CPIB should only report to the President and the House of Parliament represented by the Speaker and both leaders of the ruling and opposition party. So that Singaporeans will not be f@*&ed if the PM is corrupt.
I’m curious to know if the PM did inform TCJ wife back in Nov 2020. If I was the wife, I will feel bad not only did my husband cheat on me, even my country PM did not tell me the truth when he knew of this. I’m just baffled that PM allowed TCJ and his mistress whom both have questionable behaviour despite their high salary to work in office. If u cannot be honest to even ur family, how can u be honest to ur country. Omg.
Imagine being the Prime minister, about to retire, and then your team screws you over by screwing each other. I've never felt sorry for a politician, but I do now.
How wonderful they get to explain themselves even if the eplanations are ludicrous but opposition get a committee of enquiry and have to answer YES or NO to drilling questions. Pui!
I watched some live. Admire Prita Singh. Undeterred, assertive n composed n even followed up for answers when the pm used red herring to siam his questions so many times. Sham, vivian, etc all bounced him but he remained steadfast. I pray that we singapore will have more wp, tcb, sdp, rp, etc oppo mps like him to check n balance our parliament.
The Parliamentary sitting that exonerated Ministers K Shanmugam and Vivian Balakrishnan was, in our opinion, remarkably unsatisfactory - raising more questions than it answered.” The party expressed concerns that the public’s reactions to the findings - marked by anger and a sense of injustice - were warranted. The controversial rentals involve bungalows from the Singapore Land Authority (SLA) at 26 and 31 Ridout Road. Through the reports by the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB) and Senior Minister Teo Chee Hean, it has come to light that these properties were rented not under the ministers’ names but their wives’, a situation that the SDP describes as particularly troubling.
We still do not know if the two ministers are renting out their GCB at a much higher rent that what are paying to SLA so they are making a big profit monthly in addition to their million $ yearly salary. The scope of CPIB investigation only covered the rental of the Ridput properties. Making a profit is not a crime but as public officials they should bebopen and transparent and provide the full picture.
Why did u wait for 3 long years before sacking TCJ and his mistress? PM mentioned both would have to go when he discover their affair in 2020 but why wait 3 years? Why was nothing done till now?
Exactly ! PM said he needed to ensure that the constituents in Marine Parade GRC would be taken care of before letting TCJ go. What a lame excuse ! 🙄 How about Iswaran's constituents in West Coast ? Iswaran's minister and constituency duties can be relinquished immediately and taken over by someone else and not TCJ's ??!! The PM has to come up with better reasons as Singaporeans are not stupid.
The SDP statement further argued that the biggest indictment of the Ministers might not come in Parliament, given the People’s Action Party’s (PAP) support of the two. However, they suggested that, “in the minds of the people, this episode is heavily laced with the stench of hypocrisy.” The party concluded that “this matter has shown, yet again, that without a strong opposition presence in Parliament, Singaporeans cannot hope to consistently and procedurally hold their Ministers accountable.”
As we have seen, to be a Prime Minister is not a walk in the park. Not only have you to ensure that the country develops and prospers, but the people's welfare and well-being as well. Additionally, the people who work under him as well as members of the political party that makes the government. Singapore has done very well in many of these aspects Many governments and countries would be envious indeed . To a prime ministers who is handing over the government to its successor to face such bombshells is indeed painful. This is on top of the personal problems he faces with his family. The right thing now of course is to stay on and clear up the problems before handling over the government in good shape. it would also be a valuable exemplary lesson to showcase to the younger leaders how the government or party solve its problems. Surely PM Lee and his very experienced senior ministers would be able to overcome these setbacks and put Singapore in order before they leave the scene. It would be a pity if the people see it as a failure of a government and its leaders and throw caution to the wind.
The issue becomes even more significant considering that Tan Chuan-Jin was the Speaker of Parliament, a position wielding considerable authority. In any democracy, it’s crucial that political leaders are held to the same standards of accountability and transparency.
The Opposition must learn too! When they see good leaders they must think and act to becoming like them. And when they see leaders that are not good, they must reflect on their own weak points. They too face problem of infidelity in their own party. You can't throw stone when you are living in glass houses.
@@westwoodlytrue, exactly nobody is perfect, we need more oppo mps to mutual monitor each other to check n balance. Not the current 80 pap versus 10 oppo.
@@kklim3619 Agreed we need 0pposition around to ask inconvenient questions that the PAP MPs may not be allowed to ask because of their WHIP, the ferocious lady from Tanjong Pagar. The NCMP from the West Coast is a good diversion though he may be made a whipping boy. He has not much to lose compared to WP who are equally paid as MPs from the PAP.
@@WestliFerZul Unless you want a lawsuit from the government, it's best to keep your opinion to yourself. A Singaporean blogger who merely shared an article was accused of "defamation" by LHL for S$133,000.
It's human weakness lah! HK actor Jackie Chan would say that he made a mistake that many men in the world make. Fortunately only a rare few men in the PAP or Government made such a mistake.
Let me be clear in this parliament. As long as I am the Prime Minister and the PAP controls the government our policy of ownself check ownself will continue to ensure that there is integrity in our governance and conduct. Full stop
PM said he needed to ensure that the constituents in Marine Parade GRC would be taken care of, thus the delay in letting TCJ go. How about Iswaran's constituents in West Coast ? Why Iswaran's minister and constituency duties could be relinquished immediately and taken over by someone else and not TCJ's ??!! The PM has to come up with better excuses !
While I agree with you that the excuse given for the delay in letting TCJ go is weak, the fundamental difference between Iswaran and TCJ is that Iswaran is under investigation for a criminal act while adultery is (unfortunately) not a crime in Singapore. Considering that a minister wields significant power, any delay in cutting off Iswaran's access to official resources may hinder the investigations, making his case more time-sensitive than TCJ's.
Both these scandals resulted in the resignation of the MPs involved, but the discrepancy in handling raises significant questions. As we compare a case from the past with one in the present, it’s vital that we ensure the same rules apply to all, regardless of when the incident occurred or which party was involved.
If he can still have salary , why not also give those Singaporean who still jobless no salary pay them salary until they have found a job lor....😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨
To uphold the same standard or even higher, the most transparent and unbiased way is for PAP to go through Committee of Enquiry, just like WP has gone through?
It’s so obvious that some quarters of the parliament ONLY wants to score political points, regardless to the innocent parties of the family and relatives. This is a golden opportunity to see through. We must have very careful considerations in the polls as not to let such quarters to take place. Again, I would to ask, ANY has ANY new directions for the economy and our children????????? We need to move on!
Since u have regrets, means you have done wrongly. Can u please apologise? So how to precaution such mistakes- do NOT ownself do , ownself check. We need more opposition in both parliament and in our presidency. Nobody is perfect thus we need a mutual monitoring system. Only a balance of power can ensure this. Not 80 MPs versus these few Oppo MPs. These few are not 乔峰 the movie, can fight so many of you.
Why a minister & mp that cannot function his job properly n is investigating for corruption STILL GET PAY OVER 20-30K$ N CONTINUE TO ENJOY A LYXURY HIGH PAID LIFE USING PUBLIC FUNDS THE MINISTER SHOULD CUT OFF ALL SALARY UNTIL THE CASE IS CLEARED N NOT CONTINUE PAYING 8500$ AS MINISTER PAY + MP SALARY
Play soccer against the PAPsmear team and then you realise they put in their own referee and linesmen. They can also move goalposts! If something goes wrong with that, it's FIFA's fault. Wah lau eh!
Soft hearted PM, if LKY still around. He will be kana chopped already, still give 8.5k to spend. Imagine if the investigation take few years to conclude, the amount of taxpayers money spent.
The politics is of utmost immaturity in badly handling the incident causing embarrassment to the victims to the whole world which is unjust and unwarranted. A skilled public relation procedure would save face fir both the victims and government an more do fir the PM without needing to openly publicly defend himself. The incidents have channels of resolution without fear of public interest and public discussion. PM is too thin skin. How can a PM make claims of continuity of his and LKY principle of government on future government assuming PAP will infinitely be government of the day. The saga is deliberately stirred up as a storm in a tea cup.
Comparatively, there are many more opposition party members involved in police investigation for criminal offences - pritam, charles yeo, lim tean, hsien yang, etc. Opposition parties are damaged beyond repair.🤣🤣
@@angiemf9033 Of course im childish...You wanna give extra money to well known corrupted party and waste your money on transport or your transport petrol for the sake of celebrating NDP?Hell no.
That is not enough. Openness and transparency is needed all the time in the public sector so the public knows the whole truth and there is real accountability.
Zero % like how his father (LKY) would have handled the Ridout Saga. Gaslighting was never in his action plans to resolve the conflicts. Mr LKY was a legend. His son (LHL) lol.
I am sure the Govt. Of Singapore under the PM will ensure no wrongdoing goes unchecked,unpunished,whatever it takes. That is why Singapore is a shining example to many countries!👏👏
4 scandals in 1 month, 2 disgraced, 2 sacked, and 1 detained. that's 3 out of 16 full ministers plus 1 house speaker. Singapore is a shining example to many countries? r u on drugs?
So it’s a shining example to have the exiting President to rally a riot against the officially elected President, grabbing women and boasting about his actions, taking top secret documents home for bbq party?
You hid things from all Singaporeans for years since the last election. You’re now forthcoming with Singaporeans. Your delay is very questionable. Admitting you should have said it earlier and not taking responsibility shows you allow one standard for yourself and another for the rest
How about the Leader of Opposition? He also knew his member’s extra-marital affair but just assumed that it didn’t happen? He did not probe further when they just denied it. By the way, he’s a lawyer. I would think twice about hiring him to represent me for any case.🤨
Can someone tell me how can CPIB be independent when they report to LHL? What does the word "INDEPENDENT" means?
Reports to doesn't mean take instructions from.
@@sugarly69, so what’s the difference between the two? Care to enlighten us, oh Enlightened One?
CPIB should only report to the President and the House of Parliament represented by the Speaker and both leaders of the ruling and opposition party. So that Singaporeans will not be f@*&ed if the PM is corrupt.
@sugarly69 who approves CPIB Director's promotion and pay rise ?
Agree, CPIB should report to Malayisa PM. Now that's what u call independent!
I’m curious to know if the PM did inform TCJ wife back in Nov 2020. If I was the wife, I will feel bad not only did my husband cheat on me, even my country PM did not tell me the truth when he knew of this.
I’m just baffled that PM allowed TCJ and his mistress whom both have questionable behaviour despite their high salary to work in office. If u cannot be honest to even ur family, how can u be honest to ur country. Omg.
Becos TCJ and his mistress are very selfish and self entitled ppl. Narssistic
TCJ must cough out all his wages since 2020
In your dreams only la😢
Imagine being the Prime minister, about to retire, and then your team screws you over by screwing each other. I've never felt sorry for a politician, but I do now.
Do u need to feel sorry who pays himself S$3M/yr? Still with pension aftr retiring...
How wonderful they get to explain themselves even if the eplanations are ludicrous but opposition get a committee of enquiry and have to answer YES or NO to drilling questions. Pui!
i also want reduced pay of 8.5k a month
I watched some live. Admire Prita Singh. Undeterred, assertive n composed n even followed up for answers when the pm used red herring to siam his questions so many times. Sham, vivian, etc all bounced him but he remained steadfast. I pray that we singapore will have more wp, tcb, sdp, rp, etc oppo mps like him to check n balance our parliament.
Who can control the PM if PM is corrupted?
CPIB. They can seek concurrence from the President to investigate the PM.
who can control the president if he/she is corrupted?
@@lambo88yawnzzzzz
@@lambo88PM lor
@@emptyangel what if the President was close or ever so close relationship with the PM?
It is getting more apparent that the higher their pay the more their arrogance. Trust is lost totally.
Still get paid without working, when I grow up i wanna be like him!
Vote wisely..Even corrupted minister get paid blindly.
@@lolipopi503how u know corrupted?
@@flowertowerrrsource: trust me bro
@@flowertowerrrPM LHL: They will not tell you anything..
Where is a transparency which he himself always said during public address?
And this Iswaran still get paid so much while being investigated for corruption? what a joke!
The Parliamentary sitting that exonerated Ministers K Shanmugam and Vivian Balakrishnan was, in our opinion, remarkably unsatisfactory - raising more questions than it answered.”
The party expressed concerns that the public’s reactions to the findings - marked by anger and a sense of injustice - were warranted.
The controversial rentals involve bungalows from the Singapore Land Authority (SLA) at 26 and 31 Ridout Road.
Through the reports by the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB) and Senior Minister Teo Chee Hean, it has come to light that these properties were rented not under the ministers’ names but their wives’, a situation that the SDP describes as particularly troubling.
We still do not know if the two ministers are renting out their GCB at a much higher rent that what are paying to SLA so they are making a big profit monthly in addition to their million $ yearly salary. The scope of CPIB investigation only covered the rental of the Ridput properties. Making a profit is not a crime but as public officials they should bebopen and transparent and provide the full picture.
Since corruption is not tolerated in singapore. Will a death sentence be issued to a minister if he/she is found guilty of corruption?
The pap isn’t clean and accountable they let their own bias slip out when holding their own accountable
Why did u wait for 3 long years before sacking TCJ and his mistress? PM mentioned both would have to go when he discover their affair in 2020 but why wait 3 years? Why was nothing done till now?
Exactly ! PM said he needed to ensure that the constituents in Marine Parade GRC would be taken care of before letting TCJ go. What a lame excuse ! 🙄 How about Iswaran's constituents in West Coast ? Iswaran's minister and constituency duties can be relinquished immediately and taken over by someone else and not TCJ's ??!! The PM has to come up with better reasons as Singaporeans are not stupid.
CPIB should only report to the President and the Parliament, which is the people !!
The SDP statement further argued that the biggest indictment of the Ministers might not come in Parliament, given the People’s Action Party’s (PAP) support of the two. However, they suggested that, “in the minds of the people, this episode is heavily laced with the stench of hypocrisy.”
The party concluded that “this matter has shown, yet again, that without a strong opposition presence in Parliament, Singaporeans cannot hope to consistently and procedurally hold their Ministers accountable.”
The Opposition are guilty as well. They can't throw stones when they are living in glass houses too!
Not easy to be prime minister.... God bless Singapore
As we have seen, to be a Prime Minister is not a walk in the park. Not only have you to ensure that the country develops and prospers, but the people's welfare and well-being as well. Additionally, the people who work under him as well as members of the political party that makes the government. Singapore has done very well in many of these aspects Many governments and countries would be envious indeed . To a prime ministers who is handing over the government to its successor to face such bombshells is indeed painful. This is on top of the personal problems he faces with his family. The right thing now of course is to stay on and clear up the problems before handling over the government in good shape. it would also be a valuable exemplary lesson to showcase to the younger leaders how the government or party solve its problems. Surely PM Lee and his very experienced senior ministers would be able to overcome these setbacks and put Singapore in order before they leave the scene. It would be a pity if the people see it as a failure of a government and its leaders and throw caution to the wind.
The issue becomes even more significant considering that Tan Chuan-Jin was the Speaker of Parliament, a position wielding considerable authority.
In any democracy, it’s crucial that political leaders are held to the same standards of accountability and transparency.
The Opposition must learn too! When they see good leaders they must think and act to becoming like them. And when they see leaders that are not good, they must reflect on their own weak points. They too face problem of infidelity in their own party. You can't throw stone when you are living in glass houses.
@@westwoodlytrue, exactly nobody is perfect, we need more oppo mps to mutual monitor each other to check n balance. Not the current 80 pap versus 10 oppo.
@@kklim3619 Agreed we need 0pposition around to ask inconvenient questions that the PAP MPs may not be allowed to ask because of their WHIP, the ferocious lady from Tanjong Pagar. The NCMP from the West Coast is a good diversion though he may be made a whipping boy. He has not much to lose compared to WP who are equally paid as MPs from the PAP.
This is the result of years not being able to criticise the government.
How are you not able to criticize the government?
@@WestliFerZulhe can only meow. And type angry comments on UA-cam
@@WestliFerZul Unless you want a lawsuit from the government, it's best to keep your opinion to yourself. A Singaporean blogger who merely shared an article was accused of "defamation" by LHL for S$133,000.
@@WestliFerZul
Stop 🛑🛑 s Carrying - It's a Very Degrading and Embarrassing Habit 🐕🦺💨
It's human weakness lah! HK actor Jackie Chan would say that he made a mistake that many men in the world make. Fortunately only a rare few men in the PAP or Government made such a mistake.
Let me be clear in this parliament. As long as I am the Prime Minister and the PAP controls the government our policy of ownself check ownself will continue to ensure that there is integrity in our governance and conduct. Full stop
PM said he needed to ensure that the constituents in Marine Parade GRC would be taken care of, thus the delay in letting TCJ go. How about Iswaran's constituents in West Coast ? Why Iswaran's minister and constituency duties could be relinquished immediately and taken over by someone else and not TCJ's ??!! The PM has to come up with better excuses !
While I agree with you that the excuse given for the delay in letting TCJ go is weak, the fundamental difference between Iswaran and TCJ is that Iswaran is under investigation for a criminal act while adultery is (unfortunately) not a crime in Singapore. Considering that a minister wields significant power, any delay in cutting off Iswaran's access to official resources may hinder the investigations, making his case more time-sensitive than TCJ's.
Another compelling reason to vote for the Opposition at the next GE.
LHL said he "could have" handled the problem earlier. Sounds desperately trying to play down the screw-up.
Let my blud retire in peace😢
Both these scandals resulted in the resignation of the MPs involved, but the discrepancy in handling raises significant questions.
As we compare a case from the past with one in the present, it’s vital that we ensure the same rules apply to all, regardless of when the incident occurred or which party was involved.
8500 is still a lot. Should make it zero till after investigation
Should just give minimum wage ma to be fair
If he can still have salary , why not also give those Singaporean who still jobless no salary pay them salary until they have found a job lor....😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨
Thoroughly and Transparently...
Don't believe a single word he says....
Not believing some things is reasonable but not trusting anything is plain goofy
4:24, minister caught sleeping.. She thought PM is blocking the camera but he move away for a drink and exposing her.. 😂
Close eyes also can hear lah zzzz
To uphold the same standard or even higher, the most transparent and unbiased way is for PAP to go through Committee of Enquiry, just like WP has gone through?
Will see Wait for election
It’s so obvious that some quarters of the parliament ONLY wants to score political points, regardless to the innocent parties of the family and relatives. This is a golden opportunity to see through. We must have very careful considerations in the polls as not to let such quarters to take place. Again, I would to ask, ANY has ANY new directions for the economy and our children????????? We need to move on!
Since u have regrets, means you have done wrongly. Can u please apologise? So how to precaution such mistakes- do NOT ownself do , ownself check. We need more opposition in both parliament and in our presidency. Nobody is perfect thus we need a mutual monitoring system. Only a balance of power can ensure this. Not 80 MPs versus these few Oppo MPs. These few are not 乔峰 the movie, can fight so many of you.
I wander who paid the CPIB salary? 😮😮😮
They are to report to LHL..so...
Your maader,my maader,everybody maader
timing so good hor ?........the SHAM and Vivian in trouble >> Iswaran >> then the affairs.............
😂😂😂
Some more coming....... god plan it karma😛😛😛😛😛
It all start at Oxely lane saga follow by Ridout,scandal and corruption 🎉
I disagree with his argument.
Yawnzzzzz
CPIB n PM doing a good job so far. Perhaps CPIB should report to parliament in the future.
Go UK and sue LHY lei
Why a minister & mp that cannot function his job properly n is investigating for corruption STILL GET PAY OVER 20-30K$ N CONTINUE TO ENJOY A LYXURY HIGH PAID LIFE USING PUBLIC FUNDS
THE MINISTER SHOULD CUT OFF ALL SALARY UNTIL THE CASE IS CLEARED N NOT CONTINUE PAYING 8500$ AS MINISTER PAY + MP SALARY
Not bad leh.. still getting paid for things he did . ..
Play soccer against the PAPsmear team and then you realise they put in their own referee and linesmen. They can also move goalposts! If something goes wrong with that, it's FIFA's fault. Wah lau eh!
Soft hearted PM, if LKY still around.
He will be kana chopped already, still give 8.5k to spend. Imagine if the investigation take few years to conclude, the amount of taxpayers money spent.
If only LKY is alive, his teams are those born not of silver spoon but hard time
Lanjiao no way the investigation will take years. I’ll personally twerk outside LHL house if the investigation takes years
Strongly agree! LKY will chop straight away. Now?🙄
Until now no one know about actually what case involved in the 2 of you 😮😮 ???
When a person is arrest crime already take place..if not cpib will not arrested a person if there is no crime
Why dubbed PM Lee last part speech?
How do Singaporean know if own self check ownself is corrupted?🤔
New speaker pog
"these relationships happen from time to time"...these relationships should not even bloody hell happen in the first place
Ayioo at the end no findings and case closed...lah.
The politics is of utmost immaturity in badly handling the incident causing embarrassment to the victims to the whole world which is unjust and unwarranted. A skilled public relation procedure would save face fir both the victims and government an more do fir the PM without needing to openly publicly defend himself. The incidents have channels of resolution without fear of public interest and public discussion. PM is too thin skin. How can a PM make claims of continuity of his and LKY principle of government on future government assuming PAP will infinitely be government of the day. The saga is deliberately stirred up as a storm in a tea cup.
Why was there such big media coverage when there was the AHTC saga? And also so much media coverage on asking ncmp to apologise?
Just a lot of bollocks, even mentioning his father's name just to remind everyone again.
Greedy better than poor 😂
So PM is not perfect. Big deal... He is still the best person and option to be PM.
Jialat la Iswaran, his pay kena cut down to $8500. He want to eat what like that?!
I believe i can fly to……….. the sky 😂😂😂
A final jab at Leon.. not cool
Comparatively, there are many more opposition party members involved in police investigation for criminal offences - pritam, charles yeo, lim tean, hsien yang, etc. Opposition parties are damaged beyond repair.🤣🤣
AFFAIR NATION..HOW SAD..NOTHING TO DO WITH EDUCTION..HIGH PAY..HIGH POSITION..IS ALL ABOUT INTEGRITY..
Moral of the story, don't drag and now the family really suffer cos that 2 very selfish ppl refuse to do what is right and moral.
guy looking to ROD... keep kenna high key reservist...
Boycott ndp...dun come for ndp celebration..
Childish
Bye bye
@@angiemf9033 Of course im childish...You wanna give extra money to well known corrupted party and waste your money on transport or your transport petrol for the sake of celebrating NDP?Hell no.
Cool PM & I like the casual dress code.
explain until so long when 1-2 sentence can say .....why like that ah?
We understand you mr lee. You are not god.
PAP is clean and accountable you see they don't even spare their own son and daughter.
That is not enough. Openness and transparency is needed all the time in the public sector so the public knows the whole truth and there is real accountability.
Zero % like how his father (LKY) would have handled the Ridout Saga. Gaslighting was never in his action plans to resolve the conflicts.
Mr LKY was a legend. His son (LHL) lol.
Thank you PAP. Always clean and accountable!
PAP 🐕🦺💨 How Many Bones🦴 🦴 🦴
Did you get for this 🤔
LOL Good sarcasm.
@@kohyangchi43078500 bones(reduced number of bones)
LHL is correct.
about what?
Then how do you explain the scandals?
@@franciscody9622ah yes LHL personally instructed all of them to get involved in scandals😈😈
Source: Im the PAP banner
y in mandarin? 1St language is English!
I am sure the Govt. Of Singapore under the PM will ensure no wrongdoing goes unchecked,unpunished,whatever it takes. That is why Singapore is a shining example to many countries!👏👏
4 scandals in 1 month, 2 disgraced, 2 sacked, and 1 detained. that's 3 out of 16 full ministers plus 1 house speaker. Singapore is a shining example to many countries? r u on drugs?
So it’s a shining example to have the exiting President to rally a riot against the officially elected President, grabbing women and boasting about his actions, taking top secret documents home for bbq party?
死局😮
You hid things from all Singaporeans for years since the last election. You’re now forthcoming with Singaporeans. Your delay is very questionable. Admitting you should have said it earlier and not taking responsibility shows you allow one standard for yourself and another for the rest
How about the Leader of Opposition? He also knew his member’s extra-marital affair but just assumed that it didn’t happen? He did not probe further when they just denied it. By the way, he’s a lawyer. I would think twice about hiring him to represent me for any case.🤨
The PAP is clean, accountable and transparent
No they are not
They tired to cover up certain scandals THEY ARE NOT CLEAN
Squeaky clean and clear like my armpit
@@gfsg888wow must have lasered all your hair away
Lps
😂😂😂😂
pap mps are innocent!!
The rot from within festers on. 🥱