A correction: the list of mantles is not tied to the previously unlock mantle but the number of monsters hunted, let me explain: I never got the Magmadron mantle, I looked for it on the list and nothing, I have only hunted one magma almudron, after hunt five, and not getting the mantle, it becomes available for purchase for 150 coins, so it's no need to get the mantle before to be available at the list
Funny, Magmadron was how I found out how to properly unlock them too. (Technically mine was Malzeno, but I got it naturally on the fifth hunt, but she helped discover the pattern after I fought Magma.)
That explains why I didn't have the Abysall Mantle of Gaismagorm on the list in the beginning even though I got it before. Thanks for that correction! :)
it's mainly for those people that have trouble with those monsters. For me Valstrax is a pain to deal with, and his mantle is just not dropping for me. So my time is def worth 300 coins if I have easier monsters that I can reliably take out quickly.
The point is that some mantles have ridiculously low drops, like Espinas and his 3% global drop rate, and you'll eventually be sitting on those coins anyway, so it's a good addition regardless
7:15 small correction here. I have not received a Valstrax mantle(Draonsphire) but it is still available to me. I verified this by looking at my hunter's notes and that material is still a ??? to me. So I think the materials will show as long as you have completed either one hunt, or a certain number of hunts with that monster.
About the mantles I don’t know what unlocks them because it isn’t “having one” for me: -I can buy Goss Harag Bile+ despite never having fought Goss Harag in Master Rank -I can buy Lunagaron’s Mantle despite never having obtained it. -I am unable to buy Shagaru’s Mantle despite having two in my inventory, -I am unable to buy Rajang Heart despite having obtained two earlier(I have since used both, but I have obtained it)
I think it has to do with fighting an equivalent monster in anomaly investigations (if it exists) and if you’re achieved a certain level. Prior to the the update I’d fought every MR a monster and only unlocked certain mangled after achieving certain anomaly investigation levels or obtaining the mantle itself. Everything should be unlocked my AI level of 81
It seems like the mantles/rare drops become available after you've hunted that monster 5 times, and it has nothing to do with whether you've gotten one before or not. I have most of them unlocked, and the only ones that aren't there are from monsters I've hunted less than 5 times. Other than that, really helpful video! :)
It's hilarious to see people complain about rng and their guild card shows 3 of said monster hunted. If people can't farm a monster how are they going to farm those coins?
I wish I could trade-in my mantles for investigation coins, I could be getting so many Outfit Voucher+ if that was the case, or other mantles that I might need. I have 5+ Mantles for a lot of monsters and I'm almost never going to actually use them, but they're worth so little in melding, it's basically a waste.
I've had really bad luck trying to get a magmadron mantle, ~25 magma almudron hunted and not even one, but the mantle is still available to purchase from bahari. I've also gotten an Astalos mantle on my first hunt, but it isn't available. I think his stock is tied to how many monsters you've hunted and not what drops you've gotten.
Honestly wish his list also included gems and not just mantles. I've gotten mantles, but some weapons I want need to be upgraded from high rank and I am having awful gem luck.
Something to note when attempting to join a multiplayer investigation: Choose your desired target _before_ you choose the desired minimum level. For some reason, if you try to enter the minimum level first, it resets back to 1 when you choose your target. It's really annoying and initially made me think the Research Requests were broken.
Grinding a specific monster for its mantle might still be a lot faster than going for the same investigation quests again and again until you have enough coins. And it's less tedious imho.
For whoever finds this ancient video, this is actually bad advice The time it will take you to fight research request monsters is usually way longer than it'd take you to just fight something like great izuchi solo over and over, you lose out on the +1 bonus and would need to do 10 runs instead of 5 (unless you luck out and roll izuchi, baggi or wroggi) but it's incredibly fast and risk free. Izuchi has something like 60k+ health even at higher levels which is super low compared to your general fare of 80-100k base, health is multiplied by an amount per player in the quest so if you end up in a 4 man quest vs an annoying monster and you and the others are scrubby at fighting it you will literally be there forever chipping away at like 250k health monsters just to get a measly 2 completion marks, so don't do that if you're in a hurry
Thanks for the tips but I don't think the mantles unlock like that. I don't have the Narwa mantle available but I've already got at least 3 of those because I have a complete Narwa armor set and multiple Narwa weapons.
Awesome video! Extremely descriptive! I'm late to the Sunbreak party, but your guides have been amazing, very descriptive, and your time stamps are absolutely amazing 👏 thank you 😁
'Wouldn't recommend buying the amber essence as I have a tonne of it in my inventory' - he says, as if the rest of us aren't using truckloads of amber furiously rerolling RNG augments
He does kinda have a point. Even the high level A5 investigations usually give you 4-7 basic amber essences. It's more resource efficient to just do a relatively easy investigation instead.
I generally stick with what I have on the first roll unless it's something bad, since I'm not absolutely crazy about min-maxing, though I have gotten lucky on some of my rolls.
I think the mantels are based on something else I had zinogre skymerald despite not having one till a few hunts ago. Narga mantel I don't have but it's in the list with bahari
I'm not so sure about requiring to get the mantle once to be able to buy it... I never got a magmadron mantle ever, but after playing a lvl71 magmadron quest it appeared in the list.
i have never gotten a goss harag Bile+ or origin mantle and can buy both if i had the coins. so i dunno about the have to have gotten it first, i think you just need to have fought the monster.
Something g weird going on for me. If I join a online quest for the right no then and level, I never get anything to add a coin on the bonus request so that’s weird. Anyone had this issue?
So the main objective for these hunts is to just destroy the afflicted monster as fast as possible? Or do I have to do partbreaks? Im running a wyvern ammo HBG build and it melts monsters but I am concerned of whether or not I need to partbreak if I want to get the most out of the investigations.
I feel like it would be faster to just actually hunt for the part you need rather than do all that effort for the coins. At the moment, I only do those as a side thing while leveling up and never my focus.
Hunt the infected version of the monster you need. If you fail 150 times in a row then you can buy the mantle. And you will be very happy that it is an option.
Is infinite the max you can get? You use infinite a lot in your videos. So. You are saying there is no cap on how many coins you can get? Thanks! Just wondering.
That can't be right. I am %1000 positive I've never gotten a Nargacuga mantle, I've been trying to get one for the longest and I've been hyper focused on checking for it after every Narga hunt and shiny pickup. Yeah I just checked and it's still "???" on the parts list in my hunters notes. Same for Epinas and gore magala mantles and they too are on my Bahari list.
I have a similar thing going on, I can buy Mizu, Goss, Zin, and Lunagaron “Mantles” despite never having got them. And even tho I’ve got Rajang Hearts, Shagaru Mantles and Magma Mantles I can’t buy them.
Sorry Hollow, but that is misinformation. I have never gotten the Valstrax or Ibushi Mantle, yet I have them in the shop... Yet I don't have the Mantles of FB, Allmother, or Scorned Magnamalo... So sorry to be that guy, Hollow, but you're wrong there.
Anomaly quest are my favorite tbh. I really just hate the metal rath’s. Like f***in, too much hp, too much damage and too much flying like DAAAAAAAAAMN! LOOK AT THAT FuckIN HEALTH POOL!
the funniest is when you star that system and he tells you "hunt x monster at x level" for the first time but... it just so happens that ti's physically impossible to get that monster to that level in under 4 quests. no, before anyone says anything, this will happen because you can only join quests up to a specific rank unless you have a lobby i guess where a friend has the one you want so till you have the rank grind progressed to a certain point you will miss out on a lot of these. yep, same as the old MHW system, you have to have been blessed by RNJesus once already then you can use this to bypass his cruel whims.
Soooo this is a bit of a dumb question but do you need to Hunt every monster in a multi monster hunt? Or will killing the Afflicted monster be enough? I know normally that’s the case but idk about anomaly investigations
I never got mantle of origins and I can buy it ,so this is wrong in vid that depends if you ever got one or not.And yes I checked even materials in large Monsters and Allmother got 2 hidden materials which I never got which must be a Mantle and something else. I was trying to farm one for last 10 Allmothers and nothing.
maybe it is something particular for narwa and ibushi, I need some mantles from other monsters (like magma almudrom) that I never found and I can't meld them, they are not available for me in the list. And moreover, the mantles from the new added monsters aren't available, at least in this update. I found a mantle from lucent nargacuga and I don't have it available for melding in the list
@@samuele3041 yeah I just checked with magma almudron. No Mantle to buy for me too. But I can buy Valstrax Mantle and never got one too. Maybe there are some fixed monsters or something. If it’s true what he says than it’s even better to unlock new mantles to buy 👍🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@@Adrian-L3x4 Reading all the other comments the Bahari list is bugged or there's a criteria for unlocking the mantles and rare items that we still don't understand. Maybe for monsters of a certain tier it's unlocked by default and for other there is something involving their afflicted version or something else, but who knows, I can be, and probably I am, completely wrong xD
What a watse of time just hunt for the mantle you need so much quicker dont bother for coins. I have nearly 100 to 150 weapons i. Game almost all need a mantle to lvl 9 or 10 150× 150 =22500 coins ive done 200 master rank quest and only need like 5 -10 mantles to finish all weapons its more annoying getting afflicted bones pelts and blood. They wait for game to really put the grind out
On anomaly investigation, bring peart breaker, every part break you get on ANY monster you get the same reward as picking up an aflicted resource point
This video was rather useless, and just seems to state obvious bits of information that everyone can easily figure out just by spending a short time with the Title Update.
A correction: the list of mantles is not tied to the previously unlock mantle but the number of monsters hunted, let me explain: I never got the Magmadron mantle, I looked for it on the list and nothing, I have only hunted one magma almudron, after hunt five, and not getting the mantle, it becomes available for purchase for 150 coins, so it's no need to get the mantle before to be available at the list
Funny, Magmadron was how I found out how to properly unlock them too. (Technically mine was Malzeno, but I got it naturally on the fifth hunt, but she helped discover the pattern after I fought Magma.)
Can 💯% Confirm.
Hunted my 5th Scorned Magnamalo today and then the Glare Eye appeared in the Shop.
That explains why I didn't have the Abysall Mantle of Gaismagorm on the list in the beginning even though I got it before.
Thanks for that correction! :)
I've hunted chaotic gore like 20 times but i still dont have contrary scale on the list, does it come with later tu updates? (I'm on Xbox)
Same, but with Flaming Espinas Mantle.
I actually don’t get the point of farming coins, since the Mantles are so expensive, You better off just farm that particular monster
Some people like me can just be really unlucky. I've hunted over 70 Mizutsune trying to get the mantle with no dice
it's mainly for those people that have trouble with those monsters. For me Valstrax is a pain to deal with, and his mantle is just not dropping for me. So my time is def worth 300 coins if I have easier monsters that I can reliably take out quickly.
The point is that some mantles have ridiculously low drops, like Espinas and his 3% global drop rate, and you'll eventually be sitting on those coins anyway, so it's a good addition regardless
Until you need a gaismagorm mantle, that is a long fight I don’t want to do 50 times
Frs im getting at least 2 mantles for each monster in the investigations lol
7:15 small correction here. I have not received a Valstrax mantle(Draonsphire) but it is still available to me. I verified this by looking at my hunter's notes and that material is still a ??? to me. So I think the materials will show as long as you have completed either one hunt, or a certain number of hunts with that monster.
💯% This.
I agree as well, As I've never got a magna eye yet it's on the list.
I'm nearly 50 Rathians deep and that mantle STILL eludes me.
Shows up in that coin menu as purchasable
@@oxybe Some people on Discord have all their Mantles in the shop but. I also see quite a few who don't...
I believe it’s 5, I hunted my 5th steve last night and the mantle immediately unlocked
About the mantles I don’t know what unlocks them because it isn’t “having one” for me:
-I can buy Goss Harag Bile+ despite never having fought Goss Harag in Master Rank
-I can buy Lunagaron’s Mantle despite never having obtained it.
-I am unable to buy Shagaru’s Mantle despite having two in my inventory,
-I am unable to buy Rajang Heart despite having obtained two earlier(I have since used both, but I have obtained it)
I think it has to do with fighting an equivalent monster in anomaly investigations (if it exists) and if you’re achieved a certain level. Prior to the the update I’d fought every MR a monster and only unlocked certain mangled after achieving certain anomaly investigation levels or obtaining the mantle itself. Everything should be unlocked my AI level of 81
It’s hunting that monster at least 5 times, can be of any rank
@@munchlacks2900 so they did implement a pity system. Cool!
Monster hunted 5+ times. It's hilarious seeing people complain about rng and their guild card shows 3 kills of said monster.
@@bacon098 *cries in goss harag bile
It seems like the mantles/rare drops become available after you've hunted that monster 5 times, and it has nothing to do with whether you've gotten one before or not. I have most of them unlocked, and the only ones that aren't there are from monsters I've hunted less than 5 times. Other than that, really helpful video! :)
thank you, why the game dont tell us that ??
It's hilarious to see people complain about rng and their guild card shows 3 of said monster hunted. If people can't farm a monster how are they going to farm those coins?
Five anomalies of said monster or just five hunts in HR/MR?
@@MTB4RNR yeah just 5 hunts in general, doesn't matter if they're anomalies or not.
how to get infinite coins: *the grind*
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I wish I could trade-in my mantles for investigation coins, I could be getting so many Outfit Voucher+ if that was the case, or other mantles that I might need. I have 5+ Mantles for a lot of monsters and I'm almost never going to actually use them, but they're worth so little in melding, it's basically a waste.
If u buy outfit voucher+ from the anomaly shop, do u only get 1 or do u get more than 1?
@@James.Munson06 Only 1.
I've had really bad luck trying to get a magmadron mantle, ~25 magma almudron hunted and not even one, but the mantle is still available to purchase from bahari. I've also gotten an Astalos mantle on my first hunt, but it isn't available. I think his stock is tied to how many monsters you've hunted and not what drops you've gotten.
Dude my first hunt I got his mantle which I have never needed but lunagarons mantle had me losing my mind to get😂🥲
When you break its tail, do you only break it once or do you make sure you’ve severed it?
Honestly wish his list also included gems and not just mantles. I've gotten mantles, but some weapons I want need to be upgraded from high rank and I am having awful gem luck.
Something to note when attempting to join a multiplayer investigation: Choose your desired target _before_ you choose the desired minimum level.
For some reason, if you try to enter the minimum level first, it resets back to 1 when you choose your target.
It's really annoying and initially made me think the Research Requests were broken.
i have never matched on "any" monster investigation with max level on pc. not sure what i'm doing wrong
Grinding a specific monster for its mantle might still be a lot faster than going for the same investigation quests again and again until you have enough coins. And it's less tedious imho.
For whoever finds this ancient video, this is actually bad advice
The time it will take you to fight research request monsters is usually way longer than it'd take you to just fight something like great izuchi solo over and over, you lose out on the +1 bonus and would need to do 10 runs instead of 5 (unless you luck out and roll izuchi, baggi or wroggi) but it's incredibly fast and risk free. Izuchi has something like 60k+ health even at higher levels which is super low compared to your general fare of 80-100k base, health is multiplied by an amount per player in the quest so if you end up in a 4 man quest vs an annoying monster and you and the others are scrubby at fighting it you will literally be there forever chipping away at like 250k health monsters just to get a measly 2 completion marks, so don't do that if you're in a hurry
Thanks for the tips but I don't think the mantles unlock like that. I don't have the Narwa mantle available but I've already got at least 3 of those because I have a complete Narwa armor set and multiple Narwa weapons.
Awesome video. Thanks as always. As always keep having fun guys.
Awesome video! Extremely descriptive! I'm late to the Sunbreak party, but your guides have been amazing, very descriptive, and your time stamps are absolutely amazing 👏 thank you 😁
0:29 So Bahari just has all these super rare materials just laying around? WTF!
'Wouldn't recommend buying the amber essence as I have a tonne of it in my inventory'
- he says, as if the rest of us aren't using truckloads of amber furiously rerolling RNG augments
He does kinda have a point. Even the high level A5 investigations usually give you 4-7 basic amber essences.
It's more resource efficient to just do a relatively easy investigation instead.
I generally stick with what I have on the first roll unless it's something bad, since I'm not absolutely crazy about min-maxing, though I have gotten lucky on some of my rolls.
I’ve been using the search system to get the right request. It also gives you a chance to get the investigation for the next hunt :)
Maybe I should have continued to watch the whole video 😆 my bad. Great video. I even learned something new
“If you can’t get it just buy one”
Me with 21 coins looking at the 500 coin Contrary Scale:
So I would like to point out that I never got an abyssal dragonsphire but they are showing up for trade for the investigation coins.
How do you unlocl the anomalu shop i already beat gaismagorm and still coudnt buy from bahari
I think the mantels are based on something else I had zinogre skymerald despite not having one till a few hunts ago. Narga mantel I don't have but it's in the list with bahari
1 question what the function of "delete quest" is it disappear forever or getting another quest, or will get same quest at higher level?
Whoever at Capcom decided you needed to farm and spend 3000 for Bahari's Windup Birdie deserves their characters wiped.
😂😂
I'm not so sure about requiring to get the mantle once to be able to buy it...
I never got a magmadron mantle ever, but after playing a lvl71 magmadron quest it appeared in the list.
i have never gotten a goss harag Bile+ or origin mantle and can buy both if i had the coins. so i dunno about the have to have gotten it first, i think you just need to have fought the monster.
I did that online Quest thing and for some reason it didnt count for me. I guess it bugged out or something.
Something g weird going on for me. If I join a online quest for the right no then and level, I never get anything to add a coin on the bonus request so that’s weird. Anyone had this issue?
How do you unlock the mantles?
The list of mantles doesn't seem to work properly. I don't have the Rajang heart in there, although I definitely have gotten one before.
Yeah same from me, I don't have the Gainsmagorm one either, even if I farmed for it three times
it’s based on anomaly levels. I started to get new mantle unlocks the more my level increased
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So the main objective for these hunts is to just destroy the afflicted monster as fast as possible? Or do I have to do partbreaks? Im running a wyvern ammo HBG build and it melts monsters but I am concerned of whether or not I need to partbreak if I want to get the most out of the investigations.
Part breaks are very valuable on afflicted monsters. Increases your chances of getting additional afflicted parts.
Came here hoping to stop farming the stupid narwa for the mantle, found out i have to drop it once before. Rip.
Hunt it 5 times and it'll unlock, you don't actually need to get the drops.
You don't need to have seen the mantle before, you just have to have fought the monster.
This reminds me of monster hunter world: iceborne the person that you were able to get mantle's before
I feel like it would be faster to just actually hunt for the part you need rather than do all that effort for the coins. At the moment, I only do those as a side thing while leveling up and never my focus.
Hunt the infected version of the monster you need. If you fail 150 times in a row then you can buy the mantle. And you will be very happy that it is an option.
@@DaleIsWigging That's what I'm doing. I guess I didn't clarify it in my comment. Lol.
I just learned, you can rise and lower hunts level.
Is infinite the max you can get? You use infinite a lot in your videos. So. You are saying there is no cap on how many coins you can get? Thanks! Just wondering.
That can't be right. I am %1000 positive I've never gotten a Nargacuga mantle, I've been trying to get one for the longest and I've been hyper focused on checking for it after every Narga hunt and shiny pickup. Yeah I just checked and it's still "???" on the parts list in my hunters notes. Same for Epinas and gore magala mantles and they too are on my Bahari list.
I have a similar thing going on,
I can buy Mizu, Goss, Zin, and Lunagaron “Mantles” despite never having got them.
And even tho I’ve got Rajang Hearts, Shagaru Mantles and Magma Mantles I can’t buy them.
Apparently, it might be that you have to hunt 5 of that monster in Master Rank.
See I actually haven't gotten a mantle of origin but I can still trade for it...
Sorry Hollow, but that is misinformation.
I have never gotten the Valstrax or Ibushi Mantle, yet I have them in the shop...
Yet I don't have the Mantles of FB, Allmother, or Scorned Magnamalo...
So sorry to be that guy, Hollow, but you're wrong there.
i was wondering why he wasn't selling scorned magnamalo's rare item >.
bruh I remember I have to slay like 20 rathalos for the mantle
I kill the specifics monster mantle by the Luck build
Anomaly quest are my favorite tbh.
I really just hate the metal rath’s. Like f***in, too much hp, too much damage and too much flying like DAAAAAAAAAMN! LOOK AT THAT FuckIN HEALTH POOL!
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Skill issue just do more damage
@@mydrillasanjay5397 number 15: Skill issue. Just do more damage
the funniest is when you star that system and he tells you "hunt x monster at x level" for the first time but... it just so happens that ti's physically impossible to get that monster to that level in under 4 quests. no, before anyone says anything, this will happen because you can only join quests up to a specific rank unless you have a lobby i guess where a friend has the one you want so till you have the rank grind progressed to a certain point you will miss out on a lot of these.
yep, same as the old MHW system, you have to have been blessed by RNJesus once already then you can use this to bypass his cruel whims.
I actually just reset my weapon upgrades instead of farming more xd
I have enough money :0
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Be the gunner. They die the best!
Some of the research quests give you 100 coins, not just 50
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The multplayer never works for me
Soooo this is a bit of a dumb question but do you need to Hunt every monster in a multi monster hunt? Or will killing the Afflicted monster be enough? I know normally that’s the case but idk about anomaly investigations
Kill everything, they wouldnt put it there just for fun
Gotta kill them all, but you can capture the non afflicted monsters, in case you want to cut out about 15% of the fight.
The charge blade set in the furious rajang arena quest has less defence than the gunner set btw
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True, but gunner weapons take more damage in general due to being ranged
pudding need 100 coin why
Imagine using 25 coins to get an armor sphere; the trade amounts make 0 sense.
Yeah, I don't understand
Or 50 coins for an outfit voucher+... when you can just clear any anomaly quest (or the TU1 monsters) for free outfit vouchers+.
Ooooh this is interesting. Can everyone please catch me up to speed on what's happening in Sunbreak please?
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I never got mantle of origins and I can buy it ,so this is wrong in vid that depends if you ever got one or not.And yes I checked even materials in large Monsters and Allmother got 2 hidden materials which I never got which must be a Mantle and something else. I was trying to farm one for last 10 Allmothers and nothing.
maybe it is something particular for narwa and ibushi, I need some mantles from other monsters (like magma almudrom) that I never found and I can't meld them, they are not available for me in the list.
And moreover, the mantles from the new added monsters aren't available, at least in this update. I found a mantle from lucent nargacuga and I don't have it available for melding in the list
@@samuele3041 yeah I just checked with magma almudron. No Mantle to buy for me too. But I can buy Valstrax Mantle and never got one too. Maybe there are some fixed monsters or something. If it’s true what he says than it’s even better to unlock new mantles to buy 👍🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@@Adrian-L3x4 Reading all the other comments the Bahari list is bugged or there's a criteria for unlocking the mantles and rare items that we still don't understand.
Maybe for monsters of a certain tier it's unlocked by default and for other there is something involving their afflicted version or something else, but who knows, I can be, and probably I am, completely wrong xD
@@samuele3041 yeah I know what you mean 😅. The only thing is just to enjoy playing while something hopefully at some point will unlock.👍🏻
I can’t w/ this arena bs smh…you might as well not play the game 🤷♂️
This makes me sad.
new farm method!!!!
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Perfect timing 👌🏻
I don't know if that mantle comment is true. I can by ibushis but I'm pretty sure I didn't get one in the one hunt I've done with him so far
What a watse of time just hunt for the mantle you need so much quicker dont bother for coins. I have nearly 100 to 150 weapons i. Game almost all need a mantle to lvl 9 or 10 150× 150 =22500 coins ive done 200 master rank quest and only need like 5 -10 mantles to finish all weapons its more annoying getting afflicted bones pelts and blood. They wait for game to really put the grind out
This is amazing! I actually need so many coins!
On anomaly investigation, bring peart breaker, every part break you get on ANY monster you get the same reward as picking up an aflicted resource point
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I think the glare eye magnamalo or something like that doesn't available en the trade even you get it for the first time 😭
This video was rather useless, and just seems to state obvious bits of information that everyone can easily figure out just by spending a short time with the Title Update.