If you want great technical ability - Modric , If you want a pass master - KDB If you want a goal scoring mid - Lampard , If you want a midfielder that can do all and play any position - Gerrard . Gerrard is the complete player .
I feel like Gerrard was good at everything. But everyone else you mentioned was better than Gerrard with the abilities you mentioned. Everyone else is just a MASTER at those abilities, while Steve is good all of them
@@tonyfergferg7787 Even as a man u fan, Gerrard was a master passer, master tackler, master in the air, master long shot, master finisher, master leader, master in big games. I wish fergie had been successful in his attempts
Depends on the measure, some qualities don't translate into stats. Others might have had more efficiency, but nobody had better style and finesse than gerrard.
@@pearcegreatesteverleftback03you can continue to mock him because you are a rival fan or something, but deep inside those who actually watched Gerrard, they know how good he is .
@@nathanhenry7692 Honestly. I cannot think of a single season where he didn't have multiple great players around him. Even during his phenomenal run in their Champions League winning season, they don't make it through Juventus and arguably even Chelsea without the stellar performances of Hyypia in those fixtures.
Gerrard was the best in the world for 6 years and I'm sure Pele said that, a monster in midfield. Lampard was amazing at just being in the right place at the right time and scored all those goals as a midfielder. They don't make them like they used to do. Gazza is my all time fav midfielder, and I haven't seen anything like him since. The best dribbler of the ball I've ever seen but of course because he was bat sht crazy, his career couldn't reach the heights that we all wanted it to reach.
Could have just stopped that sentence. Yes Gerrard is the best premier league midfielder of all time. He could do what the rest did but they couldn't do what he did
Best Box-to-box cdm : Keane Vieira Kante essien Fernandinho Best Box-to-box cam : lampard Gerrard kdb Best holding midfielder (destroyer) : makelele mascherano rodri Mikel matic Best holding midfielder (deep lying playmaker) : Carrick Alonso Scholes Best holding midfielder (regista / dictate tempo) : Fabregas Jorginho Best AMF (no 10 playmaker) : ozil modric coutinho hazard Joe Cole cazorla Best SS (no 10) : zola rooney Best wide midfielders : cr7 Beckham giggs pires (those days team play in a 442) Personal favourite were Scholes and modric, as these 2 ticks all the boxes in terms of versatility and understanding of games. 2 of these started as no 10, but later converting to no 8, no 6, or even no 4. Feel free to add on, if I missed out anyone.
No one could do what Gerrard did in an average Liverpool team ??? ,🤔 I fancy yaya toure of Barcelona and man city would have given it a good Crack, but to behonest yaya toure would have matched or out performed Steven Gerrard for like 3 or 4 seasons at best not for 12 to 13 years like Steven G.
KDB can't play cdm or in a double pivot effectively though. Stevie G can play anywhere in the mid and do great. Rb Lb on the wing striker anywhere basically KDB as a 10 is slightly better but the Gerrard Torres combo was lethal.
Don't care about how many positions can Gerrard play, kdb is a midfielder and when it comes to doing what he need to do he does it best, when he will finish his career he will be crowned as the best pl midfielder ever This isn't disrespectful in any case towards Gerard but you've got to appreciate greatness when you see it
@@songoku9830 I mean the question was the ultimate midfielder, de bruyne is arguably the best player maker, scholes the best at dictating play, lampard the best at scoring but Gerrard has the ability to do all of that (I would argue not dictating play the way scholes did though) but if you combine attack and defence Gerrard was the best
@@alfazrahman1994 ultimate midfielder doesn't mean the ability to play multiple positions tho because you can only play one position per match you can't multiply yourself When being played in midfield whether it be dm cm or am the person who does his job better is the better midfielder and kdb does the job he is supposed to do better than the others
@@Do27gg yeah where did I disagree? Kelvin Philips winning something from the bench doesn't mean anything. Mendy also won the worldcup with France, doesn't mean anything
@@left4deadR KDB's medals gonna be stripped & flushed down the toilet of history! What a waste of a career. Should have left the tin pot mickey mouse club with no fans! All MC's players are ready to bail from your tiny outfit!!!
@@TheGreatVivek7who cares he won 11 league titles way more than that bum gerrard. Kroos, pep, xavi all pick scholes. Who picks gerrard? James maddison 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Johndoe-gf7eu no one picks Scholes with short legs. As a matter of fact even in his prime no top club in Europe was interested in him. Literally all ex England players and current ones pick Gerrard, including Mr Short Legs teammate Shrek. Btw Short Legs himself admitted Gerrard was superior than him lol
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@@TheGreatVivek7 Imagine scholes lampard gerrard in 1 team and never bring euro or world cup, thats show how overrated english media is, iniesta xavi busquet 3x time better than this overrated player
Bro thinks football is all about stats. Gerrard could play anywhere in the midfield he was way more versatile and did it in a worse team. The best midfielder of all time Zidane said he wanted to have Gerrard as his partner in the midfield. Another legendary midfielder Scholes admitted that Gerrard was better as well. Gerrard is so clear of Lampard if you know ball.
@@nathanhenry7692 Gerrard was clear of Lampard. Look at the sides they played in, the quality of their teammates, their managers 😂 Plus Gerrard was primarily a box-to-box midfielder, guy could do everything. Lampard was an attacking midfielder. So comparing their goals count is purely illogical. Apples and oranges. However, both Hazard and Salah are wingers that played in the best of teams, managed by world class managers. Comparing their end product makes sense.
@@Noirlore shoots better, defends, better, leads bettter, tackles better, more clutch, shows up in big games, carry a team better, faster, stronger, better stamina, better dribbling, better long shots, better free kicks, better finishing, better set pieces, just a better player overall
@@TheGreatVivek7pretty sure Inter were interested in him at one point. But regardless that doesn’t change how good Scholes was and his longevity was pretty insane coming out of retirement aged 37 to help win another league title.
Scholes in a successful team. Acting like he single handedly carried united. Carried is what Gerrard did in 2005 & 2006 cup finals. Scoring bangers? Literally Gerrards bread and butter.
Ultimate midfielders & Paul Scholes, the role model for players like Xavi, Iniesta isn't even an option is funny. Underrating his skillset is why we as a nation continue to win nothing.
@@alexcoupe. Paulscholes never controlled games, people just came up with an argument for scholes. All he did was pass back , play long passes and always played safe. He never had the ability to do special things like kdb, Gerrard or lampard
Been watching the Premier League for over 15 years now, and I just figured out that Palace vs Brighton is a derby..
same😂
Fan fact - Brighton coined their nickname SEAGULLS while responding their rivals Crystal Palace for EAGLES😂
Earlier they were called DOLPHINS
@@blue_moon47 Are they in the same city?
@@TheFalse9TMtheir not no, it’s called the A23 derby
@@TheFalse9TMboth teams are from south of england
If you want great technical ability - Modric , If you want a pass master - KDB If you want a goal scoring mid - Lampard , If you want a midfielder that can do all and play any position - Gerrard . Gerrard is the complete player .
I feel like Gerrard was good at everything. But everyone else you mentioned was better than Gerrard with the abilities you mentioned. Everyone else is just a MASTER at those abilities, while Steve is good all of them
@@tonyfergferg7787 Even as a man u fan, Gerrard was a master passer, master tackler, master in the air, master long shot, master finisher, master leader, master in big games. I wish fergie had been successful in his attempts
Modric is not a Premier league great. He was a decent player and that’s it.
Scholes enters the chat
@@Jay31685scholes left the chat
Gerrard one of the best midfielders ever played in premier league... What a player he was
How many PL title he won?
@@himeldasgupta7010how many Pl title you won?
@@luke7962 are you brain dead?
Arsenal fan here, Gerrard is one the goats of the prem, no discussion, absolute machine.
whys this even a debate at all
@@cerb12 because people always have something to say.
Kdb is coming
Prime Bowyer was better… but nobody dare say it
Realistically Kdb is clear, more trophy’s and better stats
Gerrard has the most appearances in the EPL Team of the Year by some distance and featured FifPro team of the year three years in a row!
Depends on the measure, some qualities don't translate into stats. Others might have had more efficiency, but nobody had better style and finesse than gerrard.
Gerrard will forever be pl greatest ever midfielder. No matter how you mock him for mistakes or whatever
KDB is way better lmao
For wining no PL titles you mean?🤣🤣
@@deathwat9113 No way. Kdb is second tho. Gerrard is literally an animal
@@Joshua-w5y KDB has literaly better stats and has won more premier league than Gerrard.
@@pearcegreatesteverleftback03you can continue to mock him because you are a rival fan or something, but deep inside those who actually watched Gerrard, they know how good he is .
Gerrard single handedly carried gimmick teams around him. He is the greatest.
Greatest? Nah.
When did Gerrard ever single-handedly carry a team?
Mascherano
Xavi Alonso
Dietmar Hamann
All very good midfielders. Gerrard had a good team around him. For most of his Liverpool career.
@@nathanhenry7692 Honestly. I cannot think of a single season where he didn't have multiple great players around him.
Even during his phenomenal run in their Champions League winning season, they don't make it through Juventus and arguably even Chelsea without the stellar performances of Hyypia in those fixtures.
@@cachedreamer UCL Final 2005.
Good man Madders, real football fans know how good Gerrard was on his day
Gerrard was the best in the world for 6 years and I'm sure Pele said that, a monster in midfield. Lampard was amazing at just being in the right place at the right time and scored all those goals as a midfielder.
They don't make them like they used to do. Gazza is my all time fav midfielder, and I haven't seen anything like him since. The best dribbler of the ball I've ever seen but of course because he was bat sht crazy, his career couldn't reach the heights that we all wanted it to reach.
@@todareistodomyfoot8403 100%, Zidane said Gerrard was the best player in the world in 2009 even ahead of Ronaldo and Messi
@todareistodomyfoot8403 I’m assuming you mean best midfield dribbler of all time, because he’s obviously not a better dribbler than Messi
They didnt have scholes to pick from because sky sports is Liverpool biased, so embarrassing, dont even have toure their either😂😂😂
@@dylanmulroe9978😂😂😂😂😂
Respect for giving Stevie his flowers
All England players rate him at the top.
He said after KDB retirement he will be number 1
Maddison picks gerrard, pep and xavi pick scholes, levels to this. No league title bum
@@Johndoe-gf7eu how many CLs does your club have? Levels to this. CRY :)
@@Johndoe-gf7euand scholes picks Gerrard
Stevie G
NOT A CHANCE
The most overrated player of all time
@@Ragnar850hatred is a horrible thing man
@@Ragnar850 there's always Modric or Neymar
never won the league
Patrick Vieira. In a class all by himself.
Yep, below the 4 names mentioned. What a joke to be invincibles with 11 draws
@@TheGreatVivek712
@@TheGreatVivek7and zero losses which has never been done apart from the first 12 game season in the 1880s
A clueless newbie like you should watch netball instead of football @@DavieDavie85
True👍 Viera Scholes premier league 🐐 midfielders
Could have just stopped that sentence. Yes Gerrard is the best premier league midfielder of all time. He could do what the rest did but they couldn't do what he did
He said after KDB retirement he will be number 1
@@AK-yf4bshe said probably. Stop riding KDB like a jockey. Gerrard much better
Hes not even top 5 😂😂😂
The people who pick gerrard is players like maddison😂😂😂ppl who pick scholes is pep, xavi, kroos
Best Box-to-box cdm : Keane Vieira Kante essien Fernandinho
Best Box-to-box cam : lampard Gerrard kdb
Best holding midfielder (destroyer) : makelele mascherano rodri Mikel matic
Best holding midfielder (deep lying playmaker) : Carrick Alonso Scholes
Best holding midfielder (regista / dictate tempo) : Fabregas Jorginho
Best AMF (no 10 playmaker) : ozil modric coutinho hazard Joe Cole cazorla
Best SS (no 10) : zola rooney
Best wide midfielders : cr7 Beckham giggs pires (those days team play in a 442)
Personal favourite were Scholes and modric, as these 2 ticks all the boxes in terms of versatility and understanding of games. 2 of these started as no 10, but later converting to no 8, no 6, or even no 4.
Feel free to add on, if I missed out anyone.
Prime Kante was something else🙌🔥
Stevie G is the best premier League Mid,was world calss as 6 , world class as a 10,world class as an 8.
No one could do what Gerrard did in an average Liverpool team, the GOAT end of story.
Single handedly lose a PL title?
Only coz you say🤣🤣
That team wasn't considered average to any Liverpool fan kown to man
@@MultiMediaLtddo you want to compare it to that united, Chelsea, city, arsenal team back then
No one could do what Gerrard did in an average Liverpool team ??? ,🤔 I fancy yaya toure of Barcelona and man city would have given it a good Crack, but to behonest yaya toure would have matched or out performed Steven Gerrard for like 3 or 4 seasons at best not for 12 to 13 years like Steven G.
Ngolo is the man ❤
KDB can't play cdm or in a double pivot effectively though. Stevie G can play anywhere in the mid and do great. Rb Lb on the wing striker anywhere basically KDB as a 10 is slightly better but the Gerrard Torres combo was lethal.
Don't care about how many positions can Gerrard play, kdb is a midfielder and when it comes to doing what he need to do he does it best, when he will finish his career he will be crowned as the best pl midfielder ever
This isn't disrespectful in any case towards Gerard but you've got to appreciate greatness when you see it
@@songoku9830 Gerrard put Liverpool on his back KDB assisted them.
@@songoku9830 I mean the question was the ultimate midfielder, de bruyne is arguably the best player maker, scholes the best at dictating play, lampard the best at scoring but Gerrard has the ability to do all of that (I would argue not dictating play the way scholes did though) but if you combine attack and defence Gerrard was the best
@@alfazrahman1994 ultimate midfielder doesn't mean the ability to play multiple positions tho because you can only play one position per match you can't multiply yourself
When being played in midfield whether it be dm cm or am the person who does his job better is the better midfielder and kdb does the job he is supposed to do better than the others
You don't ask match winners to play deep
I love Gerrad but anytime kdb.Cuz He is the one who made me fall in love with football
Stevie g and it’s not that close
@@Do27gg kevin debryune, stevie is more famous at slipping than winning a single prem
@@left4deadR same Kevin who is injured 1/3 of a season and can’t turn up for his country?
@@Do27gg yeah where did I disagree? Kelvin Philips winning something from the bench doesn't mean anything. Mendy also won the worldcup with France, doesn't mean anything
@@left4deadR KDB's medals gonna be stripped & flushed down the toilet of history! What a waste of a career. Should have left the tin pot mickey mouse club with no fans! All MC's players are ready to bail from your tiny outfit!!!
@@potjhm1 consolation won't give you a prem title, neither it'll help you sleep at night. You're obsessed about me 🤣
This guys a good lad
Gerrard and Lampard were deep? What?
For England, they were most of the times if you could remember the matches well.
@@aashishkhatiwada9184Yeah so deep that Gerrard thought he was attacking the opposite way on a few occasions vs France, Uruguay etc...
Morgan Rogers’ cold celebration*
Can't wait for Sunday. Come on James!
Gerrad. All day long.
Mr.Gerrard means alot❤
almost an impossible question to answer i would go Scholes but there are many names you could put a great case for
A guy who couldn’t tackle to save his life
@@TheGreatVivek7who cares he won 11 league titles way more than that bum gerrard. Kroos, pep, xavi all pick scholes. Who picks gerrard? James maddison 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Johndoe-gf7eu no one picks Scholes with short legs. As a matter of fact even in his prime no top club in Europe was interested in him. Literally all ex England players and current ones pick Gerrard, including Mr Short Legs teammate Shrek. Btw Short Legs himself admitted Gerrard was superior than him lol
KDB IS TGE BEST MIDFIELDER IN EPL HISTORY IT SHOULD BA A COMMON KNOWLEDGE
Maddison. I wasn’t familiar 🐐
Gerrard was the best mid fielder, he literally carried the team on his shoulder.
Steven Gerrard is the GOAT midfielder 🐐
Even your favourite players knows 😤🔥
The Sonny celebration must be included in best celebration options!!!!!!!
Best celebration is crouchies robot
Gerrard is the GOAT midfield in EPL, no doubt
Patrick Viera
Whats the song in the background at the start
Yaya Toure
I swear Jude must have snipers on players and medias family the way they big him up even when there is KANE AND SON next to him bruh
AMAZING.🔥.
KDB easily. Nostalgia merchants will say otherwise.
For me top 4 celebrations are son palmer rashford and haaland
Harriet Prior, class Liverpool fan ❤
Gerred is underated
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james maddison knows ball.
David Silva was better than Modric and Lampard. As to who is better between Silva, KDB and Gerrard, that's a worthy debate.
Modric is not a PL great. He was a good/decent player but nothing more. Not even sure why he is being brought up.
kdb 6 prems more assists than anybody 1 cl and 12 other trophies gerard remembered for a slip
It’s Kevin debruyne 💙
Roy Keane without a shadow of a doubt. Great captain leader won everything never selfish set standards and the ultimate professional.
😂😂
🤣
the ultimate professional, ULTIMATE
KDB for sure.
post 2010 kid lol
David silva by a long mile, only scholes comes close
Kane above Vardy is insane
never thought a derby between Crystal Palace and Brighton existed😅😆
Gerrard and it’s not even a debate 😂
@@nichollsoli Only in scouseville🤣
@@pearcegreatesteverleftback03em no kid
@@TheGreatVivek7 Um, Yes son
@@pearcegreatesteverleftback03Thats why Fergie & Mourinho wanted Gerrard eh
@@yt2530 Fergie Never did 🤣🤣
Amazing player ❤❤❤❤
It's KDB and it's not even close
For sure? He failed at Chelsea, isn't very great with Belgium and good in a team that spends 600M on average to complete a team.
Stevie all day every day
Fair, but KDB is the only right answer
Madders deserves to play for England at least as a player in the squad he should be
Team KDB is the greatest midfielder in the Premier league ❤❤❤
You started watching football in the year 2011 gloryhunter. If not for oil money you would be supporting PSG or Chelsea 😂
@@TheGreatVivek7 Imagine scholes lampard gerrard in 1 team and never bring euro or world cup, thats show how overrated english media is, iniesta xavi busquet 3x time better than this overrated player
@@theds5834 going by that theory Belgium’s golden generation have failed to deliver too, so KDB must be overrated. I checkmated you with yer own logic
@@TheGreatVivek7 So by your own logic Lakaka is better than Rooney, checkmated mate
@@theds5834 I know it’s hard on the ego but sometimes admit defeat instead of squeezing illogical replies lol
Unpopular opinion modric is the best out of the options
I’d say modric is better than Lampard and Gerrard but that’s based on what he did outside of the PL.
Modric is not half the player Lampard or Gerard were in PL terms. There is absolutely no comparison, none.
Obviously, De Bruyne.
No oily players from artificial clubs
@@TheGreatVivek7 Hence why there are no Liverpool players in the running.
@@QuentinMajor if not for oil money you would be supporting Chelsea or PSG 🤣
@@TheGreatVivek7 If not for an Internet connexion you'd be supporting Bashundhara Kings 😭
@@QuentinMajor no idea who that is lol must be yer home team in Jamaica
Voted for the NLD 1 draw and 2 Ls 😂 I rate Maddison though tbf jokes guy
For me it’s lampard
Frank Lampard. The stats speak for itself
Literally no ex England players or current players ever pick Lampard over Gerrard. That’s yet to happen lol
Bro thinks football is all about stats. Gerrard could play anywhere in the midfield he was way more versatile and did it in a worse team. The best midfielder of all time Zidane said he wanted to have Gerrard as his partner in the midfield. Another legendary midfielder Scholes admitted that Gerrard was better as well. Gerrard is so clear of Lampard if you know ball.
@@Mr.Kruger13 ah so when it’s Lampard it’s not about stats. But when it’s Salah it’s about stats 😂
Gerrard could play in every position other than Goalkeeping
@@nathanhenry7692
Gerrard was clear of Lampard. Look at the sides they played in, the quality of their teammates, their managers 😂
Plus Gerrard was primarily a box-to-box midfielder, guy could do everything. Lampard was an attacking midfielder.
So comparing their goals count is purely illogical. Apples and oranges.
However, both Hazard and Salah are wingers that played in the best of teams, managed by world class managers. Comparing their end product makes sense.
How you tell stories is unmatched!
Gerrard over De Bruyne, isn't even close.
kevin D
If Jesse Pinkman turned into a pro footballer it would be Maddison.
Gerrard... Scholes...KDB .
Kdb>>>scholes
@@Noirlore shoots better, defends, better, leads bettter, tackles better, more clutch, shows up in big games, carry a team better, faster, stronger, better stamina, better dribbling, better long shots, better free kicks, better finishing, better set pieces, just a better player overall
@@Joshua-w5y nahe hen isn't you are just biased because you arw a united fan, KDB is miles better
@@Joshua-w5y it was a toss up... But when you hear that Zidane and ineista thought he was best... 🤷🏼♂️
Gerrard and twice on sundays
Best midfielders are gone now Scholes, keano, viera, Lampard, Gerrard and makelele. Then the likes of modric, carrick, yaya and Rodri
Paul scholes is the greatest. Won everything multiple times, scores bangers and passing range is mad.
Yet none of the top European clubs were ever interested in him lol
@@TheGreatVivek7pretty sure Inter were interested in him at one point. But regardless that doesn’t change how good Scholes was and his longevity was pretty insane coming out of retirement aged 37 to help win another league title.
@@jordanastro4694 no one ever was
Scholes in a successful team. Acting like he single handedly carried united. Carried is what Gerrard did in 2005 & 2006 cup finals. Scoring bangers? Literally Gerrards bread and butter.
And, the same Scholes called Stevie G the better of the trio!
Do you think Solanke can be Kane back up for England in World cup
watkins?
Based on the season so far hes only good enough to be pigeon ricks back up.
@@ol-Sean-lo He is injured btw, and it is only the beginning of the season
@ol-Sean-lo scored more goals and doesn't spend half a season on the hospital bed
Kante 100% stamina
KDB x nostalgia bias in 10-15 years is gonna set the record straight 😂 miles ahead in ability. Stevie loved a tackle though I guess 🙃
Scholes >>>> Gerrard
Viera >>>> Gerrard
Gerrard All the way
4 best pl midfielders scholes gerrard lampard keane imo but de bruyne will be in it by end of career
@@Itz_JJ25 No Vieira? Yall must have forgot?
@@dalegrant9282 he would be 5th
@@dalegrant9282 my opinion on my 4 but vieira was a beast
@@dalegrant9282 5th or 6th cos de bruyne
@@Itz_JJ25 yeah good shout. Imagine if Vieira was English?
Ultimate midfielders & Paul Scholes, the role model for players like Xavi, Iniesta isn't even an option is funny. Underrating his skillset is why we as a nation continue to win nothing.
Madisson is baised choosing Stevie G who by the way has 0 PL medals.
i'm sure non footballers are more biased compared to pro players. lol
Every ex and current England players choose Gerrard kid. They have seen him train.
You could put Stevie in any team and he could do any roll, but You could not put any other player in Stevies roll
Biggest pl derby united city
Paul scholes. Argue with the wall
Sorry he’s not an option! Try again
@RattledBarndoor scholes is the best midfielder in the world let alone the prem
@@iitzisa999 Sorry wrong answer. Not an option!
@RattledBarndoor it don't matter if its an option or not 😂😂
@@iitzisa999 it does. It’s between 4 in the video. The foot licker isn’t an option
No Lee Bowyer, no?
No Scott Parker, no?
No Paul Scholes for the ultimate PL midfielder?
Nostalgia goggles strikes again, its kdb
Haaland copied Salah's zen celebration. No originality whatsoever. He is a baller though.
It’s down to Stevie and Patrick I’m sorry
Scholes better than all of them
First question was so easy
M23 derby having a laugh 😂😂😂
Not watched but he’s gonna say Gerrard
Paul Scholes. Not even debatable.
Kdb , Gerrard, lampard, viera>>>>>>>>>>>>>scholes
KdB is the only one who can compete.
Paul Scholes said, I can't do what Stevie G do
Patrick Viera was the Ultimate midfielder
@@alexcoupe. Paulscholes never controlled games, people just came up with an argument for scholes. All he did was pass back , play long passes and always played safe. He never had the ability to do special things like kdb, Gerrard or lampard
STEVEN GERRARD MY PLAYER ❤
Vardy > Kane > Son
Where the F*ck is Vieira?
mid player
@Thefalse9-S9 wouldn't go that far but ye, doesn't deserve to be part of this conversation. Keane was better lol.
@@robertharper6481 👍
@@robertharper6481 keane was not better, their stats are fairly similar, both great leaders
@@TheFalse9TM My thought was they left out Keane and Vieira on purpose as they're in A league of their own... and we're defensive
Kroos picked scholes, and kroos > maddison. Liverpool fans are starving