For someone who just upgraded from the E-M10 MarkII to the E-M5 Mark III this video is gold. Thank you so much for sharing Robin. I just love the E-M5 I really feel a great imporvement in all aspects, and not only usability or funcionality but also image quality. The only thing I really regret from my E-M5 mII (and did not expect!) is the tilt screen!! The fully articulated flip screen could be considered as an upgrade, but I soon realised that the good old flip screen was much more discreet and fast to use, specially in street photography.
You mak terrific videos, Robin, and your candour in occasionally pointing out things that you doin't like actually makes you an even better Olympus ambassador by maintaining credibility and trust. Olympus is for photographers!
Thanks Robin. Been considering making the switch from APS-C to m4/3, and your videos have been most helpful in understanding the Olympus system. Plus your enthusiasm for photography at large is inspiring. For a future video, please consider doing a deeper dive into the high resolution shot mode for the em5 mk iii. This feature really intrigues me and as I consider the switch to m4/3, would like to better understand the large print capabilities here. Thanks.
I bought a E-M1 mk1 considering its first generation it's impressive. I shot a festival with it. Flawless and the buffer OMG 47 photos before it begins to buffer.
Hi Robin, many thanks for the interesting observations in this video. I have been shooting Olympus M4/3 since 2012 and completely abandoned my Canon gear as a consequence. I have read many of your excellent reviews in the past but never joined your UA-cam channel until today. While it's disappointing that m4/3 sensor technology (in particular resolution) hasn't advanced in the last years while the APS-C competition made great strides, I recently bit the bullet and got myself the E-M5 iii. There's one detail in the E-M5 iii that almost drove me crazy until I discovered it wasn't a bug but actually an (undocumented) feature (which I had to figure out by myself; I didn't find the solution when googling for it). When reviewing pictures, after zooming in the OK button doesn't get you back to the zoomed out view. All OK does (also in the info button's "toggle view") is centering the green zoom box on faces. I was quite annoyed by this because this was different from my earlier Olympus cameras and I want to be able to leave zoom mode with the press of just one button. Well, I eventually discovered it is possible: instead of pressing the OK button, you just have to hold it. You can discover this if you find and go through the menu where you can set the delays for "button hold" operations, but I for one would normally not have bothered with this menu. This dual use of the OK button in review mode is actually a nice feature. I just wish Olympus would have advertised it somehow. I am sure I am not the only one who was irritated by this.
Thanks Robin for great content from a really experienced real world user. One improvement I cant wait to try is the em1-ii like 1-2switch+AEL button that I LOVE on my em1-ii & miss soooo much on my em5-ii. I set it for back button focus & to switch quickly from SF to CF. On the em5-ii the switch+button is just too small, too fidly to switch and too close to the EVF eyepad (& such a pleasure to use on the em1-ii). I'll get the em5-iii when available just for that! (well & for the phase detect AF, light weight, small size, 20mb sensor, stabilization, improved DOF...holly Christ, I sound like an Oly amdassador:-) All the best from Barcelona Spain sir.
Thanks for these E-M5 Mk III videos Robin. I'm considering either this or the older E-M1 Mk II with the firmware updates. The E-M1 is available online in the UK with the 14-42 EZ ED for just £955! Looking forward to getting my hands on the III when it goes on sale to compare side by side.
Yes, the best way to decide which works for you is to have them in your hands. We can read and watch all the reviews online but the camera choice is a very personal one.
This gets more and more interesting! But that it took Olympus so long to get rid of much of the stupid things they held to so long, but better late than never! A good list, but I have to say that I actually like the "Live Control" system - that was already turned off on my Pen F (and now I know how to get it back!). This Anti-Shock thing I never understood that it was not set by default (or that it was a "global" setting instead of a special shooting mode, cluttering up the respective menu).
For larger and heavier cameras like E-M1 Mark II and E-M1X the vibration can be easily dampened. The decision to go lighter and smaller on E-M5 Mark III amplifies the shutter shock issue. Hence the need to have it automated. I've used the normal shutter on other Olympus cameras and rarely encounter shutter shock.
@@robinwong Well, I had this issue constantly with the E-M5II when shutter speeds were in the range of 1/30 to 1/90 of a second, same with my Pen F! At these shutter speeds, IBIS seems to not work properly (I guess that it has not enough time to effectively counter-move the sensor, while it has no trouble at all for lower shutter speeds, were I get sharper results). Lightweight cameras are a problem in ways I would not have imagined beforehand … ;-)
IMPORTANT CORRECTION (Updated 16 November 2019): There is Anti-Shock setting in E-M5 Mark III but it is disabled by default and deeply hidden in the menu. To enable Anti-Shock for E-M5 Mark III, go to: Menu -- Gear Tab -- D1 -- Burst/Timer Icons Settings -- CHECK the Anti-Shock option. The error is in the video from 4.00 mark. The error has been corrected in the corresponding blog article. Thanks for pointing out, Michael Schuster.
It means antishock is not automatically activated and not even able to be activated by default (without enabling it in the menu)? But it is bad (not improvement, but worse than it was) .. because (default) mechanical shutter can cause vibration :-(
The panorama setting should also be the same as that of the Mark IV. Stitching right into the camera. No more having to do afterwards in an editing program
SCP was the default on my E-M5 II, I'm surprised it wasn't on the E-M10 II which came out later IIRC... The EFC was always auto disabled after 1/320 even if it wasn't explicitly stated so they merely moved the option to turn it on. I do think that putting their Live/Composite modes directly on the dial seems particularly handy, always hated scrolling thru all shutter speeds to get there and it wasn't particularly intuitive the first time you go looking for said modes.
Thanks Robin for your useful tips and explanations. I wonder why nobody seems to use the 14-42mm pancake lens for the E-M5. Is it not good enough? To me it looks perfect on the small body.
i bought the mk3 as an upgrade to my mk1 which died on me. Realised that Olympus took away the tethered shooting feature for mk3! they had it for mk 2. I feel this is one giant step back.
@@robinwong Thanks Robin, I do own the E-M1 ii and i think its the most underrated camera of any brand. I live in Australia and it can be picked up for about $50 cheaper than a backordered E-M5 iii.....
Hello, thanks for the video! Can you talk about the LIVE Comosite mode? It is very interesting how to shoot people using this mode, what settings. Thank you, Regards Valery.
It isn't easy to do a video about Live Composite as I need to carry two tripods (one on the camera doing live composite and another to record it in action). But thanks for the suggestion I shall figure out how to make it work
@@robinwong Thank you for paying attention to my comment. No one has yet done a detailed video about the Live Composit at Olympus. How to use it correctly, what settings on the camera to use, how to use the flash in this mode. I tried - I can’t. I would appreciate it if you succeed. And if at all, take the time. All the best to you!
Thanks Robin, this was a very informative video. I never understood why Olympus didn't enable some of their most useful and innovative features by default. Since you didn't show it in the video, is the SCP also available in video mode, or does the camera go back to the old system?
Nice video..I have a question...if using the lens from my older E520 with an electronic adapter...are the lens suppose to auto focus while in movie mode...I have a EM-5
Thank you Robin Wong - I love your enthusiastic way of explaining specification stuff! I have a question in case of video. I want to do mobile live video in a church because of fantastic IBIS capability of Olympus OMD cameras. Can I do video live streaming with wifi with olympus omd 5 mark3?
I have a question.. is AF micro adjustment necessary with this camera? I've always been unclear about whether mirrorless cameras that use phase detect need AF micro adjustment or not. Thanks.
These are great updates, but it won't compensate for the loss of the metal body. That all plastic body and lower build quality on this new EM5 is very disappointing.
as far as the live SCP, I don't remember having to turn that on and I've never seen that bad version of the menu.. could they have changed the default setting in one of the firmware updates? maybe my memory is just failing me though!
I have used every single Olympus camera since E-M5 original. They all acted the same way. The Live Super Control panel is turned off by default. Except for E-M1X.
Robin Wong I got my 1 Mark 2, just this year and SCP worked out of the box. I updated to fm 3 a week after getting it. I did need to activate it on previous OMD’ s I have.
Thanks Robin. Although I do not own an Olympus EM camera, I like to keep up to date with them, as one day I will purchase one... hopefully! Your videos are an excellent source of information.
ua-cam.com/video/a1mgJj8Z9PU/v-deo.html when you sigh I also feel the same way after turning the shutter speed dial so many times just to reach the bulb at the end...
BEWARE: There is a big mistake in the Video! The AntiShock Setting ist not automaticly turned on in the E_M5 III. They actually hid this Setting in the SuperControlPanel, to show this Setting in the SCP you have to go to menu D1 and enable it at the Shutter-Settings (between: "Picture Mode Settings" and "Multi Function Settings" Please let everyone know about this, because ist improves sharpness a lot at the certain shitter speeds! Thanks.
These are very useful improvements that go unnoticed by (most) reviewers but are important for the real user. Thanks
Glad you found the video useful. These are smaller things that can be easily missed, especially if the reviews were rushed.
For someone who just upgraded from the E-M10 MarkII to the E-M5 Mark III this video is gold. Thank you so much for sharing Robin. I just love the E-M5 I really feel a great imporvement in all aspects, and not only usability or funcionality but also image quality. The only thing I really regret from my E-M5 mII (and did not expect!) is the tilt screen!! The fully articulated flip screen could be considered as an upgrade, but I soon realised that the good old flip screen was much more discreet and fast to use, specially in street photography.
You mak terrific videos, Robin, and your candour in occasionally pointing out things that you doin't like actually makes you an even better Olympus ambassador by maintaining credibility and trust. Olympus is for photographers!
I prefer the buttons as "Fn #" than a simbol of a function that doesn't is. Eg. a record button that activates the Manual Focusing.
Thanks Robin. Been considering making the switch from APS-C to m4/3, and your videos have been most helpful in understanding the Olympus system. Plus your enthusiasm for photography at large is inspiring.
For a future video, please consider doing a deeper dive into the high resolution shot mode for the em5 mk iii. This feature really intrigues me and as I consider the switch to m4/3, would like to better understand the large print capabilities here. Thanks.
Thanks for the kind words. I do have the High Res Mode in the list of videos to make. Thanks for the suggestion.
I bought a E-M1 mk1 considering its first generation it's impressive. I shot a festival with it. Flawless and the buffer OMG 47 photos before it begins to buffer.
Hi Robin, many thanks for the interesting observations in this video. I have been shooting Olympus M4/3 since 2012 and completely abandoned my Canon gear as a consequence. I have read many of your excellent reviews in the past but never joined your UA-cam channel until today. While it's disappointing that m4/3 sensor technology (in particular resolution) hasn't advanced in the last years while the APS-C competition made great strides, I recently bit the bullet and got myself the E-M5 iii.
There's one detail in the E-M5 iii that almost drove me crazy until I discovered it wasn't a bug but actually an (undocumented) feature (which I had to figure out by myself; I didn't find the solution when googling for it). When reviewing pictures, after zooming in the OK button doesn't get you back to the zoomed out view. All OK does (also in the info button's "toggle view") is centering the green zoom box on faces. I was quite annoyed by this because this was different from my earlier Olympus cameras and I want to be able to leave zoom mode with the press of just one button.
Well, I eventually discovered it is possible: instead of pressing the OK button, you just have to hold it. You can discover this if you find and go through the menu where you can set the delays for "button hold" operations, but I for one would normally not have bothered with this menu. This dual use of the OK button in review mode is actually a nice feature. I just wish Olympus would have advertised it somehow. I am sure I am not the only one who was irritated by this.
All useful improvements. Thanks for sharing.
No worries, my pleasure doing the video!
Thanks Robin for great content from a really experienced real world user. One improvement I cant wait to try is the em1-ii like 1-2switch+AEL button that I LOVE on my em1-ii & miss soooo much on my em5-ii. I set it for back button focus & to switch quickly from SF to CF. On the em5-ii the switch+button is just too small, too fidly to switch and too close to the EVF eyepad (& such a pleasure to use on the em1-ii). I'll get the em5-iii when available just for that! (well & for the phase detect AF, light weight, small size, 20mb sensor, stabilization, improved DOF...holly Christ, I sound like an Oly amdassador:-) All the best from Barcelona Spain sir.
Thanks for these E-M5 Mk III videos Robin. I'm considering either this or the older E-M1 Mk II with the firmware updates. The E-M1 is available online in the UK with the 14-42 EZ ED for just £955! Looking forward to getting my hands on the III when it goes on sale to compare side by side.
Yes, the best way to decide which works for you is to have them in your hands. We can read and watch all the reviews online but the camera choice is a very personal one.
This gets more and more interesting! But that it took Olympus so long to get rid of much of the stupid things they held to so long, but better late than never! A good list, but I have to say that I actually like the "Live Control" system - that was already turned off on my Pen F (and now I know how to get it back!). This Anti-Shock thing I never understood that it was not set by default (or that it was a "global" setting instead of a special shooting mode, cluttering up the respective menu).
For larger and heavier cameras like E-M1 Mark II and E-M1X the vibration can be easily dampened. The decision to go lighter and smaller on E-M5 Mark III amplifies the shutter shock issue. Hence the need to have it automated. I've used the normal shutter on other Olympus cameras and rarely encounter shutter shock.
@@robinwong Well, I had this issue constantly with the E-M5II when shutter speeds were in the range of 1/30 to 1/90 of a second, same with my Pen F! At these shutter speeds, IBIS seems to not work properly (I guess that it has not enough time to effectively counter-move the sensor, while it has no trouble at all for lower shutter speeds, were I get sharper results). Lightweight cameras are a problem in ways I would not have imagined beforehand … ;-)
IMPORTANT CORRECTION
(Updated 16 November 2019): There is Anti-Shock setting in E-M5 Mark III but it is disabled by default and deeply hidden in the menu. To enable Anti-Shock for E-M5 Mark III, go to:
Menu -- Gear Tab -- D1 -- Burst/Timer Icons Settings -- CHECK the Anti-Shock option.
The error is in the video from 4.00 mark. The error has been corrected in the corresponding blog article.
Thanks for pointing out, Michael Schuster.
It means antishock is not automatically activated and not even able to be activated by default (without enabling it in the menu)?
But it is bad (not improvement, but worse than it was) .. because (default) mechanical shutter can cause vibration :-(
Thanks Robin, these changes do make sense.
Indeed they make sense!
Thanks, Robin. All improvements are very much appreciated. I am looking forward to the III, myself.
Awesome! I am sure you will love the camera.
Thank you Robin for your insight. I do hope some of these can be added to the em-Mkll body as I like the consistency olympus offers firmware update
I'm hoping the same too.
The panorama setting should also be the same as that of the Mark IV. Stitching right into the camera. No more having to do afterwards in an editing program
SCP was the default on my E-M5 II, I'm surprised it wasn't on the E-M10 II which came out later IIRC... The EFC was always auto disabled after 1/320 even if it wasn't explicitly stated so they merely moved the option to turn it on.
I do think that putting their Live/Composite modes directly on the dial seems particularly handy, always hated scrolling thru all shutter speeds to get there and it wasn't particularly intuitive the first time you go looking for said modes.
Thank you for an excellent presentation Robin
Thanks Robin for your useful tips and explanations. I wonder why nobody seems to use the 14-42mm pancake lens for the E-M5. Is it not good enough? To me it looks perfect on the small body.
i bought the mk3 as an upgrade to my mk1 which died on me. Realised that Olympus took away the tethered shooting feature for mk3! they had it for mk 2. I feel this is one giant step back.
There is something you missed, in movie mode you can have a shutter of 1/48 which is perfect for filming.
Glad I found your channel, Robin. Have watched two of your videos and enjoyed both of them!
a t-shirt with big letters LSF... would look nice...
I am large and I am super fine...
OMG go make it! I buy from you. Can I pre-order? Size XL, black and grey color please
Great stuff Robin but still not convinced that this is better value than E-M1 ii.
Well, if you think the E-M1 Mark II is a better fit for you, go for it, if you have not owned one.
@@robinwong Thanks Robin, I do own the E-M1 ii and i think its the most underrated camera of any brand. I live in Australia and it can be picked up for about $50 cheaper than a backordered E-M5 iii.....
Hello, thanks for the video! Can you talk about the LIVE Comosite mode? It is very interesting how to shoot people using this mode, what settings. Thank you, Regards Valery.
It isn't easy to do a video about Live Composite as I need to carry two tripods (one on the camera doing live composite and another to record it in action). But thanks for the suggestion I shall figure out how to make it work
@@robinwong Thank you for paying attention to my comment. No one has yet done a detailed video about the Live Composit at Olympus. How to use it correctly, what settings on the camera to use, how to use the flash in this mode. I tried - I can’t. I would appreciate it if you succeed. And if at all, take the time. All the best to you!
@@TheVnat Peter Forsgard has several videos on UA-cam on using Live Composite
A very informative and well made video once again. Thank you, Robin!
Great findings Robin, cheers!
Thanks, and wow you are fast! It only has been a few minutes since the video was live.
Robin Wong the magic of notifications 😌
Great information. Looking forward to getting my Mark lll.
You should be getting it in a few days!
Thanks Robin, this was a very informative video. I never understood why Olympus didn't enable some of their most useful and innovative features by default. Since you didn't show it in the video, is the SCP also available in video mode, or does the camera go back to the old system?
You can access the super control panel directly during video shooting. Press the info button.
Great video Robin! Right now in Australia, a new E-M1 II is $400 cheaper than E-M5 III. What's the point of E-M5 III then? :(
So buy the E-M1 Mark II, what is the issue here?
I wish they had implemented the battery status indicator from the EM1 II. With 3 bars only even the best camera reviewer ends up with a empty battery.
4 bars. It was going empty because I wanted to kill it. I needed a drained battery to test something. That is a topic for another video.
Nice video..I have a question...if using the lens from my older E520 with an electronic adapter...are the lens suppose to auto focus while in movie mode...I have a EM-5
Does enabling the electronic first curtain shutter affect the use of flash?
Not really. Flash works perfectly fine with Anti-Shock.
@@robinwong thanks
Thank you Robin Wong - I love your enthusiastic way of explaining specification stuff! I have a question in case of video. I want to do mobile live video in a church because of fantastic IBIS capability of Olympus OMD cameras. Can I do video live streaming with wifi with olympus omd 5 mark3?
I don't think there is any camera that can do that at the moment. Makes us wonder why the camera technology is so slow to catch up.
Robin Wong Thank you very much for quick answer!!
Great video as always Robin. What lens is on the em5? Is that the 17mm 1.8?
Thanks, and yes, that was a 17mm F1.8 on E-M5 Mark III
What I still don't figure out on the E-M5 Mark III is the touch screen capability. Is it possible to navigate touch screen and change settings ?
1/320th of a second "or less":
the word "less" here is misleading imho. does it mean 'shorter' or does it mean 'longer'?
Hi Robin what's are the biggest difference between the E-M5 III and the PEN F?
I have a question.. is AF micro adjustment necessary with this camera? I've always been unclear about whether mirrorless cameras that use phase detect need AF micro adjustment or not. Thanks.
I think you’re Wong about the electronic shutter. 🤣
Is that true that Olympus camera business will be shut down?
We need MyMenu on every post E-M1X camera!
New E-M1 Mark II firmware can playback photo while writing to SDCard, can E-M5 Mark III do the same?
These are great updates, but it won't compensate for the loss of the metal body. That all plastic body and lower build quality on this new EM5 is very disappointing.
Can’t see the art filter, is this still available in mk3 ?
as far as the live SCP, I don't remember having to turn that on and I've never seen that bad version of the menu.. could they have changed the default setting in one of the firmware updates? maybe my memory is just failing me though!
i think it only applies to e-m10
I have used every single Olympus camera since E-M5 original. They all acted the same way. The Live Super Control panel is turned off by default. Except for E-M1X.
Robin Wong I got my 1 Mark 2, just this year and SCP worked out of the box. I updated to fm 3 a week after getting it. I did need to activate it on previous OMD’ s I have.
Robin, please, do you know the sensor readout time of EM5-3 ? Is it like EM1 = 1/60 sec ? Or slower ?
Hi... when u say the Live View Boost OFF in M mode by default. But can it be turned ON if I wanted to? This is helpful when we use strobe underwater.
Oh yes you can. Not an issue, same way you turn it off you can turn it on.
Thanks Robin. Although I do not own an Olympus EM camera, I like to keep up to date with them, as one day I will purchase one... hopefully!
Your videos are an excellent source of information.
Thanks for the kind words, appreciate that you find it useful.
What is the highest AUTO ISO you can set on this new camera?
6400 cap. Same with E-M1 Mark II and E-M1X.
Brilliant 👍🏼
Cheers!
ua-cam.com/video/a1mgJj8Z9PU/v-deo.html
when you sigh I also feel the same way after turning the shutter speed dial so many times just to reach the bulb at the end...
Finally they made it easier to get to those settings.
I have problem with this camera! The speaker of this cámara es noise! Horrible! I have 25 days wiith this cámera 🤦🏻♂️ olympus em5
Robin
Lovely camera, what about all these rumors about closing imaging department in next few months ? 12/11/2019 , Love Olympus
They say olympus is going out of business in eight months. Lol
by who? by other camera manufacturers? lol
Thanks Robin. What about C mode? Is there only one C setting? I need at least three with quick access like e.g. on Panasonic GM5.
Yes, this is what I want to know.
Yes, only one C setting.
@@robinwong And how hard is it to call up one of the others?
Maybe mysets could be assigned to mode dial like this: homepages.ihug.com.au/~parsog/olyepl1/52-epl5-mymodes.html
Any thoughts about the rumors that Olympus camera business will be shutting down soon coz I'm planning to buy the new omd em 5 mark III
Nah, just rumors.
Still not gonna buy it. I will save a bit for an E-M1 mk2. 😂📷
🙏👌👍
🎩👍👍👍
BEWARE: There is a big mistake in the Video!
The AntiShock Setting ist not automaticly turned on in the E_M5 III. They actually hid this Setting in the SuperControlPanel, to show this Setting in the SCP you have to go to menu D1 and enable it at the Shutter-Settings (between: "Picture Mode Settings" and "Multi Function Settings"
Please let everyone know about this, because ist improves sharpness a lot at the certain shitter speeds!
Thanks.