Don’t matter what u race as long as u race it. These folks take it to the next level! Mopeds going 150+, less than 100 kg and tyres thinner than straws. I love it!!!
I miss the full GP events, with 50cc, 80cc, 125cc, 250cc and 500cc classes. All proper two stroke powered GP bikes. Racing was much more accessible, less expensive and generally a healthier sport.
@@Big1_ no idea what you’re talking about mate but why wouldn’t you wanna try a small sub 100kg bike going 150 kph and doing 18.000rpm. You must’ve experienced a lot in your life to not be excited about that. Im not saying it’s better than a Moto GP bike. I just think those tiny bikes are awesome.
@@matthiaseb2928 I had 50cm3 bikes capable of 13.000 rpm (to much noise and speedo doesn´t move), 125 bikes, 400 bandit and now 1100. I prefer big engines instead of bored slow bikes with 0% adrenaline rush.
Impressionnant ..la puissance de ces 50 cm3 ,nos flandria avec 5 chevaux , pourtant nous faisait rêver...belle époque c'était .. Merci pour cette vidéo.christian
a scooter has the power lost of the cvt! thats arround 30% a geard chain is at max 12%! this 50cc bikes are arround 15hp thats 12-13 on the wheel. your scooter has than max 10hp! 10 hp is goog for going 80-85 km/h or 50-52 miles/hour!
Wow - When I was tuning mopeds back in early seventies, Kreidler was king with the 210Km/h WR. I wasn't too keen on the 'grandpa' look though and went for a Puch, but a friend of mine had one that could do about 85Km/h - way more than my Puch's 70. Good thing, the Kreidler was more stealthy too :-) It truely was an amazing bike, but this i next level of course; 16000 rpm, phew....
My Hercules "K50 RL" "Kleinkraftrad" with no speed limit in the Bike-papper, runs 115-120Km/h it was for 40 years! I was 16 years it was the best time in my life! first time free to drive where ever i will go!
khm...kreidler killer from slovenia tomos dmGP with speed over 200,t kreidler sissies tried and got that bike banned with alot of connections no guts to race against it...forgot abot that haven't you or just refusing history facts
Since there was reference to world records, WR! Let's put the record straight! The world record for land speed still belongs to the Portuguese brand CASAL! 50cc, 2 stroke, 1 cyl. topping at 224km/h, back in 1981! There was also the GP versions. And most important the regular everyday bikes! For which they build rather decent machines. Being, I would dare to say the best of the 5 or 6 Portuguese brands! Some of those brands were based on the Sachs design! In fact one was called SIS "Sachs"! Clearly demonstrating it's affiliation! CASAL brand still exists. But as far as I know they're just the official Suzuki importer. The days of metallurgy and bikes production are long gone! Sole survivor nowadays is the brand AJP! That came up when ALL others were dying! In itself a feat of survival!
That would be totally anachronic and meaningless! "Real" 2 strokes are for all effects dead and buried! Under piles of legislation! The sole remnants are 50cc's strangled and choked to 45km/h! And pretty much no one invested a single dime on their development for more than 30 or 40 years! Most factories that existed in large numbers, are no more! So we're left over with the veteran classes, memories and not much more! ;-)
Great clip, 50's were phenomenal devices. One little thing though, how to change gear - don't clutch and then drop the throttle because youtube viewers gnash their teeth when you do, better to lightly preload the gear lever and quickly drop the throttle just enough to unload the drivetrain. 😉
@Quirin M. I know nothing about 50cc, but I checked for a random bike, the front tyre is 2,5 inch, so it's more than half the width of a 1000cc front tire, for a third of the weight
Dans ma jeunesse on avait avec mon frere une zundapp 50 cc mais boite 5 normalement c est des boîtes 4 et le vendredi soir a Vincennes on adorer ce tirait la bourre contre d autres zundapp et dans la ligne droite je me souviens avec quelques un on etait côté a côté mais des que Je voyait qu on était tout les 2 à font de 4 je passé la 5em et la tu voie les gars qui sont degouter parce que il te voie partir à la fin qu on y aller personne ne voulais ce tirait la bourre c était le bon temps les années 79 80
@@tomthehighlandexplorer8085 badass on 50cc! Used to do track days on my old rd125 and lucky to hit 90mph( 145kmph?) on a 3/4 mile back straight, just barely over stock engine. Good times. Always loved the lightweights and bodyenglish, rasping the rubber.
Me at the beginning of the video: Pfffft 50cc, slow but I'll watch anyway. Me at the end of the video: WOW! Those 50cc bikes are pretty damn fast!!! 93 mph is pretty quick for that size of engine!!
Inzwischen wäre es schön überhaupt mal wieder nach Assen zu fahren und Rennen zu schauen, egal was! Okay noch ein bisschen früh im Jahr, aber Scheiss Corona wird uns das alles noch versauen!! 😢
A friend of mine had a ZUNDAPP KS 50 : with a bigger carburetor and removing a stuff in the exhaust, he went at 110 km/h fingers in the nose ! Yeah, reminds me good ol'times...
Oh really? What zone did you expect?)) On a low-volume naturally aspirated engine, there are NO other ways to increase power and speed, except to increase its revs. Therefore, the maximum power will be exactly at the maximum speed. This bike simply cannot physically develop over 15500 rpm for a long time, this is its limit. The fact that his tachometer is marked up to 18000 does not mean anything. Up to 18,000, his revs jump up for a short time, when shifting gears without resetting the gas. If this dvigalel could develop 18000 for a long time, then, I assure you, the most effective revolutions would be exactly 18000. And nothing else.
@@Supercharger_Carb you have the Dyno chart or raced this bike? Mr Expert.. On many engines on Dyno and actual load the horsepower drops off after certain rpm is exceeded.. Maybe build and race a few hundred engines then comment kid..
Don’t matter what u race as long as u race it. These folks take it to the next level! Mopeds going 150+, less than 100 kg and tyres thinner than straws. I love it!!!
Absolutely. Imagine how hard this shot glass sized piston has to work.
I miss the full GP events, with 50cc, 80cc, 125cc, 250cc and 500cc classes. All proper two stroke powered GP bikes. Racing was much more accessible, less expensive and generally a healthier sport.
It's all BIG MONEY now. And that ruined GP.
Hengelo gld the Netherlands first weekend in september. Lot of 2 strokes
The first race I ever visited on the Assen circuit had 50cc, 125cc, 250cc, 350cc, 500cc and sidecar. Real value for your money.
Agreed. This was a cool clip to watch.
And 350cc.
16k rpm, dat is 266 toeren per seconden uit dat kleine 50cc motorblokje!! gekkenwerk
Grandi motori i piccoli 2 tempi del passato...
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇮🇹🖐️
I am old enough to remember when GP was 50,125,250,350,500 and sidecars! Good Fun!
Love the old days of the 2 stroke GP bikes.
Good Lord, I miss my Kreidler so much! Thanks for sharing.
Who else would love to have a go at this.
No one LOL maybe a kid would like to try it.
@@Big1_ WTF I’d love to try one of these
@@matthiaseb2928 Would you like to try a Cesna when you can fly with a F22? LOL
@@Big1_ no idea what you’re talking about mate but why wouldn’t you wanna try a small sub 100kg bike going 150 kph and doing 18.000rpm.
You must’ve experienced a lot in your life to not be excited about that.
Im not saying it’s better than a Moto GP bike. I just think those tiny bikes are awesome.
@@matthiaseb2928 I had 50cm3 bikes capable of 13.000 rpm (to much noise and speedo doesn´t move), 125 bikes, 400 bandit and now 1100. I prefer big engines instead of bored slow bikes with 0% adrenaline rush.
Impressionnant ..la puissance de ces 50 cm3 ,nos flandria avec 5 chevaux , pourtant nous faisait rêver...belle époque c'était ..
Merci pour cette vidéo.christian
Watching the Krober rev counter brought back memories. I used to race Yamaha AS1/3's but they only revved to 14000 mind you they were air cooled.
50cc doing 150kml.. 😳
Leaving it on longer straight line it would do 160kmh .look at the rpm counter
Or 93mph
for 50cc its crazy! my 30 year old 125cc goes 150 im 4 gear with 34hp
Crazy 2 stroke !!!
Not much indeed for a race bike, in the 90`s I had a stock 50cc Derbi Gpr and it does 110/120km/h
I saw 50cc Isle of Man TT in the early 1960s. Watching from Brandish my mate & I were really surprised how quick they came down from The Creg.
Mantap gak kalah sama motor 4 tak 150cc bahkan setara 250cc meskipun 50cc tapi 2 tak.
Grande emozione con questi piccoli motori che girano fortissimo.
OMG!! 50cc motorcycles running in 150 kmph !
😯
Never seen 50cc running so so fast, lol
U know why! Because two stroke
151 on a 50 is bloody amazing. Thats what my mate said when I jumped on a scooter as well but he meant I weigh 151kgs
a scooter has the power lost of the cvt! thats arround 30% a geard chain is at max 12%! this 50cc bikes are arround 15hp thats 12-13 on the wheel. your scooter has than max 10hp! 10 hp is goog for going 80-85 km/h or 50-52 miles/hour!
The GP bikes could do 205+
凄い50㏄で151㎞も出るなんて❕❕
Wow - When I was tuning mopeds back in early seventies, Kreidler was king with the 210Km/h WR. I wasn't too keen on the 'grandpa' look though and went for a Puch, but a friend of mine had one that could do about 85Km/h - way more than my Puch's 70. Good thing, the Kreidler was more stealthy too :-) It truely was an amazing bike, but this i next level of course; 16000 rpm, phew....
My Hercules "K50 RL" "Kleinkraftrad" with no speed limit in the Bike-papper, runs 115-120Km/h it was for 40 years! I was 16 years it was the best time in my life! first time free to drive where ever i will go!
khm...kreidler killer from slovenia tomos dmGP with speed over 200,t kreidler sissies tried and got that bike banned with alot of connections no guts to race against it...forgot abot that haven't you or just refusing history facts
Since there was reference to world records, WR! Let's put the record straight!
The world record for land speed still belongs to the Portuguese brand CASAL!
50cc, 2 stroke, 1 cyl. topping at 224km/h, back in 1981!
There was also the GP versions. And most important the regular everyday bikes! For which they build rather decent machines. Being, I would dare to say the best of the 5 or 6 Portuguese brands! Some of those brands were based on the Sachs design! In fact one was called SIS "Sachs"! Clearly demonstrating it's affiliation!
CASAL brand still exists. But as far as I know they're just the official Suzuki importer. The days of metallurgy and bikes production are long gone!
Sole survivor nowadays is the brand AJP! That came up when ALL others were dying! In itself a feat of survival!
I enjoy these 50cc two-strokes more than modern MotoGP bikes. The 50cc class should be brought back.
That would be totally anachronic and meaningless! "Real" 2 strokes are for all effects dead and buried! Under piles of legislation! The sole remnants are 50cc's strangled and choked to 45km/h! And pretty much no one invested a single dime on their development for more than 30 or 40 years! Most factories that existed in large numbers, are no more!
So we're left over with the veteran classes, memories and not much more! ;-)
@@crpth1 So sad. I wish they could come back though. Fun to watch!!
The Kreidler 50cc engines were unbeatable in the 70s
So many good memories that 2T sound brings 🤗
Schön, mit 16000 Umdrehungen anfahren und die Kupplung ganz laaangsam kommen lassen.👍👌
In the 60's I was passing by the Vespa scooters with my Kreidler Florett. I still enjoy it!!
I think when the god of speed creater two strokes, he blessed them with insane powerband 🤣
250 thimble-sized explosions a second. Wheeeee.
This Motor Sound xD my cat just showed up and looked confused
Very miss the good old days.. there's were when 2T engines rule the tracks.
I thought I had a fly buzzing around me head. But hey this is good to watch.
rare manier van schakelen heb je. wel geweldige vid.. thanks man
50ccm.... der ritt auf der kanonenkugel 👍👍💪
Great clip, 50's were phenomenal devices.
One little thing though, how to change gear - don't clutch and then drop the throttle because youtube viewers gnash their teeth when you do, better to lightly preload the gear lever and quickly drop the throttle just enough to unload the drivetrain. 😉
Junge Junge, ..das Teil rennt drei mal so schnell wie es Kubik hat ! 👏👍...“ Kreidler Florett, zwei Räder und 'n Brett.“
Can you buy race tires for bikes like that? They don't seem to put much lean angle, is it because the grip is not very good?
@Quirin M. I know nothing about 50cc, but I checked for a random bike, the front tyre is 2,5 inch, so it's more than half the width of a 1000cc front tire, for a third of the weight
In the 1980s you could certainly buy racing tyres for 50cc bikes. The size was usually 2.00 - 18 and you had a choice of Metzeler or Michelin.
If you've never raced 50cc, you have no idea what you are missing!
This awesome, 50cc, 18000rpm, up to 140km/h...
Tomos DMGP 50cc 20hp -210kh
Kreidler Weltmeister
Dans ma jeunesse on avait avec mon frere une zundapp 50 cc mais boite 5 normalement c est des boîtes 4 et le vendredi soir a Vincennes on adorer ce tirait la bourre contre d autres zundapp et dans la ligne droite je me souviens avec quelques un on etait côté a côté mais des que Je voyait qu on était tout les 2 à font de 4 je passé la 5em et la tu voie les gars qui sont degouter parce que il te voie partir à la fin qu on y aller personne ne voulais ce tirait la bourre c était le bon temps les années 79 80
Beinharter Kampf!
Ein heisses, giftiges Gerät!👏👏👏
Definitiv wegen der Leistung und dem Drehzahlband, aber nicht wegen dem Klang. ^^
Woah. I think my mountain bike has fatter tyres! Amazing cornering on those little bikes.
Smaller tires mean smoother response but bad grip
Ralf Waldman (RIP ) had a kreidler engine that hit the 18000 revs during race , would like to see the tranfers in that cylinder
Мы такие в юности собирали с пацанвой во дворах. Рига, Карпаты, Верховина...
Да да, только они ехали 30-40 км/ч
This motorcycle is insane, 50cc can reach 150km/h
Actually back in the day they reached 204 in 1973 Kreidler van veen
Mooi man, lekker gillen met die 50cc's
Impresionante, 50cc a 150kh.
Un gran motore probabilmente il migliore lo dico col ❤
Im 34 and have raced in the 50cc races for the last 7 years.. I got 173kph out of my 50cc..
Wow! That's really fast, I was impressed with 150! 👉👊
@@tyroniousyrownshoolacez2347 yeah it's nippy.. I also race the 125..500... 750 and the 900cc+ but the 50cc is the most fun out of them all
@@tomthehighlandexplorer8085 badass on 50cc! Used to do track days on my old rd125 and lucky to hit 90mph( 145kmph?) on a 3/4 mile back straight, just barely over stock engine. Good times. Always loved the lightweights and bodyenglish, rasping the rubber.
@@tyroniousyrownshoolacez2347 my best is 107mph on my 50cc at Knockhill in the uk.. You can't be beat the the fun to be had on the small engines
@@tomthehighlandexplorer8085 that's for sure. Good times.
Que brutal ala velocidad q hacen las curvas!
😘😘😘😘lo mejor de las motos los 50cc!!!!!!
Shifting when cornering is stuning
Prachtig geluid 🤪
One of best and strong 50 cm3 motor
Buset 50cc bisa tembus 151km/jam gila bngt tenaganya..
Me at the beginning of the video: Pfffft 50cc, slow but I'll watch anyway.
Me at the end of the video: WOW! Those 50cc bikes are pretty damn fast!!!
93 mph is pretty quick for that size of engine!!
prendre de l'angle avec des pneus de (SOLEX) sa doit etre quelque chose ......
Goosebumps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In the seventies, Kreidler dominated the 50cc-class.
It was the Dutch Van Veen who made that happen.
Inzwischen wäre es schön überhaupt mal wieder nach Assen zu fahren und Rennen zu schauen, egal was! Okay noch ein bisschen früh im Jahr, aber Scheiss Corona wird uns das alles noch versauen!! 😢
If I remember correctly in the 1960s some works 50s had 16 forward gears. 😂 Must have been a real working process to race.
Suzuki RP68 in 1967-1968 capable of 200kph 3 cylinder 50cc. Although I also saw 14 speed gearbox reported.
50 cc top speed 151 waooo 👏👏👏
A friend of mine had a ZUNDAPP KS 50 : with a bigger carburetor and removing a stuff in the exhaust, he went at 110 km/h fingers in the nose !
Yeah, reminds me good ol'times...
Had a 50 then installed a 100 CC from a donor on the same frame 😎
it seems like drafting is important here, and gutsy caring of speed into the turns. like all racing, but ....
150 Kph on a 50cc is a hell of a speed
Diossss esos 50cc van como piña !!!
Bravo 👌💪💪👌👌💪 lo mejor las 50cc
MUITAS SAUDADES ERA TUDO MAIS DIVERTIDO ABRAÇOS
really 50cc bike?
Yes
18.000 rpm sond 😍🏍️ 💨
Toothe pic with biggys crown?
there is a tomos dm gp 50 race bike. clocked at 212kph unofficially and 205 officially in a race. imagine that from a 50cc 2stroke.
machine..
2T❤️💪
50cc does 150 km/h? even my Honda CG 125 can only do 120 km/h
Two stroke for soul
love the sound thy make there fast as well
How did you start the bike? Bumpstart?
Yes
150kph from a 50 with no smoke and 75 miles to the gallon why dont 2 strokes make a come back ??
Am I seeing right?
18k rpm??
Yes
チェンジが遅い気がするけれど、構造上これ以上早くはできないのかな？楽しそうですね♪
Heeft u deze Kreidler van iemand uit Zaandijk in NH gekocht?!
Nee, deze is door mijzelf gemaakt, met behulp van de onontbeerlijke, nodige vrienden😁
I had a Go-cart in the mid seventies with a Kreidler 50cc
It was really fast 😎
Ахринеть они гоняют 👍
Unbelievable how thay get that mu h power out of a 50 cc 👍
2 stroke ;)
Great sound
Tjesses wat klinkt dat lekker. Dank je.
Вот тебе и 50 кубиков!)
Mantapp 👍👍👍👍
Die mit der Kamera hatte richtig power
Yeah, thats a track for a 50cc. Subbed.
Fantastic video, thank you.
17000 rpm??? music for my ears
Impressive...14.5k to 15.5 k sweet spot on power band.
Oh really? What zone did you expect?)) On a low-volume naturally aspirated engine, there are NO other ways to increase power and speed, except to increase its revs. Therefore, the maximum power will be exactly at the maximum speed. This bike simply cannot physically develop over 15500 rpm for a long time, this is its limit. The fact that his tachometer is marked up to 18000 does not mean anything. Up to 18,000, his revs jump up for a short time, when shifting gears without resetting the gas. If this dvigalel could develop 18000 for a long time, then, I assure you, the most effective revolutions would be exactly 18000. And nothing else.
@@Supercharger_Carb you have the Dyno chart or raced this bike?
Mr Expert..
On many engines on Dyno and actual load the horsepower drops off after certain rpm is exceeded..
Maybe build and race a few hundred engines then comment kid..
@@MitzvosGolem1 I explained everything to you in detail. I will not repeat myself. If you're not an idiot, you'll understand.
Rpm does NOT increase horsepower..
Kindly take engineering class and study Dyno charts.
STUNNING :)
Opspoedig mate. 👍👍
where can I get a 50cc GP bike?
ゼッケン７９ Kawasaki AR50?
高校生の時にキャブ他改造してmax１１０k/h
勿論、サーキット用です。
スガヤのSuzuki RG Γ50が１３０k/h 出てたと思う
約４０年も前の事です。
this was basically my dream bike when i was 14 LOL
Same
This is like VTEC for bikes.
Lots of noise, high RPMs but you barely reaches 150 km/h lol
Hé, its 50cc.
Очень шустренько! Клас!
@Григорян Пихтов запилен в хлам на обороты
*Woooooowwwwww ...... !*
Geht ja wie Sau das Teil!
速すぎる原付
John....Shu
👍👍👍🏍🏍🏍
150kmh 50cc.. Damn wtf so fast for a small engine