There is no ‘shortage’ of tech talent in 2024-25. Look at all the tech employees (including H1Bs) who got fired in the last 2 years. They are still looking for jobs. So where is the shortage?
Look up a paper by Eric Winstein titled, "How and Why Government, Universities, and Industry Create Domestic Labor Shortages of Scientists and High-Tech Workers" because it's all a fat lie. They don't WANT to hire American labor - they want cheaper foreign servants.
@terry3944 not much. But even so, Biden made a new loophole for them to stay 6 months longer after being fired. They are now allowed to switch to B1/B2 visitor visa and apply for jobs. This just made the applicant pool bigger and nearly impossible for Americans to get their resumes seen.
The most UnAmerican thing we could possibly do is, not training Americans to be American engineers! What can you do for Americans. Not the rest of the world. Only by seeing what we do in America can the rest of the world observe the best way to be.
We have enough engineers who are unemployed in tech areas due to layoffs and their jobs were then given to Indians on H1B via H1B transfer...no big deal...
@@metalgearrocketarm That's absolutely right. I'm one of those Americans. I started feeling the harm of H1B 22 years ago during the technology crash. I wonder why it took so many years for this to finally become common knowledge.
As a Chinese , I need to point something out. It’s widely acknowledged that China is catching up to the U.S. in terms of technological advancement, and our manufacturing capabilities have already surpassed those of the U.S. significantly. Do we rely on Indian engineers in China? No, we don’t. We’ve achieved this progress through the efforts of our own citizens-our engineers and workforce-without the help of Indian or Western talent. The U.S. should recognize that the key to sustaining its competitiveness lies in strengthening STEM education, eliminating distractions like DEI from the education system, and prioritizing investment in its own citizens.
I'm half white and half korean. if Indians are so smart, why is it their country is a shole? Why can't they go home and build their country to make it look like America?
It's creating jobs in many different ways for Americans actually. Attorneys, Visa officers, USCIS employees, Airline employees, realtors , tax professionals and many more. People are earning money by renting their properties too. There is an enormous amount of economic activity going on
This program cannibalizes an entire industry. It increases the supply of engineers and by doing so makes it impossible for new US grads to get work and puts more than 1 Million tech workers in unemployment lines at any given time. Doubling H1B visas will half the tech workers pay if not make them unemployed immediately
I seen the opposite, it takes away jobs. I'm in the tech sector and seen our departments with workers here being laid off, new positions open but with a very low salary company complain its hard to fill positions so H1b visas are needed, foreign workers fill the job but for a much lower pay.
Very expensive to maintain. I know lots of friends who trained their replacement from India H1B. 1 American talent = 5 Indian talent. They developed lots of applications and trained the indians how to maintain them in exchange for severance pay. I heard its about 1 year. That was in 2010. I don't k now about now.
They're not going to because it's cheaper to offshore or import cheaper workers. Calling us dumb and lazy is just the line they came up with to avoid admitting they're illegally discriminating against hiring American workers.
We do not need more H1B tech workers in the US. We have a lot of smart tech American workers who are out of job now. These companies need to hire Americans first. It is not fair for Americans who spend so much money to attend college here and afterwards they couldn’t land a job. These two who support H1B visa are probably pay by those greedy corporations.
@@wdggkerbzWith German, Japanese, Chinese engineers . you are not special. For all chest thumping you are still a 3rd world nation who can only put up a fight with Pakistan. You are nowhere close to compete against china /japan let alone USA
Under H-1B, applicants can file for the H4 status for children and spouses. This is how chain migration starts. Even if there are 85k H-1B, there’s more people being admitted beyond H-1B. Technologies developed under those on H-1B is also negligible. If we want to bring in top-talent, have people start applying under the O1 visa which is a non-immigrant visa but allows people to change employers.
yes this think need to be change but USA cant completely stop h1b visa program because its Indian multi billion dollar tech giant like TCS, Wipro give the most number of h1b visa which hire european origin usa employee as well (Indian company's had invested over $40 Billion Dollar in USA in in last 10 years )out of which 20% in IT and Software technology sector meaning close to $8 Billion Dollar.
- People can switch jobs on H1 - O1 is for extraordinary. High skilled(H1) has a different connotation than extraordinary. Both have different needs and capacity requirements, don’t conflate these. - H4 is not chain migration. If h1 loses job and leaves country, the associated h4 will have to do the same. None of the H visas cause migration on its own. They have to apply for GC and wait like everyone else. Without the path to GC not many would’ve come to the US in the first place and you wouldn’t be sitting in an enriched tech space and be able to type this comment
I agree that a mix of different cultures and philosophies create a stronger and more diverse country and economy. However, when banks, communications providers, and other corporations hire outside staffing located in another country, how is that practice making our country better? That customer service department located in India or that collections department located in the Philippines-how is that contributing to the USA? They don't live here nor shop here, they are just benefitting from an American job. Why can't they get special Visas in order to live here? I totally agree with the visa employee system, but not the system where a large corporation hires a foreign staffing group because they can pay them so much less than someone who lives here.
Why are you making all no people management skills as people managers in all organizations which screws up life of everyone working in America. If you bring for technical skills just purely use them for technical roles only, it's crime against humanity make these guys as people managers.
@@neerajs.kholiya3934 I immigrated in the 80s. I was 9 years old. The advents of Indians destroyed traditional American culture that has been around for 270 years. California does not look America anymore. It looks like India.
@kitten7258-s3b I had friends that had to train their Indian replacement. How does that make sense unless are cheaper. Companies like Infosys and Tata got rich by outsourcing.
Offer work visa only. Don't offer citizenship. None of middle East countries give citizenship. Still they are getting the best talents. So at the time of joining the job itself their mindset will be to go and settle in their own countries. You will not have to deport them nor u will not have any legal struggle
H1b visa is not citizenship. Of course if you lived lawfully in the US for a certain period of time, you van apply for green card or citizenship. That's how h1bs get greencard and eventually citizenship
Citizen or not, you are required to pay taxes. W2 are done each paycheck 1099 or other forms depends, but you have to pay even with ITIN@edenwoodssprings6687
As a black man that voted 3rd party this is yet another reason why the Democrat party is headed down the tubes. Both parties just doing the biddinbgof corporations. One day us working people on the right and left might actually come together tonreally do something spectacular.
The people most harmed by these visas and this type of immigration are minorities. Not only is there an uphill climb to obtain education and compete against white peers, but HB-1 further displace minorities when migrants are offered wages they jump for joy at. Ex. Indians physicians earn around $10,000 to $25,000 in their country, but in the U.S. as a new doctor, they can earn $150K and up. Someone in the U.S. with high student loans, (which holds for most birthright minorities) is severely disadvantaged when they have to compete against migrants willing to take a “low” wage while on a visa.
Exactly. And reduce it to proportion. India holding 70% of the designations is dangerously skewed towards another southern border invasion crises. We subsidize the immigrant on the HB-1 and then all the derivatives they bring along. How many foreign countries does the average U.S. taxpayer have to carry?! Insanity!! The entire cost burden should be assessed to the firm requesting importation.
@@stevenhenry5267Nationalist. Big difference, genius. Immigrants on these programs harm the education admissions and employment numbers for American minorities.
H1b visa fix. If a company uses it, they have to pay that exceptional, you can't find an american equivalent employee, 20% - 30% over average pay for the position you are filling. Since the are so valuable, then prove it.
A lot of democrats are on the MAGA side of this issue, including me. You rubes elected the oligarch Elon Musk, and now he’s undermining American workers. “America First” is a scam
As a professional that is now qualified to a job most H1 - B people have, because they don’t have the needed certs to be placed on a project, I find it very interesting how I don’t have many calling for a job I’m not qualified to have. Knowing that, this conversation is highly invalid and is about cheap labor and culture preference. NO ONE wants to explain why my field is still outsourced to India when the company is in the US and why I can’t just apply and work remote for that job or right in India. Social media clout at this point..
If you really believe it is valuable without the indentured servitude aspect, reform it to no longer be indentured servitude. Make it possible to switch jobs. I’ll be happy to support it then. I value immigration that’s fair. If you don’t want to reform it to create an even playing field, then we know why you really like it. Wharton school, eh? Figures.
Good for you! ❤ the argument about HB-1 is not about racism; it’s about nationalism. Americans are tired of carrying the world on our backs. That’s why no one voted for Harris.
@@PowderedMunchkins no affiance, before I came to USA. it’s my dream start my entrepreneurial-ship journey. Faced lot of challenges in terms of visa regulations. Fun fact holding H1b is not easy. You will put your family away for decades. Just To chase dreams. Image you missing your family time for decades. And top of that we are facing racism. Image of world would run on non dollar currency. I’m sure no one would come to USA. For chasing dreams. Trust me most people won’t come to USA just to earn money. Most imaging that earring in dollar can give them opportunity to expand their company to different countries. Or to enhance standard of living. Trust me after de dollarization people will stop coming to USA. Period! Then Americas can stay happily!
They only work hard because they need to keep their jobs to not get deported. This isn't about racism. I'm a Latino immigrant (naturalized), but I'm unemployed and the H1B system is not helping. Tech companies laid off hundreds of thousands of people, and yet, there's not enough engineers? Come on fam, you know that's bs. These guests don't know what they're talking about. The studies he cited had nothing to do with the reality that there is actually a SURPLUS of tech workers. We don't need to bring more people in. Again, it's not about hate. It's about Americans having jobs. Or, do you want the homelessness rate to continue to go up? Serious question.
Agreed. Immigrants are vital to America. We should allow more migrants here not less. Diversity makes us stronger and keep us the greatest country in the world. We have the best and smartest immigrants in the world.
Expanding immigration through H1B visas without considering the effects on local workers, wages, and gentrification is short-sighted. The advantages for tech billionaires are evident, but it likely comes at a cost for local workers .
True. But there's a bad way of doing everything, and H-1B visas are a bad way of hosting immigration. If the US ends H-1B visas, the US can still invite as many technology immigrants as the country needs, by issuing permanent resident visas to the workers instead. "H-1B" means "indentured servitude". An unintelligble abbreviation is used because the political people don't want the public to know what they are doing. H-1B immigrants are not given an invitation to stay in the US on a permanent basis. They are admitted for just long enough to depress wages. Then, if they cannot get a better visa, they are required to leave.
How many millions of foreign citizens do you want to force the American people to take in. How many millions? How many? Best and smartest? we all know you are a fraud with that statement.
All the companies recruit large amounts of H1-B need to provide thorough recruit stats of all applicants with citizenship/permanent status, qualifications, education backgrounds, experiences level, and rejects vs acceptance. Once you have this stats, the officials can audit any of the H1-B applicants, so to justify the system overall.
Unamerican BS. Based on Average salaries, $14,240,305,000 BILLION in wages paid to foreign workers when Americans are being laid off. 85,000 H-1B Visas as of January 2025, H-1B visa salaries in the United States are as follows: Top earners: $206,500 per year, or $17,208 per month 75th percentile: $192,000 per year, or $16,000 per month Average: $167,533 per year, or $13,961 per month 25th percentile: $141,000 per year, or $11,750 per month
@@ThomasRosehands Indians only hire their own kind. Go to Bayarea. They hire 1 chinese, 1 white, 1 black, and the rests are Indians. Why? EEO complaint prevention.
@@ThomasRosehands oh, it’s cheap. Americans at skilled salary ranges demand considerably more than these ranges - unless the competition is Chinese; in that case wages outpace even the highest earning white Americans. This isn’t an issue of labor costs. It’s about the loss of labor and skilled workforce opportunities for tax-paying, birthright citizens. If these people are so interested in this country, why do they only pursue high paying jobs once they do become citizens? Why not take menial, average American jobs where this an ACTUAL shortage. I.e. farm labor, or military? H1-B is archaic and needs to go along with the barnacles it’s welcomed. Musk included.
Let’s also not forget that approximately 40% of domestic physicians are East Asian or Chinese. They take the slots in medical schools, and when on HB-1, it’s taxpayers, not sponsors, who are required to subsidize their arrival. In India, medical school costs can range from $1000 to $5000 a year whereas total debt for an American often ranges between $100K to $400K. Who has the implicit advantage? It’s heinous.
Pretty sure that scrapping slavery "limited economic growth," so maybe "economic growth" shouldn't be a meaningful factor driving the economy and maybe we need to move from this economic system into something sustainable that isn't society-wrecking.
There are false things said about H1B Visa,many people coming on H1B Visa are already working for USA software clients in india and they come to America to do further work.Most critical software for America like airport systems, bank systems are run and managed from Indian IT companies. If H1B Visa is banned then software companies will shift to india imagine critical software like operating systems and compilers developed in India.
No. You’re wrong. Reducing the H-1B leech would only boost the domestic economy. Since many American firms are engaged in the dirty business of tax inversion, Trump, within his tax plan will introduce measures which would disincentivize offshoring and labor outsourcing. If H-1B visas are reduced, the free market would course-correct. Domestic tech corporations especially (like Baby Musk’s) would be forced to offer competitive wages to American workers as the labor supply for specialized jobs would tighten. Short run, while this would likely lead to higher wages in certain sectors, consumer prices would also rise as companies pass on the increased labor costs. However, the revenue from these higher prices would stay within the U.S. and benefit the domestic economy instead of foreign markets. In the long run, this could strengthen the middle class, reduce reliance on foreign labor, and promote job growth within the U.S. despite possible inflationary pressures. The net effect would be a more self-sustaining economy with a stronger domestic labor force and better propelled classes of American collegiate graduates.
"America is for Americans," but what does it mean to become American? Is it by being born in America to immigrants, since almost everyone in America has immigrant parents? Fascinating. It seems more like a cult than a country: "I made it, you stay out!" I say this because Indians stand out; everyone knows they are immigrants. Yet, a European on the same visa is never assumed to be an immigrant. Current Americans probably think they look the same and probably came with their parents or forefathers. Yes, Indians can stay in their own country, but so could have all the people who came to America in the past and gave birth to the current Americans who are now hating H1B holders.
Nobody is hating them. We are hating the implied convo saying american workers are lazy or somehow inferior to the point that they want to expand the H1b program. The reality is they are only looking for cheaper labor that cant talk back because if they get fired they have to leave the country.
Sriram Krishnan was into crypto over the last few years (just see his latest videos). Krishnan being AI czar, is really about pushing crypto deregulation. So this is a real reason to be suspicious of Krishnan's appointment. X intends to start handling crypto in payment, but it requires approval for each state. And there are significant barriers to this between U.S. states, so I am sure the reason for pushing this appointment is create Federal regulation to prevent states from controlling this very volatile investment currency. States have always had rights in regards to investments, in order to protect investors and consumers, so this appointment is all about pushing crypto, and maybe making several hundred billion off of it.
You mean the corporations can't make money off of Americans anymore? So they need to import slaves instead? Oh and when these foreign " slaves" retire and some go back to their own countries, they take their knowledge with them making the US import more " slaves". Saw this with engineering. Guess what? You just made China and India rich instead, since that money ALMOST ALWAYS get sent home. It doesn't do anything for American economies.
Now non-Indian CS workers including fresh graduates are hard to find a job due to Indian only hiring Indian. These guys are still talking about increasing H1 visa for India. What a pity for American.
Let the H1B visas take the Computer Science jobs from Your son who studied the same thing, but the manager from the company is from India and didn't think your kid had the right skills, but Suckdeep from Bangalore just happened to have the "right skills" wink wink... And when your son gets laid off during a mass layoff and the immigrants on H1B are kept...no big deal...
@metalgearrocketarm Who cares about that. All of you Tech nerds are left-wing lunatics anyway. Everybody has known for a very long time that East Indian Hindus are going to replace you.
how about use those money to pay for the millions in medical debt or suffering from housing crisis instead of the making Alphabet mafia look even more a$$ than they already have become.
How many college/university enrollment spots do democrats running these institutions sell to foreign applicants over US citizens who pay for these institutions?
They intentionally missed the point. It isn't not wanting people coming to the US. It is about importing cheap indentured labor. give them a green card and normal pay
Thank you for this presentation. It. has helped me understand more fully what this H-1B program is about and the need to make it more flexible rather than come against it.
Read instead of listen. You’re a sheep if you learn economic theory from another person. Economics is based largely on personal ideology. This guy is another Keynesian. Dime a dozen and the reason Harris and Bidenomics are gone.
When you realize Trump and Biden age are only 4 year apart, yet Trump talks and acts like he is 50.... 😂 and y’all say Joe Biden’s mental health is top notch.
Also if someone think company should hire american only, these will cause company to reallocate to the country of talent. Therefore one should look at the possibilities of fixing the loophole rather than shutting down the program. Also this H1-B issue reflects the hatred (racism) towards Indian in American society. If the discussion was only pivoted to H1-B, it would have been fine. Also who is the real American?
Both H1-B visa and green card process needs to be amended. People from India has to be on H1-B visa for long time since the green card waiting time for Indian is quite high (for India, waiting time could be 20 years whereas other country has to wait for 2-3 years for the same skill). Therefore people from India on H1-B visa has to be on mercy of company to stay in this country. These cause exploitation of H1-B folks from India. Also H1-B tied to Green Card to move to others job or even move up the ladder, since the green card us tied to the job description at the time of filing green card. If the waiting time is 20 years for Indian, think of the pain people go through, not just that so much risk in terms of keeping the job and maintaining the status.. it is excruciating.
This is really a good discussion. One important point is America is a growing pie not a shrinking one. Let's give a controlled freedom to these immigrants and then see what they can do. They are ready to align their neurons for MAGA but due to unnecessary fear mongering by some the legal immigrants are stopped of their potential.
As far as salary is concerned, the H1-B requires LCA certification from DOL which ensures the salary is not less for the position/skill/location, therefore if they are underpaid I assume DOL needs to revise the salary requirement.
Both H1-B visa and green card process needs to be amended. People from India has to be on H1-B visa for long time since the green card waiting time for Indian is quite high (for India, waiting time could be 20 years whereas other country has to wait for 2-3 years for the same skill). Therefore people from India on H1-B visa has to be on mercy of company to stay in this country. These cause exploitation of H1-B folks from India. Also H1-B tied to Green Card to move to others job or even move up the ladder, since the green card us tied to the job description at the time of filing green card. If the waiting time is 20 years for Indian, think of the pain people go through, not just that so much risk in terms of keeping the job and maintaining the status.. it is excruciating.
There is no ‘shortage’ of tech talent in 2024-25. Look at all the tech employees (including H1Bs) who got fired in the last 2 years. They are still looking for jobs. So where is the shortage?
They won't work for minimum wage.
A lot of those fired tech workers were on H1B
If they were so great they would stay home and create great companies. 300k tech workers laid off in last 2 years.
Look up a paper by Eric Winstein titled, "How and Why Government, Universities, and Industry Create Domestic Labor Shortages of Scientists and High-Tech Workers" because it's all a fat lie. They don't WANT to hire American labor - they want cheaper foreign servants.
@terry3944 not much. But even so, Biden made a new loophole for them to stay 6 months longer after being fired. They are now allowed to switch to B1/B2 visitor visa and apply for jobs. This just made the applicant pool bigger and nearly impossible for Americans to get their resumes seen.
The most UnAmerican thing we could possibly do is, not training Americans to be American engineers!
What can you do for Americans. Not the rest of the world. Only by seeing what we do in America can the rest of the world observe the best way to be.
We have enough engineers who are unemployed in tech areas due to layoffs and their jobs were then given to Indians on H1B via H1B transfer...no big deal...
You can't train someone to become engineer..😂😂You have to study for 4 years to become one...😂😂That is the reason why you need Indians in America 😅😅
@@metalgearrocketarm yup.
@@metalgearrocketarm That's absolutely right. I'm one of those Americans. I started feeling the harm of H1B 22 years ago during the technology crash. I wonder why it took so many years for this to finally become common knowledge.
Who's is american a slave white master. Train red indians .not whites
Creating jobs has to be the biggest lie ever
They created the 7/11 for their uncle who they brought over to work at...
current CEOs of Microsoft, Google and Adobe are all ex-h1bs...so yes they do create jobs
And they said it like 10 times. Unreal
it does create jobs - just not for Americans.
Yeah right, as tho cheap labor for greedy corporations is the American thing to do!🐍😂
Nonsense.
Thanks you for calling out this panel!
those h1b dude owns this UA-cam😂😂
just remember it
It helps to keep the stock market high.
Cheap labour?
Indian Americans hav the highest per capita income
As a Chinese , I need to point something out. It’s widely acknowledged that China is catching up to the U.S. in terms of technological advancement, and our manufacturing capabilities have already surpassed those of the U.S. significantly.
Do we rely on Indian engineers in China? No, we don’t. We’ve achieved this progress through the efforts of our own citizens-our engineers and workforce-without the help of Indian or Western talent. The U.S. should recognize that the key to sustaining its competitiveness lies in strengthening STEM education, eliminating distractions like DEI from the education system, and prioritizing investment in its own citizens.
Jealous Chinese
I'm half white and half korean. if Indians are so smart, why is it their country is a shole? Why can't they go home and build their country to make it look like America?
@@babaphoto They're competitors, not jealous.
dictatorship vs democracy
most of tech is copied by chinese
H-1B snatch us jobs
It creates jobs
It's creating jobs in many different ways for Americans actually. Attorneys, Visa officers, USCIS employees, Airline employees, realtors , tax professionals and many more. People are earning money by renting their properties too. There is an enormous amount of economic activity going on
This program cannibalizes an entire industry. It increases the supply of engineers and by doing so makes it impossible for new US grads to get work and puts more than 1 Million tech workers in unemployment lines at any given time.
Doubling H1B visas will half the tech workers pay if not make them unemployed immediately
No it doesn't. It does the exact opposite.
I seen the opposite, it takes away jobs. I'm in the tech sector and seen our departments with workers here being laid off, new positions open but with a very low salary company complain its hard to fill positions so H1b visas are needed, foreign workers fill the job but for a much lower pay.
The World Best and Brightest are born right here in American, INVEST IN THEM..
You cannot repeat same mistake and expect different results
Very expensive to maintain. I know lots of friends who trained their replacement from India H1B. 1 American talent = 5 Indian talent. They developed lots of applications and trained the indians how to maintain them in exchange for severance pay. I heard its about 1 year. That was in 2010. I don't k now about now.
keyword brightest. not many bright people come from currie land
Technically all babies are relatively similar intelligence. And America doesn't invest in it's people. So they aren't as capable.
They're not going to because it's cheaper to offshore or import cheaper workers. Calling us dumb and lazy is just the line they came up with to avoid admitting they're illegally discriminating against hiring American workers.
We do not need more H1B tech workers in the US. We have a lot of smart tech American workers who are out of job now. These companies need to hire Americans first. It is not fair for Americans who spend so much money to attend college here and afterwards they couldn’t land a job. These two who support H1B visa are probably pay by those greedy corporations.
चतुर? भारतीय प्रतिभा के बिना संयुक्त राज्य अमेरिका कैसे नेतृत्व कर सकता है?
@@wdggkerbzWith German, Japanese, Chinese engineers . you are not special.
For all chest thumping you are still a 3rd world nation who can only put up a fight with Pakistan.
You are nowhere close to compete against china /japan let alone USA
Under H-1B, applicants can file for the H4 status for children and spouses. This is how chain migration starts. Even if there are 85k H-1B, there’s more people being admitted beyond H-1B. Technologies developed under those on H-1B is also negligible. If we want to bring in top-talent, have people start applying under the O1 visa which is a non-immigrant visa but allows people to change employers.
yes this think need to be change but USA cant completely stop h1b visa program because its Indian multi billion dollar tech giant like TCS, Wipro give the most number of h1b visa which hire european origin usa employee as well (Indian company's had invested over $40 Billion Dollar in USA in in last 10 years )out of which 20% in IT and Software technology sector meaning close to $8 Billion Dollar.
What visa did your dad come to US on?
- People can switch jobs on H1
- O1 is for extraordinary. High skilled(H1) has a different connotation than extraordinary. Both have different needs and capacity requirements, don’t conflate these.
- H4 is not chain migration. If h1 loses job and leaves country, the associated h4 will have to do the same. None of the H visas cause migration on its own. They have to apply for GC and wait like everyone else. Without the path to GC not many would’ve come to the US in the first place and you wouldn’t be sitting in an enriched tech space and be able to type this comment
@@danielandrews5357 national interest waiver 😂
2024 they issued over 1 million H1b visas without modification to the 80k cap
I agree that a mix of different cultures and philosophies create a stronger and more diverse country and economy. However, when banks, communications providers, and other corporations hire outside staffing located in another country, how is that practice making our country better? That customer service department located in India or that collections department located in the Philippines-how is that contributing to the USA? They don't live here nor shop here, they are just benefitting from an American job. Why can't they get special Visas in order to live here? I totally agree with the visa employee system, but not the system where a large corporation hires a foreign staffing group because they can pay them so much less than someone who lives here.
H1B has nothing to do with customer service in other countries. Your sound beyond ignorant.
@thisisanewusername4662 *You
Why are you making all no people management skills as people managers in all organizations which screws up life of everyone working in America. If you bring for technical skills just purely use them for technical roles only, it's crime against humanity make these guys as people managers.
Who are you to determine they don't have people management skills? Are you godsend
People change jobs and acquire skills duh
I oppose H1B visas because I believe that America should preserve its culture
Like what??
American culture 😂, you all come from Europe
@@neerajs.kholiya3934 I immigrated in the 80s. I was 9 years old. The advents of Indians destroyed traditional American culture that has been around for 270 years. California does not look America anymore. It looks like India.
So your culture cannot be harmed by someone from Europe but is harmed if someone is from India?
@@fidelca3679 so you also immigrant ? Only 1.47% of indian origin in U.S
Do research before any comment
Mostly corporate blathering.
My memory services me correctly from the 1990s. Skilled professionals were replaced by immigrants being paid half the salary. Terrible plan😮
H1bs are NONimmigrants. They are not immigrants.
Nonsense.
As an Indian I partly agree. But that also propelled growth in IT
@@thisisanewusername4662no, it's history
@kitten7258-s3b I had friends that had to train their Indian replacement. How does that make sense unless are cheaper. Companies like Infosys and Tata got rich by outsourcing.
Offer work visa only. Don't offer citizenship. None of middle East countries give citizenship. Still they are getting the best talents. So at the time of joining the job itself their mindset will be to go and settle in their own countries. You will not have to deport them nor u will not have any legal struggle
H1b visa is not citizenship. Of course if you lived lawfully in the US for a certain period of time, you van apply for green card or citizenship. That's how h1bs get greencard and eventually citizenship
And they are tax free, no income tax. Will US do that
Please go back to Europe ASAP.
6% of tax IRS gets through H1B migrants
Citizen or not, you are required to pay taxes. W2 are done each paycheck 1099 or other forms depends, but you have to pay even with ITIN@edenwoodssprings6687
As a black man that voted 3rd party this is yet another reason why the Democrat party is headed down the tubes. Both parties just doing the biddinbgof corporations. One day us working people on the right and left might actually come together tonreally do something spectacular.
Lol. By voting third party, you voted for Trump. None of these people are Democrats btw.
I don't see Indians hiring black man in the bayarea. Indian women love white men though. They want to have mixed beautiful kids.
The people most harmed by these visas and this type of immigration are minorities.
Not only is there an uphill climb to obtain education and compete against white peers, but HB-1 further displace minorities when migrants are offered wages they jump for joy at. Ex. Indians physicians earn around $10,000 to $25,000 in their country, but in the U.S. as a new doctor, they can earn $150K and up. Someone in the U.S. with high student loans, (which holds for most birthright minorities) is severely disadvantaged when they have to compete against migrants willing to take a “low” wage while on a visa.
Keep it temporary
Specially Muslims.
Racist
Allah Snackbar is showing his ugly head again, it's sad because it was so obvious and still is.
Exactly. And reduce it to proportion. India holding 70% of the designations is
dangerously skewed towards another southern border invasion crises.
We subsidize the immigrant on the HB-1 and then all the derivatives they bring along. How many foreign countries does the average U.S. taxpayer have to carry?!
Insanity!! The entire cost burden should be assessed to the firm requesting importation.
@@stevenhenry5267Nationalist. Big difference, genius. Immigrants on these programs harm the education admissions and employment numbers for American minorities.
H1b visa fix. If a company uses it, they have to pay that exceptional, you can't find an american equivalent employee, 20% - 30% over average pay for the position you are filling. Since the are so valuable, then prove it.
The most un-American thing is we could let our border open and spend American money on everybody but Americans.
ROFLMAO
Wow. Just pure retar****** on full display.
We welcome visitors, however anyone looking for decent individuals, such as South Koreans or Japanese, should come here
Racist.
Racist post
@@stevenhenry5267 Grow up. Everyone is racist. Some are quiet, some are loud, and some are stealthy.
We came together as Americans and told democrats to kick rocks. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
A lot of democrats are on the MAGA side of this issue, including me. You rubes elected the oligarch Elon Musk, and now he’s undermining American workers. “America First” is a scam
Stupid is as stupid does. Don't come crying.
Enjoy the tariffs
As a professional that is now qualified to a job most H1 - B people have, because they don’t have the needed certs to be placed on a project, I find it very interesting how I don’t have many calling for a job I’m not qualified to have. Knowing that, this conversation is highly invalid and is about cheap labor and culture preference. NO ONE wants to explain why my field is still outsourced to India when the company is in the US and why I can’t just apply and work remote for that job or right in India. Social media clout at this point..
Adios! 👋
Why don't American companies hire Americans?
Greedy corporations are pretending there is a 'worker shortage' so they can cut wages and services.
If you really believe it is valuable without the indentured servitude aspect, reform it to no longer be indentured servitude. Make it possible to switch jobs. I’ll be happy to support it then. I value immigration that’s fair.
If you don’t want to reform it to create an even playing field, then we know why you really like it. Wharton school, eh? Figures.
After seeing America people racism, I decide to move back to my country. Let me start building my country first!
Good for you! ❤ the argument about HB-1 is not about racism; it’s about nationalism. Americans are tired of carrying the world on our backs. That’s why no one voted for Harris.
@@PowderedMunchkins no affiance, before I came to USA. it’s my dream start my entrepreneurial-ship journey. Faced lot of challenges in terms of visa regulations. Fun fact holding H1b is not easy. You will put your family away for decades. Just To chase dreams. Image you missing your family time for decades. And top of that we are facing racism. Image of world would run on non dollar currency. I’m sure no one would come to USA. For chasing dreams. Trust me most people won’t come to USA just to earn money. Most imaging that earring in dollar can give them opportunity to expand their company to different countries. Or to enhance standard of living. Trust me after de dollarization people will stop coming to USA. Period! Then Americas can stay happily!
Germany has just begun to make it easier for highly educated foreign workers to apply for immigrant visa to Germany.
I would rather have hard-working, loving immigrants as my neighbors than hateful maga.
Perhaps, have them live in your home if you love them so much.
Have them live in your home if you love them so much.
If you love them so much you can move to india and don’t forget to take them with you to their home land
@@fidelca3679let's move them in your home 😅
They only work hard because they need to keep their jobs to not get deported. This isn't about racism. I'm a Latino immigrant (naturalized), but I'm unemployed and the H1B system is not helping. Tech companies laid off hundreds of thousands of people, and yet, there's not enough engineers? Come on fam, you know that's bs. These guests don't know what they're talking about. The studies he cited had nothing to do with the reality that there is actually a SURPLUS of tech workers. We don't need to bring more people in. Again, it's not about hate. It's about Americans having jobs. Or, do you want the homelessness rate to continue to go up? Serious question.
Agreed. Immigrants are vital to America. We should allow more migrants here not less. Diversity makes us stronger and keep us the greatest country in the world. We have the best and smartest immigrants in the world.
Expanding immigration through H1B visas without considering the effects on local workers, wages, and gentrification is short-sighted. The advantages for tech billionaires are evident, but it likely comes at a cost for local workers .
True. But there's a bad way of doing everything, and H-1B visas are a bad way of hosting immigration. If the US ends H-1B visas, the US can still invite as many technology immigrants as the country needs, by issuing permanent resident visas to the workers instead. "H-1B" means "indentured servitude". An unintelligble abbreviation is used because the political people don't want the public to know what they are doing. H-1B immigrants are not given an invitation to stay in the US on a permanent basis. They are admitted for just long enough to depress wages. Then, if they cannot get a better visa, they are required to leave.
How many millions of foreign citizens do you want to force the American people to take in. How many millions? How many? Best and smartest? we all know you are a fraud with that statement.
Diversity sucks. Life was allot better in the 60's and 70's. We do not need any more immigrants. The country is not safe anymore.
H1B said they're smarter than Americans. If they're so smart, why can't they fix their sithole country? Bogus talent
It's a scam.
just dont get it why do they think there are more talents in outside of US ?
Its pathetic
The “best and brightest” visa is the O visa. The H1b visa is not the best and brightest visa. That is common misinformation.
Just increase minimum salary requirements for H1B to 150k/200k.. then employers will stop using this as means for cheap labour
All the companies recruit large amounts of H1-B need to provide thorough recruit stats of all applicants with citizenship/permanent status, qualifications, education backgrounds, experiences level, and rejects vs acceptance.
Once you have this stats, the officials can audit any of the H1-B applicants, so to justify the system overall.
They already have to pay for training US workers as part of the program.
Indians only hire their own kind, but they leave out 1 white and 1 black to prevent EEO complaint.
Just look at canada. Our future.
Unamerican BS.
Based on Average salaries, $14,240,305,000 BILLION in wages paid to foreign workers when Americans are being laid off.
85,000 H-1B Visas as of January 2025,
H-1B visa salaries in the United States are as follows:
Top earners: $206,500 per year, or $17,208 per month
75th percentile: $192,000 per year, or $16,000 per month
Average: $167,533 per year, or $13,961 per month
25th percentile: $141,000 per year, or $11,750 per month
So you’re saying they are not “cheap labor” as MAGA claims
@@ThomasRosehands Cheaper after the positions are offshored to India.
@@ThomasRosehands Indians only hire their own kind. Go to Bayarea. They hire 1 chinese, 1 white, 1 black, and the rests are Indians. Why? EEO complaint prevention.
@@ThomasRosehands oh, it’s cheap. Americans at skilled salary ranges demand considerably more than these ranges - unless the competition is Chinese; in that case wages outpace even the highest earning white Americans. This isn’t an issue of labor costs. It’s about the loss of labor and skilled workforce opportunities for tax-paying, birthright citizens.
If these people are so interested in this country, why do they only pursue high paying jobs once they do become citizens? Why not take menial, average American jobs where this an ACTUAL shortage. I.e. farm labor, or military? H1-B is archaic and needs to go along with the barnacles it’s welcomed. Musk included.
Let’s also not forget that approximately 40% of domestic physicians are East Asian or Chinese. They take the slots in medical schools, and when on HB-1, it’s taxpayers, not sponsors, who are required to subsidize their arrival. In India, medical school costs can range from $1000 to $5000 a year whereas total debt for an American often ranges between $100K to $400K. Who has the implicit advantage? It’s heinous.
Pretty sure that scrapping slavery "limited economic growth," so maybe "economic growth" shouldn't be a meaningful factor driving the economy and maybe we need to move from this economic system into something sustainable that isn't society-wrecking.
but if it’s a choice between dept of education to create American engineers and h1b1 visas then bye bye visas…..
And it’s just about the slave labor over paying Americans a livable wage, imagine that.
Vivek: Make America India again
Columbus: I told you I found India
So not only is your competition other Americans in the field of study but also foreigners, good luck not being a manager at Burger King.
Founder of Zoom? The guy who censored people for talking about Taiwan? Win win? Sounds like Chinese Win Win Cooperation shtick.
Immigration policy needs to be well thought out. Ellis Island / Plymouth Rock approach needs to go
There are false things said about H1B Visa,many people coming on H1B Visa are already working for USA software clients in india and they come to America to do further work.Most critical software for America like airport systems, bank systems are run and managed from Indian IT companies. If H1B Visa is banned then software companies will shift to india imagine critical software like operating systems and compilers developed in India.
No. You’re wrong. Reducing the H-1B leech would only boost the domestic economy. Since many American firms are engaged in the dirty business of tax inversion, Trump, within his tax plan will introduce measures which would disincentivize offshoring and labor outsourcing.
If H-1B visas are reduced, the free market would course-correct. Domestic tech corporations especially (like Baby Musk’s) would be forced to offer competitive wages to American workers as the labor supply for specialized jobs would tighten. Short run, while this would likely lead to higher wages in certain sectors, consumer prices would also rise as companies pass on the increased labor costs. However, the revenue from these higher prices would stay within the U.S. and benefit the domestic economy instead of foreign markets.
In the long run, this could strengthen the middle class, reduce reliance on foreign labor, and promote job growth within the U.S. despite possible inflationary pressures.
The net effect would be a more self-sustaining economy with a stronger domestic labor force and better propelled classes of American collegiate graduates.
"America is for Americans," but what does it mean to become American? Is it by being born in America to immigrants, since almost everyone in America has immigrant parents? Fascinating. It seems more like a cult than a country: "I made it, you stay out!" I say this because Indians stand out; everyone knows they are immigrants. Yet, a European on the same visa is never assumed to be an immigrant. Current Americans probably think they look the same and probably came with their parents or forefathers. Yes, Indians can stay in their own country, but so could have all the people who came to America in the past and gave birth to the current Americans who are now hating H1B holders.
Nobody is hating them. We are hating the implied convo saying american workers are lazy or somehow inferior to the point that they want to expand the H1b program. The reality is they are only looking for cheaper labor that cant talk back because if they get fired they have to leave the country.
Sriram Krishnan was into crypto over the last few years (just see his latest videos). Krishnan being AI czar, is really about pushing crypto deregulation. So this is a real reason to be suspicious of Krishnan's appointment.
X intends to start handling crypto in payment, but it requires approval for each state.
And there are significant barriers to this between U.S. states, so I am sure the reason for pushing this appointment is create Federal regulation to prevent states from controlling this very volatile investment currency. States have always had rights in regards to investments, in order to protect investors and consumers, so this appointment is all about pushing crypto, and maybe making several hundred billion off of it.
I hear that 1 immigrant can do the work of 9 trumpers.
What else do the voices say nut job?
Yes indeed. they focus on getting the job done.
I believe you could be right..
You mean the corporations can't make money off of Americans anymore? So they need to import slaves instead? Oh and when these foreign " slaves" retire and some go back to their own countries, they take their knowledge with them making the US import more " slaves". Saw this with engineering. Guess what? You just made China and India rich instead, since that money ALMOST ALWAYS get sent home. It doesn't do anything for American economies.
H1B said they're smarter than Americans. If they're so smart, why can't they fix their sithole country? Bogus talent
Now non-Indian CS workers including fresh graduates are hard to find a job due to Indian only hiring Indian. These guys are still talking about increasing H1 visa for India. What a pity for American.
Say it again. These guys on tv are so clueless it is amazing to me
Very true. I live in the Bayarea.
H-1B visas are nothing but work visas.
There are hundreds of different worker visa programs available in the United States right now.
Let the H1B visas take the Computer Science jobs from Your son who studied the same thing, but the manager from the company is from India and didn't think your kid had the right skills, but Suckdeep from Bangalore just happened to have the "right skills" wink wink... And when your son gets laid off during a mass layoff and the immigrants on H1B are kept...no big deal...
@metalgearrocketarm
Who cares about that. All of you Tech nerds are left-wing lunatics anyway. Everybody has known for a very long time that East Indian Hindus are going to replace you.
We need to start a 'Go Fund Me Page' to buy Trump Tower and paint it Rainbow.🌈
Great idea.
Sure if you want to waste your money
how about use those money to pay for the millions in medical debt or suffering from housing crisis instead of the making Alphabet mafia look even more a$$ than they already have become.
Great idea. Ask Dylan and Bud Light to sponsor you.
It’s time to stop saying “this isn’t who we are”, since it obviously is.
Thats like having 3 children that you are having a hard time feeding and telling thise children you are adopting more children 😂.
we do have many candidates seeking engineering work in United States. Let’s hire first American worker.
The suits is a crony
They keep saying it creates jobs for Americans 🤣
Yeah right
Just a thought: would you consider replacing the bilious green background by a more agreeable color?
If Melania comes over here as a fashion-ad model, she most likely used the H1B.
So you're against DEI but support H1B visas
They are jokes
How many college/university enrollment spots do democrats running these institutions sell to foreign applicants over US citizens who pay for these institutions?
@@DaveSchultzXXL not true David.
they sell as many as they can. Cash cow to milk international students who pay international fees aka full freight $$$$
Overseas education is a massive business, the foreign students help subsidize US students.
You couldn't be more clueless.
Lol
We have 18 million illegals while 500k people on H1b legal visa. Where do we all laugh from?
They intentionally missed the point. It isn't not wanting people coming to the US. It is about importing cheap indentured labor. give them a green card and normal pay
I absolutely agree with a gree card and a pathway to citizenship. there will be no wage suppression.
Exactly H1B people should get the green card ASAP It helps America,s economy!
Look at our rents, demand is high, cousing homelessness.
Excellent and ingenious commentary from both guests! Thank you.
Hidden History Museum Historic
Thank you for this presentation. It. has helped me understand more fully what this H-1B program is about and the need to make it more flexible rather than come against it.
Yes.
Read instead of listen. You’re a sheep if you learn economic theory from another person. Economics is based largely on personal ideology. This guy is another Keynesian. Dime a dozen and the reason Harris and Bidenomics are gone.
The comments section reveal that literally nobody listened to what these two people said.....
People are tired of the experts telling us what to think. Pigs in lipstick…
@PowderedMunchkins I mean.. if you're sick and the doctors tell you you're sick you'd do well to listen to them. But whatever floats your boat....
@arjuncalidas2736 but we should listen to you? 😂
When you realize Trump and Biden age are only 4 year apart, yet Trump talks and acts like he is 50.... 😂 and y’all say Joe Biden’s mental health is top notch.
Cofeffe
trump talks like someone ready for memory care at any moment. Your stoopdity knows no bounds.
Lol. Trump's declining mental state is obvious.
msnbc viewership
Smarter than Fox News
Also if someone think company should hire american only, these will cause company to reallocate to the country of talent. Therefore one should look at the possibilities of fixing the loophole rather than shutting down the program.
Also this H1-B issue reflects the hatred (racism) towards Indian in American society. If the discussion was only pivoted to H1-B, it would have been fine.
Also who is the real American?
Both H1-B visa and green card process needs to be amended. People from India has to be on H1-B visa for long time since the green card waiting time for Indian is quite high (for India, waiting time could be 20 years whereas other country has to wait for 2-3 years for the same skill). Therefore people from India on H1-B visa has to be on mercy of company to stay in this country. These cause exploitation of H1-B folks from India.
Also H1-B tied to Green Card to move to others job or even move up the ladder, since the green card us tied to the job description at the time of filing green card. If the waiting time is 20 years for Indian, think of the pain people go through, not just that so much risk in terms of keeping the job and maintaining the status.. it is excruciating.
This is really a good discussion. One important point is America is a growing pie not a shrinking one. Let's give a controlled freedom to these immigrants and then see what they can do. They are ready to align their neurons for MAGA but due to unnecessary fear mongering by some the legal immigrants are stopped of their potential.
As far as salary is concerned, the H1-B requires LCA certification from DOL which ensures the salary is not less for the position/skill/location, therefore if they are underpaid I assume DOL needs to revise the salary requirement.
It’s more about the race thing. Bringing in people from Europe should not be an issue .
Nicely explained why H1B is good for America and Americans
It's a lot of propaganda
Both H1-B visa and green card process needs to be amended. People from India has to be on H1-B visa for long time since the green card waiting time for Indian is quite high (for India, waiting time could be 20 years whereas other country has to wait for 2-3 years for the same skill). Therefore people from India on H1-B visa has to be on mercy of company to stay in this country. These cause exploitation of H1-B folks from India.
Also H1-B tied to Green Card to move to others job or even move up the ladder, since the green card us tied to the job description at the time of filing green card. If the waiting time is 20 years for Indian, think of the pain people go through, not just that so much risk in terms of keeping the job and maintaining the status.. it is excruciating.