madambec55 I was thinking exactly the same. Her videos are so informative and so full of details but now is that I am finding her videos (I mean, recently). She definitely should have more support from us. We should share her more.
madambec55 I second that! I've never seen an astrologer with such a profound understanding of aspects in such a practical and down-to-Earth way. I thought that Steven Forrest was the best at that, but now I am not so sure, 🙏🙏🙏.
This is not a paid commercial :-): I have had two spectacularly right-on readings from Jewel, and I can tell you it's a powerful learning experience. If this video resonates with you, get a reading! You'll love what you learn.
I seem to have plutonian and neptunian relationships... every single time ARGH! It's not fun either way, being obsessed or someone else obsessed with you...
Wonderful explanation! Extremely accurate word by word. My Neptune squares and opposes my husband's Mercury, Jupiter, Asc & X Mc ... we love each other unconditionally. I can see how we idealize each other and believe we are "the one". As the Neptun person, that feeling that he can't live without me or the high expectations he has from me is overwhelming. I feel pressured to rise up to his expectations and not disappoint and crush his world. I truly believe that Neptune shows up in a situation/relationship where two people are not fit for each other (age gap, social level, culture, religion, looks, etc.) but the attraction/infatuation is so strong that they can't help but go for it ... even though deep down, if they faced reality, they know they aren't a good fit. I am saying this because I had 2 other relationships with heavy Neptune aspects to Moon, Mercury, Saturn, Mars ... they ended because of those exact reasons ... after years. I don't think the Neptune aspects ended those relationships, but the other Synastry and Composite aspects that made us incompatible in the long run ... opposed to the situation with my husband. I recommend you do a Synastry, Composite, Verdic, everything from Cafe Astrology's website to see the dynamic of your relationship. Only then you'll have an idea what is going on, opposed to looking at one aspect alone.
people always seem to talk only about the dreamy, spiritually-connected, tender and forgiving aspects of neptune synastry. we never hear anything about the delusion and disappointment that comes with it. the fall is so hard. thank you for being unfiltered
I appreciate your appreciation. I am often accused of being negatively biased against Neptune. There are two sides, the delusional and the unconditional. The delusional often disguises itself as unconditional love. Twin flame and soul mate astrologers hate me deeply for showing up and blowing their bullshit out of the water...I’ll continue to do so.
Personnally I've experienced some Neptunian relationships that implied illusion, but I also have long lasting bonds in my current life with some friends, whom Neptune is conjunct some of my personnal planets, and I really feel this soulmate bonds with them, that survived many conflicts and periods of distanciation. For this ones, there's no codependency, but a real appreciation of who the other person is, and the beautiful things we shared together. I think we can't say that soulmates/twin flames stories are "bullshits", when we can see that a lot of people really experience this deep links in their lives. Unconditional love between humans does exists, but yes, we must take the time to truly identify it.
i have had so many neptunian squares in my synastry & composite with a man i fell hardly in love with (or i thought fell in love).. it sucked out of my energy big times... i was the personal planet, and he was the neptune... there was something in the relationship that made him being elusive, started mind games, manipulated & took advantage of me. but in that stage of life, i was lack of healthy boundary so i let him did that to me (subconsciously)... i am glad i have been through that painful relationship. i think it was such a good learning experience... because after that, i evolved and become someone truly different.
Gacanti Swastika That sounds Plutonic, not Neptune. Its hard to tell which aspect killed your relationship cause its never 1 aspect that makes of breaks your relationship.
@@miriamuSama’s Neptunian from my perspective because manipulation & being taking advantage of are big themes. Boundaries are easily dissolved with Neptune & it presents itself very safe because of the projecting. Plutionic relationships have an underlining controlling theme & very intense, it’s transformative in nature too. I think the thing that stands out is in Neptunian themed relationships is that there is self deception & deception from the partner. In Plutonic relationships you’re more aware of the negative but you are magnetized to it & you want the intensity. Plutonic themes unearths that what is within & brings it to the surface it’s not a projection but something that we deny - and for good cause mostly. Pluto will transform you regardless if you want it to. Neptune will only transform you, if you do your work. Otherwise, you’ll fall asleep again.
Neptune is the second planet that dominates my chart the most apparently after Venus. I don't get infatutated very often but when I do it's often a recipie for disaster ... I tend to dissolve my boundaries too much and bleed out till I dry up just like you said... and eventually I start to build up this rage just waiting to burst out almost randomly... and even with me trying to contain it, which is super frustrating to do, it still comes off as extremely excessive and out of the blue and I just end up feeling really sour and completely misunderstood and crazy. I really do take a step back now and know it's just infatuation and that it will pass. I'm actually starting to have an aversion to situations that present themselves as more than what they truly are.
I'm trying to do something similar in the moment. Trying not to throw out all my boundaries for someone I projected my future upon in the early stages of interacting, became infactuated with & barely even know, anyway.
I have Neptune in the First house and a lot of water in my chart and I resonated with this a lot! Now I can take a step back after so many years of life. I have to worry about getting totally sick of the thing and cutting it off. Have to remind myself to be more grounded, realistic, and nice about it all once I see I am in that Neptunian phase again - and be getting taken for a ride while I want to delude myself otherwise.
I hope all of you are doing ok in your relationships. My chart is Neptune heavy too and I’m realizing that I’ve never been really in love in my life. I set myself up so many times. At my 35 years of age, in my day to day life, I take the conscious effort to ground myself, talk to myself out loud alone, and see situations for what they are. I journal my thoughts if I think I’m getting out of control in my delusions😅 I also don’t take drugs or drink.
Been there before and you are on point Jewel! Sos as but very true about these relationships. Plus I'm already very Neptune influenced in my own chart already and the men I've experienced this with were Neptunian as well. It is like being under water floating in your own world...or fishbowl....because everyone else sees you two clearly but you don't see yourselves. One of these relationships resulted in me getting some stupid ugly tattoo that I still need to cover up lol :/
Very much appreciated, Jewel... I think Neptune may manifest less destructively if the individuals are generally compatible: neither I nor my current partner are Neptunian individuals, but in our synastry we both have our Neptunes squaring each other's Sun (in my case) and Moon (in his case). Our composite has Neptune in 1st House conjunct Venus in Sagittarius, making harmonious aspects only. In our case, I think it has manifested itself in the form of us having to go through mutual losses (supporting each other during death & sickness of family members) and also waiting a long time for immigration issues to be sorted out before actually being able to be together. With him, I also started enjoying wine and he resumed his singing hobby that he had quit for years. We also swim a lot together and travel almost only to places close to the sea.
@@friendship6668 The projections you do are actually good for both of you, they fuel your relationship, you are only experimenting the unconditional love side, not the deceptive one.
so my feeling is that neptune partners show up in areas that we on some level still need an illusion for. (this is from my very limited experience) but, i say this cause when neptune has shown up has often been when my life was at very low points and it in a sense saved me at the time when I needed some illusion/ some sense of magic to keep going.
my sun was conjunct their Neptune,and they have Venus in Pisces, which squared my sun.Oh wow, I have been robbed, triple whammy. And I am drained. Total deception.
@@tlhorn9I have had friends with Venus in Pisces, and some strangers, who took advantage of the state of vulnerability to abuse their friends, they are people without control and very manipulative in their youth, and I knew a case where the man wanted to involve a third person young man to his "marriage". They do many things of questionable morality, and they passively or gently overstep your limits.
Wow, robbed is the exact right word. A two sided Neptune aspect on each side here, and she is 12th house dominant and Pisces Venus. I will run a mile next time, CONFUSION CONFUSION CONFUSION, completely destabalising and exhausting.
My Mum and Dad’s Neptune squares my Venus which is my ascendant Sun and Mercury ruler and Mars which is my 7th house ruler. It’s interesting that for all three of us we have our Neptune inconjunct Venus. I noticed that whatever hard aspects I have with my parents and step parents is reflected in my own chart and in my synastry aspects with others, Hard aspects and planets are here to teach us . I won’t run away anymore .
I am the neptunian person and I always wanted the other person to see me for who I am. I never lied, I always told everything about me and kept it real. And I also never thought this person was the 'one' - in fact, there is a lot of options that that person does that I simply do not follow because they are not for me. Now... I cannot answer for them, unfortunately. Since their sun and venus are opposite my Neptune, maybe they are a cheater and I have no idea. Or maybe they are idealizing me - despite the fact that I fight the idealization every day - and I also have no idea because they are not telling. The oppositing are only in the synastry and not on the composite, though. In the composite there are not opposites nor squares to Neptune. In synastry is enough though. Since I hate Neptune so much it made me sad to see it opposite the other person's sun and Venus. It is what it is, though.
That's interesting. I have Saturn squaring his sun so I never thought the Neptune person was the one because I always found something wrong with him lol it in turn made him very deceptive and hide to keep trying to get me to see him a certain way. I always felt attached to him until I found out what he hid. He felt vulnerable to my Saturn and wanted out lol one of the only times I've loved Saturn lol
Her Venus is opposing my Neptune and I am super honest and interested in the reality like you in your description. I have no idea if she is idealizing me, at least I am not idealizing her or the relationship. But I do have to admit that I sometimes have problems to stick to my boundaries with her, whereas I have no problems with boundaries towards other people.
I am the Venus in my relationship with 2 people... Your comment is really interesting for me, because I feel like it is something that I must really work on everyday : try and see the other clearly, as a human being, and not some God that can fullfill all of my desires/needs. It is really hard for us. But if we have the will and the emotional intelligence to see what needs to be worked on, we can focus on that. Maybe you can talk about it with you partner, it would actually make a lot of sense for them, maybe it would help a lot. Because I didn't know, before learning about astrology, that I had this issue. The Neptunian fog can have a really strong influence on us.
Mmmm he lied and hid a lot. The only reason it wasn't entirely self deception was because my Saturn squared his sun so there was a constant reality check 😂 there was always that ethereal feeling though until some point. That's why I love Saturn sometimes. When I found out the truth about what he hid and lied about he wanted out lol because he couldn't deceive me any more lol he was having a hard Saturn transit during that time. Saturn has saved me from a lot of trouble with that one lol
Your explanation makes so much sense in my confusion. I have natal Neptune on my descendant and I'm always afraid I'm dellusional in relationships. But then the composite and synastry always involve Neptune enhanced, so it's not just me. This one guy has his Saturn opposite my Neptune and in the composite we have Sun opposite the Neptune/Mars conjunction. Big time confusion for the both of us!
Yes.. extremely hard to be rational. I started dating this guy last week. My Neptune is conjunct his sun and his Neptune is opposite my sun. Right now we believe that that we are perfect for each other and ready to be together. Even though I know this is ridiculous, it’s hard to stop
@@veryintelligentsmartperson Ha… We are still together. It has not evolved much, but still under the spell. I’m going through a heavy Neptune transit right now so assuming I will know the results of everything in early 2023
lol I love you so much, i used to think it was a plutonic relationship but I think it is more neptunian than plutonic. It can be both because there is also prominent pluto. My sun, venus, jupiter and mercury falls in his 12th house in synastry. And there are trines and sextiles to personal planets in synastry. Neptune conjunct Jupiter in synastry. And composite neptune conjunct uranus, saturn, mars and trine moon.
I’m in one of these right now. It’s such a wonderful relationship and you’re right, I’m totally hooked!! I was hooked on week three lol. We have some small wonderful placements in composite + 1 essential grounding placement in composite but wow - I can definitely see the themes of self delusion and some others you had listed. We have some nasty Neptune in addition to me having nasty Neptune placements in my natal. I’ve really appreciated that your videos have brought me down to earth! Although I don’t LOVE that these aspects are challenging, I’m so grateful for the awareness. You are amazing - thank you!
That was so discriptive _ "What could be" is what Neptunians are all about! (Same as Hollywood, the perfect love you become addicted to the illusion, same as drugs..)
had my moon square their neptune and my neptune trine their moon. and although the relationship dissolved into the air..my love for them still remains because it was a spiritual connection.
It was sooooooo perfect until yesterday. A true fairytale that came crashing down after 5 weeks. I found out he was hooked on pills and was lying about it a lot. A true addict who hides is SOOOOO well and is successful. I kicked him out. It’s so hard but all his 12th house placements in sun, moon, and mercury. That’s a hard life. The rest is basically 8th house too. I gotta get out now. Felt so hard like a soulmate at first.
Story of my life but I'm not usually the one being infatuated. Neptune/venus Scorpio in 12 house with moon in 8th. Worst is being with a Pluto/venus conj my mars and jupiter.
Had worse heartbreak 3 years ago and im the sun person while he was neptune. I still can't get over it because he promised soo much that it is till hard to realize that he was lying. Its so damn hurtful. And yet it seems like i keep attracting same kind of relationships. I starting researching on this neptune thing and found your description spot on. (i am a capricorn zodiac and he was virgo) and i realize that it was also me getting blinded and failing to see why it was never going to work.
Since Neptune squares Mars in my Natal chart, and Neptune moves so slowly, most people in my generation will also square my Mars with their Neptune. Clearly this is an issue I will most likely have to overcome on a personal level (and may find relief from in the composite chart) - do you have any recommendations on how to approach this? I really appreciate your grounded approach to relationships.
+Grace Lewis Dating outside your generation is really the only option to dealing with this in synastry. The strength and difficulty of it will be helped or hampered by how you are dealing it in your own character. All you can do is work on you. That's all any of us should be doing anyway.
I had met somebody and he gave me his birth time we have a really strong connection we talked about marriage and babies right away like.......immediately. We have lots of lots and lots of Pluto in our synastry and lots of Neptune. Mostly sextiles, trines and conjunctions a few tough square and oppositions most the chart looks good. But this mental obsession needs to stop.
It can work very well if the people involved are conscious and grounded, then it's a good thing to have in an otherwise harsh world, for instance. Very compassionate.
I have moon conjunct his north node in the 7ty house. A lot of positive aspects in synastry, as well as Pluto. But his Neptune is on my north node in my first house.
We have lots of positve and negative neptune and pluto aspects both in synastry and composite. but here's a thought: what if we have a trine and sextile between neptune and saturn in the synastry, does it help balance the illusion factor and keep it in check? Also, there's a huge age gap between us, does it translate that way?
I often wonder what to do in these type situations. Do you completely cut out a person who you share these aspects with - When you can pick up on this energy that is actually prohibiting you personally but is so sweet - Or do you see it through to the bitter end. Only to be drawn in by the illusion again at some point in the future.
Don't forget that Neptune projections can also be bad. You can also hate someone and project evil intentions onto them, when in reality it is not the case at all, and the person is really good and genuine with you. With Neptunian relationship, we need to proceed carefully and not go to extremes. That's what is the most difficult. It can also be seeing the other as "all bad", when in reality the other is just a human being trying to do what he can. I think it can work out, if both people are with good intentions and healthy. Idealizing someone is not that bad, when the other truly and genuinely loves you. But it is a constant work on yourself, to try and see the partner clearly. But in my opinion it's not that bad, especially if you have Neptune aspect natally. Then, it feels more familiar and less threatening, as it is something you deal with on your own, so it's easier to navigate the relationship. Actually what scares me the most is Pluto aspects. Too much intensity... We feel like we are destroyed somehow by the relationship, and it feels not that great. Whereas Neptune is just a weird vibe that you can learn to surf on.
Yes, but what can you do? Some experiences are meant to be. I am in One of those, i have already started to be in the delusional parte, since i have already started to focus some aspects of him i dont really like and mostly i am not able to cope with. And this is my sucking it up part. I no longer see any "perfection". I find myself struggling because, still, there is a good part in him, and mostly i find it impossibile to break, at least willingly, the emotional bond ( in sinastry his NN is exactly conjunct my moon). Maybe there is a lesson se can learn here. When the expectations are over we can still work with what sas remained, and this can be who really se have in front and mostly who we really are. What do you think?
Really nice way to think about it. I connected with someone immediately but our chart is heavily neptunian but I can’t stop the connection so maybe i shouldn’t run away from it just because of the chart but maybe I should just stop myself from creating high expectations and also make room for being disappointed, that way I can eventually get to see him for who he really is and then I can really decide if I wanna pursue or not
I have my God damn venus and sun in ascendant and my uranus and neptune in descendant...moon conjunct pluto in the 5th...the relationship i attract has all these planets in conjunction or opposite or trine with either partner's personal planets or my personal planets are in aspect to their outer planets...wtf i can do to have healthy relationship?
We have Neptune conjunct Neptune in synastry as well as many other Neptune aspects and it feels like death to let go but, a total mess when together. It's been going on for years. We also have A lot of aspects in the NN and SN 😫😫😫 its madness.
Hi for future reference Jewel break down in block it wil be much more easy to listen you. I have neptune trine venus in 7 house that why i came to listening tank you for your time to make this :)
Uh oh… My Neptune aspects every planet in his chart except for his Neptune and his Neptune conjunct my Uranus, Trines my Asc … he is my best friend tho, and there’s an enduring quality now that we’re in year 2. But if we’re delusional, how do we know lol ?
We have Neptune conjunct Mercury & other Neptune aspects, loose conjunction to ascendant, trines & sextiles, no squares & 1 opposition to Jupiter in synastry. neither he nor I are deceptive. I missed communication from him at an important stage of our relationship, not seeing he reached out to me & I thought he was ignoring me & I went off from that. but I apologized, he forgave me & now we just know we have to communicate clearly & make sure the other understands. we have great other aspects with sun, venus, moon, jupiter, mars & saturn. we are over 40, mature & grounded. I would only fear if we had squares. look at the whole chart, not just Neptune. we've been together 1 year.
Jewel how do you feel about my generarions neptunian influence? With neptune in capricorn i natally have neptune conjunct mars my venus is also ib capricorn. Idk. I just feel like the neptuninan influence in synastry is a littpe outdated with my generation born 1991. No matter what someone is apways touching our neptune.
He has Mars opposite Neptune, Venus trine Neptune, Mars trine Pluto, Venus opposite Pluto. I have Venus conjunct Neptune and Venus sextile Pluto. His sun opposite my Neptune. My Pluto trine his Jupiter and his sun. His Pluto square my sun&Mars. In composite chart, Venus sextile Neptune and Venus trine Pluto, both within 1 degree. Pluto opposite Mars with 8 degree. Plutonic and Neptunian, I don't know what to do.
Coming out of 10 year marriage with a narcissist. His sun squared my Neptune. Both of our Mars conjunct Neptune. I also have a 12 house stellium natal ( including Venus/ Sun)
I had 2 of these back to back. One Mars square Neptune and one Sun conjunct Neptune. They were both EXACT 0 degree orbs. I was the Mars in the 1st one and Neptune in the 2nd one and both times I thought I was in love 🤦♀️ I have Venus 12H natally so I tend to attract Neptunian relationships
I have venus conjunct a guys sun but his sun is opposite neptune.... so there's that... we have a lot of positive aspects. Like His venus conjunct my sun, my mercury conjunct his north node, jupiter, juno. my moon conjunct jupiter in his 7th, etc Unfortunately, I have pisces descendant..... I am constantly idealizing potential partners I feel compatibility with....
Very onesided. It depends a lot on the rest of the charts individually and together not to mention the maturity and groundedness of the people. Can be very good for earthy types, for instance. I know plenty of people having been together for years with these bindings.
Only after some months, and almost half broken, Peter Pan remembered Snowwhite had something to do with dwarves-he-never-saw, and that they both came from different fairytales..
I have Neptune conjunction my sister's ( not siblings but my uncle's daughter) neptune. We have a very funny relationship. Sometimes it flows like water and sometimes we go without talking for years😂
Me ex's Neptune falls in my 7th house. My sun is in his 4th. His Neptune and Uranus on my ascendant. His Venus in my 4th. We have a karmic relationship. When I synastry out charts, he carries the problems and this is how I always felt. Venus is my 12th house ruler and my Venus is in pisces in the 11th house.
it just came to my attention the other day that i tend to attract a lot of people with neptune in their 1h and it conjuncts to my ascendant (my moon in the 10h is my chart ruler). i am constantly being idealized and once i show parts of myself aside from how i present myself people become disappointed when i don’t live up to their expectations. it’s tiring because i am constantly being misunderstood
Yes!! Especially if the Saturn person is the inner planet person in the neptune connection. It kept me from falling into his claws no matter how much I idealized him something wasn't right (saturn lol) and he didn't manipulate me as much because he felt like I criticized everything he did. Looking back I'm glad because he was really just trying to use me for sex and money.
I'm looking at synastry which has exact squares of Neptune to the Moon and Sun between the two people but in their composite chart Neptune is conjunct descendant with only 'harmonious' aspects, trines and sextile to Moon, Mars, Mercury, Sun.... Wouldn't that be their saving grace?
I am about to enter the Neptune fog. It's not completely that way however. We have a ton of Uranus and Pluto aspects. I think where the attraction is settled is way more sexual then ether one if us would like to admit. I agree with another person on here that age gap plays a part. I am the older person here. I am also the Neptune one, the object of desire. Still, I can feel that this other person is hot for what I represent and my body, but they don't get the real me. How can they, we just met about a month ago. Great video! Thanks for bringing some light to the situation. I can go in with more confidence now.
What if both partners have Neptune and south node in Scorpio but one in the 8th other in the 6th house AND their Neptune and Pluto both in Virgo? Obsessive much? Lol... I already know this answer. Your videos are great btw. Subscribed.
Is there a possibility of a Neptune relationship being a good one? Such as trines and sextiles with a Saturn anchor? We have a lot of those with just one square Neptune and Moon and no conjunctions. Only one Neptune contact in composite. Neptune opp venus. To me that can indicate a 50/50 chance or less?
+Nahla Albaba, It also depends on each individual's consciousness (awareness). Some fantasy is needed in all relationships, but too much can be overkill.
I did learn a lot in my previous one tho. We had massive neptune and Pluto influence, it was very hard to forget and leave him I thought I would never be able to but I could and I learned a lot. I'm very happy now in a real relationship with a wonderful Leo man ❤️
These made me appreciate saturn synastry and saturn transits especially lol painful realizations but once you see the truth? Realistic picture? You can't go back
My neptune falls in his 5th house which is in capricorn. Is that the same thing? I found I had a hard time trusting him in the beginning (due to past relationships) but after trying to catch him lying and all sorts it turns out he is actually very truthful. So I thought the neptune is what caused that for me. Is that the same?
It's the same. I still haven't caught him in a lie but I also stopped looking for lies. I think we both have a hard time trusting each other because of our past. But for me anyways I just take everything for face value. Until he proves me otherwise its pointless to obsess over him lying or not. Since like I said he still hasn't actually proven himself to be a liar to me.l if anything he's just proven that he isn't a liar more so.
Sun and Mercury opposite Neptune . Moon conjunction Neptune (I’m Neptune I think ) .. his Neptune in Aquarius falls in my 5th house in Aquarius . I actually just got out of a toxic relationship and I’m just so untrusting of being cheated on again . They have cheated on partners in the past and said that it was getting old .They said they wouldn’t do that to me but I have a thought in my head “once a cheater always a cheater “ . And it’s weird because they’re untrusting of me aswell because they said they don’t trust anyone at all and think I still have feelings for an ex . So I think we’re basically both having to deal with our own insecurities . I keep trying to overthink Of not trusting them but so far they have been truthful and honest . I just hope they don’t start lying in the future .
I've been in complete torment for the last 5 years in a relationship and we have heavy negative Neptune contacts with the moon in synastry and composite. We have a 3 year old together and the dissapointment is heartbreaking I still don't know how to let go :(
If I have sun moon mercury in Capricorn and neptune in Capricorn, will I have this problems with everyone? And when I read about synastry, neptune, pluto and uranus is strongly involved in my connections with people.
you would have to be the most underrated astrologer on UA-cam xx
+madambec55 😉
For sure! She’s amazing.
madambec55 I was thinking exactly the same. Her videos are so informative and so full of details but now is that I am finding her videos (I mean, recently). She definitely should have more support from us. We should share her more.
I can agree with this. Actually she should be one of the best rated astrologers on here.
madambec55 I second that! I've never seen an astrologer with such a profound understanding of aspects in such a practical and down-to-Earth way. I thought that Steven Forrest was the best at that, but now I am not so sure, 🙏🙏🙏.
This is not a paid commercial :-): I have had two spectacularly right-on readings from Jewel, and I can tell you it's a powerful learning experience. If this video resonates with you, get a reading! You'll love what you learn.
I seem to have plutonian and neptunian relationships... every single time ARGH! It's not fun either way, being obsessed or someone else obsessed with you...
Same here
Wonderful explanation! Extremely accurate word by word. My Neptune squares and opposes my husband's Mercury, Jupiter, Asc & X Mc ... we love each other unconditionally. I can see how we idealize each other and believe we are "the one". As the Neptun person, that feeling that he can't live without me or the high expectations he has from me is overwhelming. I feel pressured to rise up to his expectations and not disappoint and crush his world.
I truly believe that Neptune shows up in a situation/relationship where two people are not fit for each other (age gap, social level, culture, religion, looks, etc.) but the attraction/infatuation is so strong that they can't help but go for it ... even though deep down, if they faced reality, they know they aren't a good fit. I am saying this because I had 2 other relationships with heavy Neptune aspects to Moon, Mercury, Saturn, Mars ... they ended because of those exact reasons ... after years. I don't think the Neptune aspects ended those relationships, but the other Synastry and Composite aspects that made us incompatible in the long run ... opposed to the situation with my husband.
I recommend you do a Synastry, Composite, Verdic, everything from Cafe Astrology's website to see the dynamic of your relationship. Only then you'll have an idea what is going on, opposed to looking at one aspect alone.
people always seem to talk only about the dreamy, spiritually-connected, tender and forgiving aspects of neptune synastry. we never hear anything about the delusion and disappointment that comes with it. the fall is so hard. thank you for being unfiltered
I appreciate your appreciation. I am often accused of being negatively biased against Neptune. There are two sides, the delusional and the unconditional. The delusional often disguises itself as unconditional love. Twin flame and soul mate astrologers hate me deeply for showing up and blowing their bullshit out of the water...I’ll continue to do so.
I can attest to her description...I was in a very Neptunian marriage and unfortunately the dream became a nightmare...😥
You need to read Liz Greene's book on Neptune. It's unremitting.
Personnally I've experienced some Neptunian relationships that implied illusion, but I also have long lasting bonds in my current life with some friends, whom Neptune is conjunct some of my personnal planets, and I really feel this soulmate bonds with them, that survived many conflicts and periods of distanciation. For this ones, there's no codependency, but a real appreciation of who the other person is, and the beautiful things we shared together.
I think we can't say that soulmates/twin flames stories are "bullshits", when we can see that a lot of people really experience this deep links in their lives. Unconditional love between humans does exists, but yes, we must take the time to truly identify it.
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i have had so many neptunian squares in my synastry & composite with a man i fell hardly in love with (or i thought fell in love).. it sucked out of my energy big times... i was the personal planet, and he was the neptune... there was something in the relationship that made him being elusive, started mind games, manipulated & took advantage of me. but in that stage of life, i was lack of healthy boundary so i let him did that to me (subconsciously)... i am glad i have been through that painful relationship. i think it was such a good learning experience... because after that, i evolved and become someone truly different.
Gacanti Swastika That sounds Plutonic, not Neptune. Its hard to tell which aspect killed your relationship cause its never 1 aspect that makes of breaks your relationship.
@@miriamuSama’s Neptunian from my perspective because manipulation & being taking advantage of are big themes. Boundaries are easily dissolved with Neptune & it presents itself very safe because of the projecting. Plutionic relationships have an underlining controlling theme & very intense, it’s transformative in nature too.
I think the thing that stands out is in Neptunian themed relationships is that there is self deception & deception from the partner. In Plutonic relationships you’re more aware of the negative but you are magnetized to it & you want the intensity. Plutonic themes unearths that what is within & brings it to the surface it’s not a projection but something that we deny - and for good cause mostly.
Pluto will transform you regardless if you want it to. Neptune will only transform you, if you do your work. Otherwise, you’ll fall asleep again.
I love your channel. You’re a professor of astrology. Every time I need insight, I run to your channel. Thank you.
OMG this video was so validating! Thank you for making this!! Even if I'm only seeing it 8 years after the fact!
Every time I feel sad I need to rewatch this. Appreciate you so much. 🙏💗
Neptune is the second planet that dominates my chart the most apparently after Venus.
I don't get infatutated very often but when I do it's often a recipie for disaster ... I tend to dissolve my boundaries too much and bleed out till I dry up just like you said... and eventually I start to build up this rage just waiting to burst out almost randomly... and even with me trying to contain it, which is super frustrating to do, it still comes off as extremely excessive and out of the blue and I just end up feeling really sour and completely misunderstood and crazy.
I really do take a step back now and know it's just infatuation and that it will pass.
I'm actually starting to have an aversion to situations that present themselves as more than what they truly are.
I'm trying to do something similar in the moment. Trying not to throw out all my boundaries for someone I projected my future upon in the early stages of interacting, became infactuated with & barely even know, anyway.
I have Neptune in the First house and a lot of water in my chart and I resonated with this a lot! Now I can take a step back after so many years of life. I have to worry about getting totally sick of the thing and cutting it off. Have to remind myself to be more grounded, realistic, and nice about it all once I see I am in that Neptunian phase again - and be getting taken for a ride while I want to delude myself otherwise.
I hope all of you are doing ok in your relationships. My chart is Neptune heavy too and I’m realizing that I’ve never been really in love in my life. I set myself up so many times. At my 35 years of age, in my day to day life, I take the conscious effort to ground myself, talk to myself out loud alone, and see situations for what they are. I journal my thoughts if I think I’m getting out of control in my delusions😅 I also don’t take drugs or drink.
My Neptune is on his ascendant, his Neptune is on my moon (my chart ruler).
Yep.
Been there before and you are on point Jewel! Sos as but very true about these relationships. Plus I'm already very Neptune influenced in my own chart already and the men I've experienced this with were Neptunian as well. It is like being under water floating in your own world...or fishbowl....because everyone else sees you two clearly but you don't see yourselves. One of these relationships resulted in me getting some stupid ugly tattoo that I still need to cover up lol :/
I wish I had heard this 40 years ago. Interpretations are spot on.
Spot on! He was mr prince charming turned out to be nothing let down liar deceipt and a complete nightmare from hell.
Exactly. Completely selfish baby in a man's body.
Spot on! I wonder whether Neptune energy is related to narcissism.
Yes. Bigly.
100% in my opinion.
Very much appreciated, Jewel... I think Neptune may manifest less destructively if the individuals are generally compatible: neither I nor my current partner are Neptunian individuals, but in our synastry we both have our Neptunes squaring each other's Sun (in my case) and Moon (in his case). Our composite has Neptune in 1st House conjunct Venus in Sagittarius, making harmonious aspects only. In our case, I think it has manifested itself in the form of us having to go through mutual losses (supporting each other during death & sickness of family members) and also waiting a long time for immigration issues to be sorted out before actually being able to be together. With him, I also started enjoying wine and he resumed his singing hobby that he had quit for years. We also swim a lot together and travel almost only to places close to the sea.
@@immortalhygieneI second this Q lol
They were only established in a separate dream universe
@@celesteeeeeeeeeeeeeee Married and going strong, still swimming a lot and changing continents soon ;)
so you talked about the negative aspects but what about the trines or sextles what are those like
I'd like to know as well. I have a lot of neptune with someone but the majority of it is super positive
@@friendship6668 The projections you do are actually good for both of you, they fuel your relationship, you are only experimenting the unconditional love side, not the deceptive one.
so my feeling is that neptune partners show up in areas that we on some level still need an illusion for. (this is from my very limited experience) but, i say this cause when neptune has shown up has often been when my life was at very low points and it in a sense saved me at the time when I needed some illusion/ some sense of magic to keep going.
Same for me !!
This is great when you also have your Venus in Pisces. Double wammy
my sun was conjunct their Neptune,and they have Venus in Pisces, which squared my sun.Oh wow, I have been robbed, triple whammy. And I am drained. Total deception.
Josh Duda Venus is exalted in Pisces according to astrologers.That should be good news
@@tlhorn9I have had friends with Venus in Pisces, and some strangers, who took advantage of the state of vulnerability to abuse their friends, they are people without control and very manipulative in their youth, and I knew a case where the man wanted to involve a third person young man to his "marriage". They do many things of questionable morality, and they passively or gently overstep your limits.
Wow, robbed is the exact right word.
A two sided Neptune aspect on each side here, and she is 12th house dominant and Pisces Venus. I will run a mile next time, CONFUSION CONFUSION CONFUSION, completely destabalising and exhausting.
My Mum and Dad’s Neptune squares my Venus which is my ascendant Sun and Mercury ruler and Mars which is my 7th house ruler. It’s interesting that for all three of us we have our Neptune inconjunct Venus. I noticed that whatever hard aspects I have with my parents and step parents is reflected in my own chart and in my synastry aspects with others, Hard aspects and planets are here to teach us . I won’t run away anymore .
~ Fantastic summary of Neptunian relationships! :)
I am the neptunian person and I always wanted the other person to see me for who I am. I never lied, I always told everything about me and kept it real. And I also never thought this person was the 'one' - in fact, there is a lot of options that that person does that I simply do not follow because they are not for me.
Now... I cannot answer for them, unfortunately. Since their sun and venus are opposite my Neptune, maybe they are a cheater and I have no idea. Or maybe they are idealizing me - despite the fact that I fight the idealization every day - and I also have no idea because they are not telling.
The oppositing are only in the synastry and not on the composite, though. In the composite there are not opposites nor squares to Neptune. In synastry is enough though. Since I hate Neptune so much it made me sad to see it opposite the other person's sun and Venus. It is what it is, though.
That's interesting. I have Saturn squaring his sun so I never thought the Neptune person was the one because I always found something wrong with him lol it in turn made him very deceptive and hide to keep trying to get me to see him a certain way. I always felt attached to him until I found out what he hid. He felt vulnerable to my Saturn and wanted out lol one of the only times I've loved Saturn lol
Her Venus is opposing my Neptune and I am super honest and interested in the reality like you in your description. I have no idea if she is idealizing me, at least I am not idealizing her or the relationship. But I do have to admit that I sometimes have problems to stick to my boundaries with her, whereas I have no problems with boundaries towards other people.
I am the Venus in my relationship with 2 people... Your comment is really interesting for me, because I feel like it is something that I must really work on everyday : try and see the other clearly, as a human being, and not some God that can fullfill all of my desires/needs. It is really hard for us. But if we have the will and the emotional intelligence to see what needs to be worked on, we can focus on that. Maybe you can talk about it with you partner, it would actually make a lot of sense for them, maybe it would help a lot. Because I didn't know, before learning about astrology, that I had this issue. The Neptunian fog can have a really strong influence on us.
I always love your videos, Jewel. Thank you as always. Please keep it up. You're my favorite astrologer on UA-cam.
Mmmm he lied and hid a lot. The only reason it wasn't entirely self deception was because my Saturn squared his sun so there was a constant reality check 😂 there was always that ethereal feeling though until some point. That's why I love Saturn sometimes.
When I found out the truth about what he hid and lied about he wanted out lol because he couldn't deceive me any more lol he was having a hard Saturn transit during that time.
Saturn has saved me from a lot of trouble with that one lol
Well put
Your explanation makes so much sense in my confusion. I have natal Neptune on my descendant and I'm always afraid I'm dellusional in relationships. But then the composite and synastry always involve Neptune enhanced, so it's not just me. This one guy has his Saturn opposite my Neptune and in the composite we have Sun opposite the Neptune/Mars conjunction. Big time confusion for the both of us!
I think I’ll need a reading from you. My Neptune is exactly conjunct his Venus and his Neptune is right on my Mercury...
Yes.. extremely hard to be rational. I started dating this guy last week. My Neptune is conjunct his sun and his Neptune is opposite my sun. Right now we believe that that we are perfect for each other and ready to be together. Even though I know this is ridiculous, it’s hard to stop
How does Neptune effect the sun person? Talking about the conjunction and what if it’s only going one way and not a double whammy
Umm...disaster updates ?
@@veryintelligentsmartperson Ha… We are still together. It has not evolved much, but still under the spell. I’m going through a heavy Neptune transit right now so assuming I will know the results of everything in early 2023
@@askmahogany649 update?! 😅
lol I love you so much, i used to think it was a plutonic relationship but I think it is more neptunian than plutonic. It can be both because there is also prominent pluto. My sun, venus, jupiter and mercury falls in his 12th house in synastry. And there are trines and sextiles to personal planets in synastry. Neptune conjunct Jupiter in synastry. And composite neptune conjunct uranus, saturn, mars and trine moon.
I’m in one of these right now. It’s such a wonderful relationship and you’re right, I’m totally hooked!! I was hooked on week three lol. We have some small wonderful placements in composite + 1 essential grounding placement in composite but wow - I can definitely see the themes of self delusion and some others you had listed. We have some nasty Neptune in addition to me having nasty Neptune placements in my natal. I’ve really appreciated that your videos have brought me down to earth! Although I don’t LOVE that these aspects are challenging, I’m so grateful for the awareness. You are amazing - thank you!
How did this work out?
That was so discriptive _ "What could be" is what Neptunians are all about! (Same as Hollywood, the perfect love you become addicted to the illusion, same as drugs..)
Good explanation, thx Jewel!
what about a moon in Pisces...does it complicate this ?
had my moon square their neptune and my neptune trine their moon. and although the relationship dissolved into the air..my love for them still remains because it was a spiritual connection.
I had this double whammy with someone as well & same. I still miss them even though the smoke cleared.
It was sooooooo perfect until yesterday. A true fairytale that came crashing down after 5 weeks. I found out he was hooked on pills and was lying about it a lot. A true addict who hides is SOOOOO well and is successful. I kicked him out. It’s so hard but all his 12th house placements in sun, moon, and mercury. That’s a hard life. The rest is basically 8th house too. I gotta get out now. Felt so hard like a soulmate at first.
Story of my life but I'm not usually the one being infatuated. Neptune/venus Scorpio in 12 house with moon in 8th. Worst is being with a Pluto/venus conj my mars and jupiter.
Had worse heartbreak 3 years ago and im the sun person while he was neptune. I still can't get over it because he promised soo much that it is till hard to realize that he was lying. Its so damn hurtful. And yet it seems like i keep attracting same kind of relationships. I starting researching on this neptune thing and found your description spot on. (i am a capricorn zodiac and he was virgo) and i realize that it was also me getting blinded and failing to see why it was never going to work.
Since Neptune squares Mars in my Natal chart, and Neptune moves so slowly, most people in my generation will also square my Mars with their Neptune. Clearly this is an issue I will most likely have to overcome on a personal level (and may find relief from in the composite chart) - do you have any recommendations on how to approach this? I really appreciate your grounded approach to relationships.
+Grace Lewis Dating outside your generation is really the only option to dealing with this in synastry. The strength and difficulty of it will be helped or hampered by how you are dealing it in your own character. All you can do is work on you. That's all any of us should be doing anyway.
excellent description xx
I had met somebody and he gave me his birth time we have a really strong connection we talked about marriage and babies right away like.......immediately. We have lots of lots and lots of Pluto in our synastry and lots of Neptune. Mostly sextiles, trines and conjunctions a few tough square and oppositions most the chart looks good. But this mental obsession needs to stop.
It can work very well if the people involved are conscious and grounded, then it's a good thing to have in an otherwise harsh world, for instance. Very compassionate.
I have moon conjunct his north node in the 7ty house. A lot of positive aspects in synastry, as well as Pluto. But his Neptune is on my north node in my first house.
We have lots of positve and negative neptune and pluto aspects both in synastry and composite. but here's a thought: what if we have a trine and sextile between neptune and saturn in the synastry, does it help balance the illusion factor and keep it in check? Also, there's a huge age gap between us, does it translate that way?
I often wonder what to do in these type situations. Do you completely cut out a person who you share these aspects with - When you can pick up on this energy that is actually prohibiting you personally but is so sweet - Or do you see it through to the bitter end. Only to be drawn in by the illusion again at some point in the future.
This is a great question???
Don't forget that Neptune projections can also be bad. You can also hate someone and project evil intentions onto them, when in reality it is not the case at all, and the person is really good and genuine with you. With Neptunian relationship, we need to proceed carefully and not go to extremes. That's what is the most difficult. It can also be seeing the other as "all bad", when in reality the other is just a human being trying to do what he can. I think it can work out, if both people are with good intentions and healthy. Idealizing someone is not that bad, when the other truly and genuinely loves you. But it is a constant work on yourself, to try and see the partner clearly. But in my opinion it's not that bad, especially if you have Neptune aspect natally. Then, it feels more familiar and less threatening, as it is something you deal with on your own, so it's easier to navigate the relationship. Actually what scares me the most is Pluto aspects. Too much intensity... We feel like we are destroyed somehow by the relationship, and it feels not that great. Whereas Neptune is just a weird vibe that you can learn to surf on.
My sun, moon, mercury is in Capricorn. I will connect to Neptune of everybody I meet 🤣
Wow this is so real I have sun, mercury, Jupiter in Capricorn so there’s an entire generation of ppl that I’ll have these kinds of issues with 😢😢😢😢
Omg I have Neptune and Jupiter in Capricorn I've met capricons and they were too much @@skj4559
Yes, but what can you do? Some experiences are meant to be. I am in One of those, i have already started to be in the delusional parte, since i have already started to focus some aspects of him i dont really like and mostly i am not able to cope with. And this is my sucking it up part. I no longer see any "perfection". I find myself struggling because, still, there is a good part in him, and mostly i find it impossibile to break, at least willingly, the emotional bond ( in sinastry his NN is exactly conjunct my moon). Maybe there is a lesson se can learn here. When the expectations are over we can still work with what sas remained, and this can be who really se have in front and mostly who we really are. What do you think?
Really nice way to think about it. I connected with someone immediately but our chart is heavily neptunian but I can’t stop the connection so maybe i shouldn’t run away from it just because of the chart but maybe I should just stop myself from creating high expectations and also make room for being disappointed, that way I can eventually get to see him for who he really is and then I can really decide if I wanna pursue or not
Thank u . This was vry informative. God bless
I have my God damn venus and sun in ascendant and my uranus and neptune in descendant...moon conjunct pluto in the 5th...the relationship i attract has all these planets in conjunction or opposite or trine with either partner's personal planets or my personal planets are in aspect to their outer planets...wtf i can do to have healthy relationship?
We have Neptune conjunct Neptune in synastry as well as many other Neptune aspects and it feels like death to let go but, a total mess when together. It's been going on for years. We also have A lot of aspects in the NN and SN 😫😫😫 its madness.
Hi for future reference Jewel break down in block it wil be much more easy to listen you. I have neptune trine venus in 7 house that why i came to listening tank you for your time to make this :)
Uh oh… My Neptune aspects every planet in his chart except for his Neptune and his Neptune conjunct my Uranus, Trines my Asc … he is my best friend tho, and there’s an enduring quality now that we’re in year 2.
But if we’re delusional, how do we know lol ?
We have Neptune conjunct Mercury & other Neptune aspects, loose conjunction to ascendant, trines & sextiles, no squares & 1 opposition to Jupiter in synastry. neither he nor I are deceptive. I missed communication from him at an important stage of our relationship, not seeing he reached out to me & I thought he was ignoring me & I went off from that. but I apologized, he forgave me & now we just know we have to communicate clearly & make sure the other understands. we have great other aspects with sun, venus, moon, jupiter, mars & saturn. we are over 40, mature & grounded. I would only fear if we had squares. look at the whole chart, not just Neptune. we've been together 1 year.
Jewel how do you feel about my generarions neptunian influence?
With neptune in capricorn i natally have neptune conjunct mars my venus is also ib capricorn. Idk. I just feel like the neptuninan influence in synastry is a littpe outdated with my generation born 1991. No matter what someone is apways touching our neptune.
He has Mars opposite Neptune, Venus trine Neptune, Mars trine Pluto, Venus opposite Pluto. I have Venus conjunct Neptune and Venus sextile Pluto. His sun opposite my Neptune. My Pluto trine his Jupiter and his sun. His Pluto square my sun&Mars. In composite chart, Venus sextile Neptune and Venus trine Pluto, both within 1 degree. Pluto opposite Mars with 8 degree. Plutonic and Neptunian, I don't know what to do.
Thank you🌹💖wondering what his Ceres conj my Neptune means in Synastry. Also My Ceres trines his Venus.
What kind of aspects would help to possible balance out this illusion type of energy? Saturn?
Saturn can be an anchor if you are willing to do the work that is needed.
Coming out of 10 year marriage with a narcissist. His sun squared my Neptune. Both of our Mars conjunct Neptune. I also have a 12 house stellium natal ( including Venus/ Sun)
I had 2 of these back to back. One Mars square Neptune and one Sun conjunct Neptune. They were both EXACT 0 degree orbs. I was the Mars in the 1st one and Neptune in the 2nd one and both times I thought I was in love 🤦♀️
I have Venus 12H natally so I tend to attract Neptunian relationships
Who is feeling iT more the neptunian or the partners planets
I have venus conjunct a guys sun but his sun is opposite neptune.... so there's that... we have a lot of positive aspects. Like His venus conjunct my sun, my mercury conjunct his north node, jupiter, juno. my moon conjunct jupiter in his 7th, etc Unfortunately, I have pisces descendant..... I am constantly idealizing potential partners I feel compatibility with....
I love neptune in synastry. I crave it😩 signed a venus in pisces
is it a result of a Neptune conjunct another persons planet?
Jewel please do mercury square Neptune synastry
Very onesided. It depends a lot on the rest of the charts individually and together not to mention the maturity and groundedness of the people. Can be very good for earthy types, for instance. I know plenty of people having been together for years with these bindings.
Only after some months, and almost half broken, Peter Pan remembered Snowwhite had something to do with dwarves-he-never-saw, and that they both came from different fairytales..
I have Neptune conjunction my sister's ( not siblings but my uncle's daughter) neptune. We have a very funny relationship. Sometimes it flows like water and sometimes we go without talking for years😂
Me ex's Neptune falls in my 7th house.
My sun is in his 4th.
His Neptune and Uranus on my ascendant.
His Venus in my 4th.
We have a karmic relationship. When I synastry out charts, he carries the problems and this is how I always felt.
Venus is my 12th house ruler and my Venus is in pisces in the 11th house.
Neptune in the 8th house?
it just came to my attention the other day that i tend to attract a lot of people with neptune in their 1h and it conjuncts to my ascendant (my moon in the 10h is my chart ruler). i am constantly being idealized and once i show parts of myself aside from how i present myself people become disappointed when i don’t live up to their expectations. it’s tiring because i am constantly being misunderstood
Would a significant Saturn (well placed) mitigate some of the negative influence of Neptune?
Yes!! Especially if the Saturn person is the inner planet person in the neptune connection. It kept me from falling into his claws no matter how much I idealized him something wasn't right (saturn lol) and he didn't manipulate me as much because he felt like I criticized everything he did. Looking back I'm glad because he was really just trying to use me for sex and money.
What transit would most likely cause the neptunian relationship to come crashing down?
+Samantha Pfister A Neptune transit to ones natal chart. Or sometimes Pluto.
I'm looking at synastry which has exact squares of Neptune to the Moon and Sun between the two people but in their composite chart Neptune is conjunct descendant with only 'harmonious' aspects, trines and sextile to Moon, Mars, Mercury, Sun.... Wouldn't that be their saving grace?
+Tereza Plockova I have a video on Neptune conjunct the composite descendant. You may want to check that out.
Love your videos!!! very entertaining!!
I am about to enter the Neptune fog. It's not completely that way however. We have a ton of Uranus and Pluto aspects. I think where the attraction is settled is way more sexual then ether one if us would like to admit.
I agree with another person on here that age gap plays a part. I am the older person here. I am also the Neptune one, the object of desire. Still, I can feel that this other person is hot for what I represent and my body, but they don't get the real me. How can they, we just met about a month ago.
Great video! Thanks for bringing some light to the situation. I can go in with more confidence now.
Can we have a neptune conjunct pluto in synastry
I’m Neptune in so many aspects of the synastry chart I have, w a guy I’m dating.
Very very wise advice
My Neptune conjuncts his northnode. My Jupiter conjuncts his Neptune. My Neptune also conjuncts his Lilith.
🧐🧐🧐🧐
thank you
Who feels this. The neptunian or the partner. My neptune is opposite to his Venus and square to his mars.
thoughts on neptune conjunction with the partners neptune?
What if both partners have Neptune and south node in Scorpio but one in the 8th other in the 6th house AND their Neptune and Pluto both in Virgo? Obsessive much? Lol... I already know this answer. Your videos are great btw. Subscribed.
Can you do the composite opposite between Venus and Neptune
Can you make a video about the conjunction between Neptune and Chiron in synastry? Thank you!
Is there a possibility of a Neptune relationship being a good one? Such as trines and sextiles with a Saturn anchor? We have a lot of those with just one square Neptune and Moon and no conjunctions. Only one Neptune contact in composite. Neptune opp venus. To me that can indicate a 50/50 chance or less?
even if other aspects in synastry is good for love n longterm ..can neptunio themed destroy it all
+Nahla Albaba It can. It depends on the individuals and how prone they are to fantasy and escaping reality through love.
+Nahla Albaba, It also depends on each individual's consciousness (awareness). Some fantasy is needed in all relationships, but too much can be overkill.
He has his natal Juno in 3rd house in aquarius falls into my 1st house and it's exactly conjunct my Neptune what that's mean?
:(( what should I do...
I already did! Thank God, I'm in another relationship, a healthy one this time :)
I did learn a lot in my previous one tho. We had massive neptune and Pluto influence, it was very hard to forget and leave him I thought I would never be able to but I could and I learned a lot. I'm very happy now in a real relationship with a wonderful Leo man ❤️
These made me appreciate saturn synastry and saturn transits especially lol painful realizations but once you see the truth? Realistic picture? You can't go back
I have my Neptune in my Partner's 5 thouse and also my Sun trines her Neptune.
I was listening but then i stop listening and ...noticed your arms...you have wonderful muscles.
Please do mercury square neptune synastry
Why does Neptune always get a bad rep?
Because people dont understand it well enough.
My neptune falls in his 5th house which is in capricorn. Is that the same thing? I found I had a hard time trusting him in the beginning (due to past relationships) but after trying to catch him lying and all sorts it turns out he is actually very truthful. So I thought the neptune is what caused that for me. Is that the same?
How’s it going now?
It's the same. I still haven't caught him in a lie but I also stopped looking for lies. I think we both have a hard time trusting each other because of our past. But for me anyways I just take everything for face value. Until he proves me otherwise its pointless to obsess over him lying or not. Since like I said he still hasn't actually proven himself to be a liar to me.l if anything he's just proven that he isn't a liar more so.
Sun and Mercury opposite Neptune . Moon conjunction Neptune (I’m Neptune I think ) .. his Neptune in Aquarius falls in my 5th house in Aquarius . I actually just got out of a toxic relationship and I’m just so untrusting of being cheated on again . They have cheated on partners in the past and said that it was getting old .They said they wouldn’t do that to me but I have a thought in my head “once a cheater always a cheater “ . And it’s weird because they’re untrusting of me aswell because they said they don’t trust anyone at all and think I still have feelings for an ex . So I think we’re basically both having to deal with our own insecurities . I keep trying to overthink Of not trusting them but so far they have been truthful and honest .
I just hope they don’t start lying in the future .
What about this theme seen in composite chart
I've been in complete torment for the last 5 years in a relationship and we have heavy negative Neptune contacts with the moon in synastry and composite. We have a 3 year old together and the dissapointment is heartbreaking I still don't know how to let go :(
Lilac Roses god bless you, wish you luck
If I have sun moon mercury in Capricorn and neptune in Capricorn, will I have this problems with everyone? And when I read about synastry, neptune, pluto and uranus is strongly involved in my connections with people.
Yes it’s possible, it would explain why so many of my friendships and relationships have been so disappointing
Interrrrresting...🙏🏼❤️
Does this apply to ascendant conjunct neptune. (Along with mars)
Bliss. Mmmmm love it.