I had a conversation with someone who told like; "oh well, if you take in consideration the absolute, then nothing has value at all". In this sentence the person just wanted to point out that the absolute in practical ways isn't necessarily useful, but that happens if we look too close of our own perspectives. You made the glasses' analogy, and it's quite right, you change lenses, you change color, grade etc., but and if you were away not only from the perspective, but away from the glasses, or from vision itself? Like, if you compare a born blind person, their perception of the world might be somehow entirely different. That's why talking about absolute while keeping on our own mind is to dive into another level of relativity. Doesn't mean isn't good or bad, it might be useful as a contrast, so people may know all the relativities out there. That's the social lesson internet is bringing to us, even though some people want to force their reality upon others. Anyways, sharing experiences and talking about it might be sharing a relative point of view to others, so we all benefit from it. But diving into reality itself, or understanding the absolute and bringing this understanding to a relative and practical living is another matter. The way it would express, would be pretty much as stated by this mentioned person; everything would lose its value. (or we would understand the value is within us). Now the question is what type of reality we want to live in, or if we want to face Reality itself, or just stay comfortable within our own bubble. Most people, even in a spiritual path would rather stay where it's comfortable, because it's just natural. As soon we get our pain at least relieved, we tend to just enjoy it, not going as further as you did, or questioning about your natural state of being. Maybe, what you've mentioned about yourself, when talking about your awakening, is that you got to a state you had while a child, so easy and natural that all those fights, or daily labor, wouldn't worth, since wouldn't bring you this state of peace. No wonder our reality collapses after it, since you know there's nothing out there that will bring you this level of peace and joy.
You are really helping my process right now!! 🙏⭐😄Experiences and beliefs from childhood have certainly followed me through space time!! Only the past few days it really clicked that evidence informs my world view but world view keeps manifesting evidence creating an endless cycle of unpleasantness until the 'spell' is broken. I CHOOSE to see the world as a benevolent place!
You are very clever. I wish i had someone like you in my life to discuss these topics. … we as awake Dreamers in this big dream seem very rare. Much love from Germany to you and all listeners! 💜
I have came to realize that my ‘personal’ trap in the mind is that i’ve identified with ‘the doubter’ a lot i feel. Whenever there is a thought that doubts anything i jumped ‘in it’ somehow a lot. And i think combined with certain fears or desires mixed in here and there this took me sometimes in to deep rabbit holes where i thought every doubt had a meaning and lead into negative spirals. I struggled quite a lot with it and im getting more and more aware of it now since my realization of the ego illusion. Does this sound familiar to you because i very often feel it’s quite a unique case for as far as i know.
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I had a conversation with someone who told like; "oh well, if you take in consideration the absolute, then nothing has value at all".
In this sentence the person just wanted to point out that the absolute in practical ways isn't necessarily useful,
but that happens if we look too close of our own perspectives.
You made the glasses' analogy, and it's quite right, you change lenses, you change color, grade etc.,
but and if you were away not only from the perspective, but away from the glasses, or from vision itself?
Like, if you compare a born blind person, their perception of the world might be somehow entirely different.
That's why talking about absolute while keeping on our own mind is to dive into another level of relativity.
Doesn't mean isn't good or bad, it might be useful as a contrast, so people may know all the relativities out there.
That's the social lesson internet is bringing to us, even though some people want to force their reality upon others.
Anyways, sharing experiences and talking about it might be sharing a relative point of view to others, so we all benefit from it.
But diving into reality itself, or understanding the absolute and bringing this understanding to a relative and practical living is another matter.
The way it would express, would be pretty much as stated by this mentioned person; everything would lose its value. (or we would understand the value is within us).
Now the question is what type of reality we want to live in, or if we want to face Reality itself, or just stay comfortable within our own bubble.
Most people, even in a spiritual path would rather stay where it's comfortable, because it's just natural.
As soon we get our pain at least relieved, we tend to just enjoy it, not going as further as you did, or questioning about your natural state of being.
Maybe, what you've mentioned about yourself, when talking about your awakening, is that you got to a state you had while a child,
so easy and natural that all those fights, or daily labor, wouldn't worth, since wouldn't bring you this state of peace.
No wonder our reality collapses after it, since you know there's nothing out there that will bring you this level of peace and joy.
Smart🙂
You are really helping my process right now!! 🙏⭐😄Experiences and beliefs from childhood have certainly followed me through space time!! Only the past few days it really clicked that evidence informs my world view but world view keeps manifesting evidence creating an endless cycle of unpleasantness until the 'spell' is broken. I CHOOSE to see the world as a benevolent place!
I love that! Beautiful
You are very clever. I wish i had someone like you in my life to discuss these topics. … we as awake Dreamers in this big dream seem very rare. Much love from Germany to you and all listeners! 💜
Much love 💚
pretty sure there are more than 5 senses at least for the players
I have came to realize that my ‘personal’ trap in the mind is that i’ve identified with ‘the doubter’ a lot i feel. Whenever there is a thought that doubts anything i jumped ‘in it’ somehow a lot. And i think combined with certain fears or desires mixed in here and there this took me sometimes in to deep rabbit holes where i thought every doubt had a meaning and lead into negative spirals. I struggled quite a lot with it and im getting more and more aware of it now since my realization of the ego illusion. Does this sound familiar to you because i very often feel it’s quite a unique case for as far as i know.
I relate to that completely. How are you doing now?