These Fighters Were Too BROKEN for Smash…
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2023
- Smash Bros. has a lot of strong characters, but which ones were SO broken that they had to be banned? These 8 fighters broke Super Smash Bros. with overpowered moves, combos and abilities...but which ones had to get completely banned from competitive play?
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You see, it's called Smash 4 because it was intended to last 4 years (definitely lmao)
No, 4 ever 💀
Well, that's not great news for ultimate then lol
@@SpaceX0ne everyone was quick to move to Ultimate basically as soon as it dropped, and Smash 4 tournaments quickly fell off approaching Ultimate's release (which was 4 years after the game released)
@@cjlite0210who are you talking to
Meanwhile, Melee was released in 2001 because it will last 2001 years.
steve is a polygonal freak of nature. it's pretty obvious that even without the glitches you mentioned, he's basically unstoppable.
nah. steve would still be here without the glitch
And knowing Nintendo, they won’t be needing Steve anytime soon, because they just create DLC characters, that would have been good in the base game, So OVERPOWERED to the point where it would be impossible to play Online Smash fairly without paying an overpriced amount for ONE character, all because Nintendo is just a bunch of greedy people who don’t listen to their community.
He's not basically unstoppable. He's a weird character that doesn't have to respect all of the same rules as the rest of the cast and has some matchups that are basically hopeless for the opponent, but he also has unique weaknesses and he has plenty of even matchups, plus a couple losing ones.
Hes not that broken. Hes a very good character yes, but he has losing matches, and flaws.
@@Wienerdog5Not exactly, If someone master Steve its invencible
To quote another UA-cam comment:
"Banning wobbling is my favorite analogy, because it was a single instance of something breaking the risk reward structure too much.
Steve is running up against accusations of being a whole character of near wobbling, putting its hands in the face of these accusations, and going 'im not touching you im not touching you'"
When it comes to hero I personally I think the randomness was a problem sure it’s random but we allow game and watch and Luigi so obviously we don’t ban everything random on that basis
The real issue was the command menu (and though done could probably use some adjustments that’s not necessary an issue)
The language barrier inherent to that menu is a serious issue I’m surprised it was never addressed just add some Unmistakable icons and it would have been fine
Indeed. Make no mistake; If Hero had been anywhere near top-tier, he would've been banned ages ago.
It’s a good thing hero is pretty bad and you’re unlikely to be lucky enough to win a whole tournament. I haven’t even though of the language issue, it makes so much sense.
@@jacksonwilliams5399 I’m surprised it was a talking point during international tournaments that if the switch is set to a language you can’t read even with a perfect understanding of the letters your going to have slower reaction times than a native speaker
Hard to see the unmistakable icons on such a small screen though
Yeah language barrier was my reason. International tournaments should not give a region an advantage in any way
5:07 imagine quitting a game just because your broken, almost guarenteed zero to death move isnt allowed anymore.
Seems like that person will not be missed
I just love the fact that the smash community had a meltdown over funny block man before he was absolutely broken
He was ALWAYS broken from the start, nobody knew yet until people started optimizing him like 2 days after his release, Nintendo buffed him 2 times in a row, aaaaand I'm pretty sure the final straw to break the camel's back was discovering this tech on top of everything else.
@@themarioking7127 Yeah, it's unfortunate that it took so long for people to realize how good Steve is. Thanks to the fact that people noticed how strong Aegis is immediately, she was nerfed a little bit.
I find it very iconic that the top of the top quit the game/character because ONE free-stock technique is banned. It almost makes them seem like they were no where near as good since they're being carried by an exploit
You mean ironic? Or were they iconic players? Just a bit confused
Which exploit are you referring to?
that;s because they were
@@ijarbis187 Wobbling in Melee
meta knight was never actually banned, even tho people say he was. the reason why he was never banned was cuz tristate was the most powerful region in brawl, and all the meta knights lived there, so they said that if tournaments banned him, they wouldnt show up. it was the same in japan; they wouldnt fly over here if meta knight was banned, so we essentially had no choice but to let him free.
He wss banned for a few months untill all everyone complained
Tbf Meta Knight vs Meta Knight is pretty interesting as long as M2K isn't involved. And Brawl Doubles go crazy
@@illford6921 Yeah, Meta Knight is busted but he can play a legit game of smash still. The worst top tier is Icies
So they pulled a nepotism boycott?
@killercore007 moreso an Olympus Boycott
The fact that hero never got banned is genuinely dumbfounding to me. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE hero, but he has no place in a competitive format.
Also that match of the two Bayos stalling, that crowd deserved it considering they disrespected the players on set
looked like CaptainZack though, fuck that guy
Greninja? My main? Ooo, I’m really interested now! ^.^
Edit: Wow… that… really hurt to watch……. I knew that Greninja was continuously nerfed, and was aware of the meme “better nerf Greninja”, but that was very sad to see… I only played a few hours online in Smash 4, and was TRAAAAASH. Not that I’m not in Ultimate, but still lol…….
I don’t know if I would say Greninja is Top Tier, but definitely a High Tier!
Don’t worry, Greninja was never actually banned and the top tier contenders were quoted as being “very stupid”. While yes, people wanted Gren banned in the early months, after learning about the meta, it was discovered that the ninja frog had clear faults and the patches made him drop further, but it was too late to turn back. If you don’t believe me on how the contenders are stupid at times, look up the discussion on the Wii U Mii characters and why they were banned. It was a mess
Greninja being “busted” was very much an early meta misconception which wasn’t actually the case. He did get a few notable nerfs early on but even before the nerfs, Greninja was a very flawed character and his high perception came from the fact the character and the game was new, so people didn’t know the matchup or even how to play the game very well for that matter. While there were notable nerfs, they weren’t drastic changes which pushed him from top tier to mid tier. I get why some people hyped him up early on but it was something that just wasn’t the case in hindsight and you will find that with the early history of literally any competitive game.
And “Greninja was continuously nerfed” is just flat out not true at all. It is a blatantly false misconception. In the game’s first major balance patch (3DS to Wii U), Greninja did get a few notable nerfs but in later patches, Greninja almost exclusively got buffs in many future updates and some of his buffs were actually really good changes which aided his gameplan and ironed out certain weaknesses. He got a few initial nerfs but then he got continuous buffs.
I heard hero was also banned because not everyone would speak the same language in some tourneys, making down B not readable for some.
Steve can literally carry a whole shulker-filled inventory of 64 stacked blue ice(which is 81 buckets of water, which a bucket of water is basically almost infinite, so 64x27x81) with netherite armor equipped. and with his midair block placing ability steve would be just super op
and mid air minecarts bruh those are so annoying
Yet steve still isn't even top 10 strongest in the roster
Terrarian victim
He is? Or at least pro players think he is. It’s pretty subjective but your stating your opinion as a fact
@@3clisp315 Bruh what the hell steve is the character more poweful in the game.
what's funny is Steve can't even place blocks midair in HIS OWN GAME
@@3clisp315Steve is literally Top 1 Strongest Character in Smash
As an ultimate Gre main "BetterNerfGreninja" hurts me to my core
nerf genji
@@user_Z- nooooooooooooo
u and me both brutha 🥲
Actually melee has a lot of banned tech (usually stalling related so fair) but there’s actually an even more broken set up for ice climbers that was never legal
It’s preformed by having nana grab an opponent and either pun king, forward throwing or uo thrusting the opponent and then having popo preform squal hammer during the pre release hit
Doing this permanently freezes your opponent so you can rack up basically infinite damage as they are completely locked into that position
There are exactly 2 ways to cancel the freeze grabbing (something that actually makes sense) and getting hit by the screw attack item (fir some reason)
Now this is because of some hitlag mungo jumbo where the squal hammer interrupts the grabs hitlag that’s supposed to cancel the animation and as such puts them in perpetual hitlag and consequently completely unable to move
This was patched by the PAL release but no one plays PAL for a number of reasons
Idk, I wouldn’t call it more broken. It’s 10x harder to pull off and literally the only real difference between it and wobbling is that you can rack up damage faster with freeze, and if stalling is allowed, you can just use the bathroom while you’re waiting for time to run out.
I always thought it was stupid that the freeze glitch was banned but wobbling wasn’t since they’re essentially the same thing. If anything, it should’ve been the other way around since the freeze glitch is way harder to get.
@@thunderd7904 idk about you but i think freezing your opponent so they can't do anything is insane. wobbling and freezeglitch are not in the slightest the same thing. it's also not even that hard to do (i can do it). both are bad for the game but at least wobbling had a little bit of counterplay before it was banned. freeze glitch doesn't have any counterplay.
@@novaaze1975 I still don't see the difference. The opponent literally can't do anything in either situation; they're stuck regardless. Both are initiated from a grab and achieve a stock loss. Again, the only real difference is that with freeze glitch, you can put down your controller whereas with wobbling you have to keep doing the inputs (which isn't hard) so again, what's the difference?
@@thunderd7904 when stalling wasn’t regulated at all there was a huge difference. Puff has a banned stall like this with sing stalling. It’s an absolutely massive advantage to not have to play the game. With wobbling you couldn’t go on forever with the 300% limit
@@novaaze1975 well it’s kind of one in the same since the 300% limit was introduced to prevent stalling
remember when people were calling for Hero bans
and Joker bans
and Banjo bans
I still think Magolor should've been added into Ultimate
Can be added in the next Smash game just like Bandana Waddle Dee
I just want tails on smash
Yeah... Totally deserve an invite
@@Shiny__Eevee Doctor Eggman deserves that place.
Gotta add smash 4 miis to that list the first smash characters to be widely banned. And were heavily restricted in brackets they were allowed in (1111 medium mii only).
I had no clue that Steve was broken
fox is played in melee more than bayo in 4 straight up
Yknow every time I see talks about banning Steve over phantom mlg I notice a distinct lack of the bug outside of training mode
Greninja was never an OP/broken character in Smash 4, not even close. As someone who has played and heavily researched early Smash 4 3DS, I can very confidently say that Greninja’s hype back then was simply early meta syndrome (similar to how some people thought K Rool was OP in early Ultimate but he really wasn’t. Greninja was a mid tier in the later stages in Smash 4 and in vanilla, I’d say he was high tier at the most.
Greninja’s Up Smash was really good back then and the main highlight vanilla Greninja had over later versions of Smash 4. Definitely one of the best up smashes in the game back then. However, it wasn’t perfect. The move was mainly strong when the opponent was above you (being a nasty anti-air) but it wasn’t quite as strong if the opponent was in front. It had good range and decent power but it did come out fairly slowly, so it wasn’t particularly hard to shield. It was hard to punish due to the move’s low ending lag but it could still potentially be punished depending on how Greninja used it, especially with a powershield. Even if you couldn’t punish the move, you still had a decent frame advantage against Greninja which you could utilise. Additionally, early 3DS had a different DI system and you could utilise it to reduce the combo and KO potential of Greninja’s up smash, which could otherwise be really nasty. The nerfs to up smash were significant but not quite tippy top tier to mid tier significant. It was still a really good anti-air, it just lost its combo potential and became easier to punish.
Greninja’s landing lag cancel with Shadow Sneak wasn’t actually very good. It could be used as a landing mixup at best. The main limitation which the landing lag cancel had is that it had a whole 16 frames of startup where Greninja was completely vulnerable. This meant that it was easily punishable and it didn’t even reduce the landing lag of a majority of Greninja’s aerials. The opponent had consistent punishes for Greninja’s aerials whether he performed the cancel or not. It also had almost no combo potential as Shadow Sneak was so slow and the Shadow Sneak itself was extremely risky. Even when used as a landing lag cancel, Shadow Sneak came out extremely slowly and it had extremely high ending lag (even higher than in later versions of Smash 4). The move was a death sentence on shield and if the opponent predicted you were going for the landing lag cancel, they could very easily shield the Shadow Sneak and get a monumental punish (a much bigger punish compared to if they didn’t shield at all). The Shadow Sneak also didn’t hit as hard as later versions as a sidenote. It wasn’t useless as you could use it as a landing mixup but it was purely a landing mixup, and an extremely risky one at that. It is a shame that Greninja lost it but losing it wasn’t s game changer or anything.
And those are the main things I wanted to mention. Greninja did get some other notable nerfs such as to fair and uair but nothing that was too significant. Greninja also ended up getting some pretty significant buffs later on, such as his grab and Shuriken becoming much faster, noticeably improving his punish game and his camping potential. Greninja wasn’t a bad character in early 3DS but he wasn’t a super top tier either, and his changes weren’t as harmful as often perceived. I understand why he was hyped up in early Smash 4 but I can guarantee you that if Smash 4 didn’t get balance patches, he still would have fallen off as the meta progressed. Early Smash 4 3DS had much nastier characters than Greninja. Sheik and Rosalina in particular were absolutely insane in early 3DS and they got some pretty significant nerfs in later versions (while still remaining top tier after all of their nerfs). Those two characters in the original 3DS form were probably the strongest characters Smash 4 saw outside of DLC. Sorry this comment was so long, I just have so much to say about this topic (I even made a whole video on the topic).
Bro why you put your school essay about greninja here
@@judemyervector
Ong, but I am not upset about it
So in short everyone back then was just whining.
Maybe. The game was still new and unoptimised so people hadn’t quite figured out the matchup or the game for that matter. There were even more characters who were considered top tier back then who absolutely weren’t (even less so than Greninja) such as Yoshi and Little Mac. It’s just what happens when a game is new.
I am extremely offended to learn that Greninja was almost banned, as it is my favorite Pokémon.
10:53 Obligatory "Cloud is in the Kingdom Hearts series including the second game _Chain of Memories_ exclusively for the Nintendo Gameboy Advance and the sixth game _Re:Coded_ exclusively for the Nintendo DS." comment.
Wasn’t the real reason for the hero ban because of the language barrier of needing to read?
I can totally knew how the Ice Climbers were broken because they couldn’t make it to Smash 4 due to the 3DS not allowing to controllers to fighters in 1 player. The Wii U was doing fine but the 3DS couldn’t handle it due to being a limited to software like only allowing 4 Fighters on screen and it could not do 8 fighters on screen with 2 characters being 1 Player each. It was just too much for Nintendo they were going to add it to Wii U and 3DS as DLC but ended up being cancelled because the 3DS couldn’t handle 2 same size characters with the exact same moves for 4 Players which makes it 8 in total.
Great video overall, although I do have a few corrections to make, especially regarding Cloud in doubles:
Double Cloud was actually nowhere near the best team composition with the character, since both of them still had the exploitable weakness of their recovery. People generally agreed that Cloud was much better when paired with characters who had decent recoveries, cause were less likely to get gimped at low percents and could more easily save Cloud when he was recovering offstage (Pikachu, Sheik, Bayo, etc). In fact, if you look at the best doubles teams in Smash 4 (Mkleo/Javi, ZeRo/Nairo, Esam/MVD, Komorikiri/Ranai, etc) all of them used Cloud + another character instead of double Cloud - the only ones that did use double Cloud were Leo/Komo on the few occasions they teamed and Leo/Javi, but even then Javi used Sheik as much as, if not more than Cloud.
It was for these reasons that GOML actually received a lot of criticism for only banning double Cloud - not because the ban went too far, but because people felt that it didn't go far enough to address the issue. The problem wasn't double Cloud - it was straight up just Cloud, period.
Also, the Greninja tech you showed on screen at 9:19 was actually an unrelated tech called the shadow sneak slide, which never got patched out of the game. I imagine you probably showed it instead just cause there isn't much footage of the you were talking about, so I won't really particularly fault you for that. Just thought it was worth pointing out
Again, not trying to be overly negative or anything, cause this is still a really well done video. Just wanted to correct a few of the mistakes I noticed
It's a good thing i dislike the competitive scene entirely due to bullying I've suffered.
damn sorry to hear that that's cringe
@Dragonfruit Thanks. I just hate the competitive scene because they take it way too seriously and complain about every single thing. "Use this character!" Don't use that character!" "You're supposed to follow these rules." Sakurai specifically gave every stage a battlefield or Final Destination form yet they ignore it and complain.
I really disliked it just because none of the characters I actually liked were anything but low to bottom tier.
I’m a principled DK main, that doesn’t let you get far.
Steve doesn't feel like he's nearly as bad of an issue as smash 4 bayo or brawl meta night. He's annoying, he's slippery, and he has some game breaking glitch but then just give him the ice climber treatment and ban that one tech.
It feels like he isnt as bad because hes nowhere near the same level. It's just smash ultimate is full of idiots.
It’s too hard for tournaments to manage pmlg, also it was easy the ban him since he sucks to watch in competitive play.
Firstly, the video literally explained right at the start that it was nigh impossible to enforce, as EVERY tournament would have to pour hours into reviewing the footage of every Steve match just to see if he used the tech during it or not. Secondly, Steve is 100% on par with B4yo and 🅱️etaknight in his own unique way. B4yo made every interaction a death trap, as a single stray hit could lead to a 0 to death and Witch Time made it far too dangerous to attack as she could get a free 0 to death. 🅱️era knight was overpowered because he could completely circumvent the game’s clumsy mechanics (chaingrabbing, tripping) while excelling at every facet of regular gameplay, such as a perfect recovery, massive amount of jumps, a sword that outranged MARTH, etc. etc. Steve just doesn’t play the game. He can create new platforms to gain the high ground, build nooks to turtle, hit the opponent with a lighting fast hitgrab/tatsu that can take them straight to the blast zone, deal massive amounts of damage with the right tools, perform setplay with TNT that ALSO covers nearly all ledge options BY ITSELF, gain combo extensions using blocks, combo other people across the stage, has a recovery that makes 🅱️etaknight look like Little Mac, and to top it all off he violates the two sacred rules of Keepaway characters;
1. Do not have a limitless supply of the resource that allows Keepaways to retreat safely (blocks, minecarts, etc.)
2. Do not give them a passive win condition (diamonds). Steve 100% deserved to be banned even without his glitches, as every match would devolve into horrid Steve mirror matches, where at least B4yo and 🅱️etaknight are entertaining, Steve is downright mind numbing.
@@callumbreton8930
🤓☝️
@@callumbreton8930
"Recovery that makes Meta Knight look like Little Mac"
The recovery in question: Side-B into Up-B. Maybe some fancy gliding.
Meanwhile, Meta Knight can recover from anywhere with each of his four special moves, and his gliding makes Steve's look more like falling with style. He can literally glide from blastzone to blastzone three times over.
Steve's zero to deaths and defensive options are a fraction of what Sm4sh Bayonetta are. Bayonetta could turn literally every neutral interaction into a stock, and it was braindead easy.
And comparing Steve to Meta Knight in any aspect? Laughable.
Meta Knight has a brutally overpowering neutral, unparalleled shield pressure, the safest and most effective camping in Smash history, out of the charts mobility, incredible edgeguarding, ledge trapping, reversals. You name it, Meta Knight has it.
He singlehandedly got over half of the stages in the game banned. He makes a character that can kill you at 0 off of one grab look like a low tier. He can literally become *completely invincible* by just mashing one of his specials. He has *better framedata* than Steve's Golden tools, with the same kill power as Diamond. He singlehandedly made any character that doesn't *hard counter* him *unviable.*
Why are my mains in the thumbnail
I had no idea that Greninja was the final evolution of a starter Pokemon 😮
HE ACTUALLY POSTED
quitting a player because you can't use a busted strat that basically is a free stock is so wild to me
did not expect to see a clip of me in this video LOL 2:20
From melee to ultimate: most broken characters
Melee: shiek
Brawl: Meta knight
WiiU/3DS: Bayonetta
Ultimate: Steve
(Based on tournament wins and combos)
2:18
I didn't know the Phantom MLG Steve and I wouldn't be disqualified because I only use some block plus fake attacks to annoy the opponent.
dude why is he using mark robers theme (kinda random)
Hero is not broken. His abilities are balanced by his slower frame data, and his fall speed is very slow. If you get him in the air he’s screwed.
The randomness adds a chaotic factor which forces people to adapt on the fly. Smash autists don’t like him because it prevents them from being able to rely on autistically memorizing all the characters move sets so they can automatically counter each attack through muscle memory. They want everything to be clean and predictable so that the fight simply boils down to who has the fastest reaction time rather than actual strategy.
They always banned the best character of the game, everytime
Bruh my Three Main Fighters are on the Video Thumbnail.
3:50 I'm such a goddamn nerd that I recognized that this is the broom from Fallout 4
Steve is so op steve can ladder combo you to kingdom come
@Siiroth What is the name of the Kirby Theme that plays at the beginning of the video?
Sky Tower from Return to Dream Land
@@goatresx1799 Thanks! I know it was a Kirby Theme! I just forgot what theme it was! There are WAY TOO MANY Kirby Themes! BTW! LOL!
of course steve is broken, he can literally carry TONS of STATUES of LIBBERTIES
Basically Game turns into craft universe that trumps regular smash play minecraft sales going up from smash lol.
Thanks for having dio in your video for about 1 second
Imagine quitting the game because the wobbling technique was banned, not even a 3 year old is that pathetic.
Also it was way easier to tell if wobbling was happening than if Steve does the phantom dodge. Plus the Steve players could simply press it on accident and get banned for it. Would be great if it could be patched out, or even a fan mod would be nice. However I don’t think Nintendo will bother with a patch and they definitely won’t allow a mod in official tournaments in their current smash game.
What's the intro song called?
Also the song at 1:37 pls 🙏
"Wobbling is banned in france."
Me in belgium:
3:59 What Is this song it is so dramatic and 🔥
I feel like bigger issue with hero is some people cant read the language if they are coming from overseas
Love how people got mad other characters where being used all the time when fox is still the most used character
I remember the "ban Sonic" movement back in 2020... ah, good times
Bayo is either one of the best high tiers or one of the worst top tiers, similar to Terry imo. Her weaknesses technically exist but she has so many unique options that they don’t matter. Her landing lag is often a non issue since she can use her specials to retreat to ledge or witch time to cancel all lag and kill YOU for trying to punish her. Her kill power as you said is actually not bad, and even if she’s not killing you until 180%, she got most of that damage off of two combos. She’s tall and light but has one of the best disadvantage states in the game, so abusing that is not easy.
This was posted on my birthday😊
I am NOWHERE CLOSE to these gamers but everytime I play with sepheroth and his shield is op, if someone attacks me with a direct attack shield and after attack is so usefull, my friend plays usually with bayonetta and when she uses the giant hand on me she's ALLWAYS in the mercy of my attack
Its fun to think that the most op character in smash ultimate is MINECRAFT Steve
Steve is broken, he has a answer for everything and he’s literally built around digging which makes digging super easy so do then counter those who come at you while digging, and he has he side tilt into spike off map. Literally so hard to DI that even at low Hp and DI you’re getting spiked
When the lore accurate steve joins the battle
Whatsong is playing at 9:03
Is it possible to ban a character in super smash on your own account?
wait what the actual fuck. WHY IS PUFF ABOVE FOX ON THAT MELEE TIER LIST!!
Me who mains Greninja and Meta Knight:Oh fu-
Edit:Greninja/Aegis rn
3:02 aint no way he just showed a "current" tier list with jiggly puff above fox
It's funny that a game that wasn't supposed to have competitive plays like this just becomes this
Man Everybody hates Greninja for being OP. Ash-Greninja got nerfed in scarlet&violet and I didn't know smash greninja was nerfed too 😂😂😂
Why it zoom in like that XD 8:34
1:08 Henry stickmin!😂
Stickman ?
@@Mel0nKittynope stickMIN
Just charge people a fee to Play that Character in the Tournament... depending on the size of the venue and tournament, the fee can scale depending on if it's a E3 Calibre event imagine having to pay a few hundreds to play a character
His editor got better
15:41 oh my god unite isnt pay to win
you can get everything that affects play without money
people who pay dont get a distinct advantage
And last imagine all players with lvl ...
Stats like smash wii u ... Advanced fool fan
Basics:
1 everytime u reset lvl skill etc u loose 1 lvl bonus... And can have 1 skill refunfer at lvl 100
2 time lvl100 one star
At lvl 100 2 star .... 3 chance (long lvl up)
When at lvl 100 / 3 star ..... Its one in a year
At lvl 1 u can choose 3 ennemy to decrease chance to fight agaist and apply bonus with with Them (random by ur game général 18:03 stats agaist
And 3 ally to have to partner with (can be change every day) bonus random too but général stats!
Plus 1 caracter universe unique item like super champs u can have item .26 more big or release
Each lvl u can up (in%) ur def, att, attack spd .... Spd magic resist.. shield grab throw power or spd...etc
and boost 1 Button stats like dam dealt on shield, grab or running ennemy😏 , recoil more far the enemy speed movement, speed inialcast..... Etc ... Ex bordelands 2
At 100 u can reset caracter with 1 star and start lvl 1 and can uprade your stat by 2_ ex uprade shield capacity at lvl 1 0,4 % at lvl 2 is 0,8_,... And can change ur iniatilal stats ...smash wii u
Each lvl 1 Bégon 1 dtarYour unique items chance drop + 10%
Choose an item want upgrade drop by 10 except yours
1 star Enemy/ally mark can go to 6 or 5-3 (minimal of 2 ennemy or ally)
3 star player is thirthy percent bonus (1 and 2 togeth😅er) are allowed and can change taunt by 1 every B caracter move.,. start stat at initial damage and are 3nd bonus lvl upgrade u can have.....
Ally can up to ----16ennemy/ ally----- (minimal 1 friend or ennemy)
Cause 1 both each u can place the bonus you want..like smash spd etc
And have 25 % more to party with this two one, if number is equal
If one enemy or Ally 80%
If 2-3-4 ennemy or Ally ITs 60©
At 5 = 50
At 6 33
At 3 star lvl 100 hero, you earn 1 ur last detiny u can back your initilal or (ne er sure with number)75% of stat refund is free choice + double 1 stats of each b attack + third attack have random bonus with caracter with same attack... And 3 caracter with ally and enemy have play give stat too....
Imagine if with each u play is memorised...
If u play faster whit fox as ally(FOX😮 Ally set by u) add random max bonus like speed mouvement etc.. team can have like lESS dam receive because 2,of you have same ennemy.... u can earn by time and change by time... Its just by random général stats game.....
When complete u start ur dojo every week u can create 1 time create ur own tournament with 49 other player (or 99 batle royale)
if u win 3 times your tournament in a month u elligible to fight agaist top tier real champion (like mkleo) in a tournament with ur dojo rule...
If u win u can have sponso ... And create the différence 😀 Smash RPG Ultimate Maker With a ton of peach a daysy with ultra feminist power ... Where that can 1 shot u if 2 caracter is completly diff
Well the player in terraria is 8 bit and we see 8bit models in the game so why have we gotten a 8bit fighter or a Thor 8bit final smash like Pac-Man
When wobbling got banned these 0 skill ice climber players were never to be seen again
Imagine in tournament....all map are allowed iand you can discard 3 to 6 map trought the match and cant use same map trought next player
Its yo have hype
Master (Goro (mk)) hand with handicap yo max all hand have His mechanic 1 is a copycat.... One attack every 4 ... One is a shield Breaker and last hand always attack with an other hand
Steve officially best ultimate character?
I’ve never noticed any of those things when i was playing it
What video was that cat sound from?
2 of my mains are on here 😂😂😂
(Greninja and meta night)
Man I love watching people get mad at my main (meta knight) jus funny
If nintendo wasnt greedy and released balanced characters (which they are perfectly capable of) instead of stereoid-fed tuned up freaks so that every kid and their mother will buy them in order to be graced by a victory screen the game would be alot healthier and viewship would be probably as high as the top Esports. I've played all of the dlc chars , they are so relaxing to play and have so much free sht to compensate for your lack of inputs and/or capacity to read it is very noticeable. Some more than others. From Pythra's free frames, stupidly unfair design and busted "bats within" to kazuya's "you learnt his combos now u get to have free wins for life", but hey let's nerf ice climbers and luigi's 0 to death 50/50 combos on the release of the game to make sure skill doesnt get in the way of our new dlcs.
Can we be real in the fact that if people were to host a casual tournament that is just full of casual players they’d have to ban sora and meta knight. We love and hate spam and they have gotta be the most annoying spammers ever.
Or everyone could play as the Minecraft characters in Ultimate so the the playing field is even
life peaked at the better nerf greninja miiverse era
I honestly hope they fix steve in the next smash game for him to be unbanned
I have to ask. Why are people expecting another smash game?
@@jayde4872 I wouldn’t want one. But so many fans complain when a console releases and there is no new smash game announced, therefore Nintendo HAS to make another, they probably WOULD’VE stopped at brawl.
@@SleepyLuigi I'm saying right now Nintendo would 100% make another smash bros. Not because fan want it but it is a huge money maker, like they able to sell 30 million copies of ultimate. They will make another smash game even it mean not having Sakurai guidance.
@@SleepyLuigi thanks
@@avvu9043 The reason it would be a huge money maker is because fans would want it T_T
am i the only one that hears the music mark rober uses
bandana dee or ninten, they could have won. but noooooo! some coomers wanted bayonetta!
8:34 GYAT
I think meta knight should NOT be banned
Im sorry, GREJINJA, THE FISHSTICK HIMSELF, GOT BANNED!?!?
>Can't think of ways to play around chatacters
WE NEED TO BAN THEM!
I magine you can have wario with mario skin and luigi hat ... About shoe and glove color
Kirby,s browken too
Bro didnt even talk about smash 4 mii brawler
I always forget about that but yeah didn’t Japan ban brawler at least the broken sets
happy Steve still exist 😁
0:32 It’s called super armor/tough guy not the technique for example piranha plants down b
not covering steve is wild
They better nerf pyra and mythra, besides the only reason why they are good is cuz they’re the same character
Why is it when he talks abt fighters pass vol. 1 HE SHOWS POKEMON UNITE AKA MY BABY (although unite is p2w)
Greninja should be the mascot of nerf