tbh that's not really an "idol" thing. it's more common than you think bc a lot of people rush to get married when they're expecting as to not be shamed by the public for having sex before marriage.
Considering how many of these quick marriages with babies and quick secession end up in divorce? No, they are not ready, and honestly. It's possible that they are being coerced into it. I don't know about Korea, but I know certain areas in the U.S.; if you have a Baby outside of wedlock, you might as well just move out of the country. Or the very least, out of the county I live in a county like this, and it's very common for people not to have kids within wedlock. It's really common, but if you're part of any of the churches, you might as well just disappear to the point in which the kids I grew up with I babysat for them. I changed their diapers. Treated me like I had the plague Mind you, I had been in a relationship for over twelve years, and I got married two years ago because he was not on my Son's medical records, and that concerned me because I Had almost been put into foster care. Myy aunt had taken me to the Doctor because I had a head injur,y but she didn't have permissionfromr my mother like written permission . I almost ended up ie foster car e., So I did not wathis nt to happen to my s on. Just in case something happened to me.
Fun fact, most girls won’t know they are pregnant until towards 2-3months, it literally won’t show until 8-9 weeks, the test strips just won’t even pick it up unless you do ultra sound. And even then I’ve heard many cases where people find out in the second trimester 😅
@@greentofuhousetest will show up positive after 2 weeks or for sure a good test (store bought) after you miss your period. So at max it would take a month for accurate results. That is when hormonal changes are detected
It's always the female idol being nearly a decade younger than the male idol, and the female idol being the one to quit her career while the male typically keeps his. Not saying it's bad all the time, but sometimes it's sad.
so what's your solution then? She has to carry for 9 months and then recover from birth, or are you suggesting a female idol dancing and jumping and stressing out during promotions while being pregnant and/or returning to promoting couple days after giving birth? and after being out of business for a while they can just want to keep it like this. Not all of them, certainly, but some do. Pregnancy is very different for women than for men to have a pregnant wife/gf
@@depressed_firefly your comprehension is lacking. the comment was highlighting how these relationships feel boarderline predatory at worst, and unfair to say the least. these male idols already HAVE their career and have had it for a while, where these female idols, more likely than not, are just starting out. it’s not about any of the stuff you mentioned in your comment, it’s just the ickiness of these relationships that should be more closely examined
@@depressed_firefly you know that's not what they mean and you're looking for something to get mad at. A lot of female idols don't even have kids after getting married because they know that even if they decide to come back after the child is old enough for school, they'll be seen as a bad mother. Meanwhile their husbands can go back and dance on stage for their fans as if nothing happened. It's just a crazy double standard at this point because if the female idol wants to return as a soloist when her kids don't need her as much, she should be allowed to.
Idol culture is absolutely garbage anyways. They literally treat you creepily in that industry and everybody pretends it is acceptable. no it is not Good for those idols escaping that shitty predatory industry just because it makes alot of money
It is their lives. Let them live it the way they want. Also South Korea needs more babies. There will be no future for South Korea if the birthrates keep dropping.
@@le96g It could be what the OP said too yk. Pregnancy can put the idol in hiatus and promoting could be alot lower due to it. Or get "distracted" by the relationship. Staffs who leaks info says that trainees are seperated to avoid pregnancy. It could be what u said and what the OP said.
Let's just agree that being pregnant halts your professional schedule. Let alone a relationship. Pick and choose. Which one first. My personal opinion is that Family is a humble stable foundation that you need. A career can come and go like the wind. Funny thing is I don't have either. Almost late 20s. No kids or career in sight. 😂 I'm not thinking about my future.
I’m sorry but kpop sells so well because it’s your personal boyfriend or girlfriend and them being pregnant just breaks the illusion, plus they train all day all night a baby would interfere. It’s a job at the end of the day, not unfair at all.
@@jennyhateseverything it is unfair people perform with children and while being pregnant all the time, if they can do it so can anyone else if they want. If the issue is parasocialism, then that needs to stop because it's unrealistic unfair and stupid.
@@jennyhateseverything it’s unfair, parents can hold a job whilst having children first of all. And there’s plenty of male idols who are married or have children who still have a career. There is more pressure for women in general to drop their lives to become mothers. And just because boyfriend/girlfriend parasocial relationships are part of the appeal doesn’t mean it’s good or healthy to encourage.
No, the world is sadly not Utopia. When you choose a certain career you gotta commit to what it takes. You can't have your cake and eat it too, that's just not reality
The first one she said there’s actually a show about it that’s in Korea which is called the return of Superman Jam jam. It’s about their kid whose name is jam jam.I hope you guys wanna watch it because it’s a really funny show
i was actually quite saddened for yulhee, i love laboum and when she left i still supported her. i was even following her till like last yr and was updated to most of her mom life than when she was in laboum lol TT I'm so sad she and her husband didn't last long, but i hope she's happy right now~
Do you know why Minhwan was the one to get the custody? Like I'm just curious because they say he got the custody not shared and I don't really follow either of them, (I don't really expect you to know but I figured ur my best shot lol)
@@paigehardy4977from what i understand and what i remember, minhwan got custody so his parents could help around since they live close by also so the kids get to stay in the same home they've lived at when minhwan and yulhee were still married, it's so nothing would change for the kids. yulhee spends a lot pf time with the kids she often posts photos or videos of her hanging out with the kids she's still pretty much an active parent, they just stay with minhwan at home. i think they did what's best for the kids.
im sorry for yulhee, i think she didnt want to be married and have a kid at just 20, her life was practically ruined, thats why you always have protection so you dont have a kid before marriage
@@lunar..eclipsebut pretty damn close. You're not getting pregnant if you're doing what you're supposed to. These females just don't like taking accountability. You may not have been trying to get pregnant but you weren't trying not to either
I hate people to you, honestly. Always blaming the man and always thinking because a woman is young she's stupid. She could have fully wanted and planned for that child. You don't know and suggesting otherwise is disrespectful to everyone involved and this is coming from someone who married at 19 and still going. SoKo isn't America. Stop putting your western hands in our eastern pots
Having a child at 20 is not a bad thing if you’re financially stable. Ruined life? Children are a blessing. I wish I had baby at 20 but unfortunately I could due to certain circumstances.
is it just me or is it kinda sad how the female idols are the younger ones and the older male idols end marrying them and end up getting them pregnant? don’t tell me most of these are a situation of baby trapping 😢 (THIS COMMENT IS REFERRING TO THE FIRST AGE GAP. 25 AND AN ALMOST 40 Y/O MALE IS KINDA CRAZY BUT OH WELL.)
just sad about minhwan & yulhee dixxxxed situation that impacting their children.. 😢😢 i love them together but now.... seeing jaeyul phone calling his mom instead of just called omma around.. just hit hard on him😢
He'll be ok. Divorce isn't a big deal and it's way better than staying together "for the children". Kids can sense that hostility and it just gives them an overall horrible view on love and marriage
Ye right i feel bad for jaeyul when his mom was there with him he was so attached to his grandma but when he became close to his mom his parents separated leaving the kids with their dad 😢
@@gmmartines7331Divorce most certainly IS a big deal. Of course it might be necessary in some situations, but as a child of divorced parents it fundamentally changes you. The tension that inevitably comes, the unknown truth of the separation and different sides to the story, the feeling of instability. As a child, I thought it was for the best, but what honestly would have been the best is if they sought out marriage counseling and worked through their problems.
@@gmmartines7331 its a big deal for many and their parents didn't separate cuz they don't love each other they separated bcuz the father's mom means the kids grandma. U r saying cuz u haven't watched the show if u watch then only u will understand how much that boy is crying and yearning for his mom
@@Her844 ah yes patriarchy, which created an entire industry for women to be called "idols" and get rich and famous for not much there than being attractive and good at dancing. can women just go 5 seconds without being a perpetual victim
I mean, how can you still dancing and all while being pregnant and later breastfeeding. Its for their own good. They can be an influencer open up youtube channel or something since they’re already famous
@@aloneinbangkok8534 I'm not saying the men don't deserve to continue with their careers. It's just that the girls trained so hard for their debut as well and once they get pregnant it's like the end of their careers. They somehow in a sense get pushed out of their groups because of pregancies. It would've been fine if they could still comeback to their groups but most of the times they will just be put on hiatus until disbandment or kickedout.
@@-karma-2426 So they are children then? Why don’t we make laws to stop younger women from pursuing older men then? Something they are factually known to do? Do you watch “corn”?
Sunye's marriage and pregnancy announcements were so well-received by fans. I can't remember any protests or negative comments. If there were, i guess it was only 0.0001% of the community. 😅
And this is why I don't want to date someone who's basically a whole decade older than me. I don't want to be with someone who drags me in a SUGAR relationship
@@guanluo3279one party has more experience and the other doesn’t. A middle aged person is so much more knowledgeable than someone just becoming fully developed.
@@unfortuneattic both are adults, he is older but she isn't a child, she knows what she wants and to be honest most women prefer way older men because of stability.
@@raerohan4241 Uh oh looks like we have a simp! There is no such thing as being out of someones league. Looks don't matter at all, only personalities do. You must have some serious relationship trauma, you should get that checked out.
Yeah what the fuck did she see in him, no offense…he looks so old compared to her I would’ve assumed that was her dad. Peculiar innit… risked her career for him as well. He must be funny or was offering her more money than the measly chump change and crusty fan gifts she was getting as an idol
The second girl doesnt Say how much months they were pregnant, that couldve been a month, and in a month nothing shows, thats a perfectly normal body tbh
I knew Yulhees' marriage would fail. I remember that they were basically living at his parents' house or the parents were living at his house. The door to their space had a window in the middle so his mom could look in on them. Super creepy! It sucks that he took her kids, but she was also very young and maybe not ready to parent alone. Most likely, tho, they just used influence to take her kids because he didn't want to support them
that yulhee fancam isn't a "baby bump" that's just a woman with a uterus. Every cis woman has that "bump" because that's where our reproductive organs are.
Neither men nor fans understand the fact women have bumps without babies being present. There are men and some women who don't know women have three holes in their crotches and women don't menstruate from their urethras.
To be far you wouldn’t even know you’re pregnant at 1 month. Most women don’t find out until after 2 months pregnant. It doesn’t even show up on pregnancy tests until then.
in fact, this is not true. u can find out that you are pregnant at least one week after fertilization. of course, you often only suspect it when your period is late and it is recommended to wait at least a while before taking the test for the beta-HCG hormone to actually be well detected. but saying it doesnt show up its a lie
I wish they can all just marry when they're ready and have babies if they wish to. Also, is it so difficult to return to activities after a baby in kpop? Their agencies need to help them. They can take a break maybe to get back in shape and then come back. Settling down is just another PHASE of life.
ikr, there was a recent group called mamadol that was made up of former idols that had become moms. but even that didn't work out, i believe they disbanded very soon after debut. it's so sad especially given that male idols can continue in their careers after having children
They are having kids so young too. They are not mature enough to have children. You should not even think about having a child until you are financially stable, happy, in a good relationship that has lasted over 8 years, and own a home and car. If you don't have the money to pay for a child, a car, a house, medical bills, and their college, you do not need a child. A child is a tiny human, they are a lot of work and money, the majority of people are not prepared for that. I highly recommend fostering a child before you adopt one of have one.
See I KNEW some of them actually live lives AND be idols! It's possible. It's too bad that fans (pretend fans) hear or suspect something & turn it into a "bad" thing & stress out the artist/idol...let them live, make mistakes, AND be able to correct them & move on 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 to all the little couples who stayed together happy🥂
It's so sad that healthy female tummy is considered pregnancy. I know all of them were pregnant fr but the way ppl suspected them looking at the state of their tummies is crazy
I feel like this is normally why you would hear like the stories of companies not only banning the idea of their idol dating. But i always think about how especially during second gen how female idols would always warned the newer girl groups about talking to the older at male idols because I think they always knew that these dudes would pray on these women regardless of their age like people being like all 25 and 40 isn't that big of an age Gap or being a 20 year old who just debuted with someone who's been established at that point I'm pretty sure FT Island has been around for almost a decade not to mention they were a well-respected group / band and people fucking love them so like the idea of turning them down it's the same when I look back at like Dawn and HyunA. 😅 Like are you really going to sit there and try to deny these older seniors in the industry. Like I feel like most people would sit there and think about okay this can have bad repercussions and we know this for a fact because we've seen it whether we talked about idols or even acting. All it would take is that senior sitting there and talking about what a horrible Junior you are or that you were disrespectful or whatever even if no one freaking saw it and it would ruin your and your group's reputation.
Jesus, this is such an excellent point. With the superiority culture there (hierarchy? what's the term) you're so right that a senior talking bad about you is all anyone would believe or pay attention to. You'd be cooked. You may even like them, but it can't fail to be at the back of your mind that there's no real way out of it. That's just a toxic dynamic from the start, even if you're in love with them and eager to date them. People have to be more conscious of power imbalances and only ask out people when that power imbalance is gone.
broo what are you on. yulhee and minhwan hit it off after a blind date. I didn't want to say this but I see it often, parents who got pregnant early get kids who also got pregnant early which is the same with yulhee. maybe that's why yulhee might not think its a problem she even wanted to have a next kid but minhwan says 3 kids are already enough and got a vasectomy behind her back
i can tell for sure these women got pregnant because the old guys didn't want to wear protection and ofc in korea a woman CAN'T tell otherwise. they all got married because of the pregnancy, that's depressing. some ended up divorcing and don't forget they now have kids, wait till they grow and see what really happened with their parents. fr depressing
Divorce is parmanant case in most of the korean marriage 😢😢😅 why divorce rate highest in Korea it means they are not understanding in their relationship 😐
see this video is the reason why i dont believe many of the idols now aren't dating each other... even the 4th generation ones who try so hard not to be seen interacting with each other, i can bet many of them would be dating bc how can they not 😭 all that attractiveness cant go to waste
Is Yulhee the mother of Jaeyul, Arin and Ahyun? The dad seems familiar and the amount of kids they had are the same as the 3 kids parents and Arin and Ahyun are twins.
I cant believe she said “she got married at just 22” girlll in my culture girls get lttr married 17 or 18 and when youre above 24 youre considered too old , and yall call 22 too early😭😭
That must be a culture shock to hear. There is a valid point that someone is too young to really be having any agency when they're 17 or 18, it's too young to marry, especially for a woman when it's so common for many cultures to view women as someone to be controlled rather than respected. Even 20 or 22, your life experience is not very broad and your brain isn't fully developed. If anything, it's a disservice to any children you have right away since you haven't had enough time to learn how to control your own emotions and get enough education to learn how to raise children in a peaceful manner.
@@milli3377no girls want to get married at that age and its illegal to force someone to get married so yeah girls choose to get married at 17 or 18 even my own father said you can get married at 18 but i dont want that its too early
@@alexia3552nahh girls can decide if they want to get married our parents do not even force us they want to get married at that age but i think its too early cause im 15 and i cant even cook😭
The second set of parents hit me hard when I realized who they were because I've been watching the show their kids are on and just found out about the divorce I wish blessings and happiness for the parents and children as it can't be easy dealing with all that
Condoms are only 70% effective. My baby cousin was an accident and her parents used protection. Her dumb mother was not on birth control either. Condoms do not protect at all.
@@mobstercrow7515Condoms are actually 98% effective and also protect against STD’s, the reason why Koreans don’t use them is because the men often pressure the women not to because they are misogynistic a holes.
I was there for Sunye. WG was my first gg and she was was 1 one of my biases. But the moment i knew she was getting married, i knew her idol career was getting axed. She was one of those who trained the longest,like 7 years or so, was the leader and the main vocals... I actually was regretting for her career.
You realise there isn't any form of protection that's 100% effective? You're only seeing the outlier cases. There definitely are other idols engaging in extramarital relations and not knocking someone up/getting knocked up. Not exactly a secret
@@jennyhateseverything So? They aren't getting any blame for any of these. Neither will they lose their career. They aren't getting caught in a marriage scandal and get around with many girls without fans knowing.
This is sad. They were all so young and jumped into marriage. Like we're they even really ready?? And the fact that they had given up their careers while the guy continues his... I hate that. I hate when we're expected to give up our careers but they can continue theirs. Being a woman/mom fucking sucks. I'm honestly glad that guy took the kids. It's usually always the woman who has to give up everything and have to take custody. Makes me heart warm seeing the man doing it instead, for once lol.
I find it very funny that there’s a leap to get married before the pregnancy is announced or discovered- the idea that South Korean society (and much of the rest of the world) is so adamant on marriage before childbearing that it essentially becomes a quick fix against ridicule. As if leaping haphazardly into a marriage is better for the future of a child and family than taking time to truly think/work things out.
Yulhee gave up on custody of her kids to ensure they live in a good environment. She didn't have a stable income, and Korean law is kind of harsh on women. Their kids also live with Minhwan's family before, and he has a stable income to provide for their kids. So I guess minhwan the better choice for the kids but they still meet yulhee just not often. Try watch return of Superman minhwan Just my POV; Honestly I'm feeling sad for yulhee. Bc she didn't get many chance on entertainment anymore after they get married and their divorce made her image worsen. But minhwan still get appearance offer after their divorced This is why people said law in Korea didn't side with women. Sadly
@@sortaamy3003that’s not the case for ALL countries. In my country, women tend to get custody because moms usually have stronger bonds with their child and usually are the main caretaker of their child. Men who don’t get the custody have to pay a sum of allowances every month for the child, and vice versa
The west usually side with mom and dad has to pay, but in some Asian countries are not like that, the kids actually goes to who can support them better financially.
@chewlsyy I don't think it was the mother in law. Yulhee loved her MIL and appreciated the help she got when Minhwan was in the military. I believe their divorce was because Minhwan was always busy with concerts and promoting with FTIsland leaving Yulhee alone with their kids. She expressed a few times on her youtube vlogs that she felt lonely without him there with her. She was in her early 20s raising a toddler and twin babies by herself. That stress tore her and their marriage apart.
@@lena_nguyen17no! actually the mother in law is indeed the problem! she tells the mom what to do and not to do, what her kids should eat and not eat.. and also another problem is minhwan wants a new baby, but his ex-wife doesn't for the being, because they already have 3, who's still young.. anout the swcond one i might be wrong because i got that information from other person who also wasn't sure of..
Bruh how expensive are condoms/birth control? But then again, these people have the money to get married on such short notice, take care of the baby, and then divorce like it’s a dating simulator you see in ads
@@pinksstunnagirl not when you gave up YOUR literal life desire to play wife to a ninja who divorced you and you can't keep your kids because you have no job. And then you have to look for a job, but you're not qualified because you spent your entire childhood being an idol, therefore have to go back to school and then complete it after a decade, but then can't get a life partner because of societal baggage of outside children. .. let's not forget that this is SK, she has to start at the complete bottom to make it. Again..... That's why I asked if she has even lived. Or even had her desired fulfilled. And then y'all question why some women are zombies in their marriage 🙂
@@donttalk372 it’s not that she can’t keep her kids. The two parents are still close with each other and decided it was best for the kids to stay with him since he already had his own place and the kids grew up in that house. She still sees them often and is living pretty happily now.
@@jinnxx2729 All people ever hear is “Have kids or you’ll regret it” oh “they had kids I bet they regret that” how about you keep quiet about other’s lives and live your own?
I hope this changed now. It's ok to still be active after giving birth. The female idols can just ask for a break when their pregnant just like how any normal jobs are, I think it's by law to give women maternity break. I mean being pregnant and becoming a mother doesn't necessarily mean your lesser of an idol.
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It’s crazy how often idols get pregnant and then get married soon after because of it. Makes me wonder of they were truly ready for marriage
they're not ready
they never are, that's the thing
tbh that's not really an "idol" thing. it's more common than you think bc a lot of people rush to get married when they're expecting as to not be shamed by the public for having sex before marriage.
Considering how many of these quick marriages with babies and quick secession end up in divorce? No, they are not ready, and honestly. It's possible that they are being coerced into it. I don't know about Korea, but I know certain areas in the U.S.; if you have a Baby outside of wedlock, you might as well just move out of the country. Or the very least, out of the county
I live in a county like this, and it's very common for people not to have kids within wedlock. It's really common, but if you're part of any of the churches, you might as well just disappear to the point in which the kids I grew up with I babysat for them. I changed their diapers. Treated me like I had the plague
Mind you, I had been in a relationship for over twelve years, and I got married two years ago because he was not on my Son's medical records, and that concerned me because I Had almost been put into foster care. Myy aunt had taken me to the Doctor because I had a head injur,y but she didn't have permissionfromr my mother like written permission . I almost ended up ie foster car e., So I did not wathis nt to happen to my s on. Just in case something happened to me.
No sadly
it’s sooo crazy how much can be happening and you don’t realize until it’s announced.
Fun fact, most girls won’t know they are pregnant until towards 2-3months, it literally won’t show until 8-9 weeks, the test strips just won’t even pick it up unless you do ultra sound. And even then I’ve heard many cases where people find out in the second trimester 😅
@@greentofuhousetest will show up positive after 2 weeks or for sure a good test (store bought) after you miss your period. So at max it would take a month for accurate results. That is when hormonal changes are detected
😨😨😨@@greentofuhouse
Welp that’s what you get when your fandom is crazy
@@greentofuhouseor until they're in labor, in a few cases
It's surprising how quickly things can change in K-pop.
That's not Kpop, that's life
NOT YOU AGAIN
Are you dumb
I'm seeing you everywhere 🤨
@lostunfilesno he talking about life
The first one is Jamjam's parents 😂 she is really cute
Yes i loved jamjam in return of superman 😂😂
2nd one is jaehyul ayul and arin's parents 😂
@@KrishnendhuKNair yeah but they divorced i think...
@@_sleep3 yes
Who is jamjam?
It's always the female idol being nearly a decade younger than the male idol, and the female idol being the one to quit her career while the male typically keeps his. Not saying it's bad all the time, but sometimes it's sad.
so what's your solution then? She has to carry for 9 months and then recover from birth, or are you suggesting a female idol dancing and jumping and stressing out during promotions while being pregnant and/or returning to promoting couple days after giving birth?
and after being out of business for a while they can just want to keep it like this. Not all of them, certainly, but some do.
Pregnancy is very different for women than for men to have a pregnant wife/gf
@@depressed_firefly your comprehension is lacking. the comment was highlighting how these relationships feel boarderline predatory at worst, and unfair to say the least. these male idols already HAVE their career and have had it for a while, where these female idols, more likely than not, are just starting out. it’s not about any of the stuff you mentioned in your comment, it’s just the ickiness of these relationships that should be more closely examined
@@depressed_firefly you know that's not what they mean and you're looking for something to get mad at. A lot of female idols don't even have kids after getting married because they know that even if they decide to come back after the child is old enough for school, they'll be seen as a bad mother. Meanwhile their husbands can go back and dance on stage for their fans as if nothing happened. It's just a crazy double standard at this point because if the female idol wants to return as a soloist when her kids don't need her as much, she should be allowed to.
Idol culture is absolutely garbage anyways. They literally treat you creepily in that industry and everybody pretends it is acceptable. no it is not
Good for those idols escaping that shitty predatory industry just because it makes alot of money
It is their lives. Let them live it the way they want. Also South Korea needs more babies. There will be no future for South Korea if the birthrates keep dropping.
jamjam be dancing in her wombs😭🤣
😂😂😂
She’s jumping to bar bar bar 😂
I guess that's why dating is strictly prohibited in a lot of idol contracts
Yeah, right
No, it's not. It's because the kpop industry feeds on fan's ilusion of their idols being avaliable.
No it's because delusional fans think they have a shot with these idols so to prevent them from getting mad they stop idols from dating
@@le96g It could be what the OP said too yk. Pregnancy can put the idol in hiatus and promoting could be alot lower due to it. Or get "distracted" by the relationship. Staffs who leaks info says that trainees are seperated to avoid pregnancy. It could be what u said and what the OP said.
Let's just agree that being pregnant halts your professional schedule. Let alone a relationship.
Pick and choose.
Which one first. My personal opinion is that Family is a humble stable foundation that you need.
A career can come and go like the wind.
Funny thing is I don't have either. Almost late 20s. No kids or career in sight. 😂 I'm not thinking about my future.
I don't like how female idols essentially have to give up their careers to be wives and moms, you can do all 3 if you want.
I’m sorry but kpop sells so well because it’s your personal boyfriend or girlfriend and them being pregnant just breaks the illusion, plus they train all day all night a baby would interfere. It’s a job at the end of the day, not unfair at all.
@@jennyhateseverything it is unfair people perform with children and while being pregnant all the time, if they can do it so can anyone else if they want. If the issue is parasocialism, then that needs to stop because it's unrealistic unfair and stupid.
@@jennyhateseverything it’s unfair, parents can hold a job whilst having children first of all. And there’s plenty of male idols who are married or have children who still have a career. There is more pressure for women in general to drop their lives to become mothers. And just because boyfriend/girlfriend parasocial relationships are part of the appeal doesn’t mean it’s good or healthy to encourage.
No, the world is sadly not Utopia. When you choose a certain career you gotta commit to what it takes. You can't have your cake and eat it too, that's just not reality
It's a lot to juggle but surely there's a way for some in richer/more stable groups
The first one she said there’s actually a show about it that’s in Korea which is called the return of Superman Jam jam. It’s about their kid whose name is jam jam.I hope you guys wanna watch it because it’s a really funny show
You do know that is very old news as in several YEARS old.
You're forgetting one After School member pregnant during one Korean show performing for special appearance.
But that was a special appearance, After School is no longer active
They were not active anymore just made a special appearance (short reunion) for 2 songs. They went back to their normal lives after that.
Who was the member?
@@once_I_have_inSomnia it was Jung ah
@@once_I_have_inSomnia Jungah! She was 5 months along. :)
i was actually quite saddened for yulhee, i love laboum and when she left i still supported her. i was even following her till like last yr and was updated to most of her mom life than when she was in laboum lol TT I'm so sad she and her husband didn't last long, but i hope she's happy right now~
Do you know why Minhwan was the one to get the custody? Like I'm just curious because they say he got the custody not shared and I don't really follow either of them, (I don't really expect you to know but I figured ur my best shot lol)
@@paigehardy4977 i’m sorry i also don’t know & i dont wanna assume anything :))
@@paigehardy4977from what i understand and what i remember, minhwan got custody so his parents could help around since they live close by also so the kids get to stay in the same home they've lived at when minhwan and yulhee were still married, it's so nothing would change for the kids. yulhee spends a lot pf time with the kids she often posts photos or videos of her hanging out with the kids she's still pretty much an active parent, they just stay with minhwan at home. i think they did what's best for the kids.
@@sur_un_nuage thx for clarifying!
@@paigehardy4977he has more money to take care of them
lol the second baby bump looks like me at night after eating 😂😂
im sorry for yulhee, i think she didnt want to be married and have a kid at just 20, her life was practically ruined, thats why you always have protection so you dont have a kid before marriage
Definitely always have protection, but unfortunately no method of birth control is 100% effective
@@lunar..eclipsebut pretty damn close. You're not getting pregnant if you're doing what you're supposed to. These females just don't like taking accountability. You may not have been trying to get pregnant but you weren't trying not to either
I hate people to you, honestly. Always blaming the man and always thinking because a woman is young she's stupid. She could have fully wanted and planned for that child. You don't know and suggesting otherwise is disrespectful to everyone involved and this is coming from someone who married at 19 and still going. SoKo isn't America. Stop putting your western hands in our eastern pots
Having a child at 20 is not a bad thing if you’re financially stable. Ruined life? Children are a blessing. I wish I had baby at 20 but unfortunately I could due to certain circumstances.
@@Rita1406-w1gif someday your children asking "why you bring me to the world i never asked to be born" what's your answer?
is it just me or is it kinda sad how the female idols are the younger ones and the older male idols end marrying them and end up getting them pregnant? don’t tell me most of these are a situation of baby trapping 😢
(THIS COMMENT IS REFERRING TO THE FIRST AGE GAP. 25 AND AN ALMOST 40 Y/O MALE IS KINDA CRAZY BUT OH WELL.)
no not at all
Girls needs to get educated. If can be a blessing, but also not something they want.
It's a case of fucking around and finding out
Pedophilia
@@pollutionpoetlmaooo ok real
just sad about minhwan & yulhee dixxxxed situation that impacting their children.. 😢😢 i love them together but now.... seeing jaeyul phone calling his mom instead of just called omma around.. just hit hard on him😢
He'll be ok. Divorce isn't a big deal and it's way better than staying together "for the children". Kids can sense that hostility and it just gives them an overall horrible view on love and marriage
Ye right i feel bad for jaeyul when his mom was there with him he was so attached to his grandma but when he became close to his mom his parents separated leaving the kids with their dad 😢
Omgggg. I didnt know
@@gmmartines7331Divorce most certainly IS a big deal. Of course it might be necessary in some situations, but as a child of divorced parents it fundamentally changes you. The tension that inevitably comes, the unknown truth of the separation and different sides to the story, the feeling of instability. As a child, I thought it was for the best, but what honestly would have been the best is if they sought out marriage counseling and worked through their problems.
@@gmmartines7331 its a big deal for many and their parents didn't separate cuz they don't love each other they separated bcuz the father's mom means the kids grandma. U r saying cuz u haven't watched the show if u watch then only u will understand how much that boy is crying and yearning for his mom
It's sad that the girls have to leave their groups while the men xan keep their careers 😢
Patriarchy
@@Her844 ah yes patriarchy, which created an entire industry for women to be called "idols" and get rich and famous for not much there than being attractive and good at dancing.
can women just go 5 seconds without being a perpetual victim
I mean, how can you still dancing and all while being pregnant and later breastfeeding. Its for their own good. They can be an influencer open up youtube channel or something since they’re already famous
why is that sad?
@@aloneinbangkok8534 I'm not saying the men don't deserve to continue with their careers. It's just that the girls trained so hard for their debut as well and once they get pregnant it's like the end of their careers.
They somehow in a sense get pushed out of their groups because of pregancies. It would've been fine if they could still comeback to their groups but most of the times they will just be put on hiatus until disbandment or kickedout.
So these are the mothers of jam jam and arin, ayun and jaeul 😭❤ I love them they’re so cuteee 🥹❤
Who are they?
@@InsectBreathing their really famous and adorable kids, you can find them on the channel ‘return of the Superman’ and add their names next to it.
Arin ❤
@@InsectBreathing The Return of Superman’s kids.
One of the variety show in S.Korea.
Sunye announced her wedding November. Got married January and had her daughter in October.
That means she got pregnant around the same time she got married or shortly before.
that age gap is crazy
How is that crazy?
@@thatoneguy981613 years is crazy
@@thatoneguy9816 a 13 year age gap is pretty significant when one of the people in the relationship is still a young adult.
25 is a full blown adult tho
@@-karma-2426 So they are children then? Why don’t we make laws to stop younger women from pursuing older men then? Something they are factually known to do? Do you watch “corn”?
Sunye's marriage and pregnancy announcements were so well-received by fans. I can't remember any protests or negative comments. If there were, i guess it was only 0.0001% of the community. 😅
Also her "baby bump" is the zipper on her shorts lol. People are just too excited haha
Almost middle aged dating someone who's brain just became fully developed.. gross
And this is why I don't want to date someone who's basically a whole decade older than me. I don't want to be with someone who drags me in a SUGAR relationship
Blame both parties
@@guanluo3279one party has more experience and the other doesn’t. A middle aged person is so much more knowledgeable than someone just becoming fully developed.
@@unfortuneattic both are adults, he is older but she isn't a child, she knows what she wants and to be honest most women prefer way older men because of stability.
ahh yes let's blame men of course
.....☕️
That man’s face at the start is a jump scare
that first guy is a jumpscare
real 😭
She is so out of his league it's actually not funny 😬 Maybe he has a fantastic personality? They're still together, after all
@@raerohan4241 Uh oh looks like we have a simp! There is no such thing as being out of someones league. Looks don't matter at all, only personalities do. You must have some serious relationship trauma, you should get that checked out.
Yeah what the fuck did she see in him, no offense…he looks so old compared to her I would’ve assumed that was her dad. Peculiar innit… risked her career for him as well. He must be funny or was offering her more money than the measly chump change and crusty fan gifts she was getting as an idol
@@raerohan4241 lowkey reminds me of someone saying to their partner “ yk i stopped gping for looks when we started dating” 😭😭😭
Pre marital pregnancy is such a crazy n risky concept!!!
These idol really brave ..they did what their heart wanted to do
Felt so bad for jaeyul cause unlike his sisters he grasps the situation harder
Almost none of kpop idols married quick because they fell in love.....but bcoz of pregnant.
Taeyang and his wife, I forgot her name. Rain and her wife
Maybe they loved but hadn't another reason to get married. In our modern world children are only reason left for marriage.
They all just got married because of pregnancy:(
Obviously don't you know it's considered a disgrace for a women to get pregnant pit of wedlock
The second girl doesnt Say how much months they were pregnant, that couldve been a month, and in a month nothing shows, thats a perfectly normal body tbh
A baby can change anyone’s life so beware of your actions
I knew Yulhees' marriage would fail. I remember that they were basically living at his parents' house or the parents were living at his house. The door to their space had a window in the middle so his mom could look in on them. Super creepy! It sucks that he took her kids, but she was also very young and maybe not ready to parent alone. Most likely, tho, they just used influence to take her kids because he didn't want to support them
The amount of shotgun weddings...
Children of first two couples are quite famous..they are always on return of sueprman
Now idols can't even say they're dating, let alone telling that they're pregnant
It' actually become softer now. All this people are heroes that revealed it.
that yulhee fancam isn't a "baby bump" that's just a woman with a uterus. Every cis woman has that "bump" because that's where our reproductive organs are.
Neither men nor fans understand the fact women have bumps without babies being present. There are men and some women who don't know women have three holes in their crotches and women don't menstruate from their urethras.
Love this comment. And even if she was 4 or 6 weeks along you don't show, the baby is so dang tiny at that point
To be far you wouldn’t even know you’re pregnant at 1 month. Most women don’t find out until after 2 months pregnant. It doesn’t even show up on pregnancy tests until then.
in fact, this is not true. u can find out that you are pregnant at least one week after fertilization. of course, you often only suspect it when your period is late and it is recommended to wait at least a while before taking the test for the beta-HCG hormone to actually be well detected. but saying it doesnt show up its a lie
So now, people get married because they are pregnant. No wonder many end up with divorce because marriage is now just a duty
I agree, I think marriage is really stupid and expensive and the custody battle is messy.
Now?! Pregnancy based marriage dates back centuries, if not millennia. Never heard of shotgun weddings? Why do you think they occurred?
"now" 😂😂😂 Bro, it's been happening since people invented marriage
It's weird to see shotgun weddings continue into the 21st century. Hasn't it been going on long enough in humanity?
I wish they can all just marry when they're ready and have babies if they wish to.
Also, is it so difficult to return to activities after a baby in kpop? Their agencies need to help them. They can take a break maybe to get back in shape and then come back. Settling down is just another PHASE of life.
ikr, there was a recent group called mamadol that was made up of former idols that had become moms. but even that didn't work out, i believe they disbanded very soon after debut. it's so sad especially given that male idols can continue in their careers after having children
If you think that is young then you don’t know how old my sister was when she was married
These people getting married so young ✋🏾😭
They are having kids so young too. They are not mature enough to have children. You should not even think about having a child until you are financially stable, happy, in a good relationship that has lasted over 8 years, and own a home and car. If you don't have the money to pay for a child, a car, a house, medical bills, and their college, you do not need a child. A child is a tiny human, they are a lot of work and money, the majority of people are not prepared for that. I highly recommend fostering a child before you adopt one of have one.
@@mobstercrow7515how do u know they’re not mature enough
At that time I never realized how young they were. 😢
not the shotgun marriages
See I KNEW some of them actually live lives AND be idols! It's possible. It's too bad that fans (pretend fans) hear or suspect something & turn it into a "bad" thing & stress out the artist/idol...let them live, make mistakes, AND be able to correct them & move on 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 to all the little couples who stayed together happy🥂
It's so sad that healthy female tummy is considered pregnancy. I know all of them were pregnant fr but the way ppl suspected them looking at the state of their tummies is crazy
I feel like this is normally why you would hear like the stories of companies not only banning the idea of their idol dating.
But i always think about how especially during second gen how female idols would always warned the newer girl groups about talking to the older at male idols because I think they always knew that these dudes would pray on these women regardless of their age like people being like all 25 and 40 isn't that big of an age Gap or being a 20 year old who just debuted with someone who's been established at that point I'm pretty sure FT Island has been around for almost a decade not to mention they were a well-respected group / band and people fucking love them so like the idea of turning them down it's the same when I look back at like Dawn and HyunA.
😅 Like are you really going to sit there and try to deny these older seniors in the industry. Like I feel like most people would sit there and think about okay this can have bad repercussions and we know this for a fact because we've seen it whether we talked about idols or even acting.
All it would take is that senior sitting there and talking about what a horrible Junior you are or that you were disrespectful or whatever even if no one freaking saw it and it would ruin your and your group's reputation.
Jesus, this is such an excellent point. With the superiority culture there (hierarchy? what's the term) you're so right that a senior talking bad about you is all anyone would believe or pay attention to. You'd be cooked. You may even like them, but it can't fail to be at the back of your mind that there's no real way out of it. That's just a toxic dynamic from the start, even if you're in love with them and eager to date them. People have to be more conscious of power imbalances and only ask out people when that power imbalance is gone.
broo what are you on. yulhee and minhwan hit it off after a blind date. I didn't want to say this but I see it often, parents who got pregnant early get kids who also got pregnant early which is the same with yulhee. maybe that's why yulhee might not think its a problem she even wanted to have a next kid but minhwan says 3 kids are already enough and got a vasectomy behind her back
I'd say yulhee was very much in control of her life before she married minhwan
This reminds me the anime of Ai hoshino of her also getting pregnant❤😢
i can tell for sure these women got pregnant because the old guys didn't want to wear protection and ofc in korea a woman CAN'T tell otherwise.
they all got married because of the pregnancy, that's depressing. some ended up divorcing and don't forget they now have kids, wait till they grow and see what really happened with their parents. fr depressing
Or they’re grown adults who want to be parents quit treating these female idols like babies
Well peaple can fall in love right so I am supporting her because you can't stay alone forever ❤❤
And then id NEVER guess they were pregnant
Its also crazy how rumours say that the idols who goes on hiatus are pregnant
The importance of protection kids
Divorce is parmanant case in most of the korean marriage 😢😢😅 why divorce rate highest in Korea it means they are not understanding in their relationship 😐
see this video is the reason why i dont believe many of the idols now aren't dating each other... even the 4th generation ones who try so hard not to be seen interacting with each other, i can bet many of them would be dating bc how can they not 😭 all that attractiveness cant go to waste
Only 2 members of twice are single lmao
Is Yulhee the mother of Jaeyul, Arin and Ahyun? The dad seems familiar and the amount of kids they had are the same as the 3 kids parents and Arin and Ahyun are twins.
@@blushrul5497 yes she is
I cant believe she said “she got married at just 22” girlll in my culture girls get lttr married 17 or 18 and when youre above 24 youre considered too old , and yall call 22 too early😭😭
That must be a culture shock to hear. There is a valid point that someone is too young to really be having any agency when they're 17 or 18, it's too young to marry, especially for a woman when it's so common for many cultures to view women as someone to be controlled rather than respected. Even 20 or 22, your life experience is not very broad and your brain isn't fully developed. If anything, it's a disservice to any children you have right away since you haven't had enough time to learn how to control your own emotions and get enough education to learn how to raise children in a peaceful manner.
17 or 18 is wild. I don't know where you're from but that culture seems very controlling over women. And that's not a thing to brag about.
@@milli3377no girls want to get married at that age and its illegal to force someone to get married so yeah girls choose to get married at 17 or 18 even my own father said you can get married at 18 but i dont want that its too early
@@alexia3552nahh girls can decide if they want to get married our parents do not even force us they want to get married at that age but i think its too early cause im 15 and i cant even cook😭
@@Noxchi_ya1OMGGG. NOXCHI???ME TOOO
More content like this and ill keep watching
Oh! So these are the parents of those kids (the two twin girls and their older brother) that a lot of idols hang out with in videos. Wow.
Wow this is first time I am seeing something like this 😂 , Nice edit + song choice ☺
The second set of parents hit me hard when I realized who they were because I've been watching the show their kids are on and just found out about the divorce
I wish blessings and happiness for the parents and children as it can't be easy dealing with all that
That’s why you should always wear protection 🦾🛡️
Condoms are only 70% effective. My baby cousin was an accident and her parents used protection. Her dumb mother was not on birth control either. Condoms do not protect at all.
@@mobstercrow7515Condoms are actually 98% effective and also protect against STD’s, the reason why Koreans don’t use them is because the men often pressure the women not to because they are misogynistic a holes.
It is her private life and not anybody’s business.She has a right to her life
When a weddings rushed it’s usually always because someone got pregnant 💀
Down here in the south it happened alllll the time
The first one is JamJam's mommy ❤ I love her
IT'S SO GOOD I'M GAGGED
This is dangerous
What is?
??
Performing while pregnant?
@@maliam_ at one month???😭
@@kristiinakorve451 That's what I'm asking
I was there for Sunye. WG was my first gg and she was was 1 one of my biases. But the moment i knew she was getting married, i knew her idol career was getting axed. She was one of those who trained the longest,like 7 years or so, was the leader and the main vocals... I actually was regretting for her career.
I love love. 😊 I wish all of the couples would have lasted. I hope they are all happy no matter what.✨️
Is protection not a thing in korea💀
I'm sayingggg 😭
You realise there isn't any form of protection that's 100% effective? You're only seeing the outlier cases. There definitely are other idols engaging in extramarital relations and not knocking someone up/getting knocked up. Not exactly a secret
Dude this is extremely rare oh my god you saw one video of kpop idol pregnancies and assumed that every kpop idol is getting pregnant
my mouth just kept dropping with the second woman, whatttttt
Really suit her voice i love it
You mean young women are meeting young men are having babies? Im shocked I tell you. 😂
lmfao
Young men? Those men are middle-aged lmao. The first guy looks so old.😂
Male r lucky. They don't get pregnant. 😼
But they have to serve mandatory military service and probably risk developing PTSD or losing their leg
@@jennyhateseverything So? They aren't getting any blame for any of these. Neither will they lose their career.
They aren't getting caught in a marriage scandal and get around with many girls without fans knowing.
@@Vor567tezyes males are lucky because of patriarchy
I think a lot of the idols who are on breaks or go on them are actually pregnant
This is sad. They were all so young and jumped into marriage. Like we're they even really ready?? And the fact that they had given up their careers while the guy continues his... I hate that. I hate when we're expected to give up our careers but they can continue theirs. Being a woman/mom fucking sucks.
I'm honestly glad that guy took the kids. It's usually always the woman who has to give up everything and have to take custody. Makes me heart warm seeing the man doing it instead, for once lol.
Omg the song like this by wonder girls had too much jumping so its dangerous for pregnant women
She wasn't pregnant during the like this promotion era
Activity is good for pregnant women. They can do most of the stuff they did before
But it’s great seeing them in the return of superman😁 there kids are adorable 🥰
I find it very funny that there’s a leap to get married before the pregnancy is announced or discovered- the idea that South Korean society (and much of the rest of the world) is so adamant on marriage before childbearing that it essentially becomes a quick fix against ridicule.
As if leaping haphazardly into a marriage is better for the future of a child and family than taking time to truly think/work things out.
Does anyone know why yulhee’s ex husband has full custody? I watched clips of their show and they both looked really involved so I’m confused.
Yulhee gave up on custody of her kids to ensure they live in a good environment. She didn't have a stable income, and Korean law is kind of harsh on women. Their kids also live with Minhwan's family before, and he has a stable income to provide for their kids. So I guess minhwan the better choice for the kids but they still meet yulhee just not often.
Try watch return of Superman minhwan
Just my POV;
Honestly I'm feeling sad for yulhee. Bc she didn't get many chance on entertainment anymore after they get married and their divorce made her image worsen.
But minhwan still get appearance offer after their divorced
This is why people said law in Korea didn't side with women. Sadly
@@Yejunniebusshuuu damn
@@Yejunniebusshuuuthat's how it's been for most people for most of history. Men usually get/got custody of the kids because of finances.
@@sortaamy3003that’s not the case for ALL countries. In my country, women tend to get custody because moms usually have stronger bonds with their child and usually are the main caretaker of their child. Men who don’t get the custody have to pay a sum of allowances every month for the child, and vice versa
The west usually side with mom and dad has to pay, but in some Asian countries are not like that, the kids actually goes to who can support them better financially.
Wow, that's crazy 😲😅
Sadly, just a short marriage 😮
This Episode is making for Gu Ran and Jiang Jia
Oshi no Ko Episode 1 be like:
Wait minhwan divorced???
I thought they live happily forever...
I watch their tv series before, they look so happy together 😮😮😮
Her mother-in-law is abit of the cause.. the (ex) couple seems to be in a good term
Yes they did
He is with the children
@chewlsyy I don't think it was the mother in law. Yulhee loved her MIL and appreciated the help she got when Minhwan was in the military. I believe their divorce was because Minhwan was always busy with concerts and promoting with FTIsland leaving Yulhee alone with their kids. She expressed a few times on her youtube vlogs that she felt lonely without him there with her. She was in her early 20s raising a toddler and twin babies by herself. That stress tore her and their marriage apart.
@@chewlsyyno, actually his mom is the problem! her mother in law!
@@lena_nguyen17no! actually the mother in law is indeed the problem! she tells the mom what to do and not to do, what her kids should eat and not eat.. and also another problem is minhwan wants a new baby, but his ex-wife doesn't for the being, because they already have 3, who's still young.. anout the swcond one i might be wrong because i got that information from other person who also wasn't sure of..
Sounds crazy
Bruh how expensive are condoms/birth control? But then again, these people have the money to get married on such short notice, take care of the baby, and then divorce like it’s a dating simulator you see in ads
"At just 24"? Thats a good age
We should put Hyunjin cause his pregnant pose bruh- 😂
And then we had our cute JamJam ^^
Don't you dare to Mock Oshi no Ko after this
The first couple is Jam Jam's parents!!
Não é só no pop é a cultura toda
i love yulhee
Ey.. its jamjam's parents!! I think its good decision for both that they keep the baby and look they're both lucky to have jam jam in their lives.
I thought idols were not allowed to be in a relationship of any kind much less be allowed to have kids 🍼👶🏻 ???
Its sad seeing the age gap and the fact that they get married soon after pregnancy
Oh girl, you served the truth
20???? Woman, where is your life?????
In other words, its sad that she got the short end of the stick.
She can do whatever she wants
@@pinksstunnagirlyeah, I'm pretty sure she's regretting now.
@@pinksstunnagirl not when you gave up YOUR literal life desire to play wife to a ninja who divorced you and you can't keep your kids because you have no job. And then you have to look for a job, but you're not qualified because you spent your entire childhood being an idol, therefore have to go back to school and then complete it after a decade, but then can't get a life partner because of societal baggage of outside children. .. let's not forget that this is SK, she has to start at the complete bottom to make it. Again.....
That's why I asked if she has even lived. Or even had her desired fulfilled. And then y'all question why some women are zombies in their marriage 🙂
@@donttalk372 it’s not that she can’t keep her kids. The two parents are still close with each other and decided it was best for the kids to stay with him since he already had his own place and the kids grew up in that house. She still sees them often and is living pretty happily now.
@@jinnxx2729 All people ever hear is “Have kids or you’ll regret it” oh “they had kids I bet they regret that” how about you keep quiet about other’s lives and live your own?
I hope this changed now.
It's ok to still be active after giving birth.
The female idols can just ask for a break when their pregnant just like how any normal jobs are, I think it's by law to give women maternity break.
I mean being pregnant and becoming a mother doesn't necessarily mean your lesser of an idol.
Night Stand Generation sheesh lol