“Feeding Your Demons” with Lama Tsultrim Allione
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- Опубліковано 12 лис 2014
- PLENARY KEYNOTE/ “Feeding Your Demons”
with Lama Tsultrim Allione
The ultimate compassion is to nurture and love, rather than resist and destroy our enemies, obstacles, and demons. Lama Tsultrim Allione shares the teachings and practices of Feeding Your Demons, a five-step process that enables one to compassionately engage with one’s demons, rather than continue the cycle of struggle and suppression. More at www.naropa.edu.
Lama Tsultrim Allione is a Western Buddhist teacher, as well as founder and spiritual director of Tara Mandala Retreat Center. Lama Tsultrim’s teachings arise from her studies with numerous Tibetan Buddhist teachers, her forty-year dedication to the Buddhist path, and her experience as a Western woman and a mother. Recipient of the Outstanding Women in Buddhism Award, she is the author of Women of Wisdom and Feeding Your Demons: Ancient Wisdom for Resolving Inner Conflict.
I have been suffering with some intense and painful emotional and physical disease my whole life...53. I went to a Shaman and she was told I need to do the chod practice. I have only been working with this amazing meditation for only four days, but it has changed me. Really, the core of me. I would never have known how much compassion I was capable of. I believe the benefits to me, but more importantly - everyone and everything, will just continue to be stronger as I continue this practice. It is beyond beautiful ..... thank you so much everyone
What a great read. Have you found the change has been sustained?
Meditation starts at 22:15
Thank you for this! I practiced this meditation yesterday and the demon that I saw from my neck (i have been having thyroid issues) was a little boy who needs attention and I can access it through touching my tattoo of a half angel wing with the letter A, a memorial tattoo to honor my godson who died in my arms. I couldn't make sense of the demon really. but then just randomly, a youtube video of tarot reading for Capricorns, which I am, came up. The reader talked about the Archangel Zerachiel. I don't know anything about archangels. So, I googled and much to my surprise it's the Archangel of Children and healing. I believe it was a sign that I am healing from all my physical, mental, and emotional pain. Thank you.
What an illuminating experience reframing my relationship to a demon that has been wrapped around me all my life, to see it recede when I nurtured it, and to finally meet an ally who has pledged to come to me when I pray and meditate but nonetheless always be present to remind me to keep feeding the nectar to my demon to appease and satisfy it. 🙏🏻💜
So relieved that a friend directed me here. I have been alone for 5 months and this has been quite a ride. It's lovely to finally have more time to practice such powerful tools, Thank You. Grateful
I could not get out of the irritation I felt against a person because of his lack of honesty against me. the ally appeared to me with "a block of concepts" and then I felt rather compassion for the ally because I understood that what he wanted was love and recognition and respect.
One of the most powerful meditation/visualisation experiences I've ever had. Thank you so much! Love this.
This is an amazingly powerful and beautiful meditation. I would have less resistance to it if it started from the outset with the premise that our inner parts, although they can appear fearsome at times, are not "demons", but are usually protectors of some kind. They are always our "allies", even though they sometimes don't look like it.
@Chaim Mendel There can be real demons as well, in addition to the ones that are more symbolic.
I make a tiny adjustment in my mind, to give myself the correct outlook - demon I turn into Daemon, the ancient Greek term. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimon#:~:text=The%20Ancient%20Greek%3A%20%CE%B4%CE%B1%CE%AF%CE%BC%CF%89%CE%BD%2C%20pronounced,later%20Hellenistic%20religion%20and%20philosophy.
That suits with the IFS notion that the parts are sacred beings.
And it satisfies my sense of linguistical propriety.
Thank you for sharing this! And thank you, Lama Allione, for participating in Global Vision Summit. I loved your talk!
I find this ties in with jungian depth psychology and active imagination. Talking to your subconscious parts, nurturing them and absorbing parts of your shadow or changing them. Similar to IFS too. Very cool.
Yes, much like IFS.
@@netscrooge what is IFS?
@@kenbrahma5378 Internal Family Systems is an approach to psychotherapy that was developed by Richard Schwartz.
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There is an interesting video where she and Richard Schwartz (IFS founder) discuss the two approaches (demons & parts).
If interested, search UA-cam for:
"Lama Live! June 18, 2023 with Lama Tsultrim Allione and Richard C. Schwartz"
This meditation is magnificent 💛✨
Never heard anything like that, but actually I did it as I followed the Biblical advice to feed our enemies.Thank you for your advice
Hello Vanya! Peace be with you. In the bible, it says love* your enemies, but Jesus talks about people. About spirits, the bible says: "put on the full armor of God" because even when we can't get rid of them by ourselves, God can help us (The Lord helped me)
It talks about this in the book of Ephesians 6:10-18. :)
Lets trust our sweet Lord.
God bless you Vanya.
🙏❤️☸️ all the moments in my life has been a build up to this wonderful teaching of feeding your demons. 🙏❤️☸️
Honest & grounding…The shape fear can take, then you open the door to greet it, hold it 2dance, make love to it, talk with it. I felt the pain in me disappear. It went from a head,2 a body of light, melted. It is the true support I need,& will always be there for me, just breathe. I was afraid at first , then settled in peace & bliss….OMG👏🏾🕊…THANK YOU LAMA ALLIONE…Answered prayer🙌🏾🤎
Thank you very much dearest lama Tsultrim for this wounderfull teaching!!
Thank you Lama Tsultrim! Feeling very grateful. Namaste.
So important - thank you -Blessing
Thank you for this; I had a very strong experience, and plan to work more with this process.
Amazingly deep, deep gratitude
What a blessing ❤️
Thank you for sharing this gift.
A profound practice for those with healthy brains: concentration & imagination.
this was amazing, full of unexpected answers and internal reactions. Thank you so much:
Wow. This is so powerful. Glad I came across this video.
Thank you so much ❤
Amazing feeling and experience
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences, knowledge and wisdom.
This was magnificent. It helped me a lot to pause at least 8 times during the meditation, to let myself catch up to what was asked.
Glorious, i bless the internet that I'm given these things 🙏
this is gold
Thank you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you so much... really...
Wow, the second gentleman who stood up to say something was an amazing "spokesperson" for what can happen doing this. 🙏
I am reading your book at the moment ( June 2023 )
So pleased I found your book.
saying that I find myself putting off do the steps. I feel I have so many Demons that if I feed them all there will be nothing left and who and what will I be. 😢
Will practice this more. Let’s see what happens.
wonderful visualisation
🙏🙏🙏
Poet John Giorno also believed his practice of chod helped him get through his cancer back in 1973.
Did anyone else cry uncontrollably?
Sorry to hear that.
I heard others can. Do the practice again. One can laugh too in the next one for example. You’ve gotten into a deep layer.
yes, I did too. ❤️🩹💗💖
Feeding, not fighting. That's it!
Meditation itself starts at 22:28 🙏🏻🕊
As someone that practices many aspects of Buddhism, mostly through Pranic Healing, and my own studying through many books. Mainly.., because I've experienced a lot, and have empathized, with human suffering. I still suffer with my wants love, a partner in life. As for why I'm still searching at age 36, there would be many possible reasons. Buddhism is the 1 religion, that philosophically addresses this, then in turn explains the reasons logically. Still I struggle with this demon exercise. Yes, I've seen demons represented in Japanese anime, which is different than the western perspective. Perhaps it's being raised Catholic. I'm Filipino, & some Filipino's won't admit it, but like Indian's are the native people of southern Asians mixed with the Aryan's, Filipino's are a mix of Malay, Indonesian, & some of us Chinese. Of course Indian culture has influenced Indonesian culture, as it has w/ many Asian cultures through Buddhism, and it's concepts of the Aura, Prana, as well as the Chakra System. My fathers tribe in southern Luzon, our ancestors were originally a group of people from southern China, that migrated into the Philippines in the Iron Age. Hence my interest in Buddhism, Taoism, Chinese Medicine, (of course I'm thinking pre-Maoism). I guess the word demon is still a difficult concept for me. Most of this guided meditation I could do, but the concept of asking the demon what it wants, I get it mixed up with asking what I want, because I feel that I'm the cause of my own suffering. However, if outside influences are a part of this, than I prefer the term "Negative Elementals," and I do have my own energetic techniques for getting ready of these. Perhaps I'll try again in the future.
Hello Jaime, I thought I might be able to help a bit. You might have missed this bit, where she says at about 14.30, that our demons are not something external, they are the energies of fixation. What I understand (from my western interpretation) is that what she's calling demons are the parts of me or you that are holding us back from our wholeness because of how we feel about them, so by befriending and feeding it we change our relationship to the parts of ourselves that we feel overwhelmingly negative about and so we turn them into our own internal monsters. I sincerely hope this makes some sense to you and is of help. It's really hard to put these things into words, I find, and we all speak a bit of a different language no matter where we're from. Very best wishes, Sue.
Jaime Flor
Perhaps you could experiment with relaxing your conceptual mind, your concept of what a demon is or isn't.
Hi! I have a question.
Shortly: What to do if the "demon" reappears later on during the day?
Long: After I made this meditation, my demon reappeared during the day. I wasnt sure what to do with it, I was thinking that maybe the meditation was rushed a bit and the feeding wasnt complete, so I gave in with it... After that I felt the emotion that was the root cause of the demon existence (shame) but I'm not sure that because of the interaction with it, or just because im confused that maybe I messed up the practise. Whats the correct approach in a situation like this?
Thank you!
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Creation and Transformation… the ultimate human Being.
Beware of imaginal conjurings! Energy follows attention. That which you give attention to, you energize.
Yes, although the point here is to *transform* it. If you can't see it, you can't change it. This is a powerful practice.
Kerrie Redgate : yes. You don’t embellish in the demon/dark, you recognize it (we all have shadows) and learn what it truly needs - ie peace. Love etc..
Seems to me you didn’t hear her out at all! ;)
i felt nauseous too, it took me by surprise
If your demon is chronic pain, do you need to repeat the process until it goes ?
Yes. You may also realize in the process that there are also other ways to nourish, be more kind or other tricks to help your body and spirit for less pain.
Is it safe to do the meditation by yourself?
Can you recommend a chöd practice for people with the Bodhisattva sickness?
Going through the process at minute 21:41
I just blacked out.
The compassion part rings true for me. However I have some doubts.
If I imagine taking my anger, sadness etc and "holding" it like a baby, nurturing, feeding and healing it... I'm all for that.
But this feels like it could be potentially dangerous.
I don't know anything. I don't know if external demons or the devil truly exist... but I do know that I wouldn't want to take my chances with trusting them.
What if I tried this but I end up talking with a an "external" demon or the devil?
See really I'm being a little bit of hypocrite because if you notice, my profile picture is a scene from 'Journey to the West: Conquering the demons' in which the demons are conquered with compassion and in the end become allies. I wish for this possibility to be a reality, both with inner demons or external.
But even with that said, if I truly wanted to give a demon/devil compassion I would *not ask them for anything in return... i.e. "what will you give me" "will you protect me" etc etc. That sounds more like a deal/contract to me. I"ll give you a lil of my nectar and you give me xyz.
If the devil is real, i can see how this could easily become a setup for making a "deal with the devil".
But like I said, i dont know anything . Just here trying to learn.
dumb question but I had to ask. my 2 questions are, does it work with weight loss, and #2 does it work with something that is not physical such as getting the job you want?
Ruben, from my experience. I think that this practice can help with the internal/subjective aspects of those things. For example, if you have emotional patterns that prevent you from exercising and/or eating right, you can use the Demon Practice for that.
Or, I find, I get nervous alot, when it comes to work tasks. Be it just performing and/or finding a new job. So I sometimes use the practice for my anxiety and nervousness relating to the job.
Please I need you to guide me to a spiritual being
having too many demons; shall i merge all of them into one being or should i just try and manifest it one by one?
One by one. Chaos is hard to listen to and decipher. One by one you can listen to each and liberate them.
One - and who ever you think is strongest first. Or it may just come anyways.
I would really recommend buying her book, it explains the process quite clear and helps you out with these questions :-)
Have you done this in your 20s or 30s??
What if your visualisation abilities are non-existent?
Hello Donald, I know there are people who lack the capacity to visualise, and it sounds like you know very well that that's you. My guess, though, is that you might have very good language skills as compensation, and I suggest that maybe you can use these to do the exercise, creating a vivid dialogue between your 'self' and the 'demon'. I think this might be like having a phone conversation, where you cannot see the other person, but you can use all your other intuitive skills to understand them and be understood by them. I hope this is of some help, best wishes, Sue.
+Sue Mansi That's very helpful. Thank you Sue.
It's a pleasure. Let me know how it's going if you feel like it!
I think that the whole practice can be performed in a lucid dream where you are fully aware being in a dream and where there is no any obstacle for visualization.
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I had an actual demon for most of my life. I think he left because I loves him too much. He wasn't that bad after I learned how to work with him, but he left. I miss him.
Yes. It's weird. I think there's a new one coming around. Which is also weird because I don't dabble with that stuff. Maybe it's because I'm open to talking if they aren't completely rude.
Wow. How did you deal with this demon to make it leave? Did you ever see the demon, and if so then what did it look like.
I think I have some kind of entity/spirit that I am trying to deal with but maybe more animalistic - so maybe either a deceased animal (spirit attachment), or maybe one of the lower demons (or 'unclean spirit' mentioned in the Bible). I have come across an idea that the lower demons can look like animals. Another idea is that a demon can take over the spirit of an animal (maybe a more Christian point of view but could be true). So I am confused about what this is.
worldofenigma1 The original demon showed up as a huge black wolf in the corner of my room during a dream. Super creepy realistic.
To be honest, the way I got rid of him was just annoying him. I wasn’t afraid, and he couldn’t take my soul, which was proven during that dream. Most of the time I just chatted with him, whether he answered or not. Eventually he just got fed up with me not being afraid and just left.
The new one, who I don’t know much about, keeps moving my items around. I lost my freaking keys. I NEVER lose my keys, the are always attached to my purse. It’s not a small set either.
And other objects that I KNOW I put somewhere specific tend to go missing. I probably need to banish him, but sage gives me a bad headache and I am quite lazy and just don’t care that much. He’s not doing major harm, just making me lose things.
I am no expert on demons, as I haven’t really studied. I often think that they like to act animalistic you scare humans. Try just talking, and don’t expect an answer in a conventional way. Often they come as very quiet thoughts, or dreams.
@@amberblyledge7859 Interesting. This is not in my dreams but also does not move any objects as far as I can tell. I mean sometimes I forget where things are but usually they turn up somewhere. As far as I can tell it does not understand anything I say. It follows me around the house, like in the kitchen and under the units / kitchen sink for example (staying in the darker places). I don't really see it but hear sounds of it bumping around under the units for example when I am doing things there, or feel its effects on my energy (sucks my energy).
Any of our little shadows (anger, depression etc) are all “demons” in this practice.
@@worldofenigma1 Sage clears negative energy & entities. When i do Chod, i use both Tibetan incense & Sage.
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It almost parallel Christ offering up himself ..no? As a parable?
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Paulson.
Interesting parallel between this and the story of Jesus who gave his body to his demons when crucified and was born again. His followers also partake of his flesh and blood in ritualistic ways.
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Dalio
Omg lady it was the AZT that kept Fred alive not meditating.
Arent Nagas snakebeings from the earth? Not waterspirits
Did she just told nonchalantly how the girl passed through a wall and flew? I hope she didn't say it literally happened because this may sway my opinion about feeding your demons practice.
Just allegory
If sub atomic particles can be in 2 different places at the same time , why not people?
Whats up with the title, I cant watch this.
What's wrong with the title?
Dear Lama "Gandhi prayed everyday to be more women like" is a reflection of romanticisation in the process of speaking because it gives a good feeling to a non-critical speaker and audience also accept it without critical thinking.But gandhi was not the person the way we think at present.He was not at all a progressive supporters of woman cause.He was just having a psychology of a conservative grandfather when he feels to say something good or religiously ideal he will and when he feels he has to show his disliking he will produce disliking.He was contradictory in his approach.
+Pabitra Bag Interesting...
+Pabitra Bag I appreciate your comment! But to be precise, Lama Allione is quoting someone else who spoke before she took the stage, who said that Gandhi prayed every day to be more womanly. We don't know the context in which that information was shared. Still, from what I know of M.K. Gandhi, this seems not unlikely, because of the old association of "woman" with the "feminine," and his desire to avoid humiliating his opponents, rather acting in such a way as to help oppressive forces to see their own wrongdoing, and therefore begin to see the people he represented. In other words, he wanted to make a connection between opposing forces, which some would label a "feminine impulse."
Gandhi said of his wife Kasturba, whom he physically beat whenever he felt the need to assert his authority (as was the custom of his time) at least until the age of 30 as far as I can tell, that she had taught him the most about compassion, and the power of nonviolence. Kasturba never fought back according to him, and eventually, he was able to see how wrong he was to assault her like that. He was deeply ashamed of this. But it lends credence to the idea that he might have prayed to be "more womanly," in the sense of being able to take on unjust suffering and to still choose to love--that was part of his ideal of satyagraha, or nonviolent resistance. It doesn't seem so far-fetched to me that he might have prayed to "be more womanly."
The story that Lama Allione herself told about Gandhi is quite authentic, and I don't think she intends to portray him as a crusader for women's rights or something, but to illustrate a different way of approaching conflict, which has to do with the practice she offers in this lecture.
I wonder if he prayed to be 'womanly' or more 'feminine', or even perhaps motherly? In the metta sutra Buddha suggests we strive to attain the loving-kindness like that of a mother for her only child. In this way, many Buddhists are aspiring to be more loving - a trait associated with the feminine aspect of our being. I too aspire to cultivate this aspect. It has been from woman that learn the most about this precious mental factor. Tara is the mother of all Buddhas.
T cells going up due to mediation, really?
Your holiness. Namaste. You are a Nun. We all know the first Nun to be ordained by the Buddha was Prajapati Gautami. The Lichavies of Vaishally got together and donated money to make the new living quarters for the newly ordained Nuns. So the structure which the Lichavies made will be the first NUNNERY IN THE WORLD. You are a Nun. Don't you think it is important that the world, especially the world of NUNS be interested in locating the exact spot where that NUNNERY once stood. I have found it. It is within Amrapali's compound, and the compound is huge. Won't you be interested in showing the world where that NUNNERY stood. Doesn't Maha Prajapati Gautami, Amrapali, and the 500 Nuns that were ordained by the Buddha, deserve recognition of that sort from the world. Doesn't the world deserve to know where that Nunnery is. I am an ordinary unknown researcher. I don't have the power to take it to the world. You have the power and popularity. Buddhists listen to you. Just by visiting the spot, that ancient nunnery will come alive.
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you need to choose a better example than Ghandi Lama Allione - read Arundhati Roy and the new book on Ghandi's life called Ghandi Stretcher Bearer of the Empire by Ashwin Desai, Professor of Sociology at the University of Johannesburg, and Goolam Vahed, Associate Professor of History at the University of KwaZulu Natal-
Ghandi was racist , misogynist, he was a classicist , he was in with the British etc- rather use Bhimrao Ramji Ambedkar he's a far better example of the qualities Ghandi is given and he was doing it before Ghandi - ps people don't die of HIV/AIDS they die of complications of the conditions like drug resistant TB etc
When she casually said the AIDs patient died one year later..I was cringing so bad because she didn't tell the cause of death. You can't just sit there and claim "this is proof he was healed" without giving that important detail. 🤷♀️
I feel my wings, but this feeling not real. So this not real, i think this only imagination. I feel, but not here. Soo..
It's unfortunate when a Buddhist teacher claims the method is Buddhist when they are simply extracting it from other holistic teachers and renaming it theirs. This method is an exact replica of NLP (neuro-linguistic programming) methods. NLP teachers have been utilizing these EXACT step-by-step instructions since the 1970s.
Take a look at Core Transformation work by Connirea Andreas or Trauma Release Method by Jenifer Shapiro.
Or take a look at the pre-NLP parts therapies by Fritz Perls and all of the work by Virginia Satir.
This method is a re-branding and it is NOT a buddhist method by any means. If you look at it closely it does the exact opposite of buddhist methods - it causes you to become attached to feelings and release. This is not buddhist, it IS new age healing which I totally respect, it just isn’t something this buddhist came up with and it’s not buddhist.
Actually NLP is full of borrowed/stolen methods as it is basically a 'Modelling' project, that is to say taking the simple instructions from methods developed elsewhere by others, eg virginia Satir, Frank Farelly, Milton Erikson, etc. I cannot say where Fritz Perls originated the 2 chair method but he was not unfamiliar with eastern teachings. Certainly this Tibetan method predates both by an order of several (6?) centuries!
Hahaha. This technique was invented in Tibet by a woman practitioner, hundreds of years ago and she just has modernized it so no one need learn Tibetan or have to find a thigh bone to use as a musical instrument. There's a lot that's been "discovered" in the last several decades which existed long ago. This is not a complaint on my part -- it's a great thing that these skills are getting known by a wider audience.
NLP predates the 11th century?
LOL. Buddhism goes back way further than the 1970s.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%B6d
I am so so disappointed having heard her narrating the story of Lord Buddhas in one of the videos .. except the opening prayers but the rest she spoke so recklessly , uninterestingly and false fully..
She needs to do thorough research and study Buddhism, the Tibetan culture and so on....
well, if she is genuinely interested in it rather preaching or say on it without well studies or observation.
She also needs to learn how to articulate her words and sentences carefully particularly speaking on spiritual or religion aspect of life and on even other people's culture etc...
Mediocre crap, blunt hypnotherapy, it doesn’t work. Dr. Psychotherapist speaking. GFYS
Please repent n turn away from this witchcraft..this woman has many things attached to her I’ll pray for those that are lost
pretty useless.