I have seen drivers, worked with them, 30 years experience, and they could not scale a trailer. Seriously. I have 34 years out here, and no, I am not a "super trucker", but I can scale a truck, talk to the customer and or broker and smooth things over if need be. I can drive, more aggressively due to the ELD, but pray I remain incident free. I have worked in the oil fields of North Dakota and Texas, pulled just about every trailer and load, flat bed, cars, tanker, etc... During Covid, long story, family stuff, I parked my truck. I thought for shits and giggles I would call a few outfits paying some decent money to company drivers. They were offering up to .80 a mile for a driver... Up to... The best offer I had was .55 a mile. I will leave it at that.
I talk to experienced drivers all the time and, I swear to God, half those dudes have downies. I think there are just a LOT of people in this industry who are plain stupid.
@@abctrucker8601I know that, I have worked with plenty of tankers, but we still had to scale. And every truck driver should know how to do just that. So you are saying, sliding a tandem or a fifth wheel is too difficult for tanker yankers?
The most experienced should get more. But there I exceptions like you might have 8 years under you but your not the sharpest thing around vs a mechanic thats is driving for you. The guy that got 7 mpg might have 2 or 3 more loads in over the slower guy. Be honest drivers should be up around .75 $ min. Rates should be $3.50 a mile. Min.
Type of experience, productivity, and safety record. Ain't stepping in a rig for less than $50USD/hr. I started as a NYC route driver; in 6 months I was at about 3 years experience. At 5 years, I was a 30-year vet. About 6 years ago I saw the industry bringing in tech to augment bad drivers rather than pay better drivers more; Jumped then. $50/hr every hour or you can hire some gear grinding load shifting curb popping turd that cant articulate the city, inclimate weather, or people. The more technical the job, the better off you are. Gotta stay ahead of the tech curve.
Oddly enough, my company no longer recognizes "senior aka experienced drivers" for whatever reasons, which of course has led to strange managment descision making. For example, Several older trucks were repainted and looked brand new after being painted. Management decided that the new drivers, the rookies, those with just a few weeks experience, get the newly paitned trucks. Within just a few weeks those new drivers destroyed the new paint and the trucks looked worse than before they we're painted.
I have been trucking since 1974. I remember decompression to fire up my diesel, kill switch and emergency kill switches. No one in trucking pays for experience, lip service is not even given. Today it is automatic transmission because companies do not care about the trucker. My 18 speed out preform the automatics and gives me better mpg. No I do "not" think in metrics as everything is imperial in long haul. Trucking is a fantastic career.
The experience matters most first few years, and from there its totally up to the driver's personality on which level he wants to do it. Once they learned the ropes, proved they are safe then it all gets down to his productivity. If I have 2 drivers, both safe, one with 20 years experience and another one with 3 years but more productive I will choose the more productive one each time, over the one with more years and still not being productive.
Productive, that is the bottom line. Does it matter if he pisses off a customer now and then, or gets a ticket now and then? Or is your other driver just going through the motions because he realizes he is in a dead end job? Seriously.
Sombody ses... LOVE DOESNT MEAN TIME ... In my litle opinión , milles makes good drivers , and if they were many years swolowing milles, makes them great...
@FernandoFlores-vr7ze It's actually a different subject. In my opinion, a good driver should be able to accidentally free, but I will not argue the fact that anything can happen and you can not predict everything . Deer, stupid drivers, unpredictable road conditions. I myself was driving bobtail in Winnipeg in the winter. The weather was good and the road was perfect. I lost control when I was making a turn. What happened is some pipe burst and there was a water leak on the road. It became a clear ice, and I didn't expect it.
I like the flat rate scenario with bonuses for mileage ,miles,safety etc and having more/higher security clearances gives the company more options for higher value loads like ports and the dept of defense
All drivers should be getting paid by the hour. We are basically punching a time clock now with ELD's, you punch in and you only have so much time to work now and no freedom to do anything else like the old days. Plus twice as much traffic on top of that and need more time to find a place to park at the end of the night. Lets not forget to mention that most loads now are either really short hauls or like driving regional, basically the good old days of long haul runs are far and few between so with all these short haul loads you end up waisting hours of your day unloading and loading all for free with this average free two hour wait time. Most drivers a good days pay is when you basically can get eleven hours drive time and gave away 4 hours of wait time so you average a 14 hour day but end up giving 4 hours everyday for free. Drivers ever wonder why after two hours they are only willing to 15 a hour and some companies even pro-rate that time after two hours, so if your waiting two an a half hours they will only give you $7 dollars for that two a a half hours. But in order for us to make it worth are while to be out there all week we like fools will work 14 hour days to get are 11 hours of drive time. because were only really getting paid for what we drive, not the time we are actually working. A average good day of driving is roughly 500 miles a day (not talking mid west driving) but north east, so at .65 a mile that come up to .65* 500= $325 for the day divide by 14 hours you end up making $23.21 a hour. Sounds like a great days pay right ,so why do most companies on pay $15 a hour four detention time after two hours an only up to so much. Well lets look if you had a normal job making $18 a hour after 8 hour of work you would be paid $144.oo for the day noe throe in another 6 hour to get you up to the 14 hours a day most drivers work , plus at a normall job that is overtime pay so that would bring you up $27 a hour so $27*6=$162 plus $144 =$306.00 for the day, and they get to go home at noght and not have to throw away $25.00 a night at a truck stop eating. So at .65 cents a mile wich is good or even better than most OTR companies pay the average driver is basically making $18 dollars a hour after all is said and done and most are really making $15 a hour that is why most companies will only give $15 a hour after two hours detention time. Companies have it all figured out, it's just drivers haven't figured it out yet.Companies throw in all this milage pay , detention time, saftey bonus ,idle time to just confuse the pay situation so drivers really have a hard time what they are actually getting paid a hour. Because after you boil everything done and figure all tour time and work and divide that into your gross pay you will come up with a per hour rate no matter how your paid, and with ELD's there is no getting ahead and no freedom anymore. the old days they could say they don't know if the sriver was working because they didn't have tracking abilities and live camera and ELD to know if truck was moving , now they do. So the old way of paying should have went away with ELD and hourly pay and time an a half should have started. they will say they will cut you off from driving after 40 hours not to pay time an a half, but how many drivers would take a job at $15 a hour for 40 hours and stay on the road? Very few so pay per hour would have to go up so you would end up making same amount in 40 hours as it takes you to make in 70 hours . I don't know about you but if they would want to cut me off after 40 hours and I still took home as much for the week I would call that a win. But who are we kidding they would never cut you off at 40 so in reality you will bring home a pay that would be worth being on the road.
Performance based bonuses, to me, are the way to go. I don’t care how many years someone’s been driving. If a veteran driver gets outperformed by a rookie, the rookie’s getting the bonus.
It's easy. Just reverse the situation. Two companies, one pays $0.1/ mile less, but... 1. They are more organized. 2. They have regular loads. 3. They have amazing dispatch. 4. They have more miles. 5. They respect your time. 6. Company has perfect sms score. (Bypass all the way) 7. You can shake hands with the owner. Will you work for a cheaper company for the benefits?
The other problem with the "up to" statement is some companies use it to get drivers to apply, but were never planning on paying it in the first place!
My whole company pays everyone the same mileage only difference is how much miles you can put in. If you want to make more you'll have to get out of van work and into higher paying positions you qualify for with experience
1. Experience should mean something, as should longevity with a company and other things. 2. More miles already gets him more money 3. Having a fuel economy incentive bonus is a great idea 4. Again experience, good experience, should count for something. It does in other industries. Maybe not a lot but a half a cent per mile adds up.
I prefer to be leased onto a company so I can make my own decisions on what will be more profitable. A company driver can only hope for as many easy miles as they can get and what usually happens is they get the runs that owner ops/lease ops turn down.
I would not work for a company that has company drivers as a lease op, been there, and done that. A buddy of mine is in the flux, I am selling him my truck... He is driving a company owned truck, long story, he sold his truck due to mechanical issues. Funny thing is, seeing as he is driving one of the owners trucks, he is seeing the true picture. Something I saw a long time ago.
Ronen, both run the same routes, but do both run the same cargo. If the one running 9 miles per gallon is running loads that pay a little less and the other does loads that pay better, then yes, the 1 with lower miles should get paid the same, but if the driver with more miles is getting better load rates should get better. I believe in the percentage rate of pay, if a driver is driving more loads at a higher rate, he/she should get better pay.
Yes, experienced matters! But, this thing is not my real concern at all, from My rookie days, My first complaint about the trucking industry is about not getting compensated of being away from home for a week. I always expressed it, and being so vocal to all my fellow trucker’s, that I am hoping someday, the time will come that our sleeper birth should be paid hourly, accordingly based on what the minimum wages is. I remember, we got stuck in 28cents per mile for so long for experienced drivers, and to 30cents until now in team drivers. Let alone they will only pay it in pc miles. So, there’s no difference of a 2cent increase at all. In today’s cost of living. Team driving should be paid not less than 80cents per mile. But in todays trucking industry, where it’s heading right now, it doesn’t matter to them. There’s no shortage of drivers like they are telling us! It’s all a lie. Driver’s are just bouncing all over the company, until they find a good one. Thymey just come and go. And the worst part is that trucker’s doesn’t even have health benefits at all. Yeah company offer you, but you need to pay a lot more to have one if you want. Today’s driver is about quantity and not quality driver. Big carrier doesn’t care. All that matters to them is that, as long as they’re unit are moving and knowing that they 50-60 drivers in line waiting for open spot. Their good! They plug their ears to not hear any complaints from their drivers, suggestions or recommendations for the betterment. It’s like, if you can’t take it, there’s the door open for you to leave, and open for next driver for your replacement. Truckers nowadays are not fairly treated. It’s so obvious, because the way they only pay Us peanuts. I hope someday, Trucker’s will be paid for their sleeper birth. Call me stupid or crazy dreaming of it. For all I can say, is that here in Canada, we pay for everything to live. Nothing is free here. And so, our sacrifices of being away for a week not seeing our love ones. It’s so obvious that even we are at the bunk sleeping, we are literally working. 24hours a day m, every single day that we are away from home. Last year I decided to hang my keys. After finding out that even my Dream Job in the car hauling is not worthy of my service, dedication and hardwork. That industry as well is not looking good. So, I made this tough decision. To just find a job local, get a 9-5 job. Get back in normal life. Living home in the morning, and going home on the same day! I’m still trying to get use to this routine until now. Because, my love on the road still telling me to go back to do it again. But, everytime I remember that peanut pay in the industry , I can’t help to just turn my mood back into having a feeling of distastefulness of getting underpaid.
Wow this hit really deep... Thank you for sharing your story, and I sincerely hope that our actions will someday lead to a reformation of trucking back to its peak and then beyond it.
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Yes and Thank You, for having this kind of platform, being the voice of both sides, the industry and the Trucker’s. Educating people, giving proper information, for them to have a better understanding about what is really going on in the industry, for We all coming on the same page. For all I can say, everything that I have expressed was a genuine concern, and honest opinion, that comes from my own experienced, learned about the situation through years being a Trucker, hold my thoughts for years, and never talk about it to any people who’s outside the industry, for I know that one thing for sure, they will never understand, and can never relate in everything that I say, I only expressed it with our fellow Truckers a thousand times for so long, to why we let this happen, to let Us treat this way. And everytime I say that why can’t we do something about it? Let our voice be heard? Asking is there a proper place to let it be taken care of. You know what their response to me? “Oh our job is too much for us”already “, I need to pay my bills”, I have a lot problems “, I need to focus to get more trips, “I need this job”, etc. You know Us being on this job, as a Trucker, our hands are always full, “TIME” is our common enemy. Time is not our friend. So, I can’t insert some attention for that matter, as long as I got a paycheque. It’s all good! “Let’s just wait for a miracle”, 🙄 or wait something good to happen? And as long we can take it, endure it, just hope someday will see a favourable changes, if not, the next option os to quit and change a career. Which happened to me. I did Team driving for so many years, the reason behind it, is that I figured it out that, it is less time consuming, and efforts, and found and joined a company that do dry loads, and autoparts, having a drop and hook runs, it gives less preparation for everything, and hit that reset on the weekend, and atleast to enjoy one day for myself, with my love ones, do some laundry and groceries, prepare food, good for a week. Leave after the reset and repeat the cycle, rather than doing a single run, bouncing back and forth at the border, not wanting to experience hell at the border.(you know what I’m talking about the border right?.) lol, and this time around we are experiencing the worst traffic that happened in our life in Ontario, East Side, West Side it’s always rush hour, this excruciating traffic that contributes lot of fatigue and stress! Plus at this moment in time, I never experienced this if you didn’t make in time to park in any truck stop, truck parking, you will be ending to park somewhere that no one wish to park. So, That’s why I rather cross the border twice in a week, rather than experience the border and traffic in 401, every single day. I only decided to do single when I got the opportunity to get in the Car Hauling Industry. and that’s the moment I ended up experiencing what I am avoiding for so long. Hell of both worlds! The 401 and the crossing the border. Yeah, in the end, it’s just a way for Us Trucker’s way of benting our major concerns, accepting that fact that no matter how we feel, what we endure, live with the suffering of knowing not being valued, who’s a type of hardworking people, getting paid peanuts, getting less and less, feeling unappreciated all the time, but who has a big contribution to the economy. Brings food in the table, the lone worker behind the curtain, the profesion who is the backbone of the economy. The Trucker’s is the one who run the show in the economy. And I am proud to say that. It’s not just I got a million miles on me, it includes the a million of lbs. of goods that I moved back and forth that contributed that contributed the needs of the society. Sometimes, when I pick up some merchandise in the grocery, the items, the products, the brands that I remember I hauled it coming from the west coast a 5thousand miles away, and it get’s there, because of Us. But, seeing the society not being educated of our contribution, always makes me feel unhappy, let alone knowing that, I am unhappy getting paid less of hauling those goods. But, I can’t help to be proud for the job that I do. Anyways,I really appreciate your kind response, I’m just trying to take out, even for now I decided to work a 9-5 job. I know this voice of mine maybe can’t make a dent to whom it may concern, to whom that may have a force, a power, a authority to help to repair this industry to turn it’s course in the right direction, to move forward for the betterment, and especially for the sake of the hardworking Trucker’s. I don’t care less if they call me stupid or saying nonsense. It’s just sometimes, We need to speak it out. Maybe it’s really needed to let them know. That Trucker’s are not robots, Trucker’s have done so much for all of Us. If local minimum wage got some couple of increase for a couple only of years, why can’t they take a look about the Trucker’s well being, are Trucker’s getting the right pay? Or there’s something that needed to be done. Is time spent away home for days really “FREE “??? Or there’s a way to make worthit. Anyways, thanks again. For I will never do this kind of giving My CENTS of thoughts ever again. Because, this is never a type of person I am. So, PEACE OUT. ✌🏼 ☮️ ☮️ God Bless Truckers and keep safe on the road.
Having identical truck doesn't mean having the same MPG. Maybe one driver consistently hauling heavy load and going west over the mountains and against the wind.
The company that I drove for for 21yrs based the pay and bonuses on a few different factors, one of which was idle time (this was before apu's), the company would constantly ride drivers about their idle-time, especially when it got above 30%. I'd have extra blankets in the winter and multiple fans in the summer, I'd definitely Piss the other drivers off that had higher idle times as they'd have 40-50+% idle time and I'd be under 10%.
Very interesting, I look at it from the drivers point of view. I think about how fast truck goes, down time, stuff that makes me productive. I have 27 years and clean record I make 55 cpm but I run 12000 plus a month and drop and hook 75 % of time, can park at most customers and my average unload, load time is about an hour. Very Very rare will I ever not reload the same day I unload.. I drive for wiley sanders van division out of Alabama. I do however work 7 days a week by choice. I like your videos and I wish I made 65 cpm here but if I went somewhere else to get 65 how much would it cost me lol . Plus because I don't have issues like ripping off trailer doors or being home every other day I get to run lanes I like. Make a video from drivers perspective I'm. Curious if I'm missing something. Bonuses, vacation, insurance and equipment for sure but most companies are about same. My desire to be productive is my main goal. I don't get paid by hour so I'm not babysitting a trailer. I want to be rolling
S3. Totally completely agreed with. My company was talking about driver idle so I worked on it. Went from 23% to 1.4% but we don't get a increase or bouns for the effort
Scenario #4 - neither driver is EVER going to know what the other's exact qualifications are and they should never know what anyone else is getting paid. I've hired and fired hundreds of employees and have had multiple people in the same position, different shift. They won't all make the same amount. If you as an employer want to pay driver with the best driving record more money, then that's your prerogative. Or maybe he's demanding it and you don't want to lose the guy.
Hired and fired hundreds of people? You suck at hiring... any good owner will tell you having to fire someone is your fault... And employees should absolutely discuss pay with each other and it's their legal federal right to do so.
The 65 cent a mile is fine. That being said have a company standard on performance. A set mount of miles and pay 5 cents more same with fuel. The 5 cents more on all miles . I get 30 percent after 20 grand I get 32 percent for all my revenue plus a quarterly bonus. That's based off fuel. I also pick my own loads. That's 30 percent of a hundred . I drive my old truck that I sold him and work with the same agents I did when I owned the truck and trailer. After 22 years as a o/o and a trip to the hospital I was done owning trucks.
I was training guys with zero experience getting paid more than i was they want to attract new guys but end up losing experienced employee's for a tricky kinda truck job. b-train flat bed tarped over 12 drops a day.
Same pay top pay for everyone please Plus additional bonus for each year of experience, so the years of experience will be on additional bonus, fair enough
1st, I believe truck driver should get paid by 50/50 after diesel and DAF so you will have no problem to dispatch a trip, fuel efficiency, punctuality etc if someone is more responsible will make more money or vice versa ----- Scenario 1 Both are supposed to get paid the same because if someone has a good driving record, he will be making more money due to no violations, losing any time for repair or fines etc another reason there is no guarantee that 8.5 years experience guy is more safe than 2.5 years guy but it is just assumptions. ---- 2nd scenario: If they set up for 50/50 after diesel and DAF then company makes money out of drivers luck and draw so you never worry any thing but if you don't like a driver (he not beneficial) then take him out because trucking is not for him or your company is not suitable for him. 2nd option: if you go by milage like you are looking at right now I will never set any target for how much a driver supposed to drive milage because it is like personal issue but if you don't like him mean he is not driving for minimum milage then take him out. ------- 3rd scenario If you set up to pay your driver 50/50 by percentage after diesel and DAF then it should not be issue because he loses money too and you getting paid by his luck and draw. But going by milage you should have minimum limits for affordability. Once a driver pass it then you need to kick him out. ----- 4th scenario Going by limits, you want to keep (hire) him or not but nothing to pay extra because if someone has good driving record then he already getting benefit out of it. --++ Last or final conclusion No doubt, if someone work hard, clean driving, save fuel, maintenance etc he or she desire some bounce at the end of year, or some paid days off to compensate. Or just have fuel card, gift card some things.
#1 experience should pay, granted it's been safe and low violations. #2 a driver making x per mile and drives more miles already makes more. #3 a driver taking care of the companys experiences, and stresses on the equipment, should have rewards, not bonuses, a "thank you reward",$$$.
When i put myself in a position to make money, the dispatcher would have me do short hauls, or city work that would make the company money but not me. Do a video on all they ways a company cheats the driver. The pay per mile is obsolete. Its the biggest scam there is. 65 cpm per mile in Atlanta. That's gross 1200 dollars. You have to offer me 1800 a week. You say jump.. I say...how high
From 2.5 years of experience their should be not differences in payment . The difference should always be with those under 2 years as they cost more in insurance
Scenario 1: Driving a big truck is not that difficult if you have any talent for equipment at all. Two years vs eight years for the garden variety OTR door swinger should be equal. If that more experienced driver wants more $, he/she needs to put their skills to use in a more demanding or risky environment like flatbedding, hazmat, oversize, oilfield etc. Or….. Chicagoland traffic!
@@onebadapple83 you said driving a big truck is not that difficult but some people can’t drive a 18 wheeler so not everybody can’t drive a 18 wheeler also let’s say when a driver get into a sticky situation like being in a wrong street and can’t turn because the street is so small. Plus having no violations on the driving record is good because that drivers are safer he/she know what he doing also that driver have a lot a miles under his belt. Let’s say at a new driver place they never been to before they don’t know how to get their so that why I said not everybody can drive a 18 wheeler.
I live in my truck as a company driver the first 2 scenarios i kill the 3rd i could care less get a apu then i have years of experience over a million miles experience even doing better from bouncing around was with my last job almost 3yrs small ding and the previous bouncing and im not worth more
I Drive for marten transportation, and they screwing my paycheck every week my DM to HR I take home $1100 or less a week and I’m out 2 to 3 weeks if not 4 And been with them 2 years and sick and tired with lousy pay and Running hard
Umm why are you still working for them? If they can't get their crap together and you have a clean record and are a respectable driver, look for a carrier that has a reputation of being a good carrier to work for and hightail it! No driver should lose wages for a carriers incompetence! Let me make it clear..... RUN, DONT WALK!
Im just trying to get experience in general😅.. got my liscense month and week ago and still cant land a job in the gta toronto area.. definitely getting discouraged asf.. any tips yall?
You are paying .65 CPM, but I was shocked to see your paying company drivers only by 1099. I would like to know why you chose to pay that way. 1099 for company drivers is just wrong. It should be reserved for LP or OOps. I was trying to get hired on with your Atlanta site, but was detoured when I was told that.
No. Expierence is worth something. Anything open deck or specialized freight should be paid more. Anybody can swing doors. Not anybody can haul 120’ long steel that’s 12’6” wide, properly secure it flag, right banners and follow the permits. Or wide stuff, lowboy, heavy haul etc.
They should have a comprehensive test that has all the things that can happen to the truck and load. The guy with 23 years should have no problems with it. Seen lots of 10 years or less guys that don't know shit besides hammer down.
Truckers with the skills and those that follow best practices should be paid at a competitive rate with 1+ experience. If a company requires me to be with them for 5 years before I'm paid my value then I'll just leave for a new company.
That’s why I like companies that offer performance pay. You get what you put in. Anyone that says all truck drivers should get paid the same are entitled brats
Scenario number 3 doesn't matter to me. Because that just boils down to driving hibbit can be as simple as one uses cruise control more then other or starting and stopping. scenario number one a guy with a little more experience should get a little bit more. Scenario number 2. Now the guy thats putting more miles should get more money than the guy, That's putting in less because he's making a company more money, so the company should Reward the guy putting in more miles cause the company getting more money because he can haul more loads. I'm not saying ton more, but even 5 to 7 cents more a mile should be his reward he is working harder, obviously and should get payed for his work. Scenario number 4 I think they should start the same. But at end of the day? The person putting in more miles should always get more money
#1. More experience should mean more pay, but say $0.03/mi more for the 8 years of experience is laughable.... 3% more per year at the minimum. You want experience? Pay for experience... that example would mean the 8 years of experience would start at 75cpm and 2 years starts at your starting 65cpm. Or do monetary bonuses that actually equal something. $500 to save you 10x that amount? Na, pay me to care, otherwise I dont care about your bottom line.🤷
1. Experience absolutely matters, long time drivers are on average safer, receive fewer violations, and are on time more often. 2. Fuel efficiency is situational. I drive in the western states and it's all up and down. I have optimized idle, so unless there's a good reason, I don't idle my truck. I've always averaged 7mpg. There's no improving it. I think my fleet has things right. They use a pay scale based on tenure. Personally, I survived the first five years where I learned my trade and am now a competent driver. Now that I've reached a decade, I want to get paid 😁
Well said sir. Problem is, we are a dime a dozen, good or bad, just look around. 34 years out here, this used to be a good profession, now it is PJ's and flip flops, and folks that cannot even speak English, and no one cares. Just get the freight there.
i think experince drivers shoukd be poaid better,,,, BUT all truckers should be paid better so none of them needs to feel like they have to rush and over work themselves to death
Your expenses on running the businesses don’t have anything todo with the driver, besides you making $ you still want to make even more, that is the cost of running business. Also that kind of pennies pinching bs is not going to end regardless driver saves you the month $, you will still be greedy
Let's get real here, drivers are getting screwed. The industry is full of bad companies. There should be an hourly rate same pay for the same work and this would also reduce accidents. The industry has to be cleaned up. We are never going to get anywhere until all drivers are paid equally across the board. If you are not a truck driver please heed this warning stay away, this is a very toxic environment very little backing for drivers and the responsibilities are endless.
Honestly we should get paid just like most of the world hourly and overtime sick leave vacation and all that stuff
I have seen drivers, worked with them, 30 years experience, and they could not scale a trailer. Seriously. I have 34 years out here, and no, I am not a "super trucker", but I can scale a truck, talk to the customer and or broker and smooth things over if need be. I can drive, more aggressively due to the ELD, but pray I remain incident free. I have worked in the oil fields of North Dakota and Texas, pulled just about every trailer and load, flat bed, cars, tanker, etc... During Covid, long story, family stuff, I parked my truck. I thought for shits and giggles I would call a few outfits paying some decent money to company drivers. They were offering up to .80 a mile for a driver... Up to... The best offer I had was .55 a mile. I will leave it at that.
Not all drivers needed to know how to scale a trailer. For example I do chemical tanker work. The trailer axel is fixed. It doesn’t move.
I talk to experienced drivers all the time and, I swear to God, half those dudes have downies.
I think there are just a LOT of people in this industry who are plain stupid.
@@abctrucker8601I know that, I have worked with plenty of tankers, but we still had to scale. And every truck driver should know how to do just that. So you are saying, sliding a tandem or a fifth wheel is too difficult for tanker yankers?
@@michaelwright1602 apparently he is lol
The most experienced should get more. But there I exceptions like you might have 8 years under you but your not the sharpest thing around vs a mechanic thats is driving for you. The guy that got 7 mpg might have 2 or 3 more loads in over the slower guy. Be honest drivers should be up around .75 $ min. Rates should be $3.50 a mile. Min.
Type of experience, productivity, and safety record. Ain't stepping in a rig for less than $50USD/hr. I started as a NYC route driver; in 6 months I was at about 3 years experience. At 5 years, I was a 30-year vet. About 6 years ago I saw the industry bringing in tech to augment bad drivers rather than pay better drivers more; Jumped then. $50/hr every hour or you can hire some gear grinding load shifting curb popping turd that cant articulate the city, inclimate weather, or people. The more technical the job, the better off you are. Gotta stay ahead of the tech curve.
Oddly enough, my company no longer recognizes "senior aka experienced drivers" for whatever reasons, which of course has led to strange managment descision making. For example, Several older trucks were repainted and looked brand new after being painted. Management decided that the new drivers, the rookies, those with just a few weeks experience, get the newly paitned trucks. Within just a few weeks those new drivers destroyed the new paint and the trucks looked worse than before they we're painted.
I have been trucking since 1974. I remember decompression to fire up my diesel, kill switch and emergency kill switches. No one in trucking pays for experience, lip service is not even given.
Today it is automatic transmission because companies do not care about the trucker. My 18 speed out preform the automatics and gives me better mpg. No I do "not" think in metrics as everything is imperial in long haul.
Trucking is a fantastic career.
The experience matters most first few years, and from there its totally up to the driver's personality on which level he wants to do it. Once they learned the ropes, proved they are safe then it all gets down to his productivity. If I have 2 drivers, both safe, one with 20 years experience and another one with 3 years but more productive I will choose the more productive one each time, over the one with more years and still not being productive.
Productive, that is the bottom line. Does it matter if he pisses off a customer now and then, or gets a ticket now and then? Or is your other driver just going through the motions because he realizes he is in a dead end job? Seriously.
After 6 years, you can be considered a truly professional driver.
@@antonarlazarov1374... With or whitout any accident... ???
Sombody ses... LOVE DOESNT MEAN TIME ... In my litle opinión , milles makes good drivers , and if they were many years swolowing milles, makes them great...
@FernandoFlores-vr7ze
It's actually a different subject. In my opinion, a good driver should be able to accidentally free, but I will not argue the fact that anything can happen and you can not predict everything . Deer, stupid drivers, unpredictable road conditions.
I myself was driving bobtail in Winnipeg in the winter. The weather was good and the road was perfect. I lost control when I was making a turn. What happened is some pipe burst and there was a water leak on the road. It became a clear ice, and I didn't expect it.
I like the flat rate scenario with bonuses for mileage ,miles,safety etc and having more/higher security clearances gives the company more options for higher value loads like ports and the dept of defense
All drivers should be getting paid by the hour. We are basically punching a time clock now with ELD's, you punch in and you only have so much time to work now and no freedom to do anything else like the old days. Plus twice as much traffic on top of that and need more time to find a place to park at the end of the night. Lets not forget to mention that most loads now are either really short hauls or like driving regional, basically the good old days of long haul runs are far and few between so with all these short haul loads you end up waisting hours of your day unloading and loading all for free with this average free two hour wait time. Most drivers a good days pay is when you basically can get eleven hours drive time and gave away 4 hours of wait time so you average a 14 hour day but end up giving 4 hours everyday for free. Drivers ever wonder why after two hours they are only willing to 15 a hour and some companies even pro-rate that time after two hours, so if your waiting two an a half hours they will only give you $7 dollars for that two a a half hours. But in order for us to make it worth are while to be out there all week we like fools will work 14 hour days to get are 11 hours of drive time. because were only really getting paid for what we drive, not the time we are actually working. A average good day of driving is roughly 500 miles a day (not talking mid west driving) but north east, so at .65 a mile that come up to .65* 500= $325 for the day divide by 14 hours you end up making $23.21 a hour. Sounds like a great days pay right ,so why do most companies on pay $15 a hour four detention time after two hours an only up to so much. Well lets look if you had a normal job making $18 a hour after 8 hour of work you would be paid $144.oo for the day noe throe in another 6 hour to get you up to the 14 hours a day most drivers work , plus at a normall job that is overtime pay so that would bring you up $27 a hour so $27*6=$162 plus $144 =$306.00 for the day, and they get to go home at noght and not have to throw away $25.00 a night at a truck stop eating. So at .65 cents a mile wich is good or even better than most OTR companies pay the average driver is basically making $18 dollars a hour after all is said and done and most are really making $15 a hour that is why most companies will only give $15 a hour after two hours detention time. Companies have it all figured out, it's just drivers haven't figured it out yet.Companies throw in all this milage pay , detention time, saftey bonus ,idle time to just confuse the pay situation so drivers really have a hard time what they are actually getting paid a hour. Because after you boil everything done and figure all tour time and work and divide that into your gross pay you will come up with a per hour rate no matter how your paid, and with ELD's there is no getting ahead and no freedom anymore. the old days they could say they don't know if the sriver was working because they didn't have tracking abilities and live camera and ELD to know if truck was moving , now they do. So the old way of paying should have went away with ELD and hourly pay and time an a half should have started. they will say they will cut you off from driving after 40 hours not to pay time an a half, but how many drivers would take a job at $15 a hour for 40 hours and stay on the road? Very few so pay per hour would have to go up so you would end up making same amount in 40 hours as it takes you to make in 70 hours . I don't know about you but if they would want to cut me off after 40 hours and I still took home as much for the week I would call that a win. But who are we kidding they would never cut you off at 40 so in reality you will bring home a pay that would be worth being on the road.
Performance based bonuses, to me, are the way to go. I don’t care how many years someone’s been driving. If a veteran driver gets outperformed by a rookie, the rookie’s getting the bonus.
On scenario number 3 a fuel bonus would be fair to encourage better driving habits
It's easy. Just reverse the situation.
Two companies, one pays $0.1/ mile less, but...
1. They are more organized.
2. They have regular loads.
3. They have amazing dispatch.
4. They have more miles.
5. They respect your time.
6. Company has perfect sms score. (Bypass all the way)
7. You can shake hands with the owner.
Will you work for a cheaper company for the benefits?
Great Reverse Scenario
The other problem with the "up to" statement is some companies use it to get drivers to apply, but were never planning on paying it in the first place!
My whole company pays everyone the same mileage only difference is how much miles you can put in.
If you want to make more you'll have to get out of van work and into higher paying positions you qualify for with experience
1. Experience should mean something, as should longevity with a company and other things. 2. More miles already gets him more money 3. Having a fuel economy incentive bonus is a great idea 4. Again experience, good experience, should count for something. It does in other industries. Maybe not a lot but a half a cent per mile adds up.
I prefer to be leased onto a company so I can make my own decisions on what will be more profitable. A company driver can only hope for as many easy miles as they can get and what usually happens is they get the runs that owner ops/lease ops turn down.
I would not work for a company that has company drivers as a lease op, been there, and done that. A buddy of mine is in the flux, I am selling him my truck... He is driving a company owned truck, long story, he sold his truck due to mechanical issues. Funny thing is, seeing as he is driving one of the owners trucks, he is seeing the true picture. Something I saw a long time ago.
Ronen, both run the same routes, but do both run the same cargo. If the one running 9 miles per gallon is running loads that pay a little less and the other does loads that pay better, then yes, the 1 with lower miles should get paid the same, but if the driver with more miles is getting better load rates should get better. I believe in the percentage rate of pay, if a driver is driving more loads at a higher rate, he/she should get better pay.
Yes, experienced matters!
But, this thing is not my real concern at all, from My rookie days, My first complaint about the trucking industry is about not getting compensated of being away from home for a week.
I always expressed it, and being so vocal to all my fellow trucker’s, that I am hoping someday, the time will come that our sleeper birth should be paid hourly, accordingly based on what the minimum wages is.
I remember, we got stuck in 28cents per mile for so long for experienced drivers, and to 30cents until now in team drivers. Let alone they will only pay it in pc miles. So, there’s no difference of a 2cent increase at all. In today’s cost of living. Team driving should be paid not less than 80cents per mile.
But in todays trucking industry, where it’s heading right now, it doesn’t matter to them.
There’s no shortage of drivers like they are telling us! It’s all a lie. Driver’s are just bouncing all over the company, until they find a good one. Thymey just come and go. And the worst part is that trucker’s doesn’t even have health benefits at all. Yeah company offer you, but you need to pay a lot more to have one if you want.
Today’s driver is about quantity and not quality driver.
Big carrier doesn’t care. All that matters to them is that, as long as they’re unit are moving and knowing that they 50-60 drivers in line waiting for open spot. Their good! They plug their ears to not hear any complaints from their drivers, suggestions or recommendations for the betterment.
It’s like, if you can’t take it, there’s the door open for you to leave, and open for next driver for your replacement.
Truckers nowadays are not fairly treated. It’s so obvious, because the way they only pay Us peanuts.
I hope someday, Trucker’s will be paid for their sleeper birth. Call me stupid or crazy dreaming of it.
For all I can say, is that here in Canada, we pay for everything to live. Nothing is free here. And so, our sacrifices of being away for a week not seeing our love ones. It’s so obvious that even we are at the bunk sleeping, we are literally working. 24hours a day m, every single day that we are away from home.
Last year I decided to hang my keys.
After finding out that even my Dream Job in the car hauling is not worthy of my service, dedication and hardwork. That industry as well is not looking good.
So, I made this tough decision.
To just find a job local, get a 9-5 job. Get back in normal life. Living home in the morning, and going home on the same day! I’m still trying to get use to this routine until now. Because, my love on the road still telling me to go back to do it again. But, everytime I remember that peanut pay in the industry , I can’t help to just turn my mood back into having a feeling of distastefulness of getting underpaid.
Wow this hit really deep... Thank you for sharing your story, and I sincerely hope that our actions will someday lead to a reformation of trucking back to its peak and then beyond it.
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Yes and Thank You, for having this kind of platform, being the voice of both sides, the industry and the Trucker’s.
Educating people, giving proper information, for them to have a better understanding about what is really going on in the industry, for We all coming on the same page. For all I can say, everything that I have expressed was a genuine concern, and honest opinion, that comes from my own experienced, learned about the situation through years being a Trucker, hold my thoughts for years, and never talk about it to any people who’s outside the industry, for I know that one thing for sure, they will never understand, and can never relate in everything that I say, I only expressed it with our fellow Truckers a thousand times for so long, to why we let this happen, to let Us treat this way. And everytime I say that why can’t we do something about it? Let our voice be heard? Asking is there a proper place to let it be taken care of.
You know what their response to me? “Oh our job is too much for us”already “, I need to pay my bills”, I have a lot problems “, I need to focus to get more trips, “I need this job”, etc. You know Us being on this job, as a Trucker, our hands are always full, “TIME” is our common enemy. Time is not our friend. So, I can’t insert some attention for that matter, as long as I got a paycheque. It’s all good! “Let’s just wait for a miracle”, 🙄 or wait something good to happen? And as long we can take it, endure it, just hope someday will see a favourable changes, if not, the next option os to quit and change a career. Which happened to me.
I did Team driving for so many years, the reason behind it, is that I figured it out that, it is less time consuming, and efforts, and found and joined a company that do dry loads, and autoparts, having a drop and hook runs, it gives less preparation for everything, and hit that reset on the weekend, and atleast to enjoy one day for myself, with my love ones, do some laundry and groceries, prepare food, good for a week. Leave after the reset and repeat the cycle, rather than doing a single run, bouncing back and forth at the border, not wanting to experience hell at the border.(you know what I’m talking about the border right?.) lol, and this time around we are experiencing the worst traffic that happened in our life in Ontario, East Side, West Side it’s always rush hour, this excruciating traffic that contributes lot of fatigue and stress! Plus at this moment in time, I never experienced this if you didn’t make in time to park in any truck stop, truck parking, you will be ending to park somewhere that no one wish to park. So, That’s why I rather cross the border twice in a week, rather than experience the border and traffic in 401, every single day.
I only decided to do single when I got the opportunity to get in the Car Hauling Industry. and that’s the moment I ended up experiencing what I am avoiding for so long. Hell of both worlds! The 401 and the crossing the border.
Yeah, in the end, it’s just a way for Us Trucker’s way of benting our major concerns, accepting that fact that no matter how we feel, what we endure, live with the suffering of knowing not being valued, who’s a type of hardworking people, getting paid peanuts, getting less and less, feeling unappreciated all the time, but who has a big contribution to the economy. Brings food in the table, the lone worker behind the curtain, the profesion who is the backbone of the economy. The Trucker’s is the one who run the show in the economy.
And I am proud to say that. It’s not just I got a million miles on me, it includes the a million of lbs. of goods that I moved back and forth that contributed that contributed the needs of the society. Sometimes, when I pick up some merchandise in the grocery, the items, the products, the brands that I remember I hauled it coming from the west coast a 5thousand miles away, and it get’s there, because of Us. But, seeing the society not being educated of our contribution, always makes me feel unhappy, let alone knowing that, I am unhappy getting paid less of hauling those goods. But, I can’t help to be proud for the job that I do.
Anyways,I really appreciate your kind response, I’m just trying to take out, even for now I decided to work a 9-5 job. I know this voice of mine maybe can’t make a dent to whom it may concern, to whom that may have a force, a power, a authority to help to repair this industry to turn it’s course in the right direction, to move forward for the betterment, and especially for the sake of the hardworking Trucker’s.
I don’t care less if they call me stupid or saying nonsense. It’s just sometimes, We need to speak it out. Maybe it’s really needed to let them know. That Trucker’s are not robots, Trucker’s have done so much for all of Us.
If local minimum wage got some couple of increase for a couple only of years, why can’t they take a look about the Trucker’s well being, are Trucker’s getting the right pay? Or there’s something that needed to be done. Is time spent away home for days really “FREE “??? Or there’s a way to make worthit.
Anyways, thanks again.
For I will never do this kind of giving My CENTS of thoughts ever again.
Because, this is never a type of person I am.
So, PEACE OUT. ✌🏼 ☮️ ☮️
God Bless Truckers and keep safe on the road.
Having identical truck doesn't mean having the same MPG. Maybe one driver consistently hauling heavy load and going west over the mountains and against the wind.
The company that I drove for for 21yrs based the pay and bonuses on a few different factors, one of which was idle time (this was before apu's), the company would constantly ride drivers about their idle-time, especially when it got above 30%.
I'd have extra blankets in the winter and multiple fans in the summer, I'd definitely Piss the other drivers off that had higher idle times as they'd have 40-50+% idle time and I'd be under 10%.
Very interesting, I look at it from the drivers point of view.
I think about how fast truck goes, down time, stuff that makes me productive.
I have 27 years and clean record I make 55 cpm but I run 12000 plus a month and drop and hook 75 % of time, can park at most customers and my average unload, load time is about an hour.
Very Very rare will I ever not reload the same day I unload..
I drive for wiley sanders van division out of Alabama.
I do however work 7 days a week by choice.
I like your videos and I wish I made 65 cpm here but if I went somewhere else to get 65 how much would it cost me lol .
Plus because I don't have issues like ripping off trailer doors or being home every other day I get to run lanes I like.
Make a video from drivers perspective I'm. Curious if I'm missing something.
Bonuses, vacation, insurance and equipment for sure but most companies are about same.
My desire to be productive is my main goal.
I don't get paid by hour so I'm not babysitting a trailer. I want to be rolling
S3. Totally completely agreed with. My company was talking about driver idle so I worked on it. Went from 23% to 1.4% but we don't get a increase or bouns for the effort
thats just fing the driver more and more, that more time where we cant do things. like nah
Scenario #4 - neither driver is EVER going to know what the other's exact qualifications are and they should never know what anyone else is getting paid.
I've hired and fired hundreds of employees and have had multiple people in the same position, different shift. They won't all make the same amount.
If you as an employer want to pay driver with the best driving record more money, then that's your prerogative. Or maybe he's demanding it and you don't want to lose the guy.
they can and shoukld ask each, which they are legally allowed to do
Sounds like a place to avoid, hired and fired hundreds of people sounds like we know where the problem is here.
Hired and fired hundreds of people? You suck at hiring... any good owner will tell you having to fire someone is your fault...
And employees should absolutely discuss pay with each other and it's their legal federal right to do so.
The 65 cent a mile is fine. That being said have a company standard on performance. A set mount of miles and pay 5 cents more same with fuel. The 5 cents more on all miles . I get 30 percent after 20 grand I get 32 percent for all my revenue plus a quarterly bonus. That's based off fuel. I also pick my own loads. That's 30 percent of a hundred . I drive my old truck that I sold him and work with the same agents I did when I owned the truck and trailer. After 22 years as a o/o and a trip to the hospital I was done owning trucks.
Go with the trucker that has hazmat Twic and sf-86
Sir make daily live video during booking load and then negotiate with driver.
I was training guys with zero experience getting paid more than i was they want to attract new guys but end up losing experienced employee's for a tricky kinda truck job. b-train flat bed tarped over 12 drops a day.
Same pay top pay for everyone please
Plus additional bonus for each year of experience, so the years of experience will be on additional bonus, fair enough
My opinion in all scenarios, pat them the same and put bonuses in place for the extra pay.
When you say 65 cents a mile, did you have something for pick up and drop...border crossing etc? Something for lunch included or not.
1st, I believe truck driver should get paid by 50/50 after diesel and DAF so you will have no problem to dispatch a trip, fuel efficiency, punctuality etc if someone is more responsible will make more money or vice versa
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Scenario 1
Both are supposed to get paid the same because if someone has a good driving record, he will be making more money due to no violations, losing any time for repair or fines etc another reason there is no guarantee that 8.5 years experience guy is more safe than 2.5 years guy but it is just assumptions.
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2nd scenario:
If they set up for 50/50 after diesel and DAF then company makes money out of drivers luck and draw so you never worry any thing but if you don't like a driver (he not beneficial) then take him out because trucking is not for him or your company is not suitable for him.
2nd option: if you go by milage like you are looking at right now I will never set any target for how much a driver supposed to drive milage because it is like personal issue but if you don't like him mean he is not driving for minimum milage then take him out.
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3rd scenario
If you set up to pay your driver 50/50 by percentage after diesel and DAF then it should not be issue because he loses money too and you getting paid by his luck and draw.
But going by milage you should have minimum limits for affordability. Once a driver pass it then you need to kick him out.
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4th scenario
Going by limits, you want to keep (hire) him or not but nothing to pay extra because if someone has good driving record then he already getting benefit out of it.
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Last or final conclusion
No doubt, if someone work hard, clean driving, save fuel, maintenance etc he or she desire some bounce at the end of year, or some paid days off to compensate. Or just have fuel card, gift card some things.
#1 experience should pay, granted it's been safe and low violations. #2 a driver making x per mile and drives more miles already makes more. #3 a driver taking care of the companys experiences, and stresses on the equipment, should have rewards, not bonuses, a "thank you reward",$$$.
When i put myself in a position to make money, the dispatcher would have me do short hauls, or city work that would make the company money but not me.
Do a video on all they ways a company cheats the driver.
The pay per mile is obsolete.
Its the biggest scam there is.
65 cpm per mile in Atlanta.
That's gross 1200 dollars.
You have to offer me 1800 a week.
You say jump..
I say...how high
From 2.5 years of experience their should be not differences in payment . The difference should always be with those under 2 years as they cost more in insurance
Thought you dyed your hair in the beginning 😅 i was like nooo they got to you!!
Me personally as a owner operator I would give a nice quarterly Bonus.......problem Sloved l.........
Scenario 1: Driving a big truck is not that difficult if you have any talent for equipment at all. Two years vs eight years for the garden variety OTR door swinger should be equal. If that more experienced driver wants more $, he/she needs to put their skills to use in a more demanding or risky environment like flatbedding, hazmat, oversize, oilfield etc. Or….. Chicagoland traffic!
I’m gonna disagree with that
@@Todd26789 Really! Let’s hear some more input!!
@@onebadapple83 you said driving a big truck is not that difficult but some people can’t drive a 18 wheeler so not everybody can’t drive a 18 wheeler also let’s say when a driver get into a sticky situation like being in a wrong street and can’t turn because the street is so small. Plus having no violations on the driving record is good because that drivers are safer he/she know what he doing also that driver have a lot a miles under his belt. Let’s say at a new driver place they never been to before they don’t know how to get their so that why I said not everybody can drive a 18 wheeler.
@@Todd26789 A talented experienced driver would NOT be on the wrong street! Drivers that earn big $$$$ don’t make mistakes!!!!
1500 $ difference in fuel all went to showers for the second driver.
I live in my truck as a company driver the first 2 scenarios i kill the 3rd i could care less get a apu then i have years of experience over a million miles experience even doing better from bouncing around was with my last job almost 3yrs small ding and the previous bouncing and im not worth more
I Drive for marten transportation, and they screwing my paycheck every week my DM to HR I take home $1100 or less a week and I’m out 2 to 3 weeks if not 4
And been with them 2 years and sick and tired with lousy pay and Running hard
Umm why are you still working for them? If they can't get their crap together and you have a clean record and are a respectable driver, look for a carrier that has a reputation of being a good carrier to work for and hightail it! No driver should lose wages for a carriers incompetence! Let me make it clear..... RUN, DONT WALK!
Im just trying to get experience in general😅.. got my liscense month and week ago and still cant land a job in the gta toronto area.. definitely getting discouraged asf.. any tips yall?
Hey! Take a look at this video we made a while back
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Experience based hourly pay with bonuses
Do you mean regulated rates?
You are paying .65 CPM, but I was shocked to see your paying company drivers only by 1099. I would like to know why you chose to pay that way. 1099 for company drivers is just wrong. It should be reserved for LP or OOps.
I was trying to get hired on with your Atlanta site, but was detoured when I was told that.
Somehow this has turned into a perfect world where everything is about statistics and nothing else plays any significance
No. Expierence is worth something. Anything open deck or specialized freight should be paid more. Anybody can swing doors. Not anybody can haul 120’ long steel that’s 12’6” wide, properly secure it flag, right banners and follow the permits. Or wide stuff, lowboy, heavy haul etc.
They should have a comprehensive test that has all the things that can happen to the truck and load. The guy with 23 years should have no problems with it. Seen lots of 10 years or less guys that don't know shit besides hammer down.
Drivers don’t want to work per mile anymore. Just pay hourly plus overtime and drivers will know exactly what kind of employer you are.
Truckers with the skills and those that follow best practices should be paid at a competitive rate with 1+ experience. If a company requires me to be with them for 5 years before I'm paid my value then I'll just leave for a new company.
Scenero #1 8.5 years need more pay
That’s why I like companies that offer performance pay. You get what you put in. Anyone that says all truck drivers should get paid the same are entitled brats
Safe matter, careful one surviving longer
So now trucking is free agentcy?
Scenario number 3 doesn't matter to me. Because that just boils down to driving hibbit can be as simple as one uses cruise control more then other or starting and stopping.
scenario number one a guy with a little more experience should get a little bit more.
Scenario number 2. Now the guy thats putting more miles should get more money than the guy, That's putting in less because he's making a company more money, so the company should Reward the guy putting in more miles cause the company getting more money because he can haul more loads. I'm not saying ton more, but even 5 to 7 cents more a mile should be his reward he is working harder, obviously and should get payed for his work.
Scenario number 4 I think they should start the same. But at end of the day? The person putting in more miles should always get more money
WTF we have ELD TIME CLOCKS in the TRUCK. How about getting paid $35 an Hour plus OVERTIME, so drivers can live and support their families.
#1. More experience should mean more pay, but say $0.03/mi more for the 8 years of experience is laughable.... 3% more per year at the minimum. You want experience? Pay for experience... that example would mean the 8 years of experience would start at 75cpm and 2 years starts at your starting 65cpm.
Or do monetary bonuses that actually equal something. $500 to save you 10x that amount? Na, pay me to care, otherwise I dont care about your bottom line.🤷
1. Experience absolutely matters, long time drivers are on average safer, receive fewer violations, and are on time more often.
2. Fuel efficiency is situational. I drive in the western states and it's all up and down. I have optimized idle, so unless there's a good reason, I don't idle my truck. I've always averaged 7mpg. There's no improving it.
I think my fleet has things right. They use a pay scale based on tenure. Personally, I survived the first five years where I learned my trade and am now a competent driver. Now that I've reached a decade, I want to get paid 😁
Well said sir. Problem is, we are a dime a dozen, good or bad, just look around. 34 years out here, this used to be a good profession, now it is PJ's and flip flops, and folks that cannot even speak English, and no one cares. Just get the freight there.
“Our system doesn’t pay like that” says the one who runs the system. Shit pisses me off. I wanna debate this guy so bad.
i think experince drivers shoukd be poaid better,,,, BUT all truckers should be paid better so none of them needs to feel like they have to rush and over work themselves to death
I’m in Maryland. 3yrs experience, clean mvr, clean criminal record….. anyone know any companies I can do $100k+?
Old dominion, UPS line haul are the some of the big company’s i can think out.
Might take 2 years to make that as those are seniority based company’s
Give me 65cpm, 3000miles a week and I will stay 2moths on the road and one week home and I don’t care if the company pay more to another drivers.
Absolutely not
No
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The better driver should get paid more. Miles and drop pay should go away. Hourly is best
Up to is a carrot 🥕 🎣 🐎
Your expenses on running the businesses don’t have anything todo with the driver, besides you making $ you still want to make even more, that is the cost of running business. Also that kind of pennies pinching bs is not going to end regardless driver saves you the month $, you will still be greedy
Let's get real here, drivers are getting screwed. The industry is full of bad companies. There should be an hourly rate same pay for the same work and this would also reduce accidents. The industry has to be cleaned up. We are never going to get anywhere until all drivers are paid equally across the board. If you are not a truck driver please heed this warning stay away, this is a very toxic environment very little backing for drivers and the responsibilities are endless.
You guys create confusion all the time it's always been time and experience do go to school at 6 and move to 10th grade over night
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Genius
Scenario #2:
Should you pay the high-mileage driver more? Yes, you should pay them Overtime.
Nope. The trucking business is going to shit in the next 10 years
It’s already been in the shit for the past 10. Just gets deeper and smellier every day
😂 The load doesent care who drives it. Really this isnt medical school.