I hate all this bickering over who's brush (or spray gun for me) is the best, at the end of the day most of the high end guns and brushes are so close it's hard to split them so just enjoy what you do and use the brand you prefer👌I have the Sata X5500, DV1, WS400 Series2, Fuji and a few more they are all good guns so there is no point falling out over them🙏👍
I saw you in "Inside The H&S Factory: Behind the Scenes of Crafting Your Perfect Airbrush" video in the picture @13:03 to the right of center... though he presents the photo as the team he works with, are you an employee at H&S? W makes it sound like you are... or did I misunderstand him... " 13:00 I'm so proud of the TEAM that I WORK WITH HERE and the work that THEY do. 13:04 Every last one of them is absolutely phenomenal "
It warms my heart to see this because Iwata pricing is sky high. I own the Olympos SP-A Special and they made the Olympos MP200 MICRON... which is the Daddy of the Iwata micron because Iwata bought the Micron design when Mr. Olympos retired... And, Richpen was his Son taking some of the brands designs with him... But for me... Iwata has never been the best... Olympos was! This is a great comparison video Rob, as it vindicates everything I think... Harder and Steenbeck Infinity 2024.... I'M THE DADDY NOW! Damn .... I just realised what everybody is going to say..... that Iwata own Harder and Steenbeck... Oh Well. 🤷♀
@@astralsolari I had to say it as it is and it's about time the infinity is up there where it belongs the old one sat below the cm sb for ages in my eyes Because of the trigger
Hi Rob I used to run Devilbiss Areograph before Devilbiss sold it The argument of what airbrush was better, drove me made. I’ve used everything we made, then years later changed to H&S evolution, I hated the trigger but the new 2024 is fantastic the trigger is spot on Which in my opinion was the one thing lacking to make it awesome
Hi Rob, great review, and all of your videos are really helpfull to those of us that aren't as skilled as you. I'd like to see this comparison repeated with someone less skillful as I wonder if your skill takes up any slack in the airbrush performance? A 'clogger' like me would probably amplify any shortcoming in the airbrush. I currently use a Takumi, but ive got the last model of Infinity and rarely use it as i find the trigger frustrating, id love to buy the new one and try it but im scared of wasting a not inconsiderable amount of money. Cheers Dave
Great comparison video Rob, thanks. I also think the great advantage with H&S is the replacement parts are way cheaper than Iwata and many parts are interchangeable between the different H&S models e.g nozzle's, needles and cups etc.
They haven't answered me yet about infinity nozzle setups and changing them. Because the Infinity is 0.25mm/0.44mm needle nozzle setup where as the Evo and Ultra 2024 are 0.28mm/0.45mm. The difference makes me think it's a unique infinity setup.
I ordered the HS Infinity 2024 the first day it was available and am very excited to get it! I got an email that they are starting to ship on the 11th. Looking forward to increasing my skill level with this brush.
I have a bunch of iwata airbrushes and yes the Takumi is awesome. I can’t wait for my new infinity to be shipped out to me. Keep making videos on the Infinity. It’s cool to see what you can create with it.
Your last few vids on the Infinity have felt really honest and I appreciate the work you trying and spell out the bigger picture for people that might be all caught up in the "which brush is best" mindset. Great vid.
@@rankcolour8780 thank you it was a hard one to do when you have so many people asking questions about which one is best that's why I broke it down That way at the end of the video the easiest way I could at the end of the day we all have are favourites when it comes to brushes I think h&s have gave the airbrush community a breath of fresh air with the new line up starting with the ultra for the newbies and the evolution for the Intermediate painter and now the infinity crplus for detail that now deserves the top spot for a change and at the right price
Awesome video again, this one made up my mind, infinity 2 in 1 it is, there is nothing the micron can do that the infinity can’t, stick the .44 in it and the same can’t be on the big stuff. Thanks Rob
Another youtuber mentioned he did some research on Iwata and GSI. Apparently they both outsource to the Richpen factory - just different specs and price points. Explains why a lot of parts are identical and font is the same. I guess Iwata will have have to up the specs.
This is great! Now, as airbrush evolution goes, Iawata will review the H&S Infinity and say, let’s improve on their titanium nozzle and add a highly polished titanium needle to go with the new upgraded Micron maybe. Then the race is back on. Not withstanding this I’m placing my order for the 2024.
@@guyvogp_Airbhrushaaah I don't care about who makes what tbh I'm not attached to a brands. I do chuckle at the arguing about H&S and Iwata when they are sister companies though. Still, innovation and competition is always good.
Mukka I've got the ps 771 in my collection do you think ,and your feed back is much appreciated that it's a match or even better than the creos , but I must add only just getting to grips with it ????
@@deanbrown7643 the 771 is a cracking brush that will hit the detail mate and will be perfect for your needs 👌 Eventually you will move onto another brush in years to come when that time comes go for the infinity and you will see the difference
@@dredfxcustompaint I'm from Germany myself and was disappointed with h&s after switching to Iwata. This trigger delay drove me crazy. I sold everything to h&s again. But now that h&s has fixed the problem, I had to order the new infinity immediately 😱
@@dinosaurstoysandmerchandise yes I went micron from the old infinity that's when I found the delay with the trigger but now The new one deserves the top place in my eyes for what you are getting for the price the build quality on the new 2024 brushes Is top notch 👌 triggers are on point .h&s have opened the door in 2024 with the new line up for the beginner starting out the intermediate And now the infinity for the full on detail side of things hats off to them 👏 Journey
I enjoyed this review very much and I must say they are both good airbrushes but I have to agrre with you to me the Infinity is a bit easier to control and a bit tighter in term of lines. I would like to try it with the 0.44 combo.
Good review - if I were to buy another airbrush it would be between these two. The only other test I like to do is on a white non porous surface like glossy plastic. You can easily see if the feathering is clean because it doesn't absorb like paper - less grain better atomisation. Using GSIs at the moment because gradients are soo smooth. I know these two should be better.
Hi rob really great video for some reason I've always overlooked H&S and brought iwata. I'm in the process of saving for a micron it looks like yourself and H&S has saved me a lot of money
H&S & Iwata are now owned by the same company. IDK if that is well known or not but i see that h&s has completely redesigned the infinity. I think the iwata needs some upgrades now. Let the games begin 😁.
Nice comparisson! even a complete beginner like me can understand it. I have the old Infinity, it was a gift. I will use that untill I get good enough to actually notice a difference when comparing it to another. Right now I probably could not notice any difference at all between a 50 Euro Airbrush and a 300 euro one lol.
@@Crucial_End sit with the old one for now it's still a top performer with quality build 👌 then move over to the evolution 2024 next or infinity you won't look back
Would it be a step too far at this stage im at or should i stick with what ive got for the time being as ive got the HnS 2024 ultra but not got the upgrades
@@deanbrown7643 I think the ultra was the best step forward you did I know you had all the other brushes first 👍👍and at that time it was silly not to pick them up at the prices you got them for so your collection will see you right up to the top levels of airbrushing Dean when it comes to the ultra upgrade I would sit with it as it is for now get to grips with the settings and the way you have to clean it 😉 then upgrade it with the evolution 2024 0.28mm setup that has the prong cap to the front
@@dredfxcustompaint Thanks mukka your feedback and advice is greatly appreciated only been into this game a few yrs so hold back get used to what I've got as I'm only at the begging of this great journey so your words are gold 😉😉😉😉😉
I always had hopes that the Infinity airbrush would improve its response quality and many more improvements. Today this has come true. My dream has come true that this German brand would be It would be surpassing the Iwata Micron, and the precedents towards the future will be increasingly better in improvements.
@@371928371928 that is exactly what I wanted for the infinity aswell h&s deserve to be at the top in 2024 with what they have done for the Beginner the intermediate and now with the infinity
We will have to wait and see if the Japanese brand Iwata will improve or stay the same while the Infinite brand will continue to improve its airbrush technology.
Indeed a no brainer, but competition with other brands, even under the same holding. Keeps brushers improving with at least TRYING to make a better one. And clips like this gives people who don't have a nice reserve on his/her bankaccount the best value for the money they can spend. I have a few H&S's Ultra 2024, older but still divine Evo, and a regular Infinity, but i do have a few cheaper ones. And they are not the same (never could be) so i use them for priming or less details. 👍🏼
Sorry but no almost same price I'd go with the CM, now I am a bit jaded after paying a pretty penny for 2 H&S AB's and multiple needles and nozzles... that I found out months after buying them and hating them...were intended for applying base coats to scale models and not illustration due to their absolute shiet trigger response. I am hesitant to trust them for anything other than non precision spraying and if you notice all their marketing is also targeting scale modelers, Dred is the only one that's really using them for illustration. $500 CAD for an infinity is bat guano insane, if they updated the head assembly to something similar to Creos or Iwata CM then sure maybe ask for a premium but at least establish yourself as top 2 airbrush on the market first.
@@guyvogp_Airbhrushaaah the ultra is a great brush that you can upgrade with the evolution front end on a 0.28.mm which makes it get down on the small stuff Better just a thought for you in the future 👍
impressive comparison... considering the infinity has a nozzle that is considerably larger on the infinity (0.25 vs 0.15 on the Micron - 50%?)... just imagine what a 0.15 Titanium Needle would do! then it's truly apples to apples. Nevertheless, for the money the clear winner is the infinity (which is why i have one on order)
WOW if your getting all these comments on which is better, tells me one thing. Most don’t know what they’re doing. And think that one of these brushes are magical. Sorry no they are not. It is your ability. One Other thing I don’t take what most people pushing an airbrush that was given to them. People don’t get it! It takes a lot of practice, I mean a lot. Most of the top airbrushes if that’s what they’re called. Can take a lot of different airbrushes and make them whistle dixie.
So here's a thing, Rob may have been given the Airbrush, but he has, like you have stated, practiced a lot. So much in fact that a factory who manufacturers one of the airbrushes looked at his work, looked at his comments and contacted him. And incidentally one of the comments Rob was making was a suggestion on how to improve the airbrush. I think most of those people who you think do not know what they are doing, can decide for themselves whether or not Rob has sold his soul for 1 airbrush and a visit to Germany. Also, maybe most of the people have already decided that they trust Rob's opinion and view his videos for good advice. Regards other makes of airbrush, there are bad ones, good ones and great ones. A skilled artist will be able use any of them, however any fool can be uncomfortable, as a skilled workman I buy the best kit I can to make my process easier. Your comment sounds quite bitter, do you not get the recognition you think you deserve? Maybe when you grow up you may have a more enlightened opinion.
Main reason i bought cheap kit, was, is it a hobby i want do long term. I was same with my sim racing, started cheaper, then built it up, that wasn't cheap...
@@dredfxcustompaint either regular eclipse or the takumi eclipse as they both spray the same. eclipse can do some amazing detail so it would be nice to see how it performs against your infinity
i just got them and sent them back.(mobius 0.2 and swallowtail). if you come from iwata or 2024 h&s u won't be able to deal with that build quality. threads are rubbish and there are so many imperfections and bad machining. they only step up in investing into the marketing
dude wake up is less than half of CM price and comes with many more smart features to make your life easier cleaning it also the threaded parts are coming together better than on iwata which mean they are working with smaller tolerances on probably more accurate CNC machines. if iwata charges 450£ for CM v2 and CM takumi H&S could easily charge 500£ for this infinity 2024
@@dredfxcustompaint I went on their website, $400 CAD with delivery, then duties and taxes is about $550 Landed cost, that's what CM gravity feed was going for The 2 in 1 is then far more
@@MihaiDobrin88 Let me math this for you CM is $659 CAD no discount. H&S single setup ordering one from H&S is $400 CAD then about $150 in duties and taxes for a total landed cost of $550 might be more with brokerage fees. No need to be a jackass and lie to make a point when the #'s are right there on the interwebs. Also their previous ABs were garbage, if they want to charge premiums they need to prove their new ABs aren't crap which they haven't because everyone else hasn't reviewed them due to unavailability. Unless you include the modelers but who cares about them they are getting paid, eg. Squidmar.
@@scottyboy6269 well i get your point. didn't take into account your import charges. all i can say is that i have 4 iwata Eclipse Takumi, HP-TH-2, RG3L, LPH80 Luxury Edition and i never used h&s before. i just got their new 2024 lineup Ultra 2024, Evolution Squidmar Black Edition 2024 and now i am waiting for Infinity Squidmar 2024. The build quality on Ultra 24 and Evo 24 is definitley higher than iwata so i expect the same from Infinity 24. Evo trigger is accurate and responsive like eclipse takumi but is not as soft as takumi it has a bit more tension in it and is not working as well as eclipse with thicker paints. infinity has tension adjustment so you can deal it in the way u like it. i don't have micron to test it against infinity 24 but from what everybody complained about old infinity vs cm was the trigger delay and issues with thicker paints. Also i know for sure that CM has the same accuracy and response and trigger like eclipse takumi so i'll be able to see if infinity 24 matches them or is just marketing and i can let u know. i think i will get mine in about 2 weeks
Please, stop uploading more videos of Infinity 2024 :-D I (pretty sure there are plenty more of us) can't wait for mine to come just to watch you putting it on the pedestal which I'm sure it deserves. It is pure pain to see how great this Infinity is and not having it, yet.
I hate all this bickering over who's brush (or spray gun for me) is the best, at the end of the day most of the high end guns and brushes are so close it's hard to split them so just enjoy what you do and use the brand you prefer👌I have the Sata X5500, DV1, WS400 Series2, Fuji and a few more they are all good guns so there is no point falling out over them🙏👍
I saw you in "Inside The H&S Factory: Behind the Scenes of Crafting Your Perfect Airbrush" video in the picture @13:03 to the right of center... though he presents the photo as the team he works with, are you an employee at H&S? W makes it sound like you are... or did I misunderstand him... "
13:00
I'm so proud of the TEAM that I WORK WITH HERE and the work that THEY do.
13:04
Every last one of them is absolutely phenomenal "
It warms my heart to see this because Iwata pricing is sky high. I own the Olympos SP-A Special and they made the Olympos MP200 MICRON... which is the Daddy of the Iwata micron because Iwata bought the Micron design when Mr. Olympos retired... And, Richpen was his Son taking some of the brands designs with him... But for me... Iwata has never been the best... Olympos was!
This is a great comparison video Rob, as it vindicates everything I think...
Harder and Steenbeck Infinity 2024.... I'M THE DADDY NOW!
Damn .... I just realised what everybody is going to say..... that Iwata own Harder and Steenbeck... Oh Well. 🤷♀
@@astralsolari I had to say it as it is and it's about time the infinity is up there where it belongs the old one sat below the cm sb for ages in my eyes
Because of the trigger
Hi Rob I used to run Devilbiss Areograph before Devilbiss sold it
The argument of what airbrush was better, drove me made. I’ve used everything we made, then years later changed to H&S evolution, I hated the trigger but the new 2024 is fantastic the trigger is spot on
Which in my opinion was the one thing lacking to make it awesome
@@colinroberts5305 yes totally agree with you on that one I've still got my devilbiss airbrushes on the shelf 👍
Hi Rob, great review, and all of your videos are really helpfull to those of us that aren't as skilled as you.
I'd like to see this comparison repeated with someone less skillful as I wonder if your skill takes up any slack in the airbrush performance? A 'clogger' like me would probably amplify any shortcoming in the airbrush.
I currently use a Takumi, but ive got the last model of Infinity and rarely use it as i find the trigger frustrating, id love to buy the new one and try it but im scared of wasting a not inconsiderable amount of money.
Cheers
Dave
Great comparison video Rob, thanks. I also think the great advantage with H&S is the replacement parts are way cheaper than Iwata and many parts are interchangeable between the different H&S models e.g nozzle's, needles and cups etc.
They haven't answered me yet about infinity nozzle setups and changing them. Because the Infinity is 0.25mm/0.44mm needle nozzle setup where as the Evo and Ultra 2024 are 0.28mm/0.45mm.
The difference makes me think it's a unique infinity setup.
@@Puckerization yes hands down for parts being at a better price and the ability to charge things up
@@scottyboy6269H&S put out a video literally stating that.
Thanks for this comparison vid. The conversation at the end was the clincher. Giving H&S a go!
I ordered the HS Infinity 2024 the first day it was available and am very excited to get it! I got an email that they are starting to ship on the 11th. Looking forward to increasing my skill level with this brush.
I have a bunch of iwata airbrushes and yes the Takumi is awesome. I can’t wait for my new infinity to be shipped out to me. Keep making videos on the Infinity. It’s cool to see what you can create with it.
@@BrentDeardorff will do 👍enjoy your infinity thanks for the feedback
Aqui no Brasil infinity nao vale apena porque nao teria peças de reposição , vale mais apena iwata porque tem peças de reposição
Your last few vids on the Infinity have felt really honest and I appreciate the work you trying and spell out the bigger picture for people that might be all caught up in the "which brush is best" mindset.
Great vid.
@@rankcolour8780 thank you it was a hard one to do when you have so many people asking questions about which one is best that's why I broke it down
That way at the end of the video the easiest way I could at the end of the day we all have are favourites when it comes to brushes
I think h&s have gave the airbrush community a breath of fresh air with the new line up starting with the ultra for the newbies and the evolution for the
Intermediate painter and now the infinity crplus for detail that now deserves the top spot for a change and at the right price
absolutely love my new ultra,
Great comparison between the two brushes. This is very useful information, thanks for sharing your expertise.
@@louisliguore7199 your welcome glad you liked it
Awesome video again, this one made up my mind, infinity 2 in 1 it is, there is nothing the micron can do that the infinity can’t, stick the .44 in it and the same can’t be on the big stuff. Thanks Rob
@@steventhomas1504 to right and your saving money win win in my eyes 👍
Another youtuber mentioned he did some research on Iwata and GSI.
Apparently they both outsource to the Richpen factory - just different specs and price points.
Explains why a lot of parts are identical and font is the same.
I guess Iwata will have have to up the specs.
This is great! Now, as airbrush evolution goes, Iawata will review the H&S Infinity and say, let’s improve on their titanium nozzle and add a highly polished titanium needle to go with the new upgraded Micron maybe. Then the race is back on. Not withstanding this I’m placing my order for the 2024.
@@luispablo39 its the way to go h&s have smashed it for 2024 and keep an eye for what's to come next
It's not difficult for Iwata to review it, both Iwata and H&S are owned by the same parent company Anest Iwata.
it's a one-horse race tbh.
@@dredfxcustompaintJust got an extra U '2024.. Weird feeling after a few days with the topshelf ladies. 😂
@@rankcolour8780True, but as long they keep sending us value for our money they can be made in Turkey or Greece imo. Right? 🤷🏻♂️
@@guyvogp_Airbhrushaaah
I don't care about who makes what tbh I'm not attached to a brands.
I do chuckle at the arguing about H&S and Iwata when they are sister companies though.
Still, innovation and competition is always good.
Happy wife happy life , where have i heard thsy before 🤔🤔🤔
😂
Nothing to add. 😂
Are you going to do a match with the Infinity and Creos P771?
@@javiergarcell3075 I would do but I got rid of my 771 last year
@@dredfxcustompaintyou can borrow mine mukka 😉😉😉😉😉
@@deanbrown7643 think I may have to mukka to do a video
@@dredfxcustompaint no worries Rob I'll post it down pronto 😉😉😉😉
@dredfxcustompaint Why did you get rid of it, if you don't mind me asking?
Mukka I've got the ps 771 in my collection do you think ,and your feed back is much appreciated that it's a match or even better than the creos , but I must add only just getting to grips with it ????
@@deanbrown7643 the 771 is a cracking brush that will hit the detail mate and will be perfect for your needs 👌
Eventually you will move onto another brush in years to come when that time comes go for the infinity and you will see the difference
Thank you for this great video. That's exactly what I wanted to know!
@@dinosaurstoysandmerchandise your welcome glad you enjoyed it and thank you for you comment
@@dredfxcustompaint I'm from Germany myself and was disappointed with h&s after switching to Iwata. This trigger delay drove me crazy. I sold everything to h&s again. But now that h&s has fixed the problem, I had to order the new infinity immediately 😱
@@dinosaurstoysandmerchandise yes I went micron from the old infinity that's when I found the delay with the trigger but now
The new one deserves the top place in my eyes for what you are getting for the price the build quality on the new 2024 brushes
Is top notch 👌 triggers are on point .h&s have opened the door in 2024 with the new line up for the beginner starting out the intermediate
And now the infinity for the full on detail side of things hats off to them 👏
Journey
I enjoyed this review very much and I must say they are both good airbrushes but I have to agrre with you to me the Infinity is a bit easier to control and a bit tighter in term of lines.
I would like to try it with the 0.44 combo.
@@Chanchipita yes definitely and me to need to see what the 44 is like 👍
Good review - if I were to buy another airbrush it would be between these two.
The only other test I like to do is on a white non porous surface like glossy plastic.
You can easily see if the feathering is clean because it doesn't absorb like paper - less grain better atomisation.
Using GSIs at the moment because gradients are soo smooth. I know these two should be better.
Great comparison Rob, I am awaiting delivery for my Infinity and my wife has just bought me the micron for my birthday, WOW!! Thank You.
@@spyuggy you have two top brushes right there enjoy both that's all I can say 😉
Thank you for your video, I have sold my Iwatas and am looking forward to my infinity 2024 arriving.
@@haroldquill8761 just wait to you open the box 🤩 the finish is something else 👌 enjoy it and drop me some feedback when you get it all the best rob
I've had my original Evo for nearly 10yrs now, great brushes for anyone!
@@NobleWizard the evolution has been with me for years just like you totally agree great brushes for everyone 👍
Hi rob really great video for some reason I've always overlooked H&S and brought iwata. I'm in the process of saving for a micron it looks like yourself and H&S has saved me a lot of money
@@JulianHolt-ki2bk give the new one a look you will be amazed on what it can do
Definitely the 2024 will be on order payday
H&S & Iwata are now owned by the same company. IDK if that is well known or not but i see that h&s has completely redesigned the infinity. I think the iwata needs some upgrades now. Let the games begin 😁.
I can barely see your finger move with your mix using the infinity, it looks amazing 👏🏻
@@mikeszczutkowski3066 it is brilliant 💯👌thanks for watching
@@dredfxcustompaint always
Nice comparisson! even a complete beginner like me can understand it. I have the old Infinity, it was a gift. I will use that untill I get good enough to actually notice a difference when comparing it to another. Right now I probably could not notice any difference at all between a 50 Euro Airbrush and a 300 euro one lol.
@@Crucial_End sit with the old one for now it's still a top performer with quality build 👌 then move over to the evolution 2024 next or infinity you won't look back
Could you make a comparison/breakdown of the old and new infinity?
@@egregorybush71 yes of course I can leave it with me
@@dredfxcustompaint cannot forget Giraldez
@@egregorybush71 the Giraldez is one of my favourites with the evolution trigger fitted to it 👍
Would it be a step too far at this stage im at or should i stick with what ive got for the time being as ive got the HnS 2024 ultra but not got the upgrades
@@deanbrown7643 I think the ultra was the best step forward you did I know you had all the other brushes first 👍👍and at that time it was silly not to pick them up at the prices you got them for so your collection will see you right up to the top levels of airbrushing Dean when it comes to the ultra upgrade I would sit with it as it is for now get to grips with the settings and the way you have to clean it 😉 then upgrade it with the evolution 2024 0.28mm setup that has the prong cap to the front
@@dredfxcustompaint Thanks mukka your feedback and advice is greatly appreciated only been into this game a few yrs so hold back get used to what I've got as I'm only at the begging of this great journey so your words are gold 😉😉😉😉😉
@@deanbrown7643 your welcome mate always here if you Need help you know that
I always had hopes that the Infinity airbrush would improve its response quality and many more improvements. Today this has come true. My dream has come true that this German brand would be It would be surpassing the Iwata Micron, and the precedents towards the future will be increasingly better in improvements.
@@371928371928 that is exactly what I wanted for the infinity aswell h&s deserve to be at the top in 2024 with what they have done for the
Beginner the intermediate and now with the infinity
We will have to wait and see if the Japanese brand Iwata will improve or stay the same while the Infinite brand will continue to improve its airbrush technology.
@@371928371928 I think back to when I started with the old h&s focus and now look at what they are achieving it's mind boggling
ROB ON THE GO!
Hi Rob I know onething I'm putting my order in for the infinity 👍
@@stephenpooley7720 you will have a brush that will sit by your side for life 💯👍
Clearly the infinity is the better value of the 2 so in my opinion the infinity is a no brainer 👍
@@PocoCalleCustoms definitely mate hands down for what your getting with this brush and the saving
Indeed a no brainer, but competition with other brands, even under the same holding. Keeps brushers improving with at least TRYING to make a better one. And clips like this gives people who don't have a nice reserve on his/her bankaccount the best value for the money they can spend. I have a few H&S's Ultra 2024, older but still divine Evo, and a regular Infinity, but i do have a few cheaper ones. And they are not the same (never could be) so i use them for priming or less details. 👍🏼
Sorry but no almost same price I'd go with the CM, now I am a bit jaded after paying a pretty penny for 2 H&S AB's and multiple needles and nozzles... that I found out months after buying them and hating them...were intended for applying base coats to scale models and not illustration due to their absolute shiet trigger response.
I am hesitant to trust them for anything other than non precision spraying and if you notice all their marketing is also targeting scale modelers, Dred is the only one that's really using them for illustration. $500 CAD for an infinity is bat guano insane, if they updated the head assembly to something similar to Creos or Iwata CM then sure maybe ask for a premium but at least establish yourself as top 2 airbrush on the market first.
@@guyvogp_Airbhrushaaah the ultra is a great brush that you can upgrade with the evolution front end on a 0.28.mm which makes it get down on the small stuff
Better just a thought for you in the future 👍
@@dredfxcustompaint indeed, with or without the nuzzle. 🙂
impressive comparison... considering the infinity has a nozzle that is considerably larger on the infinity (0.25 vs 0.15 on the Micron - 50%?)... just imagine what a 0.15 Titanium Needle would do! then it's truly apples to apples. Nevertheless, for the money the clear winner is the infinity (which is why i have one on order)
@@leight1392 👍
Japan, Germany... it would be funny if italians joined the race and made a high end airbrush 🤪
@@Pavelek88 👍
WOW if your getting all these comments on which is better, tells me one thing. Most don’t know what they’re doing. And think that one of these brushes are magical. Sorry no they are not. It is your ability. One Other thing I don’t take what most people pushing an airbrush that was given to them. People don’t get it! It takes a lot of practice, I mean a lot. Most of the top airbrushes if that’s what they’re called. Can take a lot of different airbrushes and make them whistle dixie.
So here's a thing, Rob may have been given the Airbrush, but he has, like you have stated, practiced a lot. So much in fact that a factory who manufacturers one of the airbrushes looked at his work, looked at his comments and contacted him. And incidentally one of the comments Rob was making was a suggestion on how to improve the airbrush. I think most of those people who you think do not know what they are doing, can decide for themselves whether or not Rob has sold his soul for 1 airbrush and a visit to Germany. Also, maybe most of the people have already decided that they trust Rob's opinion and view his videos for good advice. Regards other makes of airbrush, there are bad ones, good ones and great ones. A skilled artist will be able use any of them, however any fool can be uncomfortable, as a skilled workman I buy the best kit I can to make my process easier. Your comment sounds quite bitter, do you not get the recognition you think you deserve? Maybe when you grow up you may have a more enlightened opinion.
of no use then,,, its stupid down, and, ridiculous, you said it🤣i do need a micron but a later date, am fine with my cheap kit for now...
Main reason i bought cheap kit, was, is it a hobby i want do long term. I was same with my sim racing, started cheaper, then built it up, that wasn't cheap...
I THINK THE H&S IS BEST!!!!!! 🤫 😂
@@StickPrintPaint 💪💪👍
put it against the eclipse please
@@leatherforpets3636 which eclipse the takumi?
@@dredfxcustompaint either regular eclipse or the takumi eclipse as they both spray the same. eclipse can do some amazing detail so it would be nice to see how it performs against your infinity
@@leatherforpets3636 👍ok
Good comparisons. But it seems the Chinese are upping the game with the Gaahleri airbrushes
i just got them and sent them back.(mobius 0.2 and swallowtail). if you come from iwata or 2024 h&s u won't be able to deal with that build quality. threads are rubbish and there are so many imperfections and bad machining. they only step up in investing into the marketing
primerooooo
But seriously, do not consider the 2024 as an updated version of the old Infinity. It has the same name but that is pretty much all that survives.
@@StickPrintPaint yes totally agree 👍
They need to get the price down on these, H&S charging CM prices is crazy. I'd take a well established CM, Sotar 2020 or PS771 over it.
@@scottyboy6269 h&s are not charging cm prices 🤔
dude wake up is less than half of CM price and comes with many more smart features to make your life easier cleaning it also the threaded parts are coming together better than on iwata which mean they are working with smaller tolerances on probably more accurate CNC machines. if iwata charges 450£ for CM v2 and CM takumi H&S could easily charge 500£ for this infinity 2024
@@dredfxcustompaint I went on their website, $400 CAD with delivery, then duties and taxes is about $550 Landed cost, that's what CM gravity feed was going for
The 2 in 1 is then far more
@@MihaiDobrin88 Let me math this for you CM is $659 CAD no discount. H&S single setup ordering one from H&S is $400 CAD then about $150 in duties and taxes for a total landed cost of $550 might be more with brokerage fees.
No need to be a jackass and lie to make a point when the #'s are right there on the interwebs.
Also their previous ABs were garbage, if they want to charge premiums they need to prove their new ABs aren't crap which they haven't because everyone else hasn't reviewed them due to unavailability. Unless you include the modelers but who cares about them they are getting paid, eg. Squidmar.
@@scottyboy6269 well i get your point. didn't take into account your import charges. all i can say is that i have 4 iwata Eclipse Takumi, HP-TH-2, RG3L, LPH80 Luxury Edition and i never used h&s before. i just got their new 2024 lineup Ultra 2024, Evolution Squidmar Black Edition 2024 and now i am waiting for Infinity Squidmar 2024. The build quality on Ultra 24 and Evo 24 is definitley higher than iwata so i expect the same from Infinity 24. Evo trigger is accurate and responsive like eclipse takumi but is not as soft as takumi it has a bit more tension in it and is not working as well as eclipse with thicker paints. infinity has tension adjustment so you can deal it in the way u like it. i don't have micron to test it against infinity 24 but from what everybody complained about old infinity vs cm was the trigger delay and issues with thicker paints. Also i know for sure that CM has the same accuracy and response and trigger like eclipse takumi so i'll be able to see if infinity 24 matches them or is just marketing and i can let u know. i think i will get mine in about 2 weeks
I think Iwata wins; if I remember correctly...H&S are now an Iwata company...just saying.
@@ernestjunior3080 I know the set up when it comes to that part but I think h&s deserve top place for this one
@@dredfxcustompaint i think he was ironic. he meant that h&s is owned by iwata so in the end iwata is the winner since owns h&s
@@MihaiDobrin88 in reality DISNEY WILL BUY BOTH COMPANIES NEXT WEEK, then Black Rock will buy DISNEY ...jiji
Please, stop uploading more videos of Infinity 2024 :-D I (pretty sure there are plenty more of us) can't wait for mine to come just to watch you putting it on the pedestal which I'm sure it deserves. It is pure pain to see how great this Infinity is and not having it, yet.
@@Krejza82 tomorrow's video will be with something else I promise 😉 Enjoy yours when it turns up I know you will
@@dredfxcustompaint I will. Almost like you do. Thanks.