When Your Flight Sim Hobby Spirals Out of Control!
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- Опубліковано 5 тра 2024
- This is a tour of my new VR flight simulator cockpit setup as I go deep into the world of virtual reality aviation. Join me as I explore each component of the rig, from the Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro to the Virpil peripherals, and go through the highs and lows of a flight sim setup like this. As well as a few handy tips.
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In the Video:
Flight Seat Pro
Aftershock PC (On Loan)
Meta Quest 3 amzn.to/4b6z7mi
Pimax Crystal (On Loan) pimax.com/?ref=g-locmedia
Virpil Products: virpil-controls.eu/shop (non-affiliated)
Virpil Control Panel
Virpil Mongoose Stick (Provided)
Virpil Rudders (Provided)
Virpil Mongoose Throttle (Provided)
On the main cockpit
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Graphics card is a 7900XTX
Here's a tip. You can mount the Virpil base backwards so the cable is tucked away. Just invert your axis in-game :)
Great video, G-LOC, I love how you're getting straight to the facts, and no BS. I would LOVE for you to do a comparison of the virpil and winwing pedals, as I'm in the market for them. I know that both me and a lot of my friends, who will be at the same aeronautics school next year, would also love to see a virpil mongoos joystick-base review. Keep it up :)
Thanks mate. I shall add those videos to the line up.
A virpil/winwing rudder pedals comparaison would be incredible ! Super video !
Thanks mate. The full comparison video is not on the list. Thanks for letting me know
Love my scan 3xs 4090 78003dX system. And hp reverb g2 vr. Nice setup mate
Thanks mate.
Love your setup. Mine is very similar. Its such a blast.
Thanks mate
Oh child.. welcome to the club!
Sweet build ❤
Thanks dan
That’s more like it 😊
I fly for real and to me vr is the real deal -it’s as real as it gets .
Regards
Dave from Cupar
You run a VR headset?
Also is that Cupar, Fife?
@@g-locmedia
Yeah Cupar near St Andrews
@@g-locmedia yeah still using the hp reverb pro 😀
@@davidmuir6849 is that before the G2?
I run a rift s with a 3060ti in dcs and I have a blast works great ill upgrade when or if my rift dies lol
i14900k 4080 Super Meta Quest 3. Works pretty good. I can’t wait to upgrade vr headset.
Thanks. Meta quest 3 is pretty good but can't match the pimax in terms of clarity
Can you use the but kicker to simulate the stall buffet in DCS? Cheers.
I recently built a new pc for and got a Pimax crystal. My pc build is an ASUS X670e AMD Ryzen 7800X3D with a Radeon RX7900XTX and 64 gigs of DDR 5 ram. Works amazing 👌
That's a bit of a beast
Few comments regarding VR and (Pimax being a threshold for VR):
HP Reverb G2 is 200-300usd used, resolution is great for gauges and simracing. Saved dollars could be used for 4080/4090.
BigscreenVR - great resolution for flying and racing. Night flying over MSFS and racing on a motion platform - that's the best.
Quest3 + VTOL VR = best combo to start flying. You don't even need HOTAS! A simple display-port would make it absolute winner. Fingers crossed for Pico5.
I'm with you on most of that but the resolution and clarity on the g2 for me is far from acceptable. A good example is the wind meter on the g1000. I used the G2 for years for simracing and loved it but I can't look at charts and and see the smaller things on the dash. It's the future though keen to see where it goes.
1:17 It can be cheap if it's a brand you trust like cable matters and is the correct standrand.
Cable matters. Is that a US brand?
Talking about spirraling out of control... This is actually pretty tame. Once you get yourself a motion platform you will know the pain of spiraling out of control.
Other than that... nice rig, Love virpil setup, got similar myself, and they are real good.
I do have a motion setup. I guess the title refers to the fact I've got two cockpit now and it's a follow on from a previous video.
Great video, how did you get the two throttle mounts that are small with no large mount with mouse space? All of the other videos I see they have one smaller mount and one bigger mount for an optional mouse pad config? I prefer it the way you have it, just curious how you were able to get a different mount.
I have two of these. The extra plate was from the main setup.
@@g-locmedia oh ok gotcha
I use virpil hotas with ace peddels. I want the dampener and seeing in action means will get it sooner..
The damper makes a hell of a difference
2:33 I maxed out my Quest 3 with virtural desktop too with a 3090 so any 40/50 series should be fine to max it out as well.
I actually don't use virtual desktop. I'm gonna give it a shot now you've said that.
@@g-locmedia definetly worth a shot I feel like you have to do so much less tinkering than you do with the link cable
What happend to your previous mega cool 3 screen motion force feedback setup?
I still have it. It shows up near the end of this video. That setup ain't going anywhere.
Vp force feedback stick then add a bit of motion :)
How's the VP force? Is it great?
@@g-locmedia yes really adds what's missing tbh especially in the WW2 planes and helis
What was the USB hub that you settled on as the best?
Was a TPLINK powered USB hub.
One word, BoboVR for your Quest 3. Also, Virtual Desktop over WiFi 6e and Snapdragon upscaling makes things much sharper on PCVR.
I shall try that. Doers it really make a difference over WIFI?
@@g-locmedia yes, the sharpness is really noticeable compared to the Meta Link. I don't have a WiFi 6e router, so I use an access point that is then dedicated to the Quest 3. This is the model I use:
TP-Link AXE5400 Tri-Band Mesh Wi-Fi 6E Range Extender, Broadband/Wi-Fi Extender, Wi-Fi Booster/Hotspot with 1 Gigabit Port, 160 MHz Channels, Built-In Access Point Mode.
It is currently on sale from AmazonUK for 119.99
@@g-locmediamuch sharper than Meta Link. I use a dedicated wi-fi access point for the quest 3, the TP-Link AXE5400, it is currently on sale for 119.99 on a certain retailer that if i mentioned would probably get this comment pulled.
What USB hub did you go for in the end? tnx
It was a TPLINK
What headphones are you using? Would you recommend them?
Razer Bkackshark 2 pros the V2 version. I LOVE them.
7:42 I mean I pick up my Quest 3 load a game and play... It's no hearder then a phone or another game console... My main issue with VR today is just how funky games are with set up like guys we figured this out 20 years ago on pC and console why is VR such a mess?
I think it's starting to get better this and quite quickly.
Just curios wich of USB hub did you mount?
It's was a TPLINK powered USB hub. Cost about 80AUD.
@@g-locmedia Cheers!
8:24 I heavly disagree... I thought the Rift CV1 was great and the quest 3 is perfect like it is 4k on two displays about an inch from your eyes....
I can't read the smaller elements on the dials, some of the switch names. A great example is the wind instrument on the g1000 in msfs. It's quite small. I can make it out on the pimax but not the quest 3.
Im on high settings in dcs 3080
max settings almost in wwarthunder
msfs2020 high settings
all 90 to 120 hz using quest 3 and Virtual dekstop to play wirelessly
works great, you need a wifi 6 router
get a third party battery starp for the counterwieght in VR
How do you find the wireless experience? Is there any lag?
@@g-locmediaiv been playing wireless since 2020 aha
It’s better thank linked in my
Opinion
But I’d recommend a decent wifi6 router
Virtual desktop also helps with sync warp filling in this frames to get you
To 120hz if needed and it works great
You just need a dedicated WiFi 6 router hooked to the tv
The process is really easy
@@g-locmedia also no lag and maybe a 1 percent stutter you might never notice lol
@@yokoh691 man I'm giving it a go. I've seen it so many times in the menu and just ignored it.
@@g-locmedia it helps! Hope it all works well, love the content
It’s informative and relaxing aha
8:53 ? It's not hard right click, display settings, turn off displayX3... And have you tryed just running it to see? Like I ran that on my 3090 no difference...
I am led to believe that they need to be physically disconnected connected. Also I have 5 displays attached. The second I remove one display from the setup, when I reconnect it I have to adjust all the displays again
If you enjoy VR, go straight for a 4090 if you can afford it. It makes the entire experience so much better. My setup is very similar with a NLR motion V3 and now I couldn't be happier
Thanks for the advice.How much ram are you running?
@@g-locmedia 64gb is plenty for DCS
I’m A PC idiot and yet I wouldn’t mind upgrading to a better system. Can you simplify for me what I would buy for my VR DCS Experience🙏 4090?
@@kenthigginbotham9716 What VR headset will you be running?
@@g-locmedia Quest meta 3 and thank you! Is it the Nvidia 4090 pc or is that just a video card?
Nice rigs by the way it's just you need to research and tinker with this stuff and all the issues in the video will go away.
Thanks mate. What issues are you referring to?
14900k 32gb 5600 ddr5 RTX 4090
DCS maxed - 1.5 pixel density
MSFS 100 FPS
Asus Wifi6 router - Airlink buttery smooth
At this time it pretty much eats anything you throw at it - but youd also expect it too
That system soundS like its ruining sweet for VR
I'm waiting until the RTX 5090 comes out before I do anything in regards to VR. Until then I just get sick thinking about using VR.
What do you mean you get sick thinking about it?
Lol. Now I get you. Yea the 5090 might be what these headsets finally need to get the most out of them. Although along will come new headsets with even more resolution. Either way it's an exciting time to be a flight summer.
I'm a wuss when it comes to inner-ear movement. Theme park's and me don't get along well. That and VR. Until everything is a steady 120/4K I just can't do it.
The 5090 is rumored to be at least 40% stronger than the 4090. Maybe more, plus more V-Ram. Just what VR needs to rock.
Next will be 8K for monitors/TVs/VR. Those will be good times when the hardware can support that resolution. No looking back then!
@@RobertHopkinsArt 100%. I too have difficulty if VR is running lower than 90fps.
Get bobovr headstrap for meta, it’ll change your opinion
Bobo VR. I've seen that. You have one? Do you rate it?
@@g-locmedia yeah, I got mine a couple months ago, absolute game changer, cant recommend Meta without it
@@g-locmedia I've got the BoboVR M2 Pro for the Quest 2. It's incomparable to the awful default strap. The weight is much more on top of the head, which is way better, also helped by the counterweight battery, which balances out the normally front-heavy headset. As a result, you don't have to strap the headstrap down as tightly, which is way more comfortable.
The only real downside is that you can no longer lean your head back against something.
But with all of these headstraps, your experience will vary based on the shape of your head and your personal preferences. Most people seem to get along well with the Bobo VR, though.
Note that for the Quest 3, you can get the BoboVR M3 Pro or the S3 Pro. The latter has a built-in fan. So if you get sweaty in the headset, you might want that one.
@@g-locmedia I've got one for the Q3 and its like night & day vs. the awful original strap. Well worth it.
@@JP-1962 I'll look in to that
I saved $ on my CPU after all the Reviews on the AMD R7 5800X3D on the M-4 (Socket Type) Motherboards I have 64GB and the power house Geforce RTX 4090 Gigabyte AERO VR in DCS. I am Very Happy with it. All Virpil Gear with MFG Crosswind Rudder peds. With Damper For now I run a HP G2 (Pre Order in for the new Pimax PC only) I only Play DCS World. It works like butter in DCS. Out of Control? I don't get it.. I got a Gallon of milk in the Refrigerator and a loaf of Bread for this week. I'm Good to go.
This is simulator no 2 that's what I was referring to out of control. The next pimax should be good with a bit less weight. Also good to know it's running well on the 5800X3D
I too have a 5800x3D and a 4090 but only 32GB of ram. Do you notice the difference the extra 32GB makes in DCS and or MSFS?
@@g-locmedia Lol I fallow you so sorry I knew that ha ha We are all out of control with Rigs and Gear.
@@MrScott_e Sorry I do not do MSFS just DCS The Honest Truth is I have read a lot of people say 32 will do and work just fine and for a long time I ran 32 and I jumped to 64 when I went to the 5800X3D If it is better it would be in loading time (on the correct type of HD) or more to have in regards to some Background loading of other programs you might run with DCS or MSFS like VoiceAttack or any other programs even recording and video editing is better with 64 I make a lot of Custom Sound files for DCS also. With 64 you can run a higher Page File size too. it all helps. lol You can never have to much Ram but 32 is still good and gets the job done for 80 to 90% of all your needs I bet.
@@dishdoggiegaming7254 I've got 64 in my other system. Can't tell the difference.
You specified RTX 4090, but within your PC we can see Radeon...
My mistake. I copied the wrong spec over on the graphics card. I'll put a pinned comment up for that. It's actually a 7900XTX. thanks for highlighting mate.
Strange copy-paste error…
@@jango71 I looked back to original the email sent when discussing with aftershock. I copied the wrong spec list although the only difference was the graphics card.
@@jango71 I copied from the wrong spec lost aftershock gave me when I was first communicating with them about a loaner PC. The only difference was the graphics card though.