more funny funny stuff but the way this turned out is so amazing
I've been following this podcast since it was first announced and I have to say, this is genuinely some of the best content coming out of UA-cam right now; I look forward to it every weekend
I have also been following this podcast but Your UA-cam algorithm is messed up if you think this is the only good content
Same I’m always excited for it every week
@@Nitro15When did they say it was the only good content 😂😂
I have to admit, when covid was happening I was in my army service. DSMP vods were the only distraction I had since I was so homesick and we weren’t allowed to visit home because of covid. I was obsessed with DSMP because this stupid minecraft roleplay server was quite literally keeping me sane.
Yeah, Covid was wild.
This podcast is like a weekly cleanse palette through what has happened over the week for me. In shorts words, it’s very funny so keep continuing this podcast please!
this episode made me genuinely happy, especially towards the end, it's nice to hear someone be so completely content with their lives, excited for the moments to come and wise enough to not stress themselves with milestones and shit. just like. enjoy time with your wife. etc. this made me happy. maybe peace is possible yk.
29:50 can definitely relate to that in the viewer’s perspective of things- I didn’t get into watching streams/online fandom until around 2019-2020, so when I got DTs and the like, I genuinely didn’t realize how toxic that was. Thought the internet was just like that, and I’d signed up for it, hadn’t I? Jeez, what an era.
whats a DT?
philza is a such a reasonable honorable person, its so refreshing to see 'celebrities' like him because they are so pure of heart and as much as i like tommy and jack they are in stark contrast as much more high ego individuals
50:19 aerospace engineer here, there is so much empty space that we will realistically never have to worry before we develop methods to either shield our rockets or remove the junk. We're already getting better at not adding more too.
it's almost comforting to know that the dsmp stuff was also crazy for you guys. cuz it's all brain mush for me, too. weird fucking time
I relate to you so bad, im glad we got out of that one😭😭😭
I WAS LITERALLY JUST WONDERING WHEN THE NEXT EPISODE WAS COMING IUT
Real
It seems the episodes have been pretty consistently coming out on Sundays at 4pm bst
"It seems"
same
Been absolutely loving the podcast great to see you made it further than 50% of podcasts
Knowing Tommy and his gf broke up 20:44 this part hits a little harder than it should I know what he means
Tommy and Mollie broke up?!?
@@ggunter2730yeah
@@ggunter2730yeah he announced it on twitter, he said that they’re still great friends though ^^
The fun irony of 56:30 as I go to the library on weekends just to watch this podcast and do homework. During my time working at a library, I've found that for so many kids this is the place where the internet is rather than the escape from it.
I'd love to see the little "Shut up, im talking" intro to get more deranged every video.
I absolutely love watching Philza whenever I have the time to. During Covid, I had no life, so I watched a lot of his streams, and I wish I had the time for it now. I've always appreciated Phil's maturity and how genuine of a person he is. Loved the podcast today, it was very wholesome!
i find it crazy that im now the age tommy was when i started watching him. like i was 10 watching him and im now almost 16 and thats fucking surreal
Philza doesn't know how old he is but I do: he's as old as time itself
to the "do you ever feel like days get longer" "do you ever just want quiet" question, my partner and i have had several open and honest conversations about this. if you're in a small flat with someone, you're going to feel suffocated no matter how much you love them. every person needs their own space, some more than others, and that's okay. i think they need a bigger place and a blunt, loving conversation to find the best balance in your relationship and you're wellbeing. you're not "wrong" or "not in love enough" for not wanting to be together 24/7, and if you're strained socially, that's going to strain your relationship.
Im so Sad Schlack and Teddy are Ending Chuckle I'm Talking...
They jumping around trying to avoid mentioning Will when talking about DSM is hilarious 😂
It's kinda sad imo, despite will's shitty behavior he was very much a close friend of theirs, not being able to even talk about someone feels kinda wrong. Though I completely understand why they don't, they obviously just want to move on from everything from that time
2:30
Are we just gonna ignore the fact that Tommy called Jack “baby”?? 😭😭
HELP AHAGAGA
listening to this after I put the trash in my neighbor's bin accidentally and then just went "oh well"
is kinda terrifying
phil: talks about anything
tommy: so how was that?
his name is philza minecraft and he is quite old
He is married to a woman
That is interesting
@@mistedmoon I AM MASSIVE I AM MASSIVE
I know it was mostly a bit but jacks "and everyone else" at the beginning genuinely made me really happy, the inclusivity is greatly appreciated
Tommy just becoming more chaotic the second Philza is in the room
It is so funny how Phil not included in the shot with them and just has his own 😭😭😭
I didn't go on the internet until I was 18. Despite all the pain it's brought me, it brought me so many friends and people who love me, and a better understanding of the world and myself. I think that the way internet spaces are managed needs some work, but it is such a wonderful tool for understanding each other and finding belonging.
Hey guys idk if you’re like me, but last time there was a thing they did was was so confusing so I thought I’d simplify!
So they talk about their worst moments of the week in this segment called “the worst moment of the week”. In it, they talk about what their worst moment of their week was. Hope that helps!
thanks :)
thank you bunches!!!
OHHHHHHH I GET IT!
OMG L’MANBERG GUY!!!!!
@@oliveisawake The one and only
I used to be absolutely obsessed with the dream smp during its prime years, and for quite a while after that. I started to drift away from the whole mcyt scene around 2022 when i was slowly reaching adulthood but still held most of the content creators close to my heart. Now as an adult, a university student with a full time job and bills to pay, watching this video has healed something within me. It was such a joy hearing you guys go on about what it was like back then, I especially resonate with Jack about how I thought the whole craze was usual and not a product of its time because of covid. This really out things into perspective for me. Hope to see more content such as this from you guys!❤
an old father coming onto his sons podcast
All questions I've been curious about for forever (Been in the trenches since 2020) but never known I wanted to hear about! Very sweet episode. This is such a unique conversation to get to hear about because I've heard plenty about it from the viewer side, and I've grown up alongside y'all as well. I never thought about how different the worlds were even just between age groups Within the content creator sphere.
Thanks for sharing this was fascinating and really very heartwarming.
Phil talking about life before the internet makes me feel old 😂 I'm Gen Z but my life was WILDY different than people born slightly after me
I remember how incredible it was to use walkie talkie "cell phones" with my family when I was playing down the street somewhere. There was a single, shared computer kept in a cabinet with a pull-out keyboard drawer that ALWAYS rolled out too fast and smacked you.
Bikes were EVERYTHING, with bikes and scooters you could hang out with anyone in town! Friends weren't always the best, but you would bond over tiny trivial things and keep them around because there literally wasn't anyone else.
I was lucky enough to have siblings, so we spent a lot of time together riding bikes, playing in the woods, and playing video games. We also read a lot of Archie comics, cuz they were cheap and in EVERY grocery store.
It was a rite of passage to have your own phone hooked up to the landline in your room. I called my friend for the first time and we were on the phone so long, not even talking, just excited to call. There was a chalkboard near the phone so you could write down any numbers to remember.
When I got older, I was in online public school, LONG before pandemic and it becane normal. People couldn't believe that I was "homeschooled" but also had teachers and classmates and a class schedule. I had a lot of discipline and responsibility, but I also had a lot of access to the internet unsupervised 😂 It's definitely a double edged sword.
Phil is so grounded I feel like a shunned child when he talks about being an obsessive fan😭😭 growing up with Tommy and Jack is crazy to think about in hindsight
Crazy how I'm just starting and anyone who already started watching is still watching and hasn't finished it yet.
The different camera angles is such a great idea for podcasts because it keeps you seeing different scenes and not the same whole area the whole time, you can focus on the specific people.
Philza needs to be on more of these, the 3 of them are hilarious together😂😂
Oh wow! I didn’t think “Schat” and “Tod” would become British! I thought Chuckle Sandwich was over!
this video is so funny as a molly melinks viewer because from her perspective it is so clear that tom adores her
oh boy I have some news for you
man
oh man...
I need the news… guys- guys i leave for a year and suddenly idk the gossip anymore- GUYS PLS
@@Kieran19106 as a regular molly melinks veiwer TRUST ME I KNOW
bless you for posting this i now have something to listen to on my drive home from work
the one time i can use this knowledge, worms can’t drown, they come up during the rain because it’s the only time they can be up top without drying out - shout-out to wild kratts for teaching me that
hearing tommy talk about now being technos age when the met made me cry bro
so idrk if anyone knows about this... theres a segment called "worst moment of the week" where they talk about their worst moment of the week.
hope this helps!
thanks, i didnt notice! They really need to make it clearer because its really hard to find.
@ glad i could help!
Oof 12:30 one of those "wardens" tried harassing my mum a few months ago. He and his partner were parked ironically in front of a skip which had a keep clear sign just sitting in their car, while my mum was outside a nail salon having a smoke. Out of muscle memory she flicked the filter on to the floor but realised she had done it so went to pick it up and dispose of it properly. As she does out comes tweedle dee and tweedle dumb giving her grief for littering. The sweet old lady that works at the salon sees what's happening and beckons my mum to come in, the wardens tried to follow but said sweet old lady tells the pair of them to sod off.
the lead up to the reveal that jack got fined for fly tipping was beautiful storytelling tbh
might be some of the best content on youtube rn…
TommyInnit and 50 shades of "What was it like?"
todday is my 18th bday, and im enjoying tom jack and phil like im 14 again. thank you
Happy late birthday!
Jeff Goldblum played a magician in a cod zombies map and he was genuinely born for the role
i watch these episodes with my mum and it’s always a treat to have to explain to her the horrors of the “exile arc” and the downfall of “L’Manberg”, four years after the fact, randomly sprinkled into this podcast
39:43 classes were HARDLY being attended
Crazy to see Adulthood and Dreamsmp in the same title
Phil: *breathes*
Tommy: "so what was that like?!"
53:08 i always say i grew up alongside the internet because when we were kids the internet was still a new thing and we grew up as the internet grew up. the iPhone didn't even come out until 2007 i remember my dads blackberry
It’s crazy how these ppl kept me alive when I was 14 n now I’m watching this as an 18 yr old
This
fr
lovely start to my morning, moms gone off to church and here i am
I don't watch philza much but he seems like such a chill guy. I respect him a lot
this is my favourite talk tauh episode great job hayley welsh schlatt and jack sepsis guy
Not the lovense joke like 10 seconds in 💀
Parkour civilization mentioned, day improved!
Thank you Jack
39:43 and people like me who got into watching yt and twitch more during covid also thought that was normal too. Its so crazy looking back now as an adult
The DSMP was weird honestly. Like just the absolute hold it had on a good chunk of people. I mainly followed Tommy's timeline since he was the closest one to ke in age and that his character was really not mentally well.
But it was weird to me how the actual kids(under 18 participants) were treated like humanity's worst, while adults were blowing up countries and being dictators(quite literally in certain cases). But it seemed like a lot of the time the kids were mimicking what was around them and getting a backhand rather than a slap on the wrist.
It was weird man.
(Not to mention the literal sewer-slide attempt on D!Tommy's part. So messed up.)
Love how Phil decided it was a good idea to drive for 12 times as long as he was on the podcast
My heart stopped for a moment when I saw “Philza Drama”…
I thought someone had gotten to the old man…
It is weird starting DSMP as a 14yr old like fresh teen and coming out 19 almost starting my 20’s and realising like shit, time really has flown by??
41:18 a safe car is a car tha will crumple into a million pieces tho. something like the cyber truck that hardly crumples at all may sound safer to people, but if it isnt crumpling then 100% of the shock from the crash is delivered straight up your ass
I live here in Switzerland currently as an expat and someone once told me to anonymize all of my garbage because sometimes they’ll open up bin bags to see who’s not done their rubbish correctly.
going along with the fly tipping thing at the beginning especially in newcastle they’ve got really strict littering laws, got fined £75 the other week for dropping a cigarette butt on the floor and literally got followed into the train station to the ticket barriers to be charged
so nice of phil to volunteer and support small creators!!
Philza not remembiring how old he is is so real
Philzas been streaming longer than ive been alive😭
As an American watching this, "quid", "rubbish", "warden" is so fucking British (this is my first non-American podcast and I'm finally realizing it)