Thank you 😬😬 I’m glad it helped! Have you seen my M57 logos?? I’m currently running a 10% discount on my website www.keepitbigbore.com if you’d like one for your build, it’s free shipping if your in the Uk 👍🏽 Good luck with your swap!!
That's helped me alot thanks! I'm considering this conversion in my 1983 110 defender... (or a tdv8 ) but a tad confused about wiring and gearbox choice 🤔
I wouldn’t worry about the wiring, once it’s there in front of you it’s simple enough. The auto takes a bit more but it’s really not allot, most of it runs through one plug that’s all ready on the loom.
Hi, i have m57tu 204hp with edc16c31 computer. I like to put it on boat. I finish everything to fit in there, engine mounts, water intercooler, water to water exchanger, flywheel adapter and adapter plate for transmision. I have problem only with speed signal because I haven’t it on the boat and engine because of that can’t deliver full power because computer “thinks” that the “car” is not driving. Is it possible to fix that error without speed sensor signal?
Hi mate, sorry I took so long to reply, you can definitely remove any limitations on it. I’m from more of a mechanic/fabrication background so I don’t know how to do it personally but I know a lot of guys convert the ecu to manual to remove any limitations. How do you know this is what is causing the lack of power?
Hi mate. Great video and lots of info. Im going to be putting a 2003 330d engine and box in an old car but the standalone ecu and loom I have have brought has can high and can low. M57n engine code. Do I need to wire the can lines up. Many thanks darryl
Thanks mate!! I’m no expert on wiring the m57’s, especially the m57n’s I’ve got one sitting on my bench right now but I’ve yet to even make a start on it. I’m currently stripping it for a rebuild. As far as I know, there is no need to run anything as complicated as can for these engines but I guess it depends on your loom and how much integration with the existing cars system you’d like. I personally had everything I needed through manual sensors, (oil, charge etc) Good luck with your conversion!!!
I'm putting an M57 is a Discovery2. Got everything fitted and connected. Engine is running. Your video's have been a good help! Just 1 question. Did you use the BMW alternator and dit it charge the battery after the swap? Mine doesn't... D+ is connected properly over a bulb (which is on), 2 other wires from alternator are connected to ECU (C24, C8) , but no charge. Any idea's??
Thanks mate, I’m glad they were useful 😬 I’ve used the original alternator yes, I had no issues with mine anyways. The only thing I use to tell me it’s charging is the bulb and a voltmeter which is on a USB port I’ve installed in place of a cigarette lighter. Have you got 12v on the charge cable on the back? Is your power steering working? I’m trying to see if the belt is loose/slipping slightly. Have you any way of checking the fault codes?
Just seen your video now, what an absolute unit of a vehicle 😬😬 If your building that then you’re probably aware of the things in my response about the alternator 😂
@@KeepitBigBore Thanks! I have buildt some offroad race cars before, but this is my first FIA spec rallycar. Really exiting! Yes, the things you pointed out are already checked. Just wondered if you had more information about the signals of the 2 wires going to the ECU. Thanks for the help. Much appreciated.
Thank you!! Yes there are a few now. I spoke to MW Machines here in the UK initially as was looking for a kit but they weren’t available at the time due to the global situation. But he probably has everything you need now! Also, Wisemans Engineering can set you up with a full kit. Both suppliers have a few options in terms of manual or auto m57 or m57n. Where are you based and do you know what specs you’d like to have on yours?
@@KeepitBigBore probably go manual onto the m82 box not really sure on power specs yet I need it to be reliable as it will mostly be used in the outback and towing a boat.
I know you can get adaptor plates for the m57n to mt82 but I’m not sure if there was one for the older m57. I’d say for reliability on the mt82, transfer case and diffs with a trailer, 250bhp and 500nm wouldn’t be a bad number. You can get this out of the older m57 with re-maps if you do manage to find an adaptor for it 👍🏽
I know you can get adaptor plates for the m57n to mt82 but I’m not sure if there was one for the older m57. I’d say for reliability on the mt82, transfer case and diffs with a trailer, 250bhp and 500nm wouldn’t be a bad number. You can get this out of the older m57 with re-maps if you do manage to find an adaptor for it 👍🏽
Hi! Great video - it pushed me over the edge to do the conversion on a 1999 Discovery 2 auto. I bought a 2003 BMW E60 530d auto, and took the motor and 6HP26 out today. I believe this is the M57N engine, and I see the ECU is a DDE 7 unit. I am slightly worried now as I don't see anything for DDE 7 on Wiseman's site, and also not getting email reply from them on my query regarding software or ecu for this project. Can you perhaps give me an email address or point me in the right direction for a solution?
Hi mate, Thankyou, that’s great to hear, it will be well worth it 👍🏽 Don’t worry you should be fine with an e60 ecu, it should be dde5 which they have plenty of kits for. If you want to send me an email I can cc Wiseman’s into a new conversation and hopefully you guys can speak from there on? My email is kibbcrew@gmail.com
I have another question and im wondering if you could help me, i changed ecu, ews, and swapped the key chip from the donor car i took the engine, the starter isnt cranking, the fuel pump is working, at first i tought that the ews should be deleted but then i remembered, when i screwed on starter cable, i accidently put the wrench to the starter case, it shorted out for a less than a sec… so im wondering is there any fuse for the starter that could be blown?
Once you plug on your ecu, you shouldn’t have to worry about the 2 big wires, just plug it in to the ecu, put your key through the circular antenna and send 12v live to the black wire on the body plug, this is the wire for the starter motor.
@@KeepitBigBore ive got an update, there was a aftermarket relay for the starter, i deleted that, now the car cranks, fuel pump is working, but glow plug light stays on, and it wont start, any ideas?
would you have anything for m57n2? and also would you use 2 ecu for my nissan patrol? like nissan ecu and bmw ecu together so factory dash etc all work>?
The m57n2 is very similar if you use a standalone harness like this one. I wouldn’t recommend using 2 ecu’s, if you have an understanding of wiring then you can get the bmw ecu to control everything on your dash!!
Hi Keep it big bore. I'm from Australia and looking at putting a m57 into my 1996 nissan gq patrol. You say the blue plugs are for the auto transmission. Just wondering if you would know If the auto transmission will still work as normal if I use it in my patrol. The aut is fully controlled by the ECU isn't it? Cheers love the video.
Hi Daniel, I see no reason why it wouldn’t work if you were using the m57 with its original auto transmission. Mine came with the 5 speed auto, it’s not a bad transmission but it’s a bit slow and lazy, a lot of guys go for the newer 6 speed!! We’re you looking to keep the patrol transmission or use the BMW one?
@@KeepitBigBore I wana keep it manual but my left knee is telling me to go bmw auto. So your set up just uses the stock bmw transmission controller for the 5 sped auto no messing about? Cheers again.
I have a friend who just bought a td5. I jumped in it the other day to feel how heavy his clutch was. I pushed it down and it hit the floor, I was expecting it to feel so much heavier as I’m used to driving my one. So my point is, if you go manual, you will need a heavy duty clutch and a heavy duty left knee to go with it 😂 My friend jumped in mine to see what my clutch was like, he jumped out and said he thinks his hip popped (he’s an older gentleman) 😬 Mine is manual and using the original Land Rover transmission so I didn’t use any of the transmission controller, just the original ecu 👍🏽
@@KeepitBigBore Yher nice I should of picked up on that in the video, I been watching that many M57 swap videos 24/7 I caint remember half of them. Lol Cheers heps for your help. Do you have any pics of the plugs or sketches of how all the wiering is pinned out into the connectors? I'm a bit sick on how to wire this thing.
No worries mate 😬 If you purchase one of the stand-alone kits then you won’t have to worry about pin outs, wires etc. She’ll just plug and play. I have no diagrams for the wires and all of them are black so a picture might not be any help but trust me, she all clicks together 👍🏽
A lot of awesome information in this video man! I’m from Australia and looking to do this very soon in my SWB Y60, I’m planning on keeping the 6HP auto behind my m57, just curious to know how much more work it will be or if I’d be better off just using the stock Nissan manual?
Sorry I took so long to get back to you! I’d say absolutely go for the 6hp, at the end of the day, the 6hp won’t require custom adaptors, it’s a strong box and a lot of people are using it here in the UK. If I had a 6hp lying around I’d definitely use it 👍🏽
I am super glad I found your channel buddy. I'm doing a jaguar MK2 and throwing an M57 in it but the electronics have been baffling me. I can't express how happy I am with your info and how unhappy the jaguar enthusiasts are going to be ha ha
brilliant video, so clearly explained. I'm at the point of buying the actual m57 engine - so far i understand i need to buy the m57 engine including ecu & wiring harness in 3 parts (engine loom, injector loom, and ecu loom). Ive also figured out I will need to keep a few sensors such as MAF, lambda, boost temp, EGT as well as swirl flap and EGR vacuum solenoids. Lastly i will need the accelerator pedal and its wiring. I intend to use a zf8hp with a turbolamik controller. Could you kindly advice if there is anything i have left out for the engine to run standalone on a test bench? would appreciate your advice....many thanks
Hi mate, Thankyou very much!! So most of the sensors you need will be attached to the engine apart from a pre supply pressure sensor which may be in the fuel filter unit. If you are buying a complete car you will be able to clearly see where everything is when you remove the engine. Just make sure you have connected all the ground points and it should run on a test bench just as in my “first start” video 👍🏽👍🏽
Hello mate, unfortunately not. I didn’t really have any measurements, I just made it in situ around the engine. In all honesty, I’d didn’t have to be as complex as it was.
Hey Big This inspired me to do this myself, and i bought everything needed. Almost at goal now, but ive got no throttle, tried all kinds of different throttlepedals, but nothing goes. Inpa says it might be fixable to switch pot 1 and 2, but i have no idea what it is. Any pointer will help :)
Hey mate, sorry for y late response!! Which pedal have you got at the moment and who did you buy the harness from. If you send me a message on Instagram with some pictures I’ll do my best to help out 👍🏽
@@KeepitBigBore no worries mate. Got it working. Had a great talk with Will from house of torque, as i bought the stuff from him :) he accidently misplaced 2 wires in the loom
Ash lovely, it’s so easy to happen and two wires can cause havoc 😂 haven’t ever spoken to will, I’ve only ever spoken to Max but they making a good range of products and are sweet up professionally so you can’t go wrong!! Good luck with it, let us know how it goes for you 👍🏽👍🏽
Hi great video, I gather your defender is manual, I wanted to use the x5 6speed auto in my 90, dose the Ecu lead also control the auto gearbox?. Many thanks
Hey, thank you!! I can’t say for sure if you can use the original transmission controller but I can’t see why you couldn’t either!! The ecu won’t control it but the 6 speed auto will have its own transmission controller that works in conjunction with the ecu 👍🏽👍🏽
@@KeepitBigBore mostly fab myself but I have a guy for any precision or CNC stuff. It's the wiring side of things that I'm useless at. You made it sound simple. I'll be keeping my eyes open for a donor car that's for sure
Haha, don’t worry, if you can do and organise the fab and cnc side of it then trust me, the wiring will be a breeze 😬 Worst case scenario, you could get the engine in and geared/plumbed up then drop it in to someone for wiring 👍🏽
Hi, i am doing an M57 conversion in my Pajero. I have the same throttle potentiometer as you, but am unsure how to connect the 6 wires from it into the BMW loom. Can you help please?
Hi mate, I’m actually using the pedal type potentiometer on mine. I used the one you seen in the video just for testing. I highly recommend buying a complete pedal type potentiometer to simplify your wiring. You can find these from the newer m57 cars. Is there any reason why you want to use the cylindrical type?
I’ve been here for about 12 years now. Really, why’s that? Did you grow up in Ireland or England? To be honest, I’m trying to get out of London and more into the county country side over here!!
Hi there I'm right here in the UK. I have tried to call Wiseman on the telephone number on FB but to no avail! Do you know any other ways I can get hold of the Wiseman crew
Hi Amral. You could try sending him a message, he put a post on Facebook a while ago about moving workshop so he might be hard to reach at the moment. I contacted him through the number on Facebook also 👍🏽
Hi I message you a couple of months ago regarding my defender 90 swap I’m at a stage where the chassis is now built up and obviously I’m looking to find an x5 donor, the M57 is that the TwinTurbo or is the newer X5 a TwinTurbo I’m confused on which engine to go for, can you help me out there as if I buy the whole vehicle I’ve got everything I possibly need for the change but not sure which one to get, there’s a lot out there at fairly reasonable prices scrapped or damaged Kind regards mark
Hi mate, I can’t say for sure but I don’t think the m57 x5 came as twin turbo. (Anyone feel free to correct me). If your looking for a twin turbo m57 then I think you need to be looking for 335d’s and 535d’s. Why do you want an x5 engine?
Hi I just thought that was the one to go for when fitting it’s 6 speed automatic m57 or m57n all alloy block big turbo with the little one below it. ?. A bit confusing. Regards
The x5 came with the 4wd auto and the 3 and 5 series had the 2 wheel drive box. You can use either one. You can buy adaptors to the lt230 transfer case for both boxes so best option is to fund a supplier for your adaptor, see which one you can get and decide your engine from there 👍🏽
Hi, great video, i have i question, do i still have to change the gas pedal, i swapped m47 to m57, the pedals are slightly different, but could it prevent the car from starting?
Thanks very much! As far as I’m aware, they use a similar potentiometer in the pedal, I’m not sure if the pinouts are the same but either way, it should not prevent it from starting. I ran my engine in my test stand without the pedal connected many times.
@@KeepitBigBore I literally got back from Southern Ireland a couple weeks or so ago, and my first wife's family were Irish, and I still couldn't be 1000% certain :D lol
No reason why it won’t! I can’t say if the ecu is exactly the same or not but I know the engine is pretty much identical to the 306d1 (cast iron block) it’s just a Land Rover badge on it
What a fantastic informative video. You have made it sound simple enough for a non mechanic to understand. Q. How old is the engine whi h connects to this? Wouldn't an newer motor have a lot more wires? Thanks again.
Thankyou!! This engine is from a 1999 530D (e39) they made this engine up to 2003 as far as I know. It then changed to an aluminium block, and a redesign of the engine (pistons, injectors ecu etc). My engine is the dde4. The newer m57 used dde5 and most of the wiring is very similar 👍🏽
@@KeepitBigBore You are awesome mate, thanks for the very helpful information. I am looking to build a Nissan Patrol for a trip around Australia and the ZD30 engine is not very reliable, or powerful. I was thinking of your motor for a conversion but thought it might be too difficult. You have given me hope again and will now do more research on the engine. Thank you mate.
No worries mate, I’m glad you found it helpful! It’s very simple to get up and running, you may have seen the first start video already but I made a short video of the engine running while on a stand on my workshop floor. Once you’ve connected everything and all your ground points, she’ll fire up no matter what vehicle it’s in!! Good luck with it, the patrol is a great vehicle for this conversion 👍🏽👍🏽
@@KeepitBigBore You really are very generous with your time and information mate. If I do take the risk and go for this massive project, would I be able to pay you for advice when I need it? It won't be for a while as I need to sell 2 other cars first.
Thankyou but Don’t worry mate, I’ll try to help you if I can, no need for payment. If your interested, I have custom made m57 logos for sale on my website www.keepitbigbore.com I made the website myself so I’m still getting round to making it look good and adding more products. If you decide you want one then that’s payment enough 👍🏽
Hi mate. There is an RPM output from your ecu, it’s just 1 wire. I’ve left a link in the description for the rpm gauge I’ve used. It’s the only one that showed 6000rpm instead of 8,10 or 12 thousand so it’s specifically for Diesel engines. You can also calibrate this to suit different engines. I know my idle speed it roughly 750rpm. When connecting the gauge for the first time, my idle showed as 3000rpm. There is a small knob on the back, just turn it and the rpm will drop/raise as you turn in. I turned mine until it showed 750rpm at idle. It’s now accurate right up to 4750rpm. 👍🏽
hi, i bought the rpm gauge like yours and i connect the pink wire to the red wire coming from the gauge... and the gauge dont work! Im doing the connection wrong? How you connect your wires in your rpm gauge? Thanks again
Hey mate, is it not working at all? Do the lights on the rpm gauge come on when you turn the ignition on? I can’t remember the colours of the wires but as far as I remember, there was ground, ignition and rpm signal. When you turn the ignition on, the gauge should turn from zero to max rpm and then back to zero again, does it do this?
Hi mate, you can buy this from “house of torque” “Mw machines” and more, have a look on their website and Facebook page and reach out to them as I don’t sell this product myself 👍🏽
Hi mate, do you have to send power to the black wire to start it or can you use the vehicles original starter wire straight to the solenoid? We are trying this way and the engine is obviously cranking but it won't start. Is there anything else on the body plug that we need to connect? We have fuel at the rail, the inline pump is working but we think it's only 3 bar and don't have a gauge to check. Would it at least try to start with only 3 bar?
Hi mate, sorry I didn’t get back sooner!! Have you got your problem sorted? The easiest way is to use the black wire, you can hot wire the starter but I’d stick to the black wire on the body plug if I were you. 3 bar is enough to start!!
@@KeepitBigBore hi mate, yeah we got it sorted, was a faulty rail pressure sensor and rail pressure control valve, we were getting fuel at the rail but it was getting there via the faulty control valve rather than the high pressure pump. Runs like a dream now. ✌️
@@KeepitBigBore was deffo worth it, we've fitted it to a 1989 VW lt35, originally 57bhp I think and now just under 300bhp. The hardest part of the whole conversion was getting the shifter cable to work on the 6hp26. We had the biggest headache with different cables, levers and brackets but got there in the end. A 6hp28 with the electronic shifter would have been much easier. Could do with a brake upgrade now though 😅
WWHAAT??? 🤣🤣🤣 I’d love to see some people try and pull away from you in that! That’s the perfect kind of sleepers right there! I keep up with people in the old defender and people are usually surprised but you’d never expect a lt35 to be terrorising you 😂😂😂
Probably the best, "how to video" I've ever seen, straight to the point, no waffling. Thanks man 👍🏻
Thank you 😬😬 I’m glad it helped!
Have you seen my M57 logos?? I’m currently running a 10% discount on my website www.keepitbigbore.com if you’d like one for your build, it’s free shipping if your in the Uk 👍🏽
Good luck with your swap!!
Not gonna lie i wasn't ready for that voice.
🤣🤣🤣
Love it!!
Sounds like Offaly to me, maybe Longford 🤣🤣
Your the closest Flynnick!! Laois 😂🤫
@@KeepitBigBore 🤣🤣Good work, keep up the excellent videos bro!
This might be good!!
This guy has a Irish voice going through a big bore throat LOL. Brilliant wee video!
🤣🤣🤣 nothing quiet about me!!
You know what they say…you can take a man out da bog but you can’t take da bog out da man 😬
That's helped me alot thanks! I'm considering this conversion in my 1983 110 defender... (or a tdv8 ) but a tad confused about wiring and gearbox choice 🤔
I wouldn’t worry about the wiring, once it’s there in front of you it’s simple enough. The auto takes a bit more but it’s really not allot, most of it runs through one plug that’s all ready on the loom.
What a great video this is!
Thank, I’m glad it helped 👍🏽
Hi, i have m57tu 204hp with edc16c31 computer. I like to put it on boat. I finish everything to fit in there, engine mounts, water intercooler, water to water exchanger, flywheel adapter and adapter plate for transmision. I have problem only with speed signal because I haven’t it on the boat and engine because of that can’t deliver full power because computer “thinks” that the “car” is not driving. Is it possible to fix that error without speed sensor signal?
Hi mate, sorry I took so long to reply, you can definitely remove any limitations on it. I’m from more of a mechanic/fabrication background so I don’t know how to do it personally but I know a lot of guys convert the ecu to manual to remove any limitations.
How do you know this is what is causing the lack of power?
Hi mate. Great video and lots of info. Im going to be putting a 2003 330d engine and box in an old car but the standalone ecu and loom I have have brought has can high and can low. M57n engine code. Do I need to wire the can lines up. Many thanks darryl
Thanks mate!! I’m no expert on wiring the m57’s, especially the m57n’s I’ve got one sitting on my bench right now but I’ve yet to even make a start on it. I’m currently stripping it for a rebuild.
As far as I know, there is no need to run anything as complicated as can for these engines but I guess it depends on your loom and how much integration with the existing cars system you’d like. I personally had everything I needed through manual sensors, (oil, charge etc)
Good luck with your conversion!!!
I'm putting an M57 is a Discovery2. Got everything fitted and connected. Engine is running. Your video's have been a good help! Just 1 question. Did you use the BMW alternator and dit it charge the battery after the swap? Mine doesn't... D+ is connected properly over a bulb (which is on), 2 other wires from alternator are connected to ECU (C24, C8) , but no charge. Any idea's??
Here is it's first run... ua-cam.com/video/gcszS6tgKb8/v-deo.html
Thanks mate, I’m glad they were useful 😬
I’ve used the original alternator yes, I had no issues with mine anyways. The only thing I use to tell me it’s charging is the bulb and a voltmeter which is on a USB port I’ve installed in place of a cigarette lighter.
Have you got 12v on the charge cable on the back? Is your power steering working? I’m trying to see if the belt is loose/slipping slightly.
Have you any way of checking the fault codes?
Just seen your video now, what an absolute unit of a vehicle 😬😬
If your building that then you’re probably aware of the things in my response about the alternator 😂
@@KeepitBigBore Thanks! I have buildt some offroad race cars before, but this is my first FIA spec rallycar. Really exiting! Yes, the things you pointed out are already checked. Just wondered if you had more information about the signals of the 2 wires going to the ECU. Thanks for the help. Much appreciated.
Sorry mate!! Good luck with the build, she’s looks great 👍🏽
great vid !!!
Thank you mate, I’m glad it was helpful 😬
Awsome work on your defender
Do you know if any one dose a complete m57 bolt in kit for the defender ?
Thank you!!
Yes there are a few now. I spoke to MW Machines here in the UK initially as was looking for a kit but they weren’t available at the time due to the global situation. But he probably has everything you need now! Also, Wisemans Engineering can set you up with a full kit. Both suppliers have a few options in terms of manual or auto m57 or m57n.
Where are you based and do you know what specs you’d like to have on yours?
@@KeepitBigBore probably go manual onto the m82 box not really sure on power specs yet I need it to be reliable as it will mostly be used in the outback and towing a boat.
I know you can get adaptor plates for the m57n to mt82 but I’m not sure if there was one for the older m57.
I’d say for reliability on the mt82, transfer case and diffs with a trailer, 250bhp and 500nm wouldn’t be a bad number. You can get this out of the older m57 with re-maps if you do manage to find an adaptor for it 👍🏽
I know you can get adaptor plates for the m57n to mt82 but I’m not sure if there was one for the older m57.
I’d say for reliability on the mt82, transfer case and diffs with a trailer, 250bhp and 500nm wouldn’t be a bad number. You can get this out of the older m57 with re-maps if you do manage to find an adaptor for it 👍🏽
Hello. where can i buy that wiring ????? It would be for m57 306d2. any link to the store ??? or where can i get it
Hi mate. Give max at Wisemans engineering or Marcus at MW Machines 4x4, they’ll sort you out 👍🏽
Hi! Great video - it pushed me over the edge to do the conversion on a 1999 Discovery 2 auto. I bought a 2003 BMW E60 530d auto, and took the motor and 6HP26 out today. I believe this is the M57N engine, and I see the ECU is a DDE 7 unit. I am slightly worried now as I don't see anything for DDE 7 on Wiseman's site, and also not getting email reply from them on my query regarding software or ecu for this project. Can you perhaps give me an email address or point me in the right direction for a solution?
Hi mate, Thankyou, that’s great to hear, it will be well worth it 👍🏽 Don’t worry you should be fine with an e60 ecu, it should be dde5 which they have plenty of kits for. If you want to send me an email I can cc Wiseman’s into a new conversation and hopefully you guys can speak from there on?
My email is kibbcrew@gmail.com
Thx! That'll be awesome!
Does this only work for the m57 with 184 hp or also with the 204hp?
So the kit you see in the video is for the 184bhp (dde4). You can buy a dde5 kit for the newer aluminium block m57n’s as well 👍🏽
@@KeepitBigBore okay, thanks for answering so fast still after 3 months, very good video also
No problem mate, good luck with your build 👍🏽
Where can one buy this kit?
house-of-torque.com/
how you turn off ews system ?
You’ll need to send it to a specialist to remove the ews function!
I have another question and im wondering if you could help me, i changed ecu, ews, and swapped the key chip from the donor car i took the engine, the starter isnt cranking, the fuel pump is working, at first i tought that the ews should be deleted but then i remembered, when i screwed on starter cable, i accidently put the wrench to the starter case, it shorted out for a less than a sec… so im wondering is there any fuse for the starter that could be blown?
How are you cranking the starter motor? Are you using the black wire on the body plug?
@@KeepitBigBore at first i tried with the key, then i connected two big ews wires and still nothing
@@KeepitBigBore im just trying to eliminate the problems that could before i pay someone to delete ews
Once you plug on your ecu, you shouldn’t have to worry about the 2 big wires, just plug it in to the ecu, put your key through the circular antenna and send 12v live to the black wire on the body plug, this is the wire for the starter motor.
@@KeepitBigBore ive got an update, there was a aftermarket relay for the starter, i deleted that, now the car cranks, fuel pump is working, but glow plug light stays on, and it wont start, any ideas?
I cont seem to order this ,can someone buy it and send it to me please, I'm trying to m57 my Discovery 2 but cont start the engine
Where about are you based and are you trying to order a standalone harness?
@@KeepitBigBore I'm in south africa, I tried all places in our country but nothing Wiseman like you advised doesn't deliver to RSA
Sorry to hear that. Have you tried MW machines here in the UK? What exactly are you trying to buy, is it just the standalone harness?
would you have anything for m57n2?
and also would you use 2 ecu for my nissan patrol? like nissan ecu and bmw ecu together so factory dash etc all work>?
The m57n2 is very similar if you use a standalone harness like this one. I wouldn’t recommend using 2 ecu’s, if you have an understanding of wiring then you can get the bmw ecu to control everything on your dash!!
Hi Keep it big bore.
I'm from Australia and looking at putting a m57 into my 1996 nissan gq patrol.
You say the blue plugs are for the auto transmission.
Just wondering if you would know If the auto transmission will still work as normal if I use it in my patrol.
The aut is fully controlled by the ECU isn't it?
Cheers love the video.
Hi Daniel,
I see no reason why it wouldn’t work if you were using the m57 with its original auto transmission. Mine came with the 5 speed auto, it’s not a bad transmission but it’s a bit slow and lazy, a lot of guys go for the newer 6 speed!! We’re you looking to keep the patrol transmission or use the BMW one?
@@KeepitBigBore
I wana keep it manual but my left knee is telling me to go bmw auto.
So your set up just uses the stock bmw transmission controller for the 5 sped auto no messing about?
Cheers again.
I have a friend who just bought a td5. I jumped in it the other day to feel how heavy his clutch was. I pushed it down and it hit the floor, I was expecting it to feel so much heavier as I’m used to driving my one. So my point is, if you go manual, you will need a heavy duty clutch and a heavy duty left knee to go with it 😂
My friend jumped in mine to see what my clutch was like, he jumped out and said he thinks his hip popped (he’s an older gentleman) 😬
Mine is manual and using the original Land Rover transmission so I didn’t use any of the transmission controller, just the original ecu 👍🏽
@@KeepitBigBore
Yher nice I should of picked up on that in the video, I been watching that many M57 swap videos 24/7 I caint remember half of them. Lol
Cheers heps for your help.
Do you have any pics of the plugs or sketches of how all the wiering is pinned out into the connectors?
I'm a bit sick on how to wire this thing.
No worries mate 😬
If you purchase one of the stand-alone kits then you won’t have to worry about pin outs, wires etc. She’ll just plug and play.
I have no diagrams for the wires and all of them are black so a picture might not be any help but trust me, she all clicks together 👍🏽
A lot of awesome information in this video man! I’m from Australia and looking to do this very soon in my SWB Y60, I’m planning on keeping the 6HP auto behind my m57, just curious to know how much more work it will be or if I’d be better off just using the stock Nissan manual?
Sorry I took so long to get back to you! I’d say absolutely go for the 6hp, at the end of the day, the 6hp won’t require custom adaptors, it’s a strong box and a lot of people are using it here in the UK. If I had a 6hp lying around I’d definitely use it 👍🏽
I am super glad I found your channel buddy. I'm doing a jaguar MK2 and throwing an M57 in it but the electronics have been baffling me. I can't express how happy I am with your info and how unhappy the jaguar enthusiasts are going to be ha ha
😂 there was one other guy who commented on one of my videos way back who was also swapping his Jaguar. Nothing better than a rolling coal Jag 👍🏽
I’ve been thinking of m57 swapping a bmw 318ti, I feel like it would be a load of fun
Your right, it would be a lot of fun!!!! There is a couple on UA-cam already. All that torque in a nice, compact chassis, it will be insane 😂😂😂
brilliant video, so clearly explained. I'm at the point of buying the actual m57 engine - so far i understand i need to buy the m57 engine including ecu & wiring harness in 3 parts (engine loom, injector loom, and ecu loom). Ive also figured out I will need to keep a few sensors such as MAF, lambda, boost temp, EGT as well as swirl flap and EGR vacuum solenoids. Lastly i will need the accelerator pedal and its wiring. I intend to use a zf8hp with a turbolamik controller. Could you kindly advice if there is anything i have left out for the engine to run standalone on a test bench? would appreciate your advice....many thanks
Hi mate, Thankyou very much!!
So most of the sensors you need will be attached to the engine apart from a pre supply pressure sensor which may be in the fuel filter unit.
If you are buying a complete car you will be able to clearly see where everything is when you remove the engine. Just make sure you have connected all the ground points and it should run on a test bench just as in my “first start” video 👍🏽👍🏽
Apologies for my late response also. I’ve been struggling to spend the time I’d like to spend on UA-cam !!
Hello mate. Sorting my own M57D and need to make a trolley to move it about a bit. Any chance you kept your measurements…?
Hello mate, unfortunately not. I didn’t really have any measurements, I just made it in situ around the engine. In all honesty, I’d didn’t have to be as complex as it was.
Great video👍 Going with Wiseman's kit for my M57 swap into the 90
That’s great to hear 👍🏽, thank you. make sure to send him a message before the other 4 people do 😂
Hey Big
This inspired me to do this myself, and i bought everything needed. Almost at goal now, but ive got no throttle, tried all kinds of different throttlepedals, but nothing goes. Inpa says it might be fixable to switch pot 1 and 2, but i have no idea what it is.
Any pointer will help :)
Hey mate, sorry for y late response!! Which pedal have you got at the moment and who did you buy the harness from. If you send me a message on Instagram with some pictures I’ll do my best to help out 👍🏽
@@KeepitBigBore no worries mate. Got it working. Had a great talk with Will from house of torque, as i bought the stuff from him :) he accidently misplaced 2 wires in the loom
Ash lovely, it’s so easy to happen and two wires can cause havoc 😂 haven’t ever spoken to will, I’ve only ever spoken to Max but they making a good range of products and are sweet up professionally so you can’t go wrong!! Good luck with it, let us know how it goes for you 👍🏽👍🏽
@@KeepitBigBore the car is up and running :) Ashcroft spacer for a ZF22 with 24 internals. Runs like a train!
😂😂 that’s great, they’re great fun aren’t they!! Makes me love my defender even more!!
Hi great video, I gather your defender is manual, I wanted to use the x5 6speed auto in my 90, dose the Ecu lead also control the auto gearbox?.
Many thanks
Hey, thank you!! I can’t say for sure if you can use the original transmission controller but I can’t see why you couldn’t either!!
The ecu won’t control it but the 6 speed auto will have its own transmission controller that works in conjunction with the ecu 👍🏽👍🏽
I want the m57 twin turbo in my iveco daily camper but its a scary project. Not really sure where to start
That would be a nice job!! Would you be doing the fabrication yourself?
@@KeepitBigBore mostly fab myself but I have a guy for any precision or CNC stuff. It's the wiring side of things that I'm useless at.
You made it sound simple. I'll be keeping my eyes open for a donor car that's for sure
Haha, don’t worry, if you can do and organise the fab and cnc side of it then trust me, the wiring will be a breeze 😬 Worst case scenario, you could get the engine in and geared/plumbed up then drop it in to someone for wiring 👍🏽
Don't worry about the wiring. Just did a swap myself and it fired up the first time.
what transmission can i used manual?
You can use A bmw 6 speed manual or the original Land Rover transmission 👍🏽
Hi, i am doing an M57 conversion in my Pajero. I have the same throttle potentiometer as you, but am unsure how to connect the 6 wires from it into the BMW loom. Can you help please?
Hi mate, I’m actually using the pedal type potentiometer on mine.
I used the one you seen in the video just for testing. I highly recommend buying a complete pedal type potentiometer to simplify your wiring. You can find these from the newer m57 cars.
Is there any reason why you want to use the cylindrical type?
How long you back in uk , I left 20 years ago to live in Ireland and would love to return, Great video
I’ve been here for about 12 years now. Really, why’s that?
Did you grow up in Ireland or England?
To be honest, I’m trying to get out of London and more into the county country side over here!!
Hi there I'm right here in the UK. I have tried to call Wiseman on the telephone number on FB but to no avail! Do you know any other ways I can get hold of the Wiseman crew
Hi Amral. You could try sending him a message, he put a post on Facebook a while ago about moving workshop so he might be hard to reach at the moment.
I contacted him through the number on Facebook also 👍🏽
Gosh, I would fly you into belfast, give you a weeks wage and help you to help me getting an M57 engine fitted into my Cherokee XJ
Sorry I never got back sooner mate!! I’d honestly do it if I didn’t have so much on my plate at the moment 😬 it would be a weekend get away for me!!!
Super Video, I can vouch for Max too, a decent guy with a cracking bit of kit and a genuine interest in all of our conversions
Thank you very much mate! He is indeed 😬
Thanks for commenting also!
Hi
I message you a couple of months ago regarding my defender 90 swap I’m at a stage where the chassis is now built up and obviously I’m looking to find an x5 donor, the M57 is that the TwinTurbo or is the newer X5 a TwinTurbo I’m confused on which engine to go for, can you help me out there as if I buy the whole vehicle I’ve got everything I possibly need for the change but not sure which one to get, there’s a lot out there at fairly reasonable prices scrapped or damaged
Kind regards mark
Hi mate, I can’t say for sure but I don’t think the m57 x5 came as twin turbo. (Anyone feel free to correct me).
If your looking for a twin turbo m57 then I think you need to be looking for 335d’s and 535d’s.
Why do you want an x5 engine?
Hi
I just thought that was the one to go for when fitting it’s 6 speed automatic m57 or m57n all alloy block big turbo with the little one below it. ?. A bit confusing.
Regards
The x5 came with the 4wd auto and the 3 and 5 series had the 2 wheel drive box. You can use either one. You can buy adaptors to the lt230 transfer case for both boxes so best option is to fund a supplier for your adaptor, see which one you can get and decide your engine from there 👍🏽
Hi
Adaptor for td5 Discovery(engine-gearbox)
Hi mate, do you need an adaptor for this gearbox? Or for the engine to a different gearbox?
Hi, great video, i have i question, do i still have to change the gas pedal, i swapped m47 to m57, the pedals are slightly different, but could it prevent the car from starting?
Thanks very much!
As far as I’m aware, they use a similar potentiometer in the pedal, I’m not sure if the pinouts are the same but either way, it should not prevent it from starting. I ran my engine in my test stand without the pedal connected many times.
@@KeepitBigBore thanks for answering so fast, then i can shut it off from the list
No worries mate, good luck with it 👍🏽
Great parts manufacturing and information!
Thank you!
Very helpful mate 👍🏽 feel much better about the swap now 💪🏼
No worries mate, I’m glad it helped 👍🏽👍🏽
I have to ask what accent yours is ?? kinda seems like a mix of Irish and something else ??? :)
😂😂 just pure midlands Irish ☘️
@@KeepitBigBore I literally got back from Southern Ireland a couple weeks or so ago, and my first wife's family were Irish, and I still couldn't be 1000% certain :D lol
If you ever go to county Laois or Offaly you’ll hear it 😬 😂
Will this work with the TD6 M57?
No reason why it won’t! I can’t say if the ecu is exactly the same or not but I know the engine is pretty much identical to the 306d1 (cast iron block) it’s just a Land Rover badge on it
What a fantastic informative video. You have made it sound simple enough for a non mechanic to understand.
Q. How old is the engine whi h connects to this? Wouldn't an newer motor have a lot more wires? Thanks again.
Thankyou!!
This engine is from a 1999 530D (e39) they made this engine up to 2003 as far as I know.
It then changed to an aluminium block, and a redesign of the engine (pistons, injectors ecu etc). My engine is the dde4. The newer m57 used dde5 and most of the wiring is very similar 👍🏽
@@KeepitBigBore You are awesome mate, thanks for the very helpful information. I am looking to build a Nissan Patrol for a trip around Australia and the ZD30 engine is not very reliable, or powerful. I was thinking of your motor for a conversion but thought it might be too difficult.
You have given me hope again and will now do more research on the engine. Thank you mate.
No worries mate, I’m glad you found it helpful!
It’s very simple to get up and running, you may have seen the first start video already but I made a short video of the engine running while on a stand on my workshop floor. Once you’ve connected everything and all your ground points, she’ll fire up no matter what vehicle it’s in!!
Good luck with it, the patrol is a great vehicle for this conversion 👍🏽👍🏽
@@KeepitBigBore You really are very generous with your time and information mate. If I do take the risk and go for this massive project, would I be able to pay you for advice when I need it? It won't be for a while as I need to sell 2 other cars first.
Thankyou but Don’t worry mate, I’ll try to help you if I can, no need for payment. If your interested, I have custom made m57 logos for sale on my website www.keepitbigbore.com I made the website myself so I’m still getting round to making it look good and adding more products. If you decide you want one then that’s payment enough 👍🏽
Your a true Gent 👍
Top content again 😎❤️❤️❤️❤️ Looking good
Top man, thank you! Can always count on Peter Wall 👍🏽👍🏽😬
Fair play to you bro
Thank you mate 😬
Nice , kept it simple ,
👍🏽 I’m glad it helped 👍🏽
Excellent 👌 thanks 👍
Your welcome 👍🏽👍🏽
Nice video
Thank you very much!! Thanks for commenting also 👍🏽
Hi, how you connect the rpm gauge? Thanks
Hi mate. There is an RPM output from your ecu, it’s just 1 wire. I’ve left a link in the description for the rpm gauge I’ve used. It’s the only one that showed 6000rpm instead of 8,10 or 12 thousand so it’s specifically for Diesel engines. You can also calibrate this to suit different engines.
I know my idle speed it roughly 750rpm. When connecting the gauge for the first time, my idle showed as 3000rpm. There is a small knob on the back, just turn it and the rpm will drop/raise as you turn in. I turned mine until it showed 750rpm at idle. It’s now accurate right up to 4750rpm. 👍🏽
@@KeepitBigBore many thanks for your help mate 💪💪👍
hi, i bought the rpm gauge like yours and i connect the pink wire to the red wire coming from the gauge... and the gauge dont work! Im doing the connection wrong? How you connect your wires in your rpm gauge? Thanks again
Hey mate, is it not working at all? Do the lights on the rpm gauge come on when you turn the ignition on? I can’t remember the colours of the wires but as far as I remember, there was ground, ignition and rpm signal. When you turn the ignition on, the gauge should turn from zero to max rpm and then back to zero again, does it do this?
@@KeepitBigBore yes goes from zero to max and comes back again... I dont know why dont work, and the light works aswell
how much is this kit ?
Hi mate, you can buy this from “house of torque” “Mw machines” and more, have a look on their website and Facebook page and reach out to them as I don’t sell this product myself 👍🏽
@@KeepitBigBore thank you sir !!!!!!!!
Hi mate, do you have to send power to the black wire to start it or can you use the vehicles original starter wire straight to the solenoid?
We are trying this way and the engine is obviously cranking but it won't start. Is there anything else on the body plug that we need to connect?
We have fuel at the rail, the inline pump is working but we think it's only 3 bar and don't have a gauge to check. Would it at least try to start with only 3 bar?
Hi mate, sorry I didn’t get back sooner!!
Have you got your problem sorted?
The easiest way is to use the black wire, you can hot wire the starter but I’d stick to the black wire on the body plug if I were you.
3 bar is enough to start!!
@@KeepitBigBore hi mate, yeah we got it sorted, was a faulty rail pressure sensor and rail pressure control valve, we were getting fuel at the rail but it was getting there via the faulty control valve rather than the high pressure pump. Runs like a dream now. ✌️
Fair play mate!! What do you reckon, was it worth it 😬
@@KeepitBigBore was deffo worth it, we've fitted it to a 1989 VW lt35, originally 57bhp I think and now just under 300bhp.
The hardest part of the whole conversion was getting the shifter cable to work on the 6hp26. We had the biggest headache with different cables, levers and brackets but got there in the end. A 6hp28 with the electronic shifter would have been much easier.
Could do with a brake upgrade now though 😅
WWHAAT??? 🤣🤣🤣 I’d love to see some people try and pull away from you in that! That’s the perfect kind of sleepers right there! I keep up with people in the old defender and people are usually surprised but you’d never expect a lt35 to be terrorising you 😂😂😂