Calculators will get you in the ballpark of 1% front to rear variance but i can tell you from experience that different manufacturer sizes even though they state same dimensions vary a lot.
Great video guys! To clarify for those that are still a little confused, the aspect ratio on the tire is represented as a percentage. For example 245/35-19, 35 is 35% of 245mm.
@Variant Wheels Quick question guys: is the 1% difference a range in the + AND - Spectrum? In other words, is a -1.9% difference in the negative spectrum too much of a difference in diameter? The video isn't clear on that part? Thanks in advance for any clarification.
@@AlmightyEye Doesn't matter if its + or - spectrum. But 1.9% difference is too much in my experience and so is 1%. Try to match within 0.5% is my recommendation...
I have a 328i xdrive 2010 and got the M3 220 style on it with 245/35 R19 93Yfront, 255/35 R19 96Y rear. I’m having issues with transfer case. All the lights pop right on when I start driving. What could it be??
Sounds like you need to have it scanned. Sounds like you probably got speed sensor faults, or maybe steering angle sensor errors. A full system scan is the first step.
I followed your guidance. I just installed new staggered wheels on 2021 G 20 M340i xDrive, F 8.5x20 et 22 with 245/35/20, R 10x20 et 40 with 285/30/20. Perfectly fit. I further added Bilstein Evo SE to lower the car. Perfect, I say.
Hi ! Im considering to get the same size tires as you mentioned, want to use ACS lowering springs too, wondering will it be enough room after that. Did you lower yours?
Double check the double checking :) I have 440xi with factory staggered wheels :) 8JX19 ET:36 rims with 225/40R19 tires on Front and 8,5JX19 ET:47 with 255/35R19 on the Rear.
440i xDrive w/Stagger Setup S21W - 704M BMW Bolt 5x120 / Center 72.56 FT: 8.0J x 19 ET36 RR: 8.5J x 19 ET47 I'm looking to buy FT: 9.0 x 19 ET 30 Rr: 9.5 x 19 ET 35
The problem, if one analyses the physics inside the transfer box, is that the X-drive system is deficient. Put another way, it needs to be even more complex than it already is, to allow for different wheels/tyres/rolling diameters.
While "height divided by width" is true, it's much easier to thing about the aspect ratio as percentage of the width. Technically, it's the same thing but I'm betting most of us find it easier to thing about it in percentages.
Just bought a 23 m240i x drive and love it! I’m hoping to get another tire set. This stuff just confuses me. Great job explaining. Any chance you’ve done a m240?
I'm running 265/30R19 in the rear on my F30 335i RWD with 437M 19s, I would have thought for sure that anything wider would rub. Although I'm also lower than that 340i in the video.
@kiesmotorsports great video! What are you guys going to do with the wheels that are not bent? I have a 2013 335i with a staggered set of the same wheels. Unfortunately the finish is coming off one of my front wheels, which I believe are the same size.
Great video Kris, Im running 225/45 R18 front and 255/40 R18 rear on my 2015 328i xdrive msport with no issues (except a little understeer) I didn't know running staggered could damage the transfer case, the calculator says 0% difference for my set-up, Thank you for the info and link. PS also I appreciate the communication that my rear strut bar is on the way....
I did the math and the set I would like was that the front tires will be 0.7% taller than the rear ones. Can I go ahead with the project or do the ones in the back have to be taller or does it not matter?
Hey what’s up fellas just wanted to say keep up the good work I love your channel since I’ve been watching it for the past week I just had a question I wanted to put some staggered wheels on my 2015 three series 328I gt xdrive and I wanted to know the size tires I needed for these rims 20" STAGGERED RENNEN WHEELS CSL 7 SILVER WITH CHROME LIP RIMS
Thank you for this video!! I wanted the same set up for my F30 340xdrive... but with ESR.. how do I figure out the fitments or would it be roughly the same
Bryan, This is the best video. I am looking for tires and rims for my 328. Would it look ridiculous to put that setup you had on this video on it? Oh, and I forgot to ask, did you put tire pressure sensors in the wheels or do you disable that?
💯Great Job bro ...Appreciate that calculator it's very helpful. You answered lots of people's questions about the staggered wheels. 🙏 So my biggest question is that my m850i xDrive convertible came with front 245/35/20 and back 275/30/20 Perelli Runflat, so I Hit a pothole high speed which bent the front wheels and tires Bursted, in emergency the available tires installed by the shop are 245/45/20 vs 245/35/20 and my All wheel drive system is acting weird and throwing system malfunction and holding one side etc and etc. So what bigger tire size or spacers can I get to fill the wheel both front and back. Please advise me. Thank you 🙏
I'm hoping to reuse my staggered set of wheels from my damaged 330d over to a 335d xdrive. 255/40R 18 & 225/45R 18. Tyre size calculator says 0% variance. The tyres are only 3 months old but I will need to measure them as I expect the rears have seen a bit more wear than the fronts!! 😄 Doesn't the actual rim size need to be considered too? The numbers coming from the calculator alone won't account for any kind of stretch.
Hello there I have a question I have a photo BMW 750 I extra Turbo what rimsona right now or 20" rims what size would also make it stagger with that size
I hit a pit hole and replaced one tires. Other tires are getting quite low but they all are same brand can I still drive them like that until winter or should I change all tires to match thread
Am I supposed to focus on the first percentage at the top that it gives me? I’m a bit confused to all the percentages it gave me but if I’m not mistaken only the first percentage they give you matters ?
Hello I have a question.I have a 2014 bmw 640i gran coupe xdrive.bought some rims that are 20x9 front and 20x10.5 in the rear.what size tires should I go with that would be in that 1%?
so this is a result of pre-LCIs having a bad part in the transfer case and staggered wheels being blamed a lot for causing the issues with them. My SA took one look at my aftermarket wheels and warned me of all the transfer cases he had replaced and that they wouldn't cover the warranty with aftermarket staggered wheels. Even people with square setups were having the issue and BMW changed out the part in the LCI. Bimmerpost F30 forums has a spreadsheet on the transfer case failures and they all seem to be 2014 and before with a couple 2015s.
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Calculators will get you in the ballpark of 1% front to rear variance but i can tell you from experience that different manufacturer sizes even though they state same dimensions vary a lot.
Chris’ 340 looks clean with those wheels 👍🏻
Getting new tires mounted on my Bimmers rims is one of the scariest things for me. 1 out of 3 times those guys scratch up my rims.
I still don’t understand how this channel only has 157k subscribers with the amount of quality content you guys bring
the track handling package give you staggered 19s with xdrive so, I know cause I have it on my lol.
Mine too
What size tires and wheels were they on that package?
I want the size please 😢😢
Great video guys! To clarify for those that are still a little confused, the aspect ratio on the tire is represented as a percentage. For example 245/35-19, 35 is 35% of 245mm.
Offset?
Yes, that's 35% of the width of the tire(245mm).
@Variant Wheels Quick question guys: is the 1% difference a range in the + AND - Spectrum? In other words, is a -1.9% difference in the negative spectrum too much of a difference in diameter? The video isn't clear on that part? Thanks in advance for any clarification.
@@AlmightyEye Doesn't matter if its + or - spectrum. But 1.9% difference is too much in my experience and so is 1%. Try to match within 0.5% is my recommendation...
18 and 19" M sport F30 in UK get staggered setup from factory. 225/45/18 and 255/40/18 or 225/40/19 and 255/35/19. My 330d xdrive has the 19" sizes.
Thank you kies I plan on running a 19x9.5/8.5 on my m240i xdrive and this video is a big relief for me🤙🏾
My 335d xdrive came stock with staggered wheels and I'm fairly sure BMW know what they're doing.
Wow the offset is on point !
we try :)
what is the affset i didnt here them mention it
Been running this setup on stock suspension on my 13’ 328xi for a few months now and have had 0 issues, +35 offset for the front and +30 for the rears
I have a 328i xdrive 2010 and got the M3 220 style on it with 245/35 R19 93Yfront, 255/35 R19 96Y rear. I’m having issues with transfer case. All the lights pop right on when I start driving. What could it be??
Sounds like you need to have it scanned. Sounds like you probably got speed sensor faults, or maybe steering angle sensor errors.
A full system scan is the first step.
I followed your guidance. I just installed new staggered wheels on 2021 G 20 M340i xDrive, F 8.5x20 et 22 with 245/35/20, R 10x20 et 40 with 285/30/20. Perfectly fit. I further added Bilstein Evo SE to lower the car. Perfect, I say.
Question, had exact same setup on my 2020 RWD 340i. Problem was the fronts rubbed really bad, do you use spacers?
what is your offset?
@@partiallydemo6803 The comment says et22 front and et40 rear...
He definitely needs to do new brake set up. Drilled larger rotors,/BBK set will clean out that look💪🏾
Great Brian. I follow your clips from Thailand. Keep it up. So informative.
I have a 2018 -430i x drive gran coupe and this video is really helpful. Thank you
My BMW 340i xDrive came stock with staggered wheels. 255/35/19 rear and 225/40/19 front. It has the track package.
Same here my 2017 Came with that same exact setup. I did the math and it falls within the same -0.4% as he mentions in this video.
I love how much the channel has grown keep up the great work long time subscriber 💯💯
New Kies branding was exactly what you needed. Looks sweet.
Those BRAKES!!! I cant see anything else lol sooo dirty and rusty
Very helpful video B. Just purchased M3 all wheel drive. Now I’m ready to order tires and rims.
My 335D XDrive M Sport has staggered wheels as standard from the factory with 19" x 8J fronts and 19" x 8.5J's at the rear so it must be safe to do.
Thank God for potholes! 😂 Looks fantastic!
what a great channel. so much good info in a super entertaining way. keep it up guys,
No spacers and the fitment is perfect IMO.
Great video! Helpful and thank you
I’ve been running staggered for 6 months. No problem at all.
Same here - I’ve got on the 9.5 rear and 8.5 on the front of my 430 x-drive and have no issues at all.
@@R6_Rodders width doesn't matter, only diameter
I been running for 5 years. What is suppose to happen?
Awesome video. This helps a lot!
The 1% rule is more along the lines of 1.1%, as BMW's own owners manual shows 245/35/20 F 275/30/20 R being a stock fitment for xDrive cars.
Thank you for this info..I need to see this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its because wider tires heat up more quickly therefore the air pressure increases more. So while driving the difference will be less
I had staggered factory wheels on my X5 is that just a thing for the cars?
As long as overall diameter is the same you can stagger away. Either in cars or SUV.
xDrive wheels are all over the place from factory. IIRC M sports come with staggered in europe, but not in the US, etc etc etc
Yeah that’s staggered from the factory. It’s built for it
@@Awackypenguin my 2014 435 xdrive Msport came stock with staggered 8,5 x 19 225/40front 9,5 x 19 255/35 rear in the US
Looks sick! Watch out for those potholes
I'm running 275/35/19 -245/40/19 same size wheels on my 435 xdrive
Hi ! Im considering to get the same size tires as you mentioned, want to use ACS lowering springs too, wondering will it be enough room after that. Did you lower yours?
Not sure but the 4 series may have just a little more room than the 3. That may be why you’re able to run 40s under there on the front
My bad maybe the ratio is still the same with 245/40
wow, what a coincidence, I just install the exact size rims and tires on my 440 ixdrive, looks and rides amazing.
What ET for front and rear?
Thanks for the pointers!
UK f31 330d xdrive comes with staggered from factory 225 front 255 back, like you said different side wall ratios
so clean!!
Just ordered some 19x8.5 +35 19x9.5 +35 245/40/19 285/35/19 (.5%) for my 435i X Drive and to top it off some Kies lug stud conversion 👌👌
Any rubbing issues on bumbs or with passengers/cargo load ?
Hi, am going to get these same size wheels and tyres for my 435d xdrive, any issues? Is that within 1%?
Double check the double checking :) I have 440xi with factory staggered wheels :) 8JX19 ET:36 rims with 225/40R19 tires on Front and 8,5JX19 ET:47 with 255/35R19 on the Rear.
440i xDrive w/Stagger Setup
S21W - 704M BMW
Bolt 5x120 / Center 72.56
FT: 8.0J x 19 ET36
RR: 8.5J x 19 ET47
I'm looking to buy
FT: 9.0 x 19 ET 30
Rr: 9.5 x 19 ET 35
The 2nd number or the aspect ratio is the percentage.
So 235/35 means the tire is 235mm wide and 35% of 235mm wide
or 235 x .35 = 82.25mm
The problem, if one analyses the physics inside the transfer box, is that the X-drive system is deficient. Put another way, it needs to be even more complex than it already is, to allow for different wheels/tyres/rolling diameters.
While "height divided by width" is true, it's much easier to thing about the aspect ratio as percentage of the width. Technically, it's the same thing but I'm betting most of us find it easier to thing about it in percentages.
Last great 3 series was the e90
Hi nice videos were in New Jersey is your shop I have a m5 need some work done I’m sure you can make some video on my v10
My Alpina B3 is xdrive but has OEM 245/30/20 and 265/30/20 which equates to 1,9% difference. So the tolerance might be 2% or less rather than 1%
no thats just for your car cause it was designed that way, for the cars who have oem square setups you shouldnt go over 1%
Yep. My X5 came with 275/40r20 and 315/35r20. And yes, I said 315.
Bmw 330i xdrive tires ;front 235/40/19 , rear 265/35/19 ,wheels OEM 437m ....are good ?,,,,,,greetings from Poland
Just bought a 23 m240i x drive and love it! I’m hoping to get another tire set. This stuff just confuses me. Great job explaining. Any chance you’ve done a m240?
Awesome videos guys!
Question. Will 255/35/19 F and 295/30/19 R fit with the same wheel set up? They have a 0% difference in height/ circumference
Yes it will fit with the right width & offset wheels. I suggest
19x8.5 et33 Front
19x10 et45 Rear
@@ildrichaseron what about if you have h&r springs?
What was the size tires you are using I would love to do my BMW this way and rim size and name
sheeeeeesh, the f30 almost looks sexier than Bryan but I still think Bryan takes the cake #kiesmotorsportgang
I'm running 265/30R19 in the rear on my F30 335i RWD with 437M 19s, I would have thought for sure that anything wider would rub. Although I'm also lower than that 340i in the video.
My f30 ‘18 320i xDrive M Sport comes with 255/40/R18 in the rear and 225/45/R18 in the front... stock!
Great video
I wonder if the AUDI A4 Quatro works within 1% of tire hight
My 2018 x5 runs 315 on the rear 275 front
@kiesmotorsports great video! What are you guys going to do with the wheels that are not bent? I have a 2013 335i with a staggered set of the same wheels. Unfortunately the finish is coming off one of my front wheels, which I believe are the same size.
My m235i came stock staggered. No issues after 40k miles 4 years
Great video Kris, Im running 225/45 R18 front and 255/40 R18 rear on my 2015 328i xdrive msport with no issues (except a little understeer) I didn't know running staggered could damage the transfer case, the calculator says 0% difference for my set-up, Thank you for the info and link.
PS also I appreciate the communication that my rear strut bar is on the way....
Any issues now? I am thinking about doing the same
That is factory M sport sizes in UK
I did the math and the set I would like was that the front tires will be 0.7% taller than the rear ones. Can I go ahead with the project or do the ones in the back have to be taller or does it not matter?
Hey what’s up fellas just wanted to say keep up the good work I love your channel since I’ve been watching it for the past week I just had a question I wanted to put some staggered wheels on my 2015 three series 328I gt xdrive and I wanted to know the size tires I needed for these rims 20" STAGGERED RENNEN WHEELS CSL 7 SILVER WITH CHROME LIP RIMS
Thank you for this video!!
I wanted the same set up for my F30 340xdrive... but with ESR.. how do I figure out the fitments or would it be roughly the same
Yes it can as mine came with 225/45/18 up front and 255/40/18 on the rears
My m550d xdrive has from factory 245/35/20 -275/30/20 rear
My F30 340i xdrive came factory with staggered wheels.
Bryan, This is the best video. I am looking for tires and rims for my 328. Would it look ridiculous to put that setup you had on this video on it? Oh, and I forgot to ask, did you put tire pressure sensors in the wheels or do you disable that?
My 650 xdrive comes from the FACTORY with staggered wheels and tires! 275/30-20 rear and 245/35-20 front with different wheel widths. All factory.
I have a 640i Xdrive. What is the wheel size and offset on your 650? I have 20x9 Et 15 all around. The tires are staggered though.
Works out to be 1.1% difference
The answer is yes 😅, I have an x5 with the M package and it comes staggered, 275/40/20 front and 315/35/20 rear.
💯Great Job bro ...Appreciate that calculator it's very helpful.
You answered lots of people's questions about the staggered wheels. 🙏
So my biggest question is that my m850i xDrive convertible came with front 245/35/20 and back 275/30/20 Perelli Runflat, so I Hit a pothole high speed which bent the front wheels and tires Bursted, in emergency the available tires installed by the shop are 245/45/20 vs 245/35/20 and my All wheel drive system is acting weird and throwing system malfunction and holding one side etc and etc.
So what bigger tire size or spacers can I get to fill the wheel both front and back.
Please advise me. Thank you 🙏
Try xDelete and turn off xdrive.
Next video.... pretty sure he's getting a brake caliper upgrade.
my 4matic benz staggered comes stock, wanting a square setup.
What a good offset? I'm looking at other wheel options
What about the offsets on the wheels etc? How much et do they have
Basically a +1 on the back. IMO, I wouldn't do this unless you have a good reason because your tires will wear faster and you cannot rotate them.
I'm hoping to reuse my staggered set of wheels from my damaged 330d over to a 335d xdrive. 255/40R 18 & 225/45R 18. Tyre size calculator says 0% variance. The tyres are only 3 months old but I will need to measure them as I expect the rears have seen a bit more wear than the fronts!! 😄
Doesn't the actual rim size need to be considered too? The numbers coming from the calculator alone won't account for any kind of stretch.
what kind of profile rim size 20? is there a video of this too?
The calculator only allowing me to enter front tires and i don't see box for rear wheels
Where can you get a transfer case from?
Is that a serious question?
Junk yard, ebay
What about the offset on the wheel itself can you have them run different from one another?
What about the tmps sensor?
Hello there I have a question I have a photo BMW 750 I extra Turbo what rimsona right now or 20" rims what size would also make it stagger with that size
I hit a pit hole and replaced one tires. Other tires are getting quite low but they all are same brand can I still drive them like that until winter or should I change all tires to match thread
Can you use the same size rim if you don't mind the bulge from the wider tire?
Can you still rotate them front to rear if the diameter is even?
I have a F10 2012 550i xdrive id like do same wheels. Can you help me with tire specs, rims, and offsets? Love the vids
Am I supposed to focus on the first percentage at the top that it gives me? I’m a bit confused to all the percentages it gave me but if I’m not mistaken only the first percentage they give you matters ?
Where can I find a color marched "Metallic Black" mirror caps like chris has?
We have a 335d x drive get with factory 19” wheels and they are staggered ??
What is the difference % between stock wheels, and the stagger set up?
It's within 1%
hey brian, are those rims’ price per piece or for a whole set of 4? they look really great!
Per wheel
Now he needs to tint the headlights
I just got some wheels F 20x9 and 20x10 R… can you please tell me what size tire I should buy ?
I m driving an F30 320i MSport will these type of tyres fit & the wouldn’t rub agains my wheel arches?
Will this setup work for a 2014 550i xdrive
Hello I have a question.I have a 2014 bmw 640i gran coupe xdrive.bought some rims that are 20x9 front and 20x10.5 in the rear.what size tires should I go with that would be in that 1%?
On my x3 e83 in original rear wheel is 0.5 wider than front.
Where you located? Is it fl plz?
I have a 19 m550i xdrive currently on stock 20” can I run a 17” or 18” with a 305/45/18 or 17?
What do you mean? My 2016 340 xdrive M Sport came with 442M in 8x19 and 8.5x19 with 225 and 255 tires.
My old F30 335i xdrive with the 19 inch msport wheels came staggered from the factory.
What if you have h&r springs?
They come from the factory with a staggers setup. IDK why this is even a question.
I don't think thats true all the time. My 2015 328xi has square setup while my 2016 328i rwd has staggered.
what kind of title is that - ofc you can, they come staggered from the factory lol
so this is a result of pre-LCIs having a bad part in the transfer case and staggered wheels being blamed a lot for causing the issues with them. My SA took one look at my aftermarket wheels and warned me of all the transfer cases he had replaced and that they wouldn't cover the warranty with aftermarket staggered wheels. Even people with square setups were having the issue and BMW changed out the part in the LCI. Bimmerpost F30 forums has a spreadsheet on the transfer case failures and they all seem to be 2014 and before with a couple 2015s.
Do a video on BMW's AWD. I have a 328xi 07 what size tires would help people like us.
That’s exactly what he’s doing in this video. Xdrive is BMWs AWD.
My F30 330D xdrive came with 403m, 225 on the front and 255 rear