But... The Dutch don't learn an American accent? We don't even focus at accents very much (to my great annoyance) but if we do then they try to teach us the Brittish version. Dutch kids watch a lot of American shows however, causing them to pick up an American accent faster...
It used to always urk me that in windows you would have the choice between English and British English instead of English and American English. In school we learned English and not American English. We learned colour instead of color, Civilisation instead of Civilization, grey instead of gray, lift instead of elevator, etc. But because most of the TV programmes (instead of programs) we see are from the US we pick up bad habbits.
@@RekaCath These days it is often English (US) and English (UK). The stuff I meant was some 10+ years ago. I learned most of my English behind the computer playing adventure games (leisure suit Larry, police quest and kings quest) with the dictionary next to the keyboard. Didn't have English in school (basisschool) yet.
the girl "They (Dutch) are just very blunt and upfront - yeah - but not in an english way".....Since when are the english people direct? They talk soooo increcredibly indirect and are not upfront nor direct
Yeah I strongly dislike it too! I'm dutch and I find it hard to be around people who are so polite that I have no clue what they reallly think/feel about things. It's like I'm talking to a bunch of actors who play a role and I have to figure out what the actor is really like themselves. You can not instantly know what a person is like, so it will simply result in that you have to get to know people that you would just dislike from the moment you met them if they were really themselvse. It makes it way harder to find likeminded people, since you have to figure out first what teir personality is like under that layer of politeness. Statistically this makes you end up with less people you actually like underneath their exterior...
The British can be very rude in their own way. It's just a matter of phrasing. They might say something like "well, I agree with the concept of your suggestion". Meaning they don't agree with the suggestion itself at all. It's like they're stuck in that Victorian/Edwardian era of being polite even while calling someone's mother a cheap sleazy whore. Compare "You, sir, are the son of a thousand fathers" to "smerig hoerenjong".
Once in London a homeless guy confronted me asking for money. I refused politely and he became so angry: ”You’re in my country! You should blablabla go back blabla” like wtf dude. Atleast I’m contributing to your country in comparison to you parasitising on yours. So they can be very direct, or he was just an asshole. Or both
In my experience Dutch students tend to be 'rude' to their friends. It is understood as teasing among friends and shows acceptance in the group. When you are used to that way of interacting you don't get insulted that easily and don't take things too seriously. Among strangers though, it is not common nor accepted to crack rude jokes.
@Pascal - freedom of speech and being critical is not what I meant with 'rude'. It is the way some Dutch people interact with friends. You know, use insulting nicknames, rude language and laugh at eachother. They wouldn't do that to strangers, but if you're part of the inner circle there's a nickname for you too. Ofcourse this is a generalisation, and it's not only Dutch students who do this. But since they interviewed exchange students, they might have experienced this behaviour. The combination of familiarity on the one hand and reservedness on the other probably confuses some cultures.
completely true, we tend to use this kind of humor to connect to people. With our culture we tend to keep some distance in a conversation. But when doing this a conversation might end up being more relaxed and open! Older people sometimes do it in a "loving way" , saying like "Aren't you old enough to do it for yourself?!" will actually mean that you grew up real fast . And will always have a sweet look in their eyes. We talk with our faces allot so like the emotions we express mean more then what we actually say. The ones that do this to complete strangers we do consider rude. BIG BIG culture shock to many! Please keep in mind we might even mean something so nice!
Yea "being rude" to friends generally means we're comfortable with them and it's kind of a form of bonding. But at the same time I'll be a lot more formal and polite with strangers or people I don't know that well yet.
Yeah the better friends you are the more you insult eachother in a funny way, we spend a lot less time complimenting eachother, we think that's embarrassing so we make fun and laugh. A friend and i had a reputation in a certain place for fighting all the time, when we found out we were so surprised, it was all banter and we were laughing! Even the gifts from Sinterklaas for kids are packed with a character assassination poem attached to it. even the gift doesn't matter as much as the good joke in the poem you can make about it. like if you make a lot of spelling errors you might get typex or an eraser. I grew up dutch of course but I think the people usually have good intentions, even "rice eater"is not bad because we like rice and exotic foods.
In another video an American student in Amsterdam lost her way to the university and asked directions on her map to an old Dutch man. An old man said to her :"if you are a university student and cannot read maps, how can you be inteligent enough to finish university?" He smiled and wanted to help her, but she started crying because she was hurt. The old man just made a joke of it, but yeah, Dutch humour...
These are actually meant to be so sweet and uplifting like a "you can do it". Its a bit of a common joke in Holland! But i totally understand this is a huge culture shock!
Only tip I have for people is to just go along with it and just tease them back. We tease each other to show that we're comfortable with eachother. Nothing tells someone better that you're comfortable with them than knowing you can make fun of them without consequences. If people tease you, it's a compliment. Tease them back.
When the joke is racial however, there are no comebacks on an equal level. Therefore, either you clap back at a level thats way too rude for what he teased you for, or way too mild. For example, dutch guy says "haha, thats because you squint eyes cant see" you cannot clap back with something "round eyes" and you'd simply be rude if you replied with something truly rude like "fuck you" or "eat shit."
@@alexzhao3222 But why can't you come back with something like round eyes? If you use it creatively, it would be even better, because it's uncommon. And aren't there enough other dutch stereotypes? I'm fairly short for a dutch guy, so I often go for jokes about length. It really doesn't matter, most people can take it if you're friends. But indeed, things as 'fuck you' are often interpreted as an insult. The way you say it means a lot, but those short things leave very few things to interpret.
Depends on if it's with friends or not. Against good Asian or African friends I don't see why you can't make racial jokes, because it's a joke and not serious. In turn they can do the same to me. Against random strangers however it's obviously unacceptable
@@alexzhao3222 You can say 'fuck you' for sure to your friends if you do it with a smile. If they are angry after being insulted back, they aren't friends
We actually do learn British English in school. Well at least I did and I heard that from many other people as well. Our English teacher always corrected us when we said things to American. But I think in many countries you cannot prevent people have a bit of both. I was told once by a friend from the US that we Dutch have a mix of American and British English. I think every country has something others don't really like or see as rude while it's normal for the people who live there.
everybody learned british english at school. but because everything is american english around us we tend to speak more american english than real english
Things discussed in this video are not examples of Dutch humor, but examples of Dutch directness. Some girl thinks the US accent is better than your UK accent? She's gonna tell you that to your face (btw, we are not taught a certain accent). Someone thinks you have a Spanish accent? Well yeah dude, you do and someone will tell you. That's not a joke or humor, it's just what someone thinks.
@the forbidden girl The difference is that we say mostly the same things (although we do adres certain things that other cultures probably wouldn’t) but we don’t sugercoat it like the British for example. Like why tf would you say: im in between jobs. Just say you are jobless, it is not that hard
@@davidderuiter726 Laat me even iets uitleggen. Bob Hans, hierboven, heeft alle kenmerken van een Russische troll. Dat wil zeggen, hij heeft geen avatar, geen content, geen video's, geen beschrijving, en een Amerikaanse voornaam (Bob) en een Nederlandse voornaam (Hans.) Niemand heet natuurlijk Bob Hans. Zeker de Aziaten niet, zie je het al voor je? En het is ook een hele gekke nickname. Nu is het belangrijk om te weten dat de Russen al een tijdje proberen om ruzie te maken met mensen in de comments, zodat ze de politieke stromingen kunnen beïnvloeden. Ze proberen dan Nederlands over te komen. Een Rus heeft geen flauw idee dat 'Bob Hans' niet Nederlands klinkt. 'Hans' kan best een achternaam zijn, vinden zij. Weten zij veel...het klinkt Nederlands voor hen. Nu zegt deze 'Bob Hans' dat hij ook vaak rijst-eter genoemd wordt. Hij laat daarmee zien dat hij Aziaat is, want het is een racistische opmerking richting Aziaten. Je noemt een Nederlander ook geen broodjesvreter..het feit dat er 'rijst' in de naam zit, laat zien dat het een opmerking is richting Aziaten. Hij zegt; 'Dan zeg ik altijd terug; nou..dat is omdat het Nederlandse eten vies is." Hij is dus niet gewend aan Nederlands eten, zegt hij. Hij vind het vies, daarom eet hij rijst. Nederlanders eten vaak Nederlands eten (en rijst, kan natuurlijk ook) maar Aziaten eten vaker rijst en worden daarom (uit racisme) rijst-vreters genoemd. Nog één keer op een rijtje; 'Bob Hans, de Aziaat met twee vreemde voornamen, zegt dat hij rijst eet, omdat hij de Nederlandse keuken zo goor vind.' De naam klopt van geen kanten, want Nederlanders (of Aziaten) heten *geen* Bob Hans. Maar dat weten Russen niet...die ruzie willen maken in de comments. Daarom neemt Hans de moeite niet om Nederlands met ons te praten (dat spreken de Russen niet, alleen Google Translate) en maakt hij zelfs foutjes in zijn Engels met 'because your food are horrible" (terwijl het natuurlijk *is* horrible moet zijn.) Snap je me, David?
Dutch directness is often misunderstood as rudeness. People in the Netherlands just say what they think because we are free to do so. If you feel offended by it, tough luck. In the Netherlands, we are free to express our thoughts and opinions and we often use humour to express it. By experiencing it and not taking it too seriously you will develop a shield against it, you toughen up. What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.
@@ross6753 I rather be misunderstood for being rude than being hypocritical. I rather have my friends tell me my new outfit looks terrible on me than them telling me it looks great whilst talking behind my back about how terrible it actually looks. By being 'rude' we are doing you a favour.
@@ross6753Don't you have your reasoning the wrong way around here? Shouldn't it be: If I tell you your suit doesn't suit you, I am telling you the truth (if it doesn't suit you). If I tell you your suit does suit you, I am lying (if it doesn't suit you).
@@ross6753 Sorry to hear that you had to experience that. However, most Dutch people are not like that. I did not say telling the truth is the same thing as being rude. I merely suggest that telling the truth can be perceived as being rude, without having the intention of being rude to somebody. If I say I think your suit doesn't suit you (and let's assume it really doesn't), I tell you the truth. However, you can perceive that as rudeness because you thought it did suit you. The intention of my message was not to be rude or to insult you but to tell you the truth and give you my honest opinion. I can't help it that you will be offended by me telling what I think. But that is the point I am making: The sender of the message cannot know beforehand whether his/her message will be offending the receiver. If the sender of the message has to constantly keep in mind that his/her message may offend the receiver, the sender of the message would constantly be in fear for what he/she says: in fear of offending somebody. If the sender of the message always is in fear of offending somebody, he/she cannot speak freely anymore.
just tease them back man. My sport is shooting rifles competitively and i get called a school shooter sometimes. "Oh, when you finally go through with shooting up the school, bring me a gun too, im suicidal anyway so i might as well join and go out with a bang" kinda shit. The dude that said this exact thing actually tried to kill himself once by train, so every time a train passes we just say " well shit, now you gotta wait for the next one. Anyone got the train plan? You can get at least 5 minutes late, dutch railways amirite?" We all get along and find it funny, although to an outsider this might be very offensive
@@DutchNewbJr Nee dat is het juist, als je bevriend bent met elkaar kun je dit soort grapjes maken, dat doen we allemaal. Zelfmoord, kanker, niet te geloven dat ik dit, wat veel minder erg is, in hetzelfde rijtje moet stoppen, en racisme zijn van die onderwerpen waar je dan grapjes over kunt maken, tenzij iemand zijn of haar grenzen aangeeft.
@@wilhelmdietz4023 grapjes als deze worden gemaakt maar niet tegen de persoon die suicidaal is geweest, of grapjes over kanker terwijl je vriend het heeft of had. Dat gaat tever. Deze grapjes worden wel gemaakt naar vrienden die bijv niks met die 2 ziektes te maken hebben en kerngezond zijn
I'm Dutch and i think the rudeness often comes from a place of insecurity. Not always, but often. Especially young people often use it to hide behind. I don't mind directness, but being overly rude is just pathetic imo.
@Lah Doh Tun well i think that OP’s statement might just be a bit misleading. We do have manners, and are not really that rude (for example when eating and other things most people will be polite and stuff) it is just that unlike the British and Americans we don’t like to sugarcoat stuff. I mean if you are jobless just say you are jobless, if someone smells tell them at least then they know and can fix it. But that is just different cultures i geus...
We as Dutch people just grow up with the fact there is no real line you can cross when it comes to humour. Nothing is off limits when it's a joke because that's our way of talking about complicated issues. As long as it's a joke and you're not deliberately trying to hurt someone with a sexist or racist remark but use it as a way to comment on societal issues then I think it's a great way to get people into a more progressive mindset. And usually the jokes become harsher and more blunt the better we know someone. It just shows you like and trust each other as a form of endearment
So, Dutch rude humor is like throwing shade & you have to be ready for the insults by throwing them back like a boomerang whilst attempting to shield from the jokes.
I wouldn't think of it being racist. In general I would say, we (the dutch) don't take ourselves to seriousely, so we don't take people with other nationalities as serious aswell. I understand people think of the dutch as rude. Life is seriousely enough, so don't take it to serious. And If you can make jokes about someone and take it when they make jokes about you, it's fine. Just don't cross any boundaries of decency.
The more direct the jokes are, the more honest the person who makes them is regarded. Which is probably why people come to like it. Also, we Dutchies only joke around with people we like.
@@lepetitchat123 i would because by looking at your response i can already tell you are one of those butthurt, over-sensitive people, and thus i would never befriend you
Well, ... Voxweb, Let's hear you crack a joke in Dutch. I'm sure all the jokes been spoken of here were made in English, a second language to the Dutch. The jokes may have sounded harsh but all the interviewed students made clear they understood it to be a joke.
@@IAmHoTSHoTzz Spot on! Best non-native English speaking country... Which still makes it a second language ! Dutch people reckon their English smooth asf, but in reality it tends to be quite difficult to be even nearly as articulate as they would be in their native tongue.
@@BathtubSkyPirate 'make that the cat wise' You do realise that is only a saying in Dutch right? also we are in fact #1 www.europelanguagejobs.com/blog/english-who-speaks-it-best.php
I always make rude jokes to friends and people i love because they understand my humor (whether it is funny or not) .. to strangers though i am always very polite and not that direct
Indeed, the Dutch are generally very unmannered when it comes to making our bloody jokes. Also we are quite unaware of it at the same time. Probably because we all of have developed some sort of elephant skin to it by now.
I was an expat there for around 5 years . Here is my take - The Dutch are by far some of the nastiest people, I have ever encountered in Europe. They pride themselves in their so called "Dutch Directness", which they feel, makes the entitled to - be rude for no reason whatsoever (Except when you are tourist with money). Bad upbringing I guess. They claim to be extremely openminded, when in fact the reality is quite far from it, as there is quite a high level of xenophobic tendencies among the people. They seem to have a derogatory outlook to anything non - Dutch, except when it's German. I think the Dutch get too many underserving positive stereotypes, particularly by tourists who wear a cap and walk around Amsterdam, thinking they have got to know an entire country within a span of 3 - 4 days.
Dutch are blunt. They do not mince words. They give their opinion. If they do not like you, they say it to your face. If they like you, they are very loyal. My favorite comedian is Ande van Duin. He is very kind. He is the Dutch Mr Bean
Andre can Duin humour is universial . I like him as well. Nowadays Dutch are kind of humourless....and just mean... intelligent humour is less and less day by day.
Dutch are not loyal at all man haha. Im dutch myself. I agree that they if they dont like you they will show it in their behaviour but will not say it. But saying that the dutch are loyal, thats just bullshit 😂
@@MsMesem witty that is what Andre van duin is :) We need wittiness in our lives. If you know the two Ronnie's (British comedians) that is kind of the style of Andre.
We Dutch people don’t see it as rude because we all know they’re meant as jokes, and we’re not crybabies who get offended already if someone says “fuck u”. Or at least that’s my opinion
NOTE: It's important to know DUTCH people also make cynical jokes about themselves or other Dutch people or even about Dutch stereotypes. Please don't preceive this as rude, it'snot meant to be rude (in the most cases) And if it is, you shurely will know it is.@ 1:29 This i hear a lot, they are very upfront thats kinda rude.......... If someone is giving you their honest opinion or answer, for the live of me, HOW CAN THAT BE RUDE? if you don't wanna know the answer to your question just don't ask. We ask questions because we are curious and wanna know about you.
I love how the Dutch always try to excuse racism and rudeness with "we're just really blunt" and its "more effective". How is calling someona a rice eater effective lol?
obv it's not okay with someone you just recently met, but like my best friend for over 10 years is asian and he always jokes around saying shit like "Go colonize something" and I just tell him to go eat a dog. it's just how we are with people close to us but straight up rude towards strangers
I am Dutch and pretty sure I do not know anyone who thinks calling someone a rice-eater is funny. At worse people think it factually true at best they will look oddly upon it. I do not believe any of these are jokes either. Maybe "humor" in the form of teasing, but not jokes.
What’s wrong with names that are stereotypical like rice eater? Asians eat rice, fact. What’s wrong with rice? I don’t feel offended at al if people call me a cheese head.. I think people shouldn’t take themselves or others too serious.
@@tuyn8403I am not sure what you are asking these questions. However the first question. It would depend on the situation. As I said, it could be used as teasing. But often it's used as a racist slur. Intentions behind words are important. In those cases, I believe it to be wrong. We also really do not get to decide if people should be offended or take things more or less serious. The only thing we get to decide is how much we are willing to care about those feelings. So your opinion whatever people should be offended or should take things less serious is pretty much useless. They are offended and take it seriously.
@@tuyn8403 - Indeed, I greet my Italian friend with: Hey ouwe spaghettislurper (Spaghettisucker) and he replies with: Hey Kaaskop (Cheesehead). We don't see the problem. But I would never say that to an unformiliar italian guy. It's all about context.
It isn't a problem at all, they just are more direct and don't really care about these things. I'm portuguese and a friend teases me really often about how I should "return the gold" (I live in Brazil, which was colonized by Portugal). It's ok and funny for him to tell me things as that or call me "bacalhau" (cod, traditional portuguese food). Although, it is definitely gonna be offensive if someone I don't even talk to tells me to go back to my country and to return the gold. What really matters is the proximity you have with that person and the intention with which it was said.
had je anders verwacht ? amerikanen hebben overal wat mee , maar met Haloween als mexicaantje verkleed gaan is weer geen probleem ...hypocriet volk , als er ergens racisme is dan is het wel daar ...en noemt zichzelf het land van vrijheid en mogelijkheden voor iedereen ... lol ...
@@DouweEgbert Het ironische is dat de mensen die zogenaamd tegen racisme zijn (Dit zijn dan de sjw's waar ik over praat) creeren juist meer racisme. Door bijvoorbeeld niet naar bewijs te kijken of "safezones" te creeren want in principe gewoon apartheid is. Amerika is een achterste voren land waar je alleen maar gelukig kan zijn als je geld hebt.
Überhaupt iedereen in dat filmpje was zwak behalve die Duitser, echt waar joh voor hoe Amerika in elkaar steekt zijn ze mentaal erg erg zwak. Maar een uitzondering die Zuid-Koreaan een rijst eter noemen is gewoon racisme en niks grappigs aan.
Altough i do agree with some points made in this video, some of the arguments are just generalizing everyone in The Netherlands, which i find highly doubtable
@VOID Tourists in general are usually a 'problem' I mean you go to another culture for your own pleasure so they usually don't try to fit in and can be quite rude because of it. They think of it as holiday whilst the rest is just going through a regular day.
Rice-eater? x'D Rijsteter? Can't say I've heard that one before. I did use bamboo-hoofd (Bamboo-head) once to a Chinese fellow. :? Though Spleetoog "Split-eye" was more popular in my youth. And Pinda (peanut) to an Indonesian friend. My dutch mates are fellow "Kaaskop(pen)" ; "cheese-head(s)". Germans are "Mof(fen)" , I think the equivalent is "Kraut(s) but unrelated. French people are "Kikkers" (frogs)... Ehr. There's probably more but these are all those I use(d). That's just the ethnic slurs though. I call my friends Tuig, Klootviool, Oelewapper, Muts, Mafkees, Bastaard, and many more. They mean "rabble", "scrotum-viola" and ... uh.. No idea what the literal translation of Oelewapper is, but I say it after they do something stupid. So its calling someone an idiot I guess. I guess it's different from person to person but I would never use the above terms to anyone I didn't like. Messing with your friends is normal everywhere and you rib each-other on superficial stuff... Ethnicity falls under that category for me as long as it is around people that I know well enough to trust they won't mind and do it back. I could not be friends with people that couldn't take it. That's an immediate never-more-than-acquaintance-zone for me, after an apology. I'm polite after all. :) 1:30 And LOL xD The brits think they're upfront. That's the funniest joke in this entire video.
0:36 I think I speak for most Dutch people when I say that the American accent sounds awful and we tend to learn British English in high school (at least I did). I've never heard any Dutch person speak English in an American accent, we speak with a Dutch accent because, you know, we're Dutch and not American..
I find this statement curious. What exactly is an "American accent"? I can travel to parts of my own country and not understand people because of their thick accent. We have many regional accents.
It not always WHAT you say but HOW you say it...I have a very sarcastic sense of humor and people I deal with tell me that I can say things that, when someone else would say that, it would be rude or offensive. But they say that with my expression and grin on my face it is humorous and appreciated. Of course I also know where to draw the line.....😄
I'm Spanish and we also make jokes like those. The Mediterranean character doesn't take life seriously too. So I wouldn't be offended by cute Dutchies teasing us. I found them lovely and loyal people. They're honest in a good way. I adore them. 😉
The girl in the vid is lying. It is inconceivable that a Dutch person calls an Asian "Rice eater" it's not a thing, "Slit eyes" (Spleet oog) I can believe. The term "Rice eater" maybe comes from American pop culture, but the Dutch would prefer "Slid eyes" over "Rice eater" every day of the week. Just an observation.
I speak Dutch ofcourse with an accent and not totally correctly even after learning in total 5 years even in Antwerpen. There i started to hate The Netherlands and Belgium and the locals. Very big rasists and talk in English even when i am talking in their stupid language...Never had that type of experiance in other countries and i am travelling a lot! Have to make a special channel to advice people who have to deal with them like i do for 9 years and to better do something else in life!
@@oz7515 Fresh example from my last holiday last week - was talking in german with germans and they answered in german...same age of people, two diffeeent couples trying to answer in english and even something between portuguese /spanish 🤔😂Even the germans were joking about and with them. Don't like them as well...Sorry but the mentality of BE and NL is not ok at all, just a big "commercial" how open minded they are etc but in reality we see only two faced...
I love the Dutch.. A large part of my ancestry helped found New Netherlands (NYC and nearby up the Hudson Valley to Albany).. N in Mt experience traveling all over Dutch people have always been so nice to me. And I love how they're hilariously blunt, it's refreshing. Actions speak louder than words. They may say some things that in today's world people get 'canceled' for but they're overall such a nice people and thar shines through in their actions. I love that my cities' flag is basically a Dutch flag w a symbol/crest in the middle
The American saying we make jokes about race/ethnicity is a little off. We make fun of nationalities, especially if you're German or Belgian. The general rule is, once one person starts, you can return the favor.
We don't learn American English in school. It is most definately British English that is tought. I remember my teacher saying when we used Amercan words she would say de British version and that she doesn't teach American English. She would actualy mark it in a test or something if you made that mistake. The thing is we don't watch that much English television on tv but we do watch all kind of American shows and movies so we tend to pick up "bad habbits" and use the American accent.
Think it really depends on the person and how good you know them. Like I make a lot of fun of myself and always call my brother ginger, but he finds it very funny and he also makes a lot of "no soul" jokes.
rick frenay De comment gaat niet over aanpassen maar over hoe ik over het algemeen over de Nederlandse ‘attitude’ denk. Maar toch grappig dat jij dat zegt, ik ben in Nederland opgegroeid en ben een groot voorbeeld van aanpassingsvermogen. Ook reis ik de hele wereld over en zie hoeveel Nederlanders die in het buitenland wonen juist denken zich niet aan te moeten passen en hun mentaliteit ongegeneerd door iedereen zijn strot douwt. Met ‘wij zijn direct en eerlijk’ kom je niet weg, je kan namelijk beide zijn zonder onbeleefd te zijn.
We do in fact make blunt statements about each other... we do it about ourselves as well. Like, I'm a redhead, sometimes people say like "What's your name again, I forgot" and I just say "Just call me that red haired dude" or whatever. We're not beating around the bush, take a joke.
Rofl ... that German guy called us rude. They were rude to us for 5 years and you don't hear us complaining about that :) :) (Sorry could let that one slide)
They dont teach American English at all, it is all Cambridge English taught at schools. It is true that Dutch people tend to speak more American English due to all the TV shows broadcasted after 8 PM in the Netherlands. And the humor differs where you're from, city humor and humor from people from villages vary a lot. While it also can differ among groups. Yet it can quickly be seen as rude which is true, but most people feel when it is okay to use and when not.
No, Frisian is only an official language inside the province of Frisia. Not in the rest of the Netherlands. So, you cannot say it is "the second language of the Netherlands (or even worse, Holland).
Within the Netherlands we also make fun of eachother about their place of birth, like people in the northeast all being farmers and Limburgers basically being Belgian, so I don't really think it's a racial thing (maybe partly, but most of us don't mean it as a racist remark).
Idk where that guy or girl went to school but we learn mainly British English in the Netherlands with attention to the differences between American and British English lol
We are not blunt and rude .... we are direct, we tell you what we think ..... british people tend to not tell you what they think but talk around it ..... I think that is rude ..... the directness is not to offend but to give you the opportunity to do whatever you want to do with that remark are advice ..... I think it is an refreshing and an honest way of communication
Have you ever thought that we have heard the same "directness" like one hundred times? It's not even offensive, is annoying and boring. The problem with stereotypes is there're not so many, and everybody use the same to make the "funny" joke. After a few times, you find it stupid, not even offensive
Wait, 2 people said it was offensive of the 5 you showed, you interviewed even more probably, but just showed the best, and now the Dutch humor is rude? How did you come to that conclusion?
Dude i love our dutch humour, like i am probably a very good example of a dutch guy who is very blunt and offensive Just for Jokes, no i'm not racist and no I do not mean any of it, i just love to tease Friends and fool about
Im dutch, And i 100% agree with the fact that we make rude jokes on each other here in the Netherlands among friends. its just to tease each other we never take each other seriously here thats the way we are😉
I remember one random Dutch lady shouted at me in an Albert heijn because she was offended that I was buying bottled water since Holland has very clean tap water and at the time I was taken a back and I actually didn't buy the water in the end 😂
Dutch people are very direct, and sometimes it comes off as rude, but that isnt the intention at all. The same with comedy. We dont wiggle around an opinion or topoic but say it as it is, and especially americans arent used to that.
I've never heard American English being taught in schools, the standard is British. My little sister had the word 'sweets' in her textbook and not 'candy'
Well this is quite rude as well. Fawlty Towers with some guests from Germany: ua-cam.com/video/yfl6Lu3xQW0/v-deo.html Well we do our part as well with roasting people.
That British girl has some very bad experience. At my high school we only learned how to spell and talk the British way. And isn't it one giant stereotype that humanity loves the British accent? Either way, I agree that the Dutch humour can sound rude, but it's supposed to be humorous. Me and my friends call each other 'bitch' and 'fag' all the time. Because... we literally are haha (at times... mostly... sorta kinda...)
We actually learn British English in school just cus most Dutch people have an american-ish accent (they think at least. most dutch people have a horrible english accent) from watching american tv and movies doesnt mean we dont get thaught British English
I was always perplexed why a Dutch friend of a friend did not find my favourite comedy from the UK "Nighty night" funny - it's the epitome of Dutch humour!
When I was in America everyone said anywhere: "how are you!". I got crazy because they did not wait for an answer and it does not interest them. haha i'm sorry for this
Sterre van Eldijk. "How are you" or "How are you doing" are just a way of greeting a person. We don't expect an entire story about what is going on in your life, just a quick " I'm fine, how are you?" is enough....
@@atheistje835Don't generalize, yes there are a lot of ignorant Americans but every country has those. Nederland has its share of that type of people too. With a statement you made I would suggest that you look in a mirror to see one....!
Ladies and gentlemen, let me tell ya, if you find our humour rude, you will CERTAINLY know when we are trying to insult you. If we want to be rude, we are very very very rude.
i always wonder about humor in different cultures i'm Dutch, but i would like to heart examples how plp form abroad understand dutch humor how the would go about the same thing where is it differents, ?or even thegeneral feeling of dutch being blut and upfront i like to see examples.,
But... The Dutch don't learn an American accent? We don't even focus at accents very much (to my great annoyance) but if we do then they try to teach us the Brittish version. Dutch kids watch a lot of American shows however, causing them to pick up an American accent faster...
It used to always urk me that in windows you would have the choice between English and British English instead of English and American English. In school we learned English and not American English. We learned colour instead of color, Civilisation instead of Civilization, grey instead of gray, lift instead of elevator, etc. But because most of the TV programmes (instead of programs) we see are from the US we pick up bad habbits.
@@ehekkert I agree, which is why my English us a hot mess right now...
But don't pc's give the option English and English (US)
@@RekaCath These days it is often English (US) and English (UK). The stuff I meant was some 10+ years ago.
I learned most of my English behind the computer playing adventure games (leisure suit Larry, police quest and kings quest) with the dictionary next to the keyboard. Didn't have English in school (basisschool) yet.
We had British English in school, which I think is a nicer spelling because it is the original
I hate the british accent, no offense, but it’s just fucking annoying. I speak American in class to trigger my english teachers.
1:53 German people make jokes?
Was this one of the jokes?
Tht cant be true...
Deutchen machen kleine Witzen!
Nooit! Dat is 'n belofte, Wim! ;-) @@wimschoenmakers5463
@@wimschoenmakers5463 Deutchen machen vielleicht kleine Witzen, aber Deutsche können durchaus grosse Witze machen :-)
Lmao they complain about the dutch jokes but they simply haven't heard the german jokes yet
the girl "They (Dutch) are just very blunt and upfront - yeah - but not in an english way".....Since when are the english people direct? They talk soooo increcredibly indirect and are not upfront nor direct
PowerRedBull
Beating around the bush is a considered a very British thing. It’s very annoying
Yeah I strongly dislike it too! I'm dutch and I find it hard to be around people who are so polite that I have no clue what they reallly think/feel about things. It's like I'm talking to a bunch of actors who play a role and I have to figure out what the actor is really like themselves. You can not instantly know what a person is like, so it will simply result in that you have to get to know people that you would just dislike from the moment you met them if they were really themselvse. It makes it way harder to find likeminded people, since you have to figure out first what teir personality is like under that layer of politeness. Statistically this makes you end up with less people you actually like underneath their exterior...
The British can be very rude in their own way. It's just a matter of phrasing. They might say something like "well, I agree with the concept of your suggestion". Meaning they don't agree with the suggestion itself at all.
It's like they're stuck in that Victorian/Edwardian era of being polite even while calling someone's mother a cheap sleazy whore.
Compare "You, sir, are the son of a thousand fathers" to "smerig hoerenjong".
Once in London a homeless guy confronted me asking for money. I refused politely and he became so angry: ”You’re in my country! You should blablabla go back blabla” like wtf dude. Atleast I’m contributing to your country in comparison to you parasitising on yours. So they can be very direct, or he was just an asshole. Or both
Wanna talk about rude, beating around the Bush is rude
In my experience Dutch students tend to be 'rude' to their friends. It is understood as teasing among friends and shows acceptance in the group. When you are used to that way of interacting you don't get insulted that easily and don't take things too seriously. Among strangers though, it is not common nor accepted to crack rude jokes.
@Pascal - freedom of speech and being critical is not what I meant with 'rude'. It is the way some Dutch people interact with friends. You know, use insulting nicknames, rude language and laugh at eachother. They wouldn't do that to strangers, but if you're part of the inner circle there's a nickname for you too. Ofcourse this is a generalisation, and it's not only Dutch students who do this. But since they interviewed exchange students, they might have experienced this behaviour. The combination of familiarity on the one hand and reservedness on the other probably confuses some cultures.
completely true, we tend to use this kind of humor to connect to people. With our culture we tend to keep some distance in a conversation. But when doing this a conversation might end up being more relaxed and open! Older people sometimes do it in a "loving way" , saying like "Aren't you old enough to do it for yourself?!" will actually mean that you grew up real fast . And will always have a sweet look in their eyes. We talk with our faces allot so like the emotions we express mean more then what we actually say. The ones that do this to complete strangers we do consider rude. BIG BIG culture shock to many! Please keep in mind we might even mean something so nice!
lmao thats all we do among friends
Yea "being rude" to friends generally means we're comfortable with them and it's kind of a form of bonding. But at the same time I'll be a lot more formal and polite with strangers or people I don't know that well yet.
Yeah the better friends you are the more you insult eachother in a funny way, we spend a lot less time complimenting eachother, we think that's embarrassing so we make fun and laugh. A friend and i had a reputation in a certain place for fighting all the time, when we found out we were so surprised, it was all banter and we were laughing! Even the gifts from Sinterklaas for kids are packed with a character assassination poem attached to it. even the gift doesn't matter as much as the good joke in the poem you can make about it. like if you make a lot of spelling errors you might get typex or an eraser. I grew up dutch of course but I think the people usually have good intentions, even "rice eater"is not bad because we like rice and exotic foods.
In another video an American student in Amsterdam lost her way to the university and asked directions on her map to an old Dutch man. An old man said to her :"if you are a university student and cannot read maps, how can you be inteligent enough to finish university?" He smiled and wanted to help her, but she started crying because she was hurt. The old man just made a joke of it, but yeah, Dutch humour...
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These are actually meant to be so sweet and uplifting like a "you can do it". Its a bit of a common joke in Holland! But i totally understand this is a huge culture shock!
It seems like something is wrong with that girl if she strats fucking crying because of that
@@theboogeyman5736 It's possible she was already stressed. Maybe due to being lost in an unfamiliar city.
Ross damn u soft
Only tip I have for people is to just go along with it and just tease them back.
We tease each other to show that we're comfortable with eachother. Nothing tells someone better that you're comfortable with them than knowing you can make fun of them without consequences.
If people tease you, it's a compliment. Tease them back.
When the joke is racial however, there are no comebacks on an equal level. Therefore, either you clap back at a level thats way too rude for what he teased you for, or way too mild. For example, dutch guy says "haha, thats because you squint eyes cant see" you cannot clap back with something "round eyes" and you'd simply be rude if you replied with something truly rude like "fuck you" or "eat shit."
@@rutger5705 goeie 😅
@@alexzhao3222 But why can't you come back with something like round eyes? If you use it creatively, it would be even better, because it's uncommon. And aren't there enough other dutch stereotypes? I'm fairly short for a dutch guy, so I often go for jokes about length. It really doesn't matter, most people can take it if you're friends.
But indeed, things as 'fuck you' are often interpreted as an insult. The way you say it means a lot, but those short things leave very few things to interpret.
Depends on if it's with friends or not. Against good Asian or African friends I don't see why you can't make racial jokes, because it's a joke and not serious. In turn they can do the same to me. Against random strangers however it's obviously unacceptable
@@alexzhao3222 You can say 'fuck you' for sure to your friends if you do it with a smile. If they are angry after being insulted back, they aren't friends
We actually do learn British English in school. Well at least I did and I heard that from many other people as well. Our English teacher always corrected us when we said things to American. But I think in many countries you cannot prevent people have a bit of both. I was told once by a friend from the US that we Dutch have a mix of American and British English. I think every country has something others don't really like or see as rude while it's normal for the people who live there.
everybody learned british english at school. but because everything is american english around us we tend to speak more american english than real english
Things discussed in this video are not examples of Dutch humor, but examples of Dutch directness. Some girl thinks the US accent is better than your UK accent? She's gonna tell you that to your face (btw, we are not taught a certain accent). Someone thinks you have a Spanish accent? Well yeah dude, you do and someone will tell you. That's not a joke or humor, it's just what someone thinks.
@the forbidden girl The difference is that we say mostly the same things (although we do adres certain things that other cultures probably wouldn’t) but we don’t sugercoat it like the British for example. Like why tf would you say: im in between jobs. Just say you are jobless, it is not that hard
Rice eater yeah I also got that once, my answer is " because your food are horrible in Netherlands", did I learn Dutch humor well?😄
Reported, Russian Troll. No Asian is called Bob Hans, not even a Dutch one.
@@Widdekuu91 uh he did not say he was asian he just stated Dutch Cuisine sucks
@@davidderuiter726
"yeah I also got that once."
Why would anyone call anyone a rice eater if they are not Asian?
@@Widdekuu91 i eat rice too, i really do not know but then Dutch humor is not funny is it not
@@davidderuiter726
Laat me even iets uitleggen.
Bob Hans, hierboven, heeft alle kenmerken van een Russische troll. Dat wil zeggen, hij heeft geen avatar, geen content, geen video's, geen beschrijving, en een Amerikaanse voornaam (Bob) en een Nederlandse voornaam (Hans.)
Niemand heet natuurlijk Bob Hans. Zeker de Aziaten niet, zie je het al voor je?
En het is ook een hele gekke nickname.
Nu is het belangrijk om te weten dat de Russen al een tijdje proberen om ruzie te maken met mensen in de comments, zodat ze de politieke stromingen kunnen beïnvloeden.
Ze proberen dan Nederlands over te komen. Een Rus heeft geen flauw idee dat 'Bob Hans' niet Nederlands klinkt. 'Hans' kan best een achternaam zijn, vinden zij. Weten zij veel...het klinkt Nederlands voor hen.
Nu zegt deze 'Bob Hans' dat hij ook vaak rijst-eter genoemd wordt. Hij laat daarmee zien dat hij Aziaat is, want het is een racistische opmerking richting Aziaten.
Je noemt een Nederlander ook geen broodjesvreter..het feit dat er 'rijst' in de naam zit, laat zien dat het een opmerking is richting Aziaten.
Hij zegt; 'Dan zeg ik altijd terug; nou..dat is omdat het Nederlandse eten vies is."
Hij is dus niet gewend aan Nederlands eten, zegt hij. Hij vind het vies, daarom eet hij rijst.
Nederlanders eten vaak Nederlands eten (en rijst, kan natuurlijk ook) maar Aziaten eten vaker rijst en worden daarom (uit racisme) rijst-vreters genoemd.
Nog één keer op een rijtje; 'Bob Hans, de Aziaat met twee vreemde voornamen, zegt dat hij rijst eet, omdat hij de Nederlandse keuken zo goor vind.'
De naam klopt van geen kanten, want Nederlanders (of Aziaten) heten *geen* Bob Hans. Maar dat weten Russen niet...die ruzie willen maken in de comments.
Daarom neemt Hans de moeite niet om Nederlands met ons te praten (dat spreken de Russen niet, alleen Google Translate) en maakt hij zelfs foutjes in zijn Engels met 'because your food are horrible" (terwijl het natuurlijk *is* horrible moet zijn.)
Snap je me, David?
Dutch directness is often misunderstood as rudeness. People in the Netherlands just say what they think because we are free to do so. If you feel offended by it, tough luck. In the Netherlands, we are free to express our thoughts and opinions and we often use humour to express it. By experiencing it and not taking it too seriously you will develop a shield against it, you toughen up. What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.
Stormfox you know, as a Dutch person myself, I do feel like Dutch humor can be rude...
Like sometimes people say things that are just rude and I think saying they’re just being direct is an excuse.
@@ross6753 I rather be misunderstood for being rude than being hypocritical. I rather have my friends tell me my new outfit looks terrible on me than them telling me it looks great whilst talking behind my back about how terrible it actually looks. By being 'rude' we are doing you a favour.
@@ross6753Don't you have your reasoning the wrong way around here? Shouldn't it be: If I tell you your suit doesn't suit you, I am telling you the truth (if it doesn't suit you). If I tell you your suit does suit you, I am lying (if it doesn't suit you).
@@ross6753 Sorry to hear that you had to experience that. However, most Dutch people are not like that. I did not say telling the truth is the same thing as being rude. I merely suggest that telling the truth can be perceived as being rude, without having the intention of being rude to somebody. If I say I think your suit doesn't suit you (and let's assume it really doesn't), I tell you the truth. However, you can perceive that as rudeness because you thought it did suit you. The intention of my message was not to be rude or to insult you but to tell you the truth and give you my honest opinion. I can't help it that you will be offended by me telling what I think. But that is the point I am making: The sender of the message cannot know beforehand whether his/her message will be offending the receiver. If the sender of the message has to constantly keep in mind that his/her message may offend the receiver, the sender of the message would constantly be in fear for what he/she says: in fear of offending somebody. If the sender of the message always is in fear of offending somebody, he/she cannot speak freely anymore.
just tease them back man. My sport is shooting rifles competitively and i get called a school shooter sometimes. "Oh, when you finally go through with shooting up the school, bring me a gun too, im suicidal anyway so i might as well join and go out with a bang" kinda shit. The dude that said this exact thing actually tried to kill himself once by train, so every time a train passes we just say " well shit, now you gotta wait for the next one. Anyone got the train plan? You can get at least 5 minutes late, dutch railways amirite?"
We all get along and find it funny, although to an outsider this might be very offensive
Making fun of suicide is beyond the dutch directness, has nothing to do with it. I think its the ignorance of the decease, quite a shame.
@@DutchNewbJr Nee dat is het juist, als je bevriend bent met elkaar kun je dit soort grapjes maken, dat doen we allemaal. Zelfmoord, kanker, niet te geloven dat ik dit, wat veel minder erg is, in hetzelfde rijtje moet stoppen, en racisme zijn van die onderwerpen waar je dan grapjes over kunt maken, tenzij iemand zijn of haar grenzen aangeeft.
@@wilhelmdietz4023 grapjes als deze worden gemaakt maar niet tegen de persoon die suicidaal is geweest, of grapjes over kanker terwijl je vriend het heeft of had. Dat gaat tever. Deze grapjes worden wel gemaakt naar vrienden die bijv niks met die 2 ziektes te maken hebben en kerngezond zijn
@@DutchNewbJr Hoezo is het leuk om dat soort grapjes te maken tegen mensen die er niets mee te maken hebben gehad?
Hij legt uit dat de vriend zelf er ook om moet lachen en er zelf ook grapjes over maakt.. Wat is nou het probleem? je bent offended voor een ander
I'm Dutch and i think the rudeness often comes from a place of insecurity. Not always, but often. Especially young people often use it to hide behind. I don't mind directness, but being overly rude is just pathetic imo.
I think you may be right.
We dutchies have no manner whatsoever especially the younger people, its what defines us :D
@Lah Doh Tun well i think that OP’s statement might just be a bit misleading. We do have manners, and are not really that rude (for example when eating and other things most people will be polite and stuff) it is just that unlike the British and Americans we don’t like to sugarcoat stuff. I mean if you are jobless just say you are jobless, if someone smells tell them at least then they know and can fix it. But that is just different cultures i geus...
@Lah Doh Tun idk OP is just weird ig
we aren't born with a filter on our mouth.
We as Dutch people just grow up with the fact there is no real line you can cross when it comes to humour. Nothing is off limits when it's a joke because that's our way of talking about complicated issues. As long as it's a joke and you're not deliberately trying to hurt someone with a sexist or racist remark but use it as a way to comment on societal issues then I think it's a great way to get people into a more progressive mindset. And usually the jokes become harsher and more blunt the better we know someone. It just shows you like and trust each other as a form of endearment
So, Dutch rude humor is like throwing shade & you have to be ready for the insults by throwing them back like a boomerang whilst attempting to shield from the jokes.
I wouldn't think of it being racist. In general I would say, we (the dutch) don't take ourselves to seriousely, so we don't take people with other nationalities as serious aswell. I understand people think of the dutch as rude. Life is seriousely enough, so don't take it to serious. And If you can make jokes about someone and take it when they make jokes about you, it's fine. Just don't cross any boundaries of decency.
The more direct the jokes are, the more honest the person who makes them is regarded. Which is probably why people come to like it.
Also, we Dutchies only joke around with people we like.
Please save me from your "humour" then
@@lepetitchat123 i would because by looking at your response i can already tell you are one of those butthurt, over-sensitive people, and thus i would never befriend you
@@GameJeMee thank you
@@lepetitchat123 no problem 😌
A bit sarcastic? Sarcasm defines Dutch humour.
Thank God dry sarcastic humor is my kind of humor. I often just laugh sarcastically back to their humor. That's how it works for me.
Well, ... Voxweb, Let's hear you crack a joke in Dutch.
I'm sure all the jokes been spoken of here were made in English, a second language to the Dutch.
The jokes may have sounded harsh but all the interviewed students made clear they understood it to be a joke.
"a second language to the Dutch". That's not very a good excuse. We're the best non-native English speaking country in the world. --'
@@IAmHoTSHoTzz Spot on! Best non-native English speaking country... Which still makes it a second language ! Dutch people reckon their English smooth asf, but in reality it tends to be quite difficult to be even nearly as articulate as they would be in their native tongue.
@@nlrotterdam2715 true, you lose a lot of conviction in your words going from dutch to english
@@IAmHoTSHoTzz "best non-native English speaking country in the world", Pffft Make that the cat wise.
@@BathtubSkyPirate 'make that the cat wise' You do realise that is only a saying in Dutch right? also we are in fact #1
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We learn the american accent cause it is easier. And we hear it more.
Schools are "if it isn't oxford english, IT IS WRONG"
The very ugly use of get, got and gotten says so much of your lack of command of the English language.
american english isnt a language, its a speech disorder
@@MsMesem nobody used it, move along knob
I always make rude jokes to friends and people i love because they understand my humor (whether it is funny or not) .. to strangers though i am always very polite and not that direct
Indeed, the Dutch are generally very unmannered when it comes to making our bloody jokes. Also we are quite unaware of it at the same time. Probably because we all of have developed some sort of elephant skin to it by now.
I was an expat there for around 5 years . Here is my take -
The Dutch are by far some of the nastiest people, I have ever encountered in Europe. They pride themselves in their so called "Dutch Directness", which they feel, makes the entitled to - be rude for no reason whatsoever (Except when you are tourist with money). Bad upbringing I guess.
They claim to be extremely openminded, when in fact the reality is quite far from it, as there is quite a high level of xenophobic tendencies among the people. They seem to have a derogatory outlook to anything non - Dutch, except when it's German.
I think the Dutch get too many underserving positive stereotypes, particularly by tourists who wear a cap and walk around Amsterdam, thinking they have got to know an entire country within a span of 3 - 4 days.
Dutch are blunt. They do not mince words. They give their opinion. If they do not like you, they say it to your face.
If they like you, they are very loyal.
My favorite comedian is Ande van Duin. He is very kind. He is the Dutch Mr Bean
Andre can Duin humour is universial . I like him as well. Nowadays Dutch are kind of humourless....and just mean... intelligent humour is less and less day by day.
Dutch are not loyal at all man haha. Im dutch myself. I agree that they if they dont like you they will show it in their behaviour but will not say it. But saying that the dutch are loyal, thats just bullshit 😂
@@EllinonEnosis Yes ie what is wit?
@@MsMesem witty that is what Andre van duin is :) We need wittiness in our lives. If you know the two Ronnie's (British comedians) that is kind of the style of Andre.
@@EllinonEnosis Fine but what % of the Dutch population reflect that type of humour?
We Dutch people don’t see it as rude because we all know they’re meant as jokes, and we’re not crybabies who get offended already if someone says “fuck u”. Or at least that’s my opinion
NOTE: It's important to know DUTCH people also make cynical jokes about themselves or other Dutch people or even about Dutch stereotypes. Please don't preceive this as rude, it'snot meant to be rude (in the most cases) And if it is, you shurely will know it is.@ 1:29 This i hear a lot, they are very upfront thats kinda rude..........
If someone is giving you their honest opinion or answer, for the live of me, HOW CAN THAT BE RUDE? if you don't wanna know the answer to your question just don't ask. We ask questions because we are curious and wanna know about you.
If they can't take a joke it's their problem
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If Dutch can't take a throat punch after making their ''blunt and badass'' jokes it's their problem.
I love how the Dutch always try to excuse racism and rudeness with "we're just really blunt" and its "more effective". How is calling someona a rice eater effective lol?
obv it's not okay with someone you just recently met, but like my best friend for over 10 years is asian and he always jokes around saying shit like "Go colonize something" and I just tell him to go eat a dog. it's just how we are with people close to us but straight up rude towards strangers
Synonym for constipated.
@@TonyDutchXX what a wonderful relationship
@@distortionto1066 it is
Hé ment Loempia Vouwers. It’s different! We don’t call them rice eaters
I am Dutch and pretty sure I do not know anyone who thinks calling someone a rice-eater is funny. At worse people think it factually true at best they will look oddly upon it. I do not believe any of these are jokes either. Maybe "humor" in the form of teasing, but not jokes.
Gozer, als ik een chinees een rijstvreter noem is t toch echt best grappig, net als een arabier een woestijnrat noemen ofzo, super geinig
What’s wrong with names that are stereotypical like rice eater? Asians eat rice, fact. What’s wrong with rice? I don’t feel offended at al if people call me a cheese head.. I think people shouldn’t take themselves or others too serious.
@@tuyn8403I am not sure what you are asking these questions. However the first question. It would depend on the situation. As I said, it could be used as teasing. But often it's used as a racist slur. Intentions behind words are important. In those cases, I believe it to be wrong.
We also really do not get to decide if people should be offended or take things more or less serious. The only thing we get to decide is how much we are willing to care about those feelings. So your opinion whatever people should be offended or should take things less serious is pretty much useless. They are offended and take it seriously.
@@tuyn8403 - Indeed, I greet my Italian friend with: Hey ouwe spaghettislurper (Spaghettisucker) and he replies with: Hey Kaaskop (Cheesehead). We don't see the problem. But I would never say that to an unformiliar italian guy.
It's all about context.
True, but this clip is generalizing a lot....
It isn't a problem at all, they just are more direct and don't really care about these things. I'm portuguese and a friend teases me really often about how I should "return the gold" (I live in Brazil, which was colonized by Portugal). It's ok and funny for him to tell me things as that or call me "bacalhau" (cod, traditional portuguese food). Although, it is definitely gonna be offensive if someone I don't even talk to tells me to go back to my country and to return the gold. What really matters is the proximity you have with that person and the intention with which it was said.
Die americaan maakte er een hele missie van.
ja echt he, wat een moraalridder 😂
had je anders verwacht ? amerikanen hebben overal wat mee , maar met Haloween als mexicaantje verkleed gaan is weer geen probleem ...hypocriet volk , als er ergens racisme is dan is het wel daar ...en noemt zichzelf het land van vrijheid en mogelijkheden voor iedereen ... lol ...
@@DouweEgbert Het ironische is dat de mensen die zogenaamd tegen racisme zijn (Dit zijn dan de sjw's waar ik over praat) creeren juist meer racisme. Door bijvoorbeeld niet naar bewijs te kijken of "safezones" te creeren want in principe gewoon apartheid is. Amerika is een achterste voren land waar je alleen maar gelukig kan zijn als je geld hebt.
@Jesper Jansen huh.
Überhaupt iedereen in dat filmpje was zwak behalve die Duitser, echt waar joh voor hoe Amerika in elkaar steekt zijn ze mentaal erg erg zwak.
Maar een uitzondering die Zuid-Koreaan een rijst eter noemen is gewoon racisme en niks grappigs aan.
Altough i do agree with some points made in this video, some of the arguments are just generalizing everyone in The Netherlands, which i find highly doubtable
The english girl saying that the dutch are rude... i find the english way more rude😅
@VOID Tourists in general are usually a 'problem' I mean you go to another culture for your own pleasure so they usually don't try to fit in and can be quite rude because of it. They think of it as holiday whilst the rest is just going through a regular day.
English are fucking rude and arrogant as fuck.
English people are acting nice while they are not. There are some good ones off course....
English are rude in their effort to not be rude. I always consider extreme indirectness a bit insulting.
Rice-eater? x'D Rijsteter? Can't say I've heard that one before. I did use bamboo-hoofd (Bamboo-head) once to a Chinese fellow. :? Though Spleetoog "Split-eye" was more popular in my youth. And Pinda (peanut) to an Indonesian friend. My dutch mates are fellow "Kaaskop(pen)" ; "cheese-head(s)". Germans are "Mof(fen)" , I think the equivalent is "Kraut(s) but unrelated. French people are "Kikkers" (frogs)... Ehr. There's probably more but these are all those I use(d).
That's just the ethnic slurs though. I call my friends Tuig, Klootviool, Oelewapper, Muts, Mafkees, Bastaard, and many more. They mean "rabble", "scrotum-viola" and ... uh.. No idea what the literal translation of Oelewapper is, but I say it after they do something stupid. So its calling someone an idiot I guess.
I guess it's different from person to person but I would never use the above terms to anyone I didn't like. Messing with your friends is normal everywhere and you rib each-other on superficial stuff... Ethnicity falls under that category for me as long as it is around people that I know well enough to trust they won't mind and do it back.
I could not be friends with people that couldn't take it. That's an immediate never-more-than-acquaintance-zone for me, after an apology. I'm polite after all. :)
1:30 And LOL xD The brits think they're upfront. That's the funniest joke in this entire video.
Don't take everything so seriously and endure a little bit of sarcasm now and then and you'll be fine with Dutch humour.
0:36 I think I speak for most Dutch people when I say that the American accent sounds awful and we tend to learn British English in high school (at least I did). I've never heard any Dutch person speak English in an American accent, we speak with a Dutch accent because, you know, we're Dutch and not American..
I find this statement curious. What exactly is an "American accent"? I can travel to parts of my own country and not understand people because of their thick accent. We have many regional accents.
It not always WHAT you say but HOW you say it...I have a very sarcastic sense of humor and people I deal with tell me that I can say things that, when someone else would say that, it would be rude or offensive. But they say that with my expression and grin on my face it is humorous and appreciated. Of course I also know where to draw the line.....😄
I'm Spanish and we also make jokes like those. The Mediterranean character doesn't take life seriously too. So I wouldn't be offended by cute Dutchies teasing us. I found them lovely and loyal people. They're honest in a good way. I adore them. 😉
Life is so much easier with that view. The world would be a better place if more people do so ✌️
@@liannefee9638 I totally agree... People should be a bit more open-minded to laugh more. 😊
One sentence, we don't take offence to words.
You want to hear some of our jokes about Belgians?
no thanks :-)
The girl in the vid is lying. It is inconceivable that a Dutch person calls an Asian "Rice eater" it's not a thing, "Slit eyes" (Spleet oog) I can believe. The term "Rice eater" maybe comes from American pop culture, but the Dutch would prefer "Slid eyes" over "Rice eater" every day of the week. Just an observation.
I speak Dutch ofcourse with an accent and not totally correctly even after learning in total 5 years even in Antwerpen. There i started to hate The Netherlands and Belgium and the locals. Very big rasists and talk in English even when i am talking in their stupid language...Never had that type of experiance in other countries and i am travelling a lot! Have to make a special channel to advice people who have to deal with them like i do for 9 years and to better do something else in life!
when they speak English their vowels are coming from the throat. All of the vowels long deep in the throat.
@@oz7515 Fresh example from my last holiday last week - was talking in german with germans and they answered in german...same age of people, two diffeeent couples trying to answer in english and even something between portuguese /spanish 🤔😂Even the germans were joking about and with them. Don't like them as well...Sorry but the mentality of BE and NL is not ok at all, just a big "commercial" how open minded they are etc but in reality we see only two faced...
1:00 the annoying kid in class
She looks like she's pushing 40 lol
We actually learn British English in school but many people gain a more American accent due to American popular culture (movies, music, etc.)
We say what we think. End convo
I love the Dutch.. A large part of my ancestry helped found New Netherlands (NYC and nearby up the Hudson Valley to Albany).. N in Mt experience traveling all over Dutch people have always been so nice to me. And I love how they're hilariously blunt, it's refreshing.
Actions speak louder than words. They may say some things that in today's world people get 'canceled' for but they're overall such a nice people and thar shines through in their actions.
I love that my cities' flag is basically a Dutch flag w a symbol/crest in the middle
some of these are just straight up rude tho? we don't consider them jokes....
it's true that we are kind of direct and so is our humor but still....
The American saying we make jokes about race/ethnicity is a little off. We make fun of nationalities, especially if you're German or Belgian. The general rule is, once one person starts, you can return the favor.
Gotta love how everyone is like ‘yeah it’s offensive but I’m fine ig’ except for the Germans who just...relate.
We don't learn American English in school. It is most definately British English that is tought. I remember my teacher saying when we used Amercan words she would say de British version and that she doesn't teach American English. She would actualy mark it in a test or something if you made that mistake. The thing is we don't watch that much English television on tv but we do watch all kind of American shows and movies so we tend to pick up "bad habbits" and use the American accent.
Think it really depends on the person and how good you know them. Like I make a lot of fun of myself and always call my brother ginger, but he finds it very funny and he also makes a lot of "no soul" jokes.
I find the Dutch rude in general, sorry to say. There’s a certain superiority complex I cannot put my finger on...
rick frenay De comment gaat niet over aanpassen maar over hoe ik over het algemeen over de Nederlandse ‘attitude’ denk. Maar toch grappig dat jij dat zegt, ik ben in Nederland opgegroeid en ben een groot voorbeeld van aanpassingsvermogen. Ook reis ik de hele wereld over en zie hoeveel Nederlanders die in het buitenland wonen juist denken zich niet aan te moeten passen en hun mentaliteit ongegeneerd door iedereen zijn strot douwt. Met ‘wij zijn direct en eerlijk’ kom je niet weg, je kan namelijk beide zijn zonder onbeleefd te zijn.
That's largely a Holland thing, the rest of the provinces aren't as stuck up.
I think they’ve mistaken Austria for Australia. That guy is definitely an Austrian bloke, while they placed the Australian flag above him 😂
I'm African and l have travelled around the world,Asia,America and most part of Europe,the best people are Dutch.
now i know you can hide your rudeness by calling it "direct" or "straight-forward"
We do in fact make blunt statements about each other... we do it about ourselves as well. Like, I'm a redhead, sometimes people say like "What's your name again, I forgot" and I just say "Just call me that red haired dude" or whatever. We're not beating around the bush, take a joke.
Rofl ... that German guy called us rude. They were rude to us for 5 years and you don't hear us complaining about that :) :) (Sorry could let that one slide)
And the bastards stole our bikes (they can keep them) and in '74 also our rightfully earned cup (never forgive, never forget !)
You can compare it to ,,Clint Eastwood interacting with his barber in his brilliant movie "grand torino"
That could have been in Rotterdam or The Hague. Easily.
The flag at 0:31 is a bit old. It's the King's Colours or Great Union Flag which was relinquished in 1801. It only represents England and Scotland.
since when do we learn american english? as far as i know you always learn rp english (british english).
american isnt even a language
I had a friend who always called me: "Lul" (dick), but in a very kind way. So it was meant sarcastic. The friend and I are both Dutch.
I'm Bulgarian and we have similar culture for humor with the Dutch XD
They dont teach American English at all, it is all Cambridge English taught at schools. It is true that Dutch people tend to speak more American English due to all the TV shows broadcasted after 8 PM in the Netherlands.
And the humor differs where you're from, city humor and humor from people from villages vary a lot. While it also can differ among groups. Yet it can quickly be seen as rude which is true, but most people feel when it is okay to use and when not.
stelletje rare buiten landers :D
*Buitenlanders.
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"American English is nicer"
This just triggers me British English is way better
Yes
the usa doenst have an official language
No
dont forget we have in holland 2 languages officiel it is frysk spoken in the north it goes at 746 AD
Frysk is een spraakgebrek....
No, Frisian is only an official language inside the province of Frisia. Not in the rest of the Netherlands. So, you cannot say it is "the second language of the Netherlands (or even worse, Holland).
Within the Netherlands we also make fun of eachother about their place of birth, like people in the northeast all being farmers and Limburgers basically being Belgian, so I don't really think it's a racial thing (maybe partly, but most of us don't mean it as a racist remark).
Limburgers being Belgians yeah no. Limbugers are Germans and they only became Dutch in 1840.
People from Brabant are Belgians. And everybody outside of the Randstad are Farmers
Idk where that guy or girl went to school but we learn mainly British English in the Netherlands with attention to the differences between American and British English lol
It also makes more sense job wise as you are far more likely to deal with tourists from the UK as opposed to American tourists
We are not blunt and rude .... we are direct, we tell you what we think ..... british people tend to not tell you what they think but talk around it ..... I think that is rude ..... the directness is not to offend but to give you the opportunity to do whatever you want to do with that remark are advice ..... I think it is an refreshing and an honest way of communication
You dont seem to use please or thankyou....harsh.
Have you ever thought that we have heard the same "directness" like one hundred times? It's not even offensive, is annoying and boring. The problem with stereotypes is there're not so many, and everybody use the same to make the "funny" joke. After a few times, you find it stupid, not even offensive
Racial? We’re fun of our own culture. Weird, but it is our humor..
Wait, 2 people said it was offensive of the 5 you showed, you interviewed even more probably, but just showed the best, and now the Dutch humor is rude? How did you come to that conclusion?
Of course Dutch humor is rude. There's no such thing as polite humor.
Come to New Zealand, and you will realise polite and wholesome humor is superior :P
Dude i love our dutch humour, like i am probably a very good example of a dutch guy who is very blunt and offensive Just for Jokes, no i'm not racist and no I do not mean any of it, i just love to tease Friends and fool about
Which country is the last flag from?
Im dutch,
And i 100% agree with the fact that we make rude jokes on each other here in the Netherlands among friends. its just to tease each other we never take each other seriously here thats the way we are😉
'The American accent is much nicer'.
No, no its not.
I remember one random Dutch lady shouted at me in an Albert heijn because she was offended that I was buying bottled water since Holland has very clean tap water and at the time I was taken a back and I actually didn't buy the water in the end 😂
😂I can just picture your face at that moment, slowly puting the water bottle back on the shelf and slowly backing away.
We (Dutch people) have a lot of self-mockery
welp
since when
since WHEN
is the American English accent better than the British one
hello
did you *hear* it
0:20 i mean Kazakhstan is located in Central-Asia so they're not wrong
Lol I'm Dutch and no one I know makes fun of race and culture at all.
We are straight forward in our commucation towards others.
I like the British accent 10000 better
The way America use to be until you got a bunch pampered crybabies everywhere...
These observations seem to be quite accurate.
Dutch people are very direct, and sometimes it comes off as rude, but that isnt the intention at all. The same with comedy.
We dont wiggle around an opinion or topoic but say it as it is, and especially americans arent used to that.
We're not very subtle.
I've never heard American English being taught in schools, the standard is British. My little sister had the word 'sweets' in her textbook and not 'candy'
Well this is quite rude as well. Fawlty Towers with some guests from Germany: ua-cam.com/video/yfl6Lu3xQW0/v-deo.html
Well we do our part as well with roasting people.
We're sarcastic and love just saying whatever the fuck we have on our minds and Yh... We swear a fuck ton
That British girl has some very bad experience. At my high school we only learned how to spell and talk the British way. And isn't it one giant stereotype that humanity loves the British accent?
Either way, I agree that the Dutch humour can sound rude, but it's supposed to be humorous. Me and my friends call each other 'bitch' and 'fag' all the time. Because... we literally are haha (at times... mostly... sorta kinda...)
We actually learn British English in school just cus most Dutch people have an american-ish accent (they think at least. most dutch people have a horrible english accent) from watching american tv and movies doesnt mean we dont get thaught British English
I was always perplexed why a Dutch friend of a friend did not find my favourite comedy from the UK "Nighty night" funny - it's the epitome of Dutch humour!
I'm only rude to my best friends
I like it when people say what they think ..... I do not like hypocrisy at all
When I was in America everyone said anywhere: "how are you!". I got crazy because they did not wait for an answer and it does not interest them. haha i'm sorry for this
Sterre van Eldijk. "How are you" or "How are you doing" are just a way of greeting a person. We don't expect an entire story about what is going on in your life, just a quick " I'm fine, how are you?" is enough....
@@atheistje835Don't generalize, yes there are a lot of ignorant Americans but every country has those. Nederland has its share of that type of people too. With a statement you made I would suggest that you look in a mirror to see one....!
@@theamericandutchman8067 het is een soort schijnbeleefdheid. En is inderdaad zoals ze zegt juist erg onbeleefd als je nagaat.
If you don't like their humor, you are free to leave anytime you want.
So to be short, one could feel offended by the Dutch.
So what ?
Ladies and gentlemen, let me tell ya, if you find our humour rude, you will CERTAINLY know when we are trying to insult you. If we want to be rude, we are very very very rude.
i always wonder about humor in different cultures i'm Dutch, but i would like to heart examples how plp form abroad understand dutch humor how the would go about the same thing where is it
differents, ?or even thegeneral feeling of dutch being blut and upfront i like to see examples.,
Just give it a try to set auto correction in English, you"ll see that people are able to understand you then.