Beefing Up the B3 Organ Bass (Nord Keyboards)
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Have you ever wanted to enhance the bass volume/effect of your Nord keyboard B3 organ? If you play in a worship setting with your Nord and the B3 organ, here are a couple of simple tricks to use with the Nord Stage 3 and Nord Electro 6 keyboards that could help. This technique works equally well for the pipe organ as well.
Or if you play keyboard bass but want to have only the sounds of the B3 to shine through without drawing attention to an awkward-sounding bass guitar in the split, these settings will also help with that.
This idea came as a direct request from a student taking the My Keys To Music Nord training and who also is a church organist. She was attempting to use a pure B3 but wanted more emphasized bass tones/frequencies in her performance. She reached out to me and I came up with this solution. She reported back that it worked really well for her. I thought I'd share our findings here.
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Some thoughts/remarks on this, if you are using the synth engine on the Nord Stage series to enhance the organ bass sound:
- If you have set the Organ key trigger point to "high" (in the Sound menu), the sound from the organ section will be heard a split second before the synth sound, because the synth sound is triggered only if you press the key further down. This can be good if you use organ playing techniques where you only touch the keys very lightly for percussive effects - in this case only the organ sound will be triggered, and not the synth sound, which for me makes the effect sound more realistic. On the other hand, there can be a double attack in the bass, making the bass lines sound somewhat strange. This can be worse if you play with less velocity, but will probably not be so bad if you hit the bass notes with high velocity.
- You could further divide the left hand split zone with another (=3rd) split point which is set to a width of e.g. 6 semitones. Then, if you assign the synth engine only to the lowest split zone, the enhanced bass will smoothly fade in around the middle split point - so you can use the left hand for bass and comping without having bass frequencies being over-representated for comping chords. This is recommendable for another reason also: The sinus wave from the synth engine somehow generates strange harmonical interference with the organ engine. This will not be recognized when only playing single, low notes for the bass, but if you play harmonies/chords.
- I would recommend setting up the upper section/split zone on panel A and the lower section/split zones on panel B. This is important e.g. because the organ on both panels will only use the reverb setting from panel A (as far as I know), ignoring the reverb on panel B. I guess while playing live, you will rather need the right hand panel active to adjust e.g. drawbar settings on the fly, and this way you will always have the active organ reverb at hands. Nice side effect: You can setup another/less hall for the synth engine bass on panel B (e.g. bright reverb with less amount), thus making the bass sound less washed out.
Thank you for your detailed comment and for sharing your experience with us here. I've pinned the comment because I think there is a lot to learn from it. Many thanks - Marc
I love your vids man.
Thanks a lot❤
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching!
Cool I just got an used electro 6 for 1500 and im diggin with these tutorials
Wow - that sounds like a great deal @Luis Flores Glad you like the tutorials. Don't forget to update your OS if you haven't already done so. The Electro just came out with one on 11/2/2020. Here is the video for that: ua-cam.com/video/bkPAmWBnF5c/v-deo.html Oh, and I recently added a lesson on how to duplicate the main sounds for "Wonderful Christmastime" by Paul McCartney found in the course on my main site as well ("Master the Nord Electro 6"). Link in the description above. Take care and have fun with your new board! 🎹
this was a save!!! Thank you
Glad to hear this April!
More great advice, Marc - I've added the sine wave to the B3 organ for the gig coming up next weekend, even though we do have a bass player! :)
I love how you took these ideas and are now using them on a gig. Hope it works out!
If you enjoy these uploads then you will definitely find Marc's tutorial course to be an excellent purchase. I am steadily working my way thru it...
MonsterJazzLicks You rock for saying that!! Thanks so much. For those interested in the Nord courses you can find them here: www.MyKeysToMusic.com 😄
With the E6D on the B3 Bass use the option dual organ and on the right hand you got the manual hammond drawbars and on the left hand you got the pedal hammond drawbars, if you have an midi bass pedals you can use external midi keyboard option to get the pedals sound on your midi pedals.
Great tip! Thanks
Good video
Thanks!
I got it, guys, you only got to use a 808 bass sample to beef the shit out the B3
I'm not sure what you're talking about but I play a B3 with two high powered 122 leslies and never had an issue with the bass. My leslies have the Kp 122 solid state power amps and the Organ is stock. I also have the Nord C2D with a Leslie 3300 and a stage 2. In some cases you do have to tune to the room. If I'm not using my leslie for the C2D i'm running both Nords through QSCs K12 tops and QSC KS112 subs. These are only used for the Keys. Nothing else. The keys are running directly into the QSCs. Most keyboardists like to use a Keyboard amp such as a Roland KC series. Not a big fan. In my opinion they are hollow sounding and do not handle bass "AS ALL" It really depends on what you're running your keys through. By the way, the B3 has been retired to my house as of about seven years ago.
D Novotny. Little Daron. I think you hit the nail on the head. If you are using the right amplification, the end result means that you don't have to use any compensation techniques like what I described here against the original sound of the B3. And as you have noted, there are a lot of people that will approach a gig or a B3 emulation by using a traditional keyboard AMP like a small Roland or an entry-level Peavey - perhaps one that is even too underpowered for their particular application. In those cases, they either have to compensate at the source or consider the Leslie/QSC setup with subs. Love this insight and thanks for sharing!
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You're welcome!
P.S. Nords ROCK! The best investment along with tthe QSCs I've ever made for light weight gear.
Agreed! I get a LOT of questions as to which amplification people should be using with their Nords. The #1 concern is how the piano sounds and the importance of using a stereo setup.
You can hook up a SUB WOOFER to any LESLIE / HAMMOND set up.
@daniel kinney Good to know and yes, this would solve the issue.
Works really great, thanks! As you know, Nord released their new Sample Editor. Are you updating that section in your Master-The-NordStage3-course? Thanks for your great work!
Hi Cees. Yes, I'll be releasing a preliminary video soon on this (Sample Editor 3) on UA-cam for the basics. I'm thinking of having a separate course for the Nord Sample Editor on my website if it warrants it. I might also charge a small fee for that as well. Haven't fully made that decision yet to be honest. I should know soon how this all comes to be but rest assured, I'll have pro training on the Sample Editor one way or another.
Hi, it's a great tip but its good to set attack to 1.5ms. When is set to less you can hear a click from synth.
Hi Mariusz. Good to consider the attack making a difference on the various synth sounds like this. I hadn't really focused on that but it does make a difference. Thanks for your comment!
Synth bass 5 also works to beef up the low end for organs, just FYI :)
Hello The Firmament! Thanks for the tip here. I find the Synth Bass 5 does beef up the bass and may be ok if you don't mind it to sound a little more "synthy" than a straight sine wave or the SH 101. I also notice the "synthyness" of it becomes a tad more noticeable if you're playing with less drawbars and no rotary speaker. But your point is a good one in that there are likely many bass sounds in the sample side of things that can enhance the bass of the B3. 😄
My Keys To Music , I like how Synth Bass 5 sounds with the pipe organ. But I lower the volume so it sits just under the pipe organ. It seems to blend well in the upper octaves and adds that powerful low end that real pipe organs have. Also, I do enjoy your tutorials and they have been a great help to me in getting to know my Nords. I have a Stage 3 88 key and the Stage 3 76 key. I had an Electro 6D but didn’t like that it only had the synth-sample engine and not an actual synth wave form creator (not sure I described that properly). And not having the panel A and B was a bummer to discover also. I use the Nord 76 in church and the Nord 88 in my home studio. Thanks again for your excellent tutorials 😁👍🙏✝️😊🎹🎼
Ah - with the pipe, I hadn't tried that. Thanks so much for the background here - wow two Nord Stage 3s! Love that. So glad the videos help out. There is more to come - in fact, many more ideas than there is time for, but we keep plugging away. Thanks for watching!
MARK can you please do a video on how to use a LESLIE 3300 with a NORD STAGE 3 like how to hook up the cords needed and how to set everything , also can you go into using the NEO VENT II. Thanks
Hello @daniel kinney I appreciate the suggestion here and I think it would make a great video. However, I don't own a Leslie or the NEO Vent II and don't feel right about doing a video without owning the actual equipment. If at some point in the future the channel grows large enough, I may be in a position to have retailers/manufactturers send me stuff to review and do tutorials on where I'd be happy to do such things. In the meantime, thanks for watching and sorry I can't be much of a help here for this request. 🤷♂️
I can't believe b3+bass isn't loud enough, I find I'm pulling the two drawbars in a little to tame it
Would be nice to make a pedal bass B3 sample to add it since it would that extra bass to the mix
Hi Luis. See my other comment - but yes, this idea is exactly what I was talking about in my other comment. Samples are very powerful and can be used in this way. And to your other point, you could use the organ engine from panel A for the upper manual B3. Then you could assign panel B as a lower manual B3 and a sample from the synth engine for the pedals.
"Brand New" To Your Website & Learning Keys for the first Time @ Age 71...My ? is I presume I'd follow these same procedures on my new NS3 Compact? I'm looking forward to spending a lot of time with all of you. Computer's, etc., are not my strong suit but it's the challenge once learned...next goal is to buy the C2D. Thnx for all your efforts.
Welcome Roger and congrats on your Nord Stage 3 Compact! This is one of the reasons I was inspired to make a channel like this. There are a lot of great musicians that follow along with a surprising amount of newcomers to the world of electronic music/synthesizers. At the current channel size, I find myself able to answer most of the questions but occasionally the community will chime in too. I assume as we grow larger, more and more people will have to chime in for me as it takes about 1 hour a day or so just to keep up.
Really interesting advice, thank you! I am thinking of getting a Stage 3 myself but as a B3 lover I am not sure if the weighted keys are the right thing. On the other hand I don't want to go below 88 keys. How do you like the keys and digital drawbars for organ playing comparing to the electro 6 for instance?
Greetings from Germany, Jan
Hi Jan. Thanks for your question. I personally prefer the digital drawbars for two main reasons: 1) I think they look "more modern" - and that appeals to me. Yes, I realize that for some, seeing the digital drawbars has the complete opposite affect where they much prefer physical ones more true to a real B3. 2) They light up so that they always represent the settings correctly as you more from program to program. With the physical drawbars, what you're looking at may not be representative of what the program is actually set to. Side note: Yamaha in one of their latest offerings has created physical drawbars with LED lights giving you the best of both worlds.
As far as the keys go, I much prefer the waterfall semi-weighted for any organ work. There is a big difference between the weighted keys and the waterfall so if you picture yourself doing mostly organ oriented music, then I would lean towards the waterfall for sure. It's also a fair bit lighter and gives you the added bonus of the optional half-moon switch option if you really want to go B3 all the way...
Since the stage 3 can play 2 organs at the same time, being both of them the B3 could you make a traditional organ trio set up with two manuals and pedals? Each one with different tone? I imagine this could be done with one B3 in dual organ mode? Or just the electro have those option? Maybe you can set up the melody with percussion and in the left hand a mellow comping in one organ in dual mode and the other organ would be triggered by the pedals?
Hello Luis. Hopefully, I'm understanding your question as I answer this here. So, I think you can get close to the traditional setup but as you already noted, the Stage 3 can play 2 separate organ sounds at the same time. If you introduce pedals, that would be a third sound engine and even in dual mode or any other setup, at the end of the day, the Stage 3 will only be able to play two different organ sounds at one time. You could however use the synth engine as the third sound source (let's say for argument sake, it was used for the pedal tones). Then yes, that should work. The Stage 3 synth engine has the ability to reproduce basic organ sounds when you use the "Wave" type oscillator option. You could also potentially use a sample for the pedal tones and use that from the synth engine as well.
I've never had this problem. What are you using for amplification?
If you must use a Sine Tone for that Sub Bass on an Electro there are several Sine Samples in the Nord Users Group that you might want to try.
Not sure what the person who requested this was using for amplification but that could explain some of this. Thanks for the tip on the Sub Bass for the Electro too. I didn't realize there were sine samples available on the Nord User Forum but that makes sense.
So for the Electro 6D, were you using the B3 Bass for your right hand as well?; layering the SH101 with the left half of the split point? If so, could you not have split the organ (B3 Bass in the LH and B3 in the RH) and then layered the SH101 with the LH B3 Bass?
Hi Monsterjazzlicks. So, I should have actually demonstrated putting the keyboard into B3 Bass with "Dual Organ" mode on the Electro 6. That would have been a better example actually because in dual organ mode, you have the full B3 in the right hand and the B3 Bass in the left. Then, because the keyboard is split automatically while in Dual Organ mode, you can layer the SH101 on the left split making for a very powerful effect indeed. Good observation and I'm surprised I didn't mention that option when I was recording this.
@@MyKeysToMusic - People will be aware of the option now anyway due to these recent comments. I have not tested it out as yet though on my Electro 6D...
@@monsterjazzlicks Yes, sounds good.
Please make a video on the new Nord sample editor 3:-)
Hi Simon. It's definitely on the list. Look for something to get us all started very soon...
Hi Simon. By now you may have already heard I have a Sample Editor 3 course out (and it's free). www.MyKeysToMusic.com. Thanks!
Thank you for your videos... Your videos have helped me to understand my nord stage 2...
But, i have a problem with my nord stage 2...
I don't know button what i touch... My nord stage 2, organ section, changes without my control. Like every i play the piano, then the organ section randomly changes. And sometimes, if i randomly enter the button to fix this problem, my organ section will back to normal. How to fix that (what is button to fix that problem)? Thank you.
Hi Thomas. This is interesting. I wonder if there is something loose on the board and the vibrations of playing the piano are causing an issue? Is there any way you can make a video of this happening? It's possible something might be wrong with it but it's hard to say. When it comes to repairing these, that is where I'm out of my element 😜. You could also try posting this message on the Nord User Forums. There are a lot of people there who have more experience with the hardware components and may be able to help further (www.norduserforums.com). Best of luck with this.
@@MyKeysToMusic thank you for your respon... i have been uploaded my problem to forum. Maybe, you could look my problem video in this Link: www.norduserforum.com/nord-stage-forum-f3/organ-section-randomly-changes-without-my-control-t19423.html#p130089
Hey Marc, thanks for the video and always being helpful with ideas. On my NS3, on a specific program set up that I want to apply your idea, my synth engines in both panels are occupied, and therefore I can't use the effect you are demonstrating to enhance it. BUT I figured out that if I turn on the AMP SIM/EQ with Org selected, I can create with couple adjustments there, a really rich and fat bass sound that can be used perfectly not only in church music style. At least in some programs, that all panels and engines are occupied, I think is a helpful solution. Check it out and let me know your thoughts. Cheers!
Adam thanks for the comment and for the great tip here. I just tested it and yes, it helps bring out the bass a lot and spares the precious synth engine for other duties. Good use of the EQ in this situation - thanks for watching and for your contribution today! 👍🏼
Great to hear Marc! Thank you for testing and advising! 👍🏼👍🏼
@@adamandrou4743 Happy to help!
Hey I have a question I couldn't answer. Is there a way to connect a pedal board to play the organ bass in the sample section in the NE 6 while you play splitted manual B3? To play just like any Hammond
Hello @Luis Flores González So unfortunately this is not possible. In order to use an external controller like a pedal board and have that controller only play to the Synth engine, you would use the option called "External Keyboard To Low" . The moment you put the keyboard into this mode, the "Dual Organ" feature which allows you to play a splittled manual, no longer splits. It becomes a standard B3 with a single set of drawbar settings that span the entire range of the keyboard. So it sounds like you can have one or the other but not both according to everything I've read and personally experiemented with here on this end. So, you can certainly have your pedals control only the synth (which is a nice feature), but you'd have to live with a single B3 setting while you play.
@@MyKeysToMusic thank you for taking the time to answer!! Would be a interesting video to compare the electro 6 vs Nord stage 1 to see which would be better
@@luisfloresgonzalez2337 I would love to compare these two keyboards however I find that the best comparisons happen when I actually have the keyboard in my hand. I don't have a Nord Stage 1 (A.K.A. the Original Nord Stage) so I won't be doing this video. However, perhaps it could be done even without the keyboard based on specs alone. In any case, I've decided to focus the channel on Nord keyboards made after 2016 for the Stage, Electro and the Synths lines only. You'll see I don't have any videos on the Nord Pianos or Nord Grand and I don't plan to. I think if compare the specs of the original stage here: www.nordkeyboards.com/products/legacy/nord-stage-classic/nord-stage-specification with the specs of the Electro 6 here: www.nordkeyboards.com/products/nord-electro-6/nord-electro-6-specification you'll have a good start on this. Best of luck with your future decisions!
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Thanks Dave. I also added in video sections to this one. Now you can hover your mouse over the video scrubber and the sections are called out directly making it simple for the user to find where the main content of the video begins. Now I need to do that on the 100 plus videos across the channel. 🤣
In the nord electro 3 you have not this bass option .., cause organ engine works well default
That is good to know. I used to own an Electro 3 (it was my first Nord keyboard), But back then, I didn't pay close enough attention to how the organ sounded or had enough experience to even know what to listen for... Thanks for your comment!
@@MyKeysToMusic hi! Altough it is well known that 2nd nord organ engine is better in details and enrichments of the sound (obviously), many nord user thinks that the first generation (in particular those of electro 3, derived from c1) has more authentic-emotional feeling ! And this is not a isolated case: old Roland clonewheels sound better then the newers one…thank you for your reply
Great Vids, if your trying to tempt me into buying a NORD, it won't be long !
Thank you @Stacey Carras - There are a lot of choices out there each one with pros and cons. I guess we live in a great era of having so many choices (perhaps too many choices). As such, you have to decide which one resonates with you on the big ticket items - whatever that may be. Many retailers too will provide a return policy in the event you ultimately want to try another (not ideal, but doable). In any case I have found that the Nord boards in particular are very good (great even) at most everything with a small handful of exceptions.
I made a very short list here of some pros and cons since I've been using Nord for years and have read lots and lots of comments about what people have to share about them as well. I'm not in any way sponsored by them whatsoever. They still don't even know who I am LOL. But I like to keep it that way so that I can remain neutral.
*What people are critical about Nord keyboards*
1) They are not workstations so they don't make an all-in one music composition instrument without the use of an external computer/recording unit. (Many people lump them in a different class by trying to compare a Nord Stage 3 with a Korg Kronos). These are two different categories, but they do it none the less. When that happens, they get critical.
2) They have no built in sequencers, no drum sounds, nothing to help arrange or compose music directly (see #1)
3) The trumpet/brass/sax sounds are not the best (but these are fairly hard instruments to imitate). There are only a handful of boards that have a decent sounding trumpet for example.
4) Some people find that the feature set relative to the price is lacking compared to other brands. (overpriced)
*What people love about Nord keyboards*
1) The high sound quality of the Pianos, Electro Mechanical and effective synth sounds
2) Ease of use (learning them with minimal menu diving)
3) Terrific ability to tweak sounds on the fly - live while playing.
4) Strong support for changing pianos and samples at no extra charge
5) Ability to make your own samples and use them how you wish.
6) Good community (Nord User Forum, Facebook Groups and lots of UA-cam videos etc.)
@@MyKeysToMusic WOW ! Mark I wasn't expecting such an amazingly detailed reply, or any at all to be honest, NORD are out of their minds not putting someone like yourself on a weekly retainer !!!!, I have a few questions if you don't mind, I'm all about the Fender Rhodes trip, I've noticed that your Nord stage has dedicated rate/amount knobs for the auto pan in effects 1, but the Electro only has effect level, is their a way to assign/configure any of the other knobs or sliders on the Electro to control the rate and depth of the Auto pan independently with in a Song/Patch etc ?, could it be done with the Organ half moon switch ? in some way ? or with an external midi device ?, also do The Nord Stage and Electro remember where you left them when you turned their power off or do they power up with their set default ? ( this is one of my pet hates of these type of devices ! ), also can you leave the power on/off switch to "On" and just turn the keyboard on from your wall power ? ( I've been doing this for years with my Roland HP203, it makes life so much easier, although the Roland does that default Piano 1 sound every time it comes on, you can't program it to remember anything, it drives me up the wall !, as the sounds in it are quite good and it has a really nice key bed ), the only NORD ( and Electro5 ) that I've ever actually tried was in a local music shop and it had that really light keyboard action which I felt ( on 1st impression very cheap, but probably well suited for organ ), but I would probably prefer to the really heavy and sluggish Korg Kronos !, I really like Korg but that keyed is an instant turn off, I'll tell you I also tried the Dexibell S9, the best Keybed I've ever tried in a digital unit, probably in the same class as The Nord Grand ( although I'm only guessing on the latter ), last question that vid you did about the dual Boss control pedal, can you control all those things on the Electro via a midi pedal ?, again many thanks for all you hard work in this wonderful NORD support community.
@@staceycarras3815 Thank you for your kind words and good questions!
1) Regarding the Auto Pan effect on the Electro 6: Yes, both the rate and the amount can be controlled by an external MIDI controller using CC#s 86 and 85 respectively. You would need a MIDI-enabled control device and something that can "store" the settings within the unit itself. Something such as the Roland FC-300 MIDI Foot Controller should do it. However, these are not plug n play. They require programming a bit: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/FC300--roland-fc-300-midi-foot-controller
Keep in mind that if you use a control pedal on the Electro 6, the Auto Pan amount is done by the pedal and the rate by the knob.
2) As far as keeping the keyboard on and plugged in. That's not recommended but it works. AND it stays on the program you were working on (it doesn't reset itself).
3) A MIDI Up/Down switch as demonstrated in this video: ua-cam.com/video/Me6X9eQ6gIk/v-deo.html is pre-defined as a one-trick pony to send a MIDI program change message for up and down. That's all it can do. It doesn't not work in LIve mode for any of the Nords keyboard. Moving up and down in live mode with a programmable control pedal or a computer it is possible to control live mode going up and down on MBS Live #6. This would be an advanced thing to setup from any controller and you'd really have to do your research. the Roland FC-300 may be able to do something like this as well.
Hope that helps with the questions.
@@MyKeysToMusic I can see a NORD keyboard on my Horizon, I'm incredibly grateful for your advice and help Marc, this is the kind of support that's lacking In other products, but so important. As soon as I can afford a Nord, I'll be joining your course that's for sure, one last question if you had to chose, which is the better option in your opinion for the Bass Organ enhancement solution, the SH101 or the Synth Engine sine wave route ?
@@staceycarras3815 Thanks for your support here Stacey! So, The SH101 is perfect if you want to "hear" the bass and have it be part of your sound. However, because the SH101 may be perceived as "synth sounding" you run the risk of tainting the sound if you are going for a worship-friendly or a more traditional organ sound. If you just want the bass "feel" or the "effect" of the bass without actually depicting a distinct sound, then go with the sine wave. The sine wave will make you feel like you just added a subwoofer to your PA. The SH101 will make it sound like you just hired a synth player to fill in on bass. 🎶
I have the stage 3 I want to make some dubstep noises do you have any advice for me?
Hi Eddie - long time no hear. You could consider getting samples of various ones and using the brand new Nord Sample Editor 3.0 and download the samples to your Nord Keyboard. That would probably be the quickest way to get it done. I don't think the Stage 3 was born to pull this style of music off out of the box, however. I could be wrong. The Nord Wave 2 (just announced) has a new "Gate feature for rhythmic effects" which is not available on the Stage 3 and that's really part of what makes dubstep work (with my very limited understanding of dubstep). Let us know how you make out with this.
My Keys To Music hey boss! Thank you yea I’ve not been able to play much trying to get back to it. Could u make a video on this? I’ve just never put new sounds on from the computer not really sure how to
Thanks Eddie... I plan on making more videos in the near future about working with samples and putting them on your Nord keyboard - especially now with the new Sample Editor 3.0. Stay tuned!
What about the Stage 4?
@nelsonramos208 Nelson, this concept would work equally well for Nord Stage 4, but I don't have plans to put out a video of it here on UA-cam. I may consider this, however, for the recently released Master class available on my website: www.MyKeysToMusic.com.
Hey, just asking - found a nord electro 2 for 600 bucks, should i pick it up?
Hey Jørgen! So, I just checked reverb.com and they have two Electro 2s for sale (both 73 key). One for $600 and requires local pick in Los Angeles, CA (USA). Then there is another one for sale (also in California) that is going for $750 plus $150 for shipping. I would say if you have your hands on an Electro 2 for $600, you have a good deal in front of you. The question is, will the Electro 2 do what you need it to or is it worth expanding your budget a bit to consider a newer Nord board?
For example, if you could swing between $1100 and $1500, you might be able to pick up an Electro 3. That's kind of a big deal because the Electro 3 is compatible with the Nord Sound Manager and the Nord Sample Editor version 2.0. That means you get a LOT more flexibility to load your own samples and pianos. On the Electro 2, the pianos are fixed with no ability to swap and it has no ability to play any samples from the vast and ever-growing Nord Sound Library 2.0. In fact, just yesterday (2020/01/15), they added some killer strings to the library and they included those strings in the Library 2.0 as well (for example). The Nord Electro 3 comes with 185 MB of piano memory and 68MB of Sample Memory. (Granted, that memory will mean you won't be able to load many pianos/samples at the same time - but it's something). I realize of course, that doubles the budget! But it might be worth saving for?
However, with all that said, in the end, any Nord Keyboard is better than none. When I first saw a Nord Keyboard, it was an Electro 2 and I was blown away by the realism of the Rhodes sound. Ever since that day, I've been a true "Nord Boy" causing a ripple effect that you see here on this channel which has now expanded into professional courses at www.MyKeysToMusic.com. My first Nord board was also an Electro 3.
Best of luck with your decision!
Fine print: Please note that prices change all the time and the above info will likely be way outdated by the time you are reading this. Shipping also plays a part in the decision when buying a used keyboard so keep your eyes open and your pen sharp!
@@MyKeysToMusic Thank you so much for taking the time to answer! I think i'll be patient and wait for a good deal for a Nord Electro 3. Also the one i was looking at only had 61 keys, i think i prefer 73.
@@jrgenmoland7580 I think the 73 keyboard will give you some added flexibility. I have the Electro 61 key keyboard that I'm going to use for a gig for the first time this Sunday so we'll see how that goes. I've been using a minimum 73 keyboard for the last 15 years so I'm going to see where the challenges are first-hand. But I agree if you can swing it, go 73 key!
@@jrgenmoland7580 Hello, if I'm able to speak and with respect for Marc and this channel you may consider to buy other brand than Nord if your needs require it. If you want it for gigs mostly, well you may need a bunch of different samples cause most of gigs would require certain amount of samples but they are not that exotic so you should sample each sound cause that synth in particular it's very rare. Instead most gigs just need the same sounds mostly. If you want it cause you want to load your favorite sounds that you create and that's what you are looking for, the you should go with Nord. If you want organ to be one of your mainly sounds, maybe the electro 3 it's not enough since the electro 4 made significant improvements and the it was drawbars if that's what you like. And the finally reason you should consider it's that even the electro 6 which I have has what I consider a very low memory amount, 500MB and even then I feel sometimes that those are not enough samples to be myself ok with it. Even on the electro 6 you cannot make split points between samples, unless you later and splitt them from the Nord editor. Any way Nord it's a very cool board specially on live situations. For original music and some gigs it's a monster in terms of sound like Rhodes, organs, clavs. But if you want it mostly for cover gigs then I think you could save some money. You should pick a board that fits to you actual and future needs, you are not the one that should fit for a board because of hipe and spectation. Excuse my english
Spoiler: the first few MINUTES he's only beating about the bush... the real hint/solution comes at #4:40
Thanks Gernot. Ya, I'm working on cutting down my longish intros! Thanks for watching none the less...