American Reacts to There's More to Dutch Roads Than You Think

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  • @RichardRenes
    @RichardRenes 9 місяців тому +35

    Yes the number of traffic deaths is rising. Main culprit is the influx of people on bicycles that haven't participated in traffic for a while and do so now at a pace they shouldn't: the elderly on electric bicycles!

    • @ricardomeertens9165
      @ricardomeertens9165 9 місяців тому +5

      Foreigners especially careless students a mandatory bike exam should be required like our own kids do

    • @erics320
      @erics320 9 місяців тому +6

      Don't forget smartphone use while riding/cycling.

    • @RealConstructor
      @RealConstructor 9 місяців тому +2

      Young people and children with earphones and headphones on while cycling or walking is also a source for accidents. Roads can never be that safe for you to wear headphones while cycling or walking. Also people under the influence of nitrous oxide gas (lachgas) and other drugs are increasing. Because accident rates are low and the chance of getting caught is even lower, people are getting careless and take the gamble. If they think at all, they only think about their own chance of being caught, they never or hardly ever think about other road users they could harm.

    • @kailahmann1823
      @kailahmann1823 9 місяців тому +1

      Jep, we see the same in Germany. The median age for people dying in a bicycle crash is 66 and it's not the elderly "falling of their bike", but them ignoring priority of a car (like when crossing the road out of town). Or maybe they are underestimating the time they'd need to cross.

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot 8 місяців тому

      @@erics320 Smartphone use had no significant impact over the past decade. They're a small blip in the studies shared by the SWOV.

  • @jpfoto64
    @jpfoto64 9 місяців тому +4

    less rules and regulations make it simpler,
    no more countless exemptions but the same basic rules that aply for everyone and everywere.
    that is how you make it safe,r by admitting less rules and regilations.
    you can keep noise leves low by reducing the speed in city's.
    At higher speeds, the noise a car produsec comes mainly from the tyres,
    so on faster roads they can use zoab. (dutch invented tamack that has an open structure so water get drained trough it and also produces less noise when cars drive over itr) and also ways as placing soundscreens next to the highway,
    Or as done on the new highway between rotterdan and den haag, lower the highway compared to the surrounding landscape, by basicly digging it into a trench.
    ua-cam.com/video/ZiNn9LT3FWk/v-deo.htmlsi=qPUliAjdP3BuownU

  • @TheTekknician
    @TheTekknician 9 місяців тому +21

    I believe it's actually if not absolutely possible to say that in the Netherlands, if you can get there by car, you can get there by bike. And on much shorter trips, you may oftentimes find that you're quicker with the use of a bike, rather then a car.

    • @jeffafa3096
      @jeffafa3096 9 місяців тому +5

      This is especially true in the cities. Taking your car to a destination a mile away is usually slower than taking your bike. This is mostly because the cities favor bike lanes over car lanes. In the more rural areas you are still quicker by car, although public transport and bicycle paths do not fall far behind. Usually it's only a few minutes difference...

    • @kailahmann1823
      @kailahmann1823 9 місяців тому +2

      @@jeffafa3096within cities it even works with very basic bike networks. Cars are just their own biggest enemy, because they are constantly blocking each others path and need complicate regulations like traffic lights. So once the cyclists have a route, where they aren't blocked by cars, they are faster.

  • @TerryVogelaar
    @TerryVogelaar 9 місяців тому +10

    The traffic fatalities are indeed rising lately. This is mainly because of the increasing popularity of electric bikes among the elderly. The infrastructure is built for normal human-powered bikes, and perfectly safe for those. But those e-bikes make the elderly go fast, and they aren't used to wear helmets. They do have the slow reflexes that comes with their age. You'll get the picture.

    • @EVERTSMID
      @EVERTSMID 8 місяців тому

      And a lot more Aholes and drunk people🤣🤣✌️

    • @ellenotten9663
      @ellenotten9663 8 місяців тому

      zullen we nu daar ook even de fat bikes bij vermelden met de jongeren en de velen die met de telefoon een doppen rond fietsen

    • @TerryVogelaar
      @TerryVogelaar 8 місяців тому

      @@ellenotten9663 Absoluut! Fat bikes zijn tenslotte ook e-bikes, maar dan de variant die populair is onder jongeren. Ik had misschien niet uitsluitend de ouderen moeten vermelden.
      Oordopjes zijn inderdaad ook gevaarlijk, maar dat is niet een heel nieuw probleem. Al in de jaren 80 zag je fietsers met walkmans en koptelefoons. Mobieltjes worden ook al heel lang gebruikt op de fiets. Ondanks die gevaren ging het sterftecijfer omlaag. Maar nu e-bikes populair geworden zijn, is het een ander verhaal.

    • @bordewolf
      @bordewolf 8 місяців тому

      beter dan auto's !@@TerryVogelaar

    • @allws9683
      @allws9683 8 місяців тому

      The chance of dying on a bike is greatest for elderly. Since 2000 the number of 65+ agers has quadrupled ! (baby boomers and increased life expectancy). And elderly spend more time on a bike than before. So it is logical that the fatality rate in that group is rising. For ages under 65 , the safety still has improved, albeit not as much as for car drivers..
      The majority of those (65+) fatal incidents were onesided, there were no others involved. A fall with descenging/ascending a bike can cause fatal complications.
      A similar increasing trend can be seen with more elderly falling/dying in bathrooms. There are more elderly...

  • @StartPlayFinish
    @StartPlayFinish 9 місяців тому +7

    The markings on the CCTV were added in later. The yellow circle marks a problem point. The light blue marks a car turning right. The Dark blue marks a biker going straight. The yellow circle is where both of these would get into an accident if the car wasnt paying attention. Both have a green light. The biker has right of way (because hes moving in a straight line). Its issues like these that can be prevented by designing your roads in a different way so these situations dont occur.

  • @yousnoerd
    @yousnoerd 9 місяців тому +12

    Alvast een gelukkig nieuwjaar Charlie! 🍾🥂
    Happy New Year in advance bro!

    • @dutchman7623
      @dutchman7623 9 місяців тому +4

      From all of us! And to the entire family/friends!

    • @lexiyoutube
      @lexiyoutube 9 місяців тому +2

      still a couple hours away but it is coming ,,, and it is a nice one this one NEW YEAR.

  • @mavadelo
    @mavadelo 9 місяців тому +4

    11:55 Because we don't pronounce our letters the English way but the Dutch way. So not Sea, Ar, Oh, Double You. But Say, Air, Oh, Way.
    18:53 Not regulate, control... Different types of Asphalt create different types of noise levels. Just driving over concrete is much louder than driving over Dutch ZOAB (Zeer Open Asphalt Beton - Very Open Asphalt Concrete) and of course what is put underneath the asphalt helps as well.

  • @dutchman7623
    @dutchman7623 9 місяців тому +4

    'Build the Lanes' is using Dutch spelling, CROW becomes Say Er Ooh Way, instead of See Ar Oh Double-you.
    He is getting Dutch fast. Just hoping he can transfer his knowledge a bit to his 'original' nation.

  • @erics320
    @erics320 9 місяців тому +4

    The introduction of the smartphone is a big cause of more deaths in traffic.
    I see so many teen age bikers holding a phone while cycling, often with headphones, texting or talking to friends or listening to music.
    Ofcourse some cardrivers are also using the phone while driving.
    The road awareness drasticly declines when you immediatly want to check the lastest message you recieved.

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot 8 місяців тому

      Phones have had almost no influence on traffic fatalities in the Netherlands. They did in North America. Don't use North America for data on things that happen in the Netherlands.

    • @erics320
      @erics320 8 місяців тому

      @@therealdutchidiot Dat verbaasd mij, ik zie zo veel jongeren op de fiets die alleen maar aandacht hebben voor dat kleine schermpje.
      Ik heb zelf al diverse malen moeten uitwijken voor zo'n idioot. Maar ik heb hier nooit statistieken over opgezocht.

  • @MrShidimaOne
    @MrShidimaOne 9 місяців тому +3

    Part of the reason we don't sue every one, is that in the law there is a thing about own responsibility. If I microwave my cat because its not in the manuel that I cant do that, I cant sue the microwave company. The judge would throw it out because what I did was stupid and I should know better.

    • @tjallingdalheuvel126
      @tjallingdalheuvel126 8 місяців тому

      Imagimime the library filling manual we should have the read. Although the microwave thing is not that absurd, as microwave heating stems from soldiers warming up in front of the radar.

  • @Peacefrogg
    @Peacefrogg 9 місяців тому +4

    A cycling street is not the same as a cycling path. It’s a relatively new hybrid between a cycling path and a road. It’s implemented on roads that are used primarily by cyclists, but does need to be used by cars bc of ppl living there or some other pressing reason why you can’t get rid of it completely. So you paint the whole road red, put in speedbumps, speedlimit, all to make it unattractive to car drivers.
    Not a cycling path, cycling paths are a lot more narrow and there’s a different road sign.

    • @kailahmann1823
      @kailahmann1823 9 місяців тому

      there are basically two types of bike streets: The big one, where cyclists get a priority route though a 30 zone. And the small one, where very few homes use a slightly oversized bike path to access their yard.

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot 8 місяців тому

      It's not new at all. The fietsstraat has existed for over 40 years. The only thing that's relatively new (introduced in the 90s) is the specific pavement.
      An ETW-30 (erftoegangsweg 30km/h), otherwise known as a street is a fietsstraat by design.

    • @Peacefrogg
      @Peacefrogg 8 місяців тому

      @@therealdutchidiot i don’t think that’s the same. That’s more like a woonerf or something. A cycling street is orange and one of the purposes is that cyclists don’t have to make way for cars. So you can keep riding next to your child.
      And it usually does have a lot of traffic, especially bikes. Usually in the city, and it does connect other roads, it is just discouraged for cars.

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot 8 місяців тому

      @@Peacefrogg By design they're identical. By purpose? They sure as hell are identical. Again, a fietsstraat is nothing new, and it's not enforceable. It's not without reason the signage is an advisory L52, because nothing in Dutch law can enforce the behaviour. It's why many of the newer fietsstraten have failed, because the surrounding network doesn't accomodate.

    • @kailahmann1823
      @kailahmann1823 8 місяців тому

      @@therealdutchidiotthere is one major difference: a ETW-30 has no through-traffic of any kind. A fietsstraat however is a through-route for cyclists, just not for cars. So the way traffic calming is handled is a bit different, as it should only slow down the cars, not the cyclists. And yes, in reality there are way more of them than officially signed.

  • @GeorgeSaint666
    @GeorgeSaint666 8 місяців тому +1

    Hi Charlie, as a Dutchman I'll explain to you some of the things you do not understand.
    1) Yes, everything is connected. You could basically bike from all the way up most North to the deep South and never leave the bicycle lanes. That is how connected everything is here.
    2) At 8:18 you said "...but cars can not just drive on the cycle path right?" ... No. But a cycle street (fietsstraat) is NOT a cycle path. It is a "normal" street where the desired road behavior is intended to favor the cyclists. That is why most of these will have the famous red paving, so automobile drivers instantly know what the intend is there. So yes laws can not prevent a automobile from overtaking a cyclist, but the design of the road will favor the cyclist. For instance in the video you see at 8:30 that there is a small section of stones in the middle of the street. This is a very slightly elevated section of stones that will do 2 things. First is will tell a car driver that his wheels are over the center. And second if he does want to overtake a cyclists the car will feel the slight discomfort of the slight height difference with the rest of the road. This psychologically will prevent the car to drive too fast and overtake cyclists. But it will not prevent that driver from doing so if he wants too.
    3) At 10:05 you said: "Is the number rising?" ... Unfortunately yes. That is thanks to the introduction of electrical bikes, which go faster than normal bicycles.
    4) at 11:51 you asked: "Why is it called the "say" (C) R O "way" (W)..." ... That is because the narrator is using the Dutch language for it. In our native tongue we pronounce C as "say" instead like "sea", and the W as "way" instead of "double U". The narrator is using the wrong pronunciation.

    • @tjallingdalheuvel126
      @tjallingdalheuvel126 8 місяців тому

      Basically? Actually. Could even walk the Pieterpad. Not practically to cycle across the country. In town yes. Even if it takes more time getting there, goud chance you will make it up parking and walking the remainder to where you need to be.

  • @gerbentvandeveen
    @gerbentvandeveen 9 місяців тому +1

    Best wishes and God's blessings for the new year. We hope your 4th. 2024, experiencing beautiful things. Greetings from Spakenburg, Netherlands. Gerben T and Gabrielle.

  • @kailahmann1823
    @kailahmann1823 9 місяців тому +3

    "connects most of the Netherlands"… this "most" would be true for Denmark, Northern Germany or the Dutch speaking park of Belgium - but not for the Netherlands. There a street without a bike lane is _automatically_ an ETW ("30 zone"), removing the "thing in the middle" problem: Streets, which are to narrow for bike lanes, but to busy to be a 30 zone. So every single location in the Netherlands is safely reachable by bike.

    • @kailahmann1823
      @kailahmann1823 9 місяців тому

      About 1972: That year had two important aspects: the oil crisis and a new record in traffic death all over the developed world. This let to many countries rethinking the idea of "cars as unlimited freedom", even the US tried to tackle their extremely inefficient engines - but none welt as far as the Dutch approach of "cars should not be the primary mode of transportation".

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot 8 місяців тому

      @@kailahmann1823 Correct, The only thing remaining is turning right on red, which was introduced to save fuel.

  • @Rudi_Wolff
    @Rudi_Wolff Місяць тому

    4:30 _"... was that the Transformers or something Comm, uh, cartoon from the 80's? I don't know."_
    No, that was from the TV-show *Rick and Morty* season 5 episode 7 "Gotron Jerrysis Rickvangelion".

  • @MunchWillbeBlue
    @MunchWillbeBlue 9 місяців тому +2

    8:22 Well the sign they posted to is a cyclestreet. Meaning this if for people to cycle, but cars are guests here. At the same time they say there is no legal text that can enforce this and this is true. So then you have to look at the Dutch road catagories and useages. A highway or "National traffic road" takes you from area in the country to area in the country, once you exit you go onto another "highway" but this is the "regional traffic road" that takes you from city to city (The difference is a A road or an N road. They do have different rules but lets not jump into that) in that area or province. Then you go onto a Main road in a town or a "gebieds ontsluitings weg" or main roads within a city. From those you reach Local areas on what we call "erf toegangs wegen" so the "final" roads you use to reach your hous. Then you can reach bike roads. Those are cycle roads that cars can use. Tough typically it could be a dead end for cars as a border for them just for the final few hundred meters of their trip while for bikes they can use it as main bike road. This way the amount of cars going to use this bike road where cars are guests is limited. On top, their own kids are learning to bike there and play there. So they take extra care there. A typical use could be along an appartment building where it is a main road for the bikes but for cars they reach their garage from there to park. No other car then a resident of the appartment building has any use of using it.
    24:25 That explains polderpolitiek. No person that doesnt take care of the people in their reagion in politics wont become a politician. They would be dragged out and replaced.

  • @johanverschure5168
    @johanverschure5168 8 місяців тому +1

    We're not sue happy, but as an example the municipality where my grand parent lived neglected road maintenance in the area near my grand parents. So one day an elderly woman got her stroller in a put hole, she fell and broke her hip. Her health insurance company sued the municipality for the costs they made. They won for the put hole existed already over 2 months, so there was ample time to fix it.

  • @RickDangerousNL
    @RickDangerousNL 8 місяців тому

    The "W" in Dutch has a similar sound to the "V", especially when it's pronounced with an accent like that, that's why you probably got confused. It's not like in English where the "V" and "W" are completely different when used to spell.

  • @Genesizs
    @Genesizs 8 місяців тому

    1:52 he is pronouncing the letters in Dutch like the Dutch would pronounce them
    CROW: C = SAY R = ER O = O W = Way ______ Say Er O Way CROW x)

  • @DaRealHananas
    @DaRealHananas 8 місяців тому

    C. R. O. W.
    The W is only purnounced in the English language as Double U. Which is wrong, if anything it should be Double V.
    Any other country has it as it's own letter. In Dutch it is purnounced as wey the protein.

  • @roykliffen9674
    @roykliffen9674 9 місяців тому +1

    The pronunciation of the V and W are pretty close in Dutch; "vay" versus "way" (not exact but close). When using the Dutch pronunciation in a spoken English text it can lead to the confusion.

  • @Crogatho
    @Crogatho 9 місяців тому

    A completely random question, are you saving up for a better camera setup? It might attract more subscribers, because unfortunately a lot of people are shallow and like shiny, flashy, new-looking things. I am just wondering about that, I think your content is great and usually keeps me glued for hours.

  • @jurgenvoogt1638
    @jurgenvoogt1638 3 місяці тому

    And they compare a whole country to 2 cities where there are a couple of 'better' areas to cycle . Don't make me laugh (or puke). 20000 miles of perfect bikelanes👊

  • @arturobianco848
    @arturobianco848 9 місяців тому

    you questioned if the numbers of serious road incidents has been rising. And yes it has in the Netherlands not only in absolute numbers but als so in relative numbers. Now i haven't seeen all of the statistics yet but the primairy reason for it is a bit 2 fold. the most importend one is e bikes wich means there are more people vonerable people on the road who ride at much higher speeds. Also they are getting older like way older and the "the old and infirm" don't make for the best road users. Also from a (car)drivers persepective they are pretty difficult to anticipate you just don't expect a 70+ citizen moving at +15 MpH speeds.
    The other thing is things are getting busy again after covid and thats after a couple of years of quiteness so people are a bit out of habit of driving safely it just takes practise to manouver in busy circumstances. Especially with a complete new vehicle like the e-bikes and larger groups of senior citizens suddnely being trown in the mix.

  • @RickW222
    @RickW222 6 місяців тому

    on your reaction with the girl on the bike around the roundabout: "I hope they're carefull". Yes we are :) its just that we're used to bikes and pedestrians everywhere and especially with a roundabout like that where the bikes have right of way, we slow down, look carefully and then continue

  • @jeffafa3096
    @jeffafa3096 9 місяців тому +1

    Translation at 7:20 of the traffic law:
    "The law of traffic rules and signs 1990 (RVV 1990) is a proclamation to the road traffic law 1994 and is active since november 1st 1991. Similar to the introduction of the road traffic law 1994, reduction and simplification of rules were an important spearpoint. The traffic rules therefore limit themselves to basic rules. Many detailled rules were cancelled. This did create the need to punish unsafe behavior that does not fall under RVV 1990. This happens through article 5, book of traffic laws (the "kapstokartikel"). Traffic laws only need to be applied in essential cases. The shaping and planning of the infrastructure need to stimulate the desired traffic behavior. Traffic signs that need to be applied support the planning of the road and emphasize the current regime. That's why rules punishable by law are only acceptable when alternatives are lacking.
    The ministry (OM) is, for this reason, of opinion that setting a lower maximum speed in residential areas should only be applied when infrastructural measures are made which ensures self-regulating areas. The ministry also notes that no supervision should be appointed when no or insufficient measures are taken. By now the ministry is a bit more nuanced in their opinion when it comes to roads with a historical character, to which applying the traffic measures which stimulate the desired traffic behavior is not always possible."
    Basically this says: Don't be an A-hole in traffic, and stick to the general guidelines we provide, and everything will be fine.

  • @1aapmens
    @1aapmens 9 місяців тому

    we (the Dutch) are not sue happy, but insurance companies will sue, to get to clarity on liability questions.

  • @hushus10021971
    @hushus10021971 8 місяців тому

    I do not speak dutch, but I understand much because I do speak danish, german and english. Same languages as dutch are build on

  • @henrijansen4224
    @henrijansen4224 9 місяців тому

    Nous reduction by lowering speed and type of asfalt!

  • @gerbentvandeveen
    @gerbentvandeveen 9 місяців тому +1

    In the Netherlands, you do not have a bank drive-in. In Italy, there are guards with ozis. For the bank.

  • @basvandiepen2772
    @basvandiepen2772 7 місяців тому

    11:51 that's the Dutch pronunciation of the acronym

  • @jurgenvoogt1638
    @jurgenvoogt1638 3 місяці тому

    Something else. When there is a very rare pothole in a road it will be repaired within hours

  • @eronsentertainmentstore6487
    @eronsentertainmentstore6487 8 місяців тому

    Because that's how the Dutch pronunciate the C :)

  • @KeesBoons
    @KeesBoons 9 місяців тому +1

    Enjoy the transition into 2024 Charlie, and all the best for you and yours in the new year.

  • @johnah2
    @johnah2 6 місяців тому

    They are 2 separate entities, the narrator just explained that the SWOV was the eyes and ears, and then the CROW is the brain of the roads.
    In U.S. cities, like Dallas, we have bollards to keep people from driving their car onto bicycle paths. Also, they are used as barriers on former car driving streets that are now pedestrian only. Don't need someone making a mistake and just drive into a walking area. A lot of the times they are painted a neutral color as not to disturb the aesthetic of the landscape. I've known they were called bollards since I was 25 years old. But probably because they are used wherever I have lived.
    I'm not sure about Netherlands, but in Germany they have cameras on roads to give tickets for those who are speeding. Less police presence but still a way to enforce the speed zones.

    • @LarsvanderHeide
      @LarsvanderHeide 3 місяці тому

      We Dutch have those cameras too, we invented them! 😅

  • @johansmith2840
    @johansmith2840 Місяць тому

    they were locking off the path, sort of keystone

  • @ianlugies
    @ianlugies 9 місяців тому

    Copenhagen as a bike city is really bad

  • @buildthelanes
    @buildthelanes 8 місяців тому

    Cool video!

  • @arddenouter4553
    @arddenouter4553 8 місяців тому

    ua-cam.com/video/hXfgoEuXNlI/v-deo.html - a bit windy

  • @remconoordermeer7015
    @remconoordermeer7015 9 місяців тому +1

    Happy New Year Charlie! 🥂
    Well thought out, intuitive road designs that are consistent throughout the country means you need less regulations because folks know intuitively what to do, where to be etc… Red asphalt? Oh, that’s a bike lane. Are you inside city limits? A car needs to defer to bikes, accentuated by the “shark teeth” at crossings. Outside city limits, it’s usually the other way around. Logical as higher speed limits give cars less reaction time. In addition, on those roads with higher speeds, the “slow traffic” is physically separated from high speed traffic, for instance by using barriers.

    In addition, the very design of the road shows what kind of road you’re on… so you don’t even need traffic signs to know the speed limit, for instance (the traffic signs are still there, of course). A 30kph road will typically have speed bumps or other speed restrictive measures. It also communicates that you’re likely in a city centre or residential area. You also see that same consistent design with 50, 60, 80 or 100+ kph roads.
    Basically doing this gives all road users a general idea of where they are and what they can expect to be their rights or obligations. Quite nifty, actually.

    • @kailahmann1823
      @kailahmann1823 9 місяців тому +1

      The all important rule: Speed limits aren't set by signs. They are set by the design.
      Good example how not to do this from Hamburg: The eastern end of Hasselbrookstraße is now a 30 zone, but the first 100 m haven't been redesigned yet. So drivers don't slow down at the sign. They slow down at the design change.

    • @remconoordermeer7015
      @remconoordermeer7015 9 місяців тому +1

      @@kailahmann1823 Exactly this. And by consistently applying those designs techniques, you create a clear, logical, “clean” infrastructure. And thus safer.

  • @therealdutchidiot
    @therealdutchidiot 9 місяців тому +2

    For me personally, I would've loved seeing your thoughts on the diffrences. The other day I was watching a German react to the same video (in German, so I'm not at all fluent), but he went deep into it, stating how German law treats traffic, and how regulations are at the forefront of everything ensuring they just put up signs and expect obedience.
    That's not how the Dutch traffic system works, and it hasn't worked like that in decades at this point.
    Another great video by the same channel that goes a little deeper into the same subject, but focussing more on bicycle streets is this one: ua-cam.com/video/qfDqknSoJDY/v-deo.html
    Not saying you should react to it, watch it in private for all I care. Amy has explored the concept before on her channel, though it never got into the weeds.

    • @buildthelanes
      @buildthelanes 8 місяців тому

      Can you send me this reaction video? Im curious

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot 8 місяців тому

      @@buildthelanes ua-cam.com/video/wNygUn2TsP4/v-deo.html
      Sidenote: while I'm not fluent, I can understand about 90-95% of what Germans are saying, I just can't confidently form a single sentence outside of "das strimmt". Knowing your history, I'm sure youd fare better.

    • @ingridb1524
      @ingridb1524 8 місяців тому

      You should watch “Safer roads for all” from UA-cam channel “building a better bend”. It’s a presentation from a Dutch urban planner on how they designed the roads in a city called Nijmegen and how they basically not just say “this is the law” but build it in a way that naturally adjusts the behavior. If you find this topic interesting, I can guarantee you’re going to find that presentation really interesting. It’s a long one though.

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot 8 місяців тому

      @@ingridb1524 It's an interesting presentation for sure, once you get Nijmegen out of the equation. Their infra isn't good by any means, and it's only getting worse. The city is full of infrastructure that's applied in the wrong context.

  • @gerbentvandeveen
    @gerbentvandeveen 9 місяців тому

    It's something you might not want to do at all in 2024. But it's an idea.? A P26 Europe (package) Engwe? I also have one myself. And it is highly recommended and an idea.

  • @TheJolanda01
    @TheJolanda01 9 місяців тому

    Happy new year Charlie

  • @deheermailmum5036
    @deheermailmum5036 9 місяців тому

    polder was ok, politiek sounds like poly teak

  • @JustRoharas
    @JustRoharas 8 місяців тому

    At 03:43 you mention that you guess we have bike paths that connect most of the Netherlands together and thats actually more correct as even I as a dutch expected it to be. I fiddled around a bit in google maps and went to see how true it was. For my first route I opened google maps and I just checked a random spot in Amersfoort city's center to a random spot in the center of Amsterdam. The distance between those places was 49.9km and once you get out of the center its pretty much a straight road by car until you reach the edges of Amsterdam's city center. That ride would take about 45min. Now with the bicycle you take different route as you can't just go cycling over a highway but surprisingly the route runs quite close along the same lines and is only 51.1km, so thats only a 200 meters detour technically as you won't have to worry about speed limits or traffic congestion's etc on bikes. It would take you on average 2h and 41min. The time on bike actually surprised me in a positive way as it's "only" about 4 times as long as by car while normally you'd go around 15km/h on a bike and 100km/h on the highway. I've also done a route all across the country from 1 random place in the northwest corner of NL (ursum) to a random place in the north bordering Germany (close to Hengelo) Here the car route goes around a big lake (technicly part of the sea) but the bike route goes across a road/bride like thing that crosses the lake and hase a bike/pedestrian path. In this case the car route is acually longer with its 195km vs the 188km by bike and again in this case, the bicycle ride with it's 10 hours would be a bit more than 4 times the time you'd need by car which was listed as 2h 15min. Just randomly clicking some places really took my by surprise about how well you can get from anywhere to anywhere by basically any means AND can always be done in a safe way where you won't have to worry about being ran over by a car. Public transport is great too but there it does depend a little on where you are unlike with bicycle or car.
    To awnser another question at around the 10min mark. The SWOV shows statistics and in that frame they showed the "ernstige verkeersongevallen" (Severe traffic accidents) are rising and you mentioned you thought they were going down. At the beginning of the video they did show a downwards graph but that was for fatalities and those are indeed going down. So while the number of deaths is going down, the number of seriously injured people or damaged property is going up. This has quite a lot of causes but a big one is just that it's A LOT busier on the roads as what it was 20 years ago. I also dare say that a portion of what would formerly be have been fatalities are now part of the severe category due to safety improvements that at least worked in preventing death but not injury. Another big factor in more severe injuries that has been in the news recently is that "electric bikes" are taking a big flight in popularity. The electric bikes can go quite fast and many people just jet by at like 25 or 30km/h which is a lot faster as a conventional bike. Going twice as fast also means more severe injuries when you fall but people are not really taking that seriously (yet)

  • @JulesStoop
    @JulesStoop 8 місяців тому

    15:53 Your first guess was correct: the camera is driving on the A12 freeway towards the skyline of central The Hague. But mentioning Rotterdam wasn’t crazy at all: that city indeed has more tall buildings, taller buildings and a larger overall skyline. I believe it’s fair to rank Rotterdam’s skyline sixth in the EU+GB (after London, Frankfurt, Paris, Madrid and Warsaw).

  • @kevartje1295
    @kevartje1295 9 місяців тому

    You got confused because he pronounced the CROW as you would in Dutch (Say-er-oh-way) but SWOV in the way you would pronounce it in English (es- doubleyou-oh-vee)

  • @allws9683
    @allws9683 8 місяців тому

    20:30 To the west of the city of UTrecht there was a plan to widen the important north-south highway A2. Alongside there is a massive suburb/new town Leidsche Rijn. For noise en pollution reasons the widening could only progress when a section would get a covering decking for 1-2 km for these environmental guidelines.
    The initial budget of the Leidsche Rijntunnel was €116mln , but eventually cost a whopping €1 billion ! Alongside the deck there was a new neigbourhood built on former industrial land between the highway and large canal.

  • @renekuipers4563
    @renekuipers4563 8 місяців тому

    Charlu loves Dutch fireworks ...An Belgium beer.an coffee whit a sigar ..We love you.

  • @gerbentvandeveen
    @gerbentvandeveen 9 місяців тому

    Ik heb al in 1992. @spakenburg naar Burgh-Haamstede gedaan over het fietspad. Oke, met een Zundapp KS50 /140 KM/H. 230 Kilometer.

  • @ingridb1524
    @ingridb1524 8 місяців тому

    There is a presentation by a Dutch urban planner who was invited to explain about Dutch road design in a town called Bend in America. The video is called “Safer streets for all” by the UA-cam channel Building a better Bend.
    I’m Dutch, but I was completely fascinated by this presentation. The examples are from the city Nijmegen. And he explains the changes made to the city and why. I lived in that city when those changes where made and I was totally fascinated by the reasoning behind it.
    It’s not your typical UA-cam video. But its super interesting.

  • @Jila_Tana
    @Jila_Tana 9 місяців тому

    Mister Vest, a reaction to a video, could contain an extensive reaction block and not be limited to a few Oh's and Ah's.
    Now it often is you watching a video and the moment that video ends, your video ends.
    There is no reflection at the end.
    I miss such.

  • @oskar6747
    @oskar6747 9 місяців тому

    1:01 To me that just looks like bad design. If I were riding a box bike I would just use the street instead. Those yellow bollards are so close I would be more scared of them instead of cars. Why are cycle lanes always so narrow that it is scary when there is oncoming traffic...

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot 8 місяців тому

      It's the peak of North American design, about 50 years behind the rest of the world.

    • @oskar6747
      @oskar6747 8 місяців тому

      @@therealdutchidiot it's about the same in Helsinki. Now they make only one way cycle lanes, but I think it would be better to make at least 95% of the streets in downtown cycle streets where bikes are allowed to be in the center of the lane and cars are not allowed to overtake.

  • @EVERTSMID
    @EVERTSMID 8 місяців тому

    Politike🤣🤣✌️❤️

  • @Needlestitch
    @Needlestitch 9 місяців тому

    Hi, Happy New Year! You mentioned The Hague, maybe. You can leave out the _maybe_ , there.

  • @jeroenrat6289
    @jeroenrat6289 8 місяців тому

    21:50 these white bricks are put in, after the work is done, to mark a parking spot.
    Park between the dotted lines.

  • @silv3rlinE
    @silv3rlinE 9 місяців тому

    happy newyear charlie and family a healthy and loving 2024

  • @dawatcherz
    @dawatcherz 9 місяців тому

    9th place, but also the most densely populated, so more traffic in a smaller area too.

  • @omervandenbelt
    @omervandenbelt 9 місяців тому

    1) That cool looking bike is quit heay to ride.
    2) There is footage is the video that isn't from The Netherlands.
    The Dutch way to pronounce the word 'politiek' is as follows. Po as in pole. Li as in lee. tiek as in teek. Thus, Po-lee-teek.

    • @TheXshot
      @TheXshot 9 місяців тому

      If you listen to the voice over, you'll realize that there's a reason there's footage from other countries...

  • @peterjanssen2105
    @peterjanssen2105 9 місяців тому

    all the best wishes and good health for 2024

  • @FormattedByWeitweejen2024
    @FormattedByWeitweejen2024 9 місяців тому

    Happy New Year Charlie

  • @ericdenissen1229
    @ericdenissen1229 9 місяців тому

    happy new year charlie

  • @grouloulle
    @grouloulle 9 місяців тому

    Bonne Année.

  • @yousnoerd
    @yousnoerd 9 місяців тому

    Here's a really cool video from a really cool channel mostly centered around crazy car and engineering stuff:
    "When Johnny comes marching home again on church organ" (Mastermilo)
    I know you'll love the video and a lot of other stuff on the channel. Its very dutch, although they're very close to the belgian border.
    There are some really cool and crazy contraptions you might want to have a look at, really unique!

  • @madjack7777
    @madjack7777 9 місяців тому

    Actually, it is rather hard to sue a civil servant. Also, it is hard to sue a government. Those two are in legal sense both the same entity and a different entity. It is actually quite a big problem. This is how de toeslagenaffaire happend, lack of accountability and consequences for the responsibel civil servants/government. That is why we dont sue a lot here. Also, you can be happy if you actually make a net gain in a law suit.

  • @gerardcote8391
    @gerardcote8391 9 місяців тому

    but these numbers are irrelevant.
    why don't they count road deaths per 1,000,000 passenger miles. or some similar thing.
    US 2021 most recent year data available
    US Trafick deaths = 0.075 deaths per "billion" passenger miles.
    which is 0.000075 deaths per million passenger miles.
    Hrad to get data from international
    but 2019 Denmark (safe road example mentioned in video) = 3.9 deaths per billion km ( 1 km = 0.621 miles > 1.609 km per mile) = 2.43 deaths per billion passenger miles
    which is 32.32 times the death rate of the US.
    So explain to me why we should copy Europe which should by their numbers be roughly the same as Denmark even giving a generous cut say the safest in Europe is 1/3 of Denmark, would still be 10 times that of the USA.
    I would rather drive on safely US roads than drive the EU Death Traps.

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot 8 місяців тому +1

      Because we don't measure road deaths by passenger miles, or by population. We scale by population density. This alone means the US has the deadliest roads in the world.

    • @gerardcote8391
      @gerardcote8391 8 місяців тому

      @@therealdutchidiot The most densely populated cities in the world are Hong Kong, Singapore, Alexandria Egypt, and Tokyo, with way less traffic deaths.
      You can't use population density as a measure of auto related deaths.
      1/3rd of all traffic fatalities in the US are related to America's terrible weather, not people's driving. Blizzards, black ice on road, torrential rains, and poor visibility.

  • @gerbentvandeveen
    @gerbentvandeveen 9 місяців тому

    @engwe