+Tyrone Magnus I always considered John Campea to be a credible critic until I saw this review. SMH Tyrone Magnus I hope you'll at least give us fans an HONEST reaction. For the record, I like DC but garbage is garbage.
+jacob nuse It's all good. I loved MOS and I am pumped to see BVS in couple of hours from now. It's cool that you at least will give BVS a chance and not abandon it!
this is a movie for the fans... not for the critics. I actually felt bad for Superman because he was physically, mentally, and spiritually hurt in every way possible. I actually cried. this movie is amazing in MY opinion. I cheated on Marvel for DC and I'm proud of it. My mind was blown because I saw every single easter egg. I enjoyed it. I didn't look at it as a movie, I looked at it as a comic book. I felt like I was reading a comic book and I enjoyed that.
Non-fans could appreciate it as well. I saw several in the audience who were not fans that liked the movie. a lot of you should note that a number of critics still encouraged people to go see the film even though they gave a low score.
+Rolo B. how much of it is bad delivery and how much of it is bad lines? from what I heard from campea, it's not gadot's fault, and that she actually delivered well. like faora, she works as the silent badass in a group film, but I really hope they give her a good script come her solo movie.
+Moist Von Lipwig -- yeah.. exactly, The character of Faora was so awesome for me. The CHARACTER, not the actress, Maybe that's why people are saying that Wonder Woman is a badass! Not necessarily speaking of Gal, but the character. John here, is a professional movie reviewer he sees both, the character and the actress. That's probably why he is saying that about Gal and Wonder Woman. Gal did a decent/good job, but WW is awesome. yeah. just like faora. I'm ok with that!
+Rolo B. Got to agree with John here. I liked the movie I have some issues with it and I thought Gal was alright. She had a couple of good lines but some were pretty wooden and I hate to say it because I really wanted to love everything about this movie but she wasn't bad so I'm interested to see her in the solo movie.
+denned HD it's 40% but explain me this if it make sense to you. Sharknado has a score of 83% and Sharknado 2 of 59%. So which one is then, the movie or the Web site that is a joke. Think about that one smartass coz I am sure you will figure it out with you peanut brain.
The problem isnt so much that the critique didn't like it but how bad they are portraying it. They are incoherent with their previous reviews. It's also all the buzz being fuelled and media influence and we all know how some people are easily influenced.
I saw the movie too. I so loved it. Without giving it away, the one scene with batman and superman was so emotional, it made me cry. John you know what I'm talkin about!
thank you John, after watching the schmoes, stuckmann, and Jahn's review and being such a fan of DC, I've been sitting here slightly depressed...but you have given me hope! 👍
Stuckman also didn't like man of Steel too much, he is a great guy but I don't about his movie taste.. He is not a hater but I think he missed the point of the movies. At least he is honest, so I like him!
+RICH'S KICKS I saw the movie and i can't believe the negative reviews !!!, 33% on rotten tomatoes? This is not a "Twilight" level kind of movie, i mean Batman & Robin is a bad movie, this was a mature, action packed exiting movie that every comic book fan need to see !!!
Thank you John! I enjoyed the movie also, I'm not sure why critics are bashing on it. Yes its not the best movie ever, but its good. I've watched it twice already. and I loved it.I completely agree the fight scene was amazing. Ben Affleck is THE BATMAN!!
+John Campea what I meant by everyone is every review that I have seen released. obviously they are blinded by fan goggles, I was just saying how its interesting to see a different opinion. same way as many people are saying that dd season 2 was better than 1, and others have said it was worse. I wasn't saying you were wrong, just saying how other opinions say the opposite of you
+chris71388 yep. It's seems the people praising her are mostly just praising how she's used, Wonder Woman steals the show because she steals the best superhero entrances.
+Yoni Katz He really doesn't hate on her at all man. He's actually praising her as much as he can which is amazing considering he went into the movie expecting her to suck. If he went into the movie with a neutral opinion maybe he would have been saying she was a stand out
Saw the movie at a fan screening last night. While I thought Man of Steel was ok, I thought that BvS was a HUGE improvement. Absolutely loved it and I was happy that despite what I thought of the trailers, they actually didn't ruin the movie for me at all.
i seen this movie as well last night and absolutely loved it, i really feel like they did not waste one minute of the 2 and a half hrs they had, its one of those movies that you enjoy so much that the time flies by, you dont realize it and it leaves you wanting more! this movie respected the comic or should i say "comics" that it was influenced by, frank miller's dark knight return and another well known superman story arc that i wont go into detail about, i gave it a 9 rating, going back to see it Thursday, fri and sat!! Definitely worth it!!
I just got back from watching BVS with the family and I have to say it was GREAT! Everyone enjoyed it and the kids are asking when the BVS 2 coming?! I'm not a critic, but I watch a lot of movies - about 3 every week - sometimes more - and I have say I had a great time watching this movie. I was worry since rotten tomato has it at 41%, but for me it was a 9/10. Very good movie. I would highly recommend it to anyone.
Now this is the Campea I came to like years ago before things got super big over on AMC/Collider. Striking out on your own again suits you, man. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
+Isai Orozco Not sure if you have seen this movie yet, i loved bales batman but holy shit affleck is by far the best batman and if you deny that you are lying to yourself
+Isai Orozco just came back from the theater, Batfleck is amazing. However, the rest of the movie was a cringfest, I think fight scene and Batman saved it from receiving a 1/10.
+William Simkulet Have you seen the movie? I just saw it and it's really good. Full of great moments. A little messy in its editing during the first act though. Starting with the congress scene, it gets amazing though! No, I just think Campea DID like it.
abonny I'm glad you can enjoyed it, but I can assure you that by objective standards of plot, character development, etc. it is not "really good." Look at critic reviews, which have pretty much universally panned the movie. Some people have said it's "stupid action", but most have even said that it's not very fun. If you enjoyed it - good for you. But embracing relativism about quality is going a step too far. But you agree with this, otherwise you wouldn't have bothered to mention how you enjoyed it - evidence, in your eyes, that it's good.
William Simkulet Again, have you seen it? Objectively speaking the movie is full of great character moments by Affleck, Eisenberg, Diane Lane etc. I DID look at the critics and most of them seem to take issue in the fact that this movie takes itself VERY seriously. That it is not making fun of itself. That it's action somehow "negates" the good moments (which is rediculous statement imo). Interestingly, it has some funny moments in it. The audience I saw it with laughed quite alot (Lines from Alfred, Luthor and one big laugh from a Martha Kent line to Batman). I know it sounds old but it is one of those moments when the "big" critics seem once again unable to get over themselves. They don't want to take superheros seriously, never have. That's why they seem to gravitate towards Marvel movies. They are more selfaware/jokey. Apparently some of them need that. Oh and it wasn't universally panned by them. They seem to be split 2/3 (some more on the negative side). I you haven't seen the movie just go watch it and decide for yourself. Don't let a critic tell what what is objectively bad. They are people. People are subjective.
I gave this an 8 when I got done watching it. Having slept on it overnight, I'm starting to edge toward an 8.5 or 9. Ben Affleck was awesome. Gal Gadot had moments of awesome. And Henry Cavill had some really touching moments. And yes, this was the best Batman we've ever seen. It was very reminiscent of the animated series yet did stuff we have not seen before. It covered every major attribute too, detective work, fighting skills, tactics, escape artist.
Batman. Just having that character represented on screen, delivered in every single way you would think possible and at least one element that I didn't. A couple of great moments involve him. One was a huge surprise and another more emotional. Both affect what he does after.
tiona mcmanus I had issues with Man of Steel's pacing. The end fights went on too long with little dialogue. Batman v Superman had a decent balance between dialog and action. It's not something you notice unless something is done wrong and you start to get bored. That never happened with me. Even with the serious moments, I paid rapt attention to what was being said. The action sequences were fairly concise, seeming an adequate length.
(SPOILERS) Ben litterallly killed it as Batman, but i wish they would have given him more than one line to explain his willingness to take people down by lethal force. Batman here never kills anyone directly, but when he chases the kryptonite he makes some guys cars blow up etc. And he killed the guy with a flamethrower because he was saving Martha Kent (from Bats point of view he was obviously saving his own mother.... Martha Wayne...) They should have had a line or two about how "he has do to do whatever it takes" to take down Superman. But that's probably in the directors cut.
+tio borracho Did I say that? No, I did not. I'm simply taking somebody's word who I feel that I've come to know personally throughout the past few years, have observed his thoughts on film, and who I generally agree with on almost every movie over critics who I know nothing about. Campea is a huge fan of comic book films, as well as I, and I think that if he liked it, I will, too. That doesn't mean that I WILL like it, I'm just saying that I trust John because him and I usually share the same opinion on movies.
Hey John. What about the Rotten Tomatoes score?? What do you think happened?? I give the movie a 6, but 31% on Rotten is almost as bad as Green Lantern.
***** Return of the Jedi is not a bad movie, but it's nowhere near the Star Wars and Empire. I wish John Campea would make football picks, then I'd have winners every Sunday by picking the opposing team. Imagine how much money we'd all make!
Hi John. If it's not too much trouble, I would appreciate it if you could answer two questions for me: 1) I know you loved Man of Steel, but I really didn't like it. Based on that, do you think I will enjoy Batman v Superman? 2) While Gal Gadot's performance as Wonder Woman wasn't a trainwreck like you feared it would be, you clearly weren't thrilled with it either. Does that make you nervous about the Wonder Woman movie and her ability to carry it?
+Kevin Carney People who didn't like Man of Steel generally have like BVS so far (although, I'll never understand why people don't like Man of Steel, but I digress). I personally was more than pleased with Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman and I think she'll do more than enough to carry her own movie. HOWEVER, she certainly wasn't the standout for me in BVS. To me, it was Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor. Just my personal opinion. Don't know how John will answer it, personally.
+Kevin Carney From another comment section, someone asked him was he more/less hyped about the WW movie based on her performance in BvS and he said less hyped... So I guess that kinda answers the 2nd question if you don't get a reply from him yet....
david nguyen Either Pan was a dud, or they got a different writer for the project that doesn't get credited. Happens all the time. Wonder Woman, I think, will be a pretty good movie.
david nguyen Yeah, but it's a different director, dude. Only the writer that wrote Pan is involved with Wonder Woman and only for the writing part of the film, which I believe went under many re-writes without him.
OK I'd like to ask you this if I may (not interested in spoilers) John you are one of the people who loved "Man of Steel" but what about those who didn't enjoy it. Is this movie good enough (in terms of tone, feel and story) to win them over or is it just more of what we have already seen?
This is one good movie. Ignore the reviews, judge for yourself. And I agree Ben nailed both Bats and Bruce. Cavill is the Superman at the end that most people wanted in MOS.
John, I have a quick question and I hope you could back to me with this. I'm going to see this with my mom. She's korean but she's pretty fluid in english. Not perfect but she can understand a lot from someone who grew up in korea. She can watch movies like spotlight and really enjoy it. I just want to ask, do you think someone like my mom could appreciate this film? She's a little older, but do you think this movie will be to inaccessible for her or do you think she can enjoy this film too?
Surprisingly, the movie didn't suffer because of Gal Gadot. She was...okay. The movie suffered because of Jessie Eisengerg's Lex Luthor. My God, he was terrible.!
snoopi kinnaird Yeah, I respect Campea's movie opinions enough to say to each his own, but can you imagine how menacing Lex Luthor would be if they'd gone with Mark Strong or another actor of his character? Being different for the sake of difference isn't always a good thing.
snoopi kinnaird To each his own...but DEAR GOD WHY??!! lol Really though, could you share your reasoning on HOW that's a good performance? I can't wrap my head around that and really would like to consider another viewpoint.
You don't know how relieved I am to hear this. With some of the negative reviews I thought this movie was gonna be bad. I trust your opinion and I'm so glad you liked it.
thank you for putting this up! the other reviews Ive listened to didn't really give me a good read on what people really think about the movie. everyone's just being really passive because they can't do spoilers but it was nice to hear someone who has fairly definitive thoughts and feelings on the film.
I saw the film last night as well, and I've gotta say I thought it was phenomenal! The third act was so relentless, that I had a shit-eating grin the entire time
Hey John, thanks for the video! I was wondering whether you thought this movie was a better than the man of steel movie (which I, like you, thought was a great movie), thanks.
Oh whew! Thank god! I was a little worried but seeing the opinion of someone I trust in a positive form for this movie has made me feel a lot better! Thanks John! Miss you on movie talk but I hope you're happy in your current endeavors.
Dear John, I am a big fan of yours, I've been following your reviews on every comicbook movie, and your the only one i trust to do a good (non spoiler) review & I've always respected your opinion, this review got my hype for this movie more up. Thanks man
What version of BvS was John watching? Is it a special cut for special fan screening? I posibbly watched the not so good version... Batman was the best thing in it.
Saw it at the fan screening. I absolutely loved it cause they did not play it safe. This movie builds a universe a very dark one, but so different from marvel/fox. Very unique, and jaw dropping moments.
He cant its 2am his wife is sleeping. He gave this movie a "solid 8" which for most of movie talk is probably a 9 so i think the movie will be awesome!
I loved the movie so much too... but the fact that you weren't impress with Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman SUCKS! Whatever dude, she was awesome, I can't wait to see her solo movie now thanks to her performance in BvS. I think Triple Nine throw you off or something about her and that's why you're not liking her, but she was the highlight of the movie. HER THEME SONG.... was exiting! Anyway I love you but you were wrong about Gal! lol
Hey john, I just watched it (NO SPOILERS) but I was just curious what was your thoughts on Diane Lane performance in this movie, idk I really enjoyed it a lot better than her man of steel performance?
solid 8 is good score for a movie. I think when he see it again it will go higher. for me is 9 for sure but I have to see it again. everything he says I agree completely. for me is the second best comic book movie ever but the most amazing
Bravo review... I wish I was as good as you. Your opinions were so professional and well poised, keep this up and thank you for no spoilers!! Always will respect your opinion!
Because its not the same type of movie that marvel makes. That is literally the case with a lot of reviews I've seen. "Not enough jokes" "too dark" "too much violence".
This man is the best film critic working. John has different tastes than I do, but he is incredibly consistent in his reviews. I always want to know his thoughts, even though they are usually different than my own. Never change Campea, never change.
Lol the reviews I'm reading on rotten tomatoes are just weird. Hearing complaints it's too serious. Like it's being compared to Marvel movies. I know people were going to be ready to hate on this movie.
+ThatDopeChannel We all know DC was going to have darker and serious tone. Their animated movies are the same way in contrast to Marvel animated films. This is who DC is so I don't understand why people are shocked.
+ThatDopeChannel It doesn't mean the character has to be dark even though he's in a dark movie. Superman WAS Superman in this movie. The Punisher can be in a jokey lighter toned movie without changing who he is, the characters around him can, but he can still be the Punisher.
***** Who did he kill? He killed no one except for the dream sequence, don't try to slide that in there. To address the threats, Lex Luthor just threw Lois off a roof, in this more realistic take you expect him not to get angry at Lex? The only other threat was directed at Batman which helped fuel thier fued. He's made harsher threats in the comics, read one or two before you comment on the character.
Just came back from the cinema, and I am shocked to see that BvS is currently at 40% at RT. Did we see the same movie? I was expecting it to lay somewhere between 70 and 80%.
John I can't really remember your reactions after watching "Man of Steel" , but how would you compare your feelings for "BvS" to your feelings for "MoS" , just after you got out of the theatre?
I don't give a hot steaming pile of shit about Rotten Tomatoes. I don't rely on reviews to dictate my enjoyment or disappointment in anything music, movies, etc. It's ignorant and childish to do so
+Mindstorm Records Reviews don't dictate your enjoyment of anything. They're simply a summation of everyone else's opinion. and most of them disagree with you
I'm delighted that you liked it - i'm off to see it tomorrow and I can't wait! The overly negative reviews that i'd read seemed excessive almost to the point of cringe, so it's refreshing to hear this from you :)
spoiler alert bro: don't you think there might be a reason why critics and viewers are saying it's garbage? camper is suffering from phantom menace syndrome...I honestly think some you tubers are being paid by studios...it's clearly boring and a mess and wasted opportunity of a movie.
+Boilermaker I get you man, I do! But there's no way the movie angered people THAT much - some of the reactions are overly excessive. The movie is what it is - it's not good, but it's not offensive either and people need to chill the f** out :D
Patrick Corr sorry mate I waited over 20 years to see the JLA movie...you have to excuse me when it's not just a movie to me, I remember watching SuperFriends on saturday mornings. DC and the studios are just bad at their jobs. Anybody with love for this iconic team and brand would have done better without even trying. DC and Snyder made POOP...lol
Saw it at the Imax fan screening too! I agree they had the balls to do some things, specially the ending. Wonder woman's score was electric and her fighting badass! Solid 8.5 for me!
I appreciate you honest opinion John. Going with friends Saturday, cannot wait...but all the negativity had me concern. Hearing your review restores hope. I know you like Man of steel, as did I, so I think your review is closer to what I will feel. Thank you for sharing.
My big fat Greek wedding two is garbage. This movie has so much effort and detail poured into into it that it's maddening when people think THIS is garbage
Zahinn Agree to disagree. We all experience films differently and see things in certain films that other don't based on our own life experiences, our heart, our mind, and our own subjective tastes in film. It's a solid film, if you ask me.
That's what I'm talking about Campea, Woooooo!
Wooooo!
+Tyrone Magnus wooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+Tyrone Magnus I always considered John Campea to be a credible critic until I saw this review. SMH Tyrone Magnus I hope you'll at least give us fans an HONEST reaction. For the record, I like DC but garbage is garbage.
+Brooke the fuck you're talking about.
+Brooke preach
Hey, if you loved MOS the way I did dude....... I trust you.
I agree with you dude. I ate my words with Ben...he DOMINATED the role. I can't wait to see him play Batman again.
This is the most positive review I've heard from a professional critic.
comicandscreen.blogspot.com/2016/03/interpreting-batman-v-superman-reviews.html
He's not a professional critic lol
Luciano Espinoza true just a regular critic who loves film
as much as I respect John's opinion I am still not looking forward to this movie
+Johnny _MP He just has a different opinion. He's not butthurt.
Are you still going to see it?
+Media Fanatic absolutely and I really hope that it will be good but I wanna keep my expectations low because I personally did not love MoS
+jacob nuse It's all good. I loved MOS and I am pumped to see BVS in couple of hours from now. It's cool that you at least will give BVS a chance and not abandon it!
+jacob nuse ppl go didn"t like MOS, really loved or liked BVS. Get your butt out there to watch it
this is a movie for the fans... not for the critics. I actually felt bad for Superman because he was physically, mentally, and spiritually hurt in every way possible. I actually cried. this movie is amazing in MY opinion. I cheated on Marvel for DC and I'm proud of it. My mind was blown because I saw every single easter egg. I enjoyed it. I didn't look at it as a movie, I looked at it as a comic book. I felt like I was reading a comic book and I enjoyed that.
Non-fans could appreciate it as well. I saw several in the audience who were not fans that liked the movie.
Non-fans could appreciate it as well. I saw several in the audience who were not fans that liked the movie. a lot of you should note that a number of critics still encouraged people to go see the film even though they gave a low score.
Maybe Gal is "awesome" like Faora was in Man of Steel. She has like 12 lines too..
awsm cmment.. m agree
+Rolo B. how much of it is bad delivery and how much of it is bad lines? from what I heard from campea, it's not gadot's fault, and that she actually delivered well. like faora, she works as the silent badass in a group film, but I really hope they give her a good script come her solo movie.
+Moist Von Lipwig -- yeah.. exactly, The character of Faora was so awesome for me. The CHARACTER, not the actress, Maybe that's why people are saying that Wonder Woman is a badass! Not necessarily speaking of Gal, but the character. John here, is a professional movie reviewer he sees both, the character and the actress. That's probably why he is saying that about Gal and Wonder Woman. Gal did a decent/good job, but WW is awesome. yeah. just like faora. I'm ok with that!
*****
thanks for the clarification. :D
+Rolo B. Got to agree with John here. I liked the movie I have some issues with it and I thought Gal was alright. She had a couple of good lines but some were pretty wooden and I hate to say it because I really wanted to love everything about this movie but she wasn't bad so I'm interested to see her in the solo movie.
you wanna hear a joke?
Rotten Tomatoes
37% for bvs. Funny right ?
+denned HD it's 40% but explain me this if it make sense to you.
Sharknado has a score of 83% and Sharknado 2 of 59%. So which one is then, the movie or the Web site that is a joke. Think about that one smartass coz I am sure you will figure it out with you peanut brain.
+Niki Dimitrov Bravo!!!!!!
TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE
A funnier joke would have been this movie
The movie was fantastic guys. You all need to chill.
+Mickael Frimann Exactly...one of the best superhero movies I've ever seen !!
+Anas Smadi 6th best imo. But close.
As a huge MAN OF STEEL fan. I'm super stoked for BvS
BVS was terrific, appreciate the positivity from campea on this given how ridiculously so many critics have lined up against it
The problem isnt so much that the critique didn't like it but how bad they are portraying it. They are incoherent with their previous reviews. It's also all the buzz being fuelled and media influence and we all know how some people are easily influenced.
I saw the movie too. I so loved it. Without giving it away, the one scene with batman and superman was so emotional, it made me cry. John you know what I'm talkin about!
thank you John, after watching the schmoes, stuckmann, and Jahn's review and being such a fan of DC, I've been sitting here slightly depressed...but you have given me hope! 👍
Stuckman also didn't like man of Steel too much, he is a great guy but I don't about his movie taste.. He is not a hater but I think he missed the point of the movies. At least he is honest, so I like him!
+RICH'S KICKS yeah, they all have mix review that make us worried ! maybe this movie is not fit their taste
+RICH'S KICKS I saw the movie and i can't believe the negative reviews !!!, 33% on rotten tomatoes? This is not a "Twilight" level kind of movie, i mean Batman & Robin is a bad movie, this was a mature, action packed exiting movie that every comic book fan need to see !!!
Yeah right. John has the worse taste in movies. He's the last reviewer I trust if I want check out a movie.
+Rolo B. Chris gave man of steel a B+ how is that a bad rating? He liked it but not loved it
Thank you John! I enjoyed the movie also, I'm not sure why critics are bashing on it. Yes its not the best movie ever, but its good. I've watched it twice already. and I loved it.I completely agree the fight scene was amazing. Ben Affleck is THE BATMAN!!
They are bashing it cause it sucks
everyone has been saying that wonder woman was the best characters in the movie... so it's weird seeing you dislike her so much
+John Campea what I meant by everyone is every review that I have seen released. obviously they are blinded by fan goggles, I was just saying how its interesting to see a different opinion. same way as many people are saying that dd season 2 was better than 1, and others have said it was worse. I wasn't saying you were wrong, just saying how other opinions say the opposite of you
+John Campea look at all the tweets released from the premiere
+John Campea john at least 40% of the tweets have raved about wonder woman on them
+chris71388 yep. It's seems the people praising her are mostly just praising how she's used, Wonder Woman steals the show because she steals the best superhero entrances.
+Yoni Katz He really doesn't hate on her at all man. He's actually praising her as much as he can which is amazing considering he went into the movie expecting her to suck. If he went into the movie with a neutral opinion maybe he would have been saying she was a stand out
Saw the movie at a fan screening last night. While I thought Man of Steel was ok, I thought that BvS was a HUGE improvement. Absolutely loved it and I was happy that despite what I thought of the trailers, they actually didn't ruin the movie for me at all.
great to hear a positive reaction from you John, can't wait to see the movie myself
i seen this movie as well last night and absolutely loved it, i really feel like they did not waste one minute of the 2 and a half hrs they had, its one of those movies that you enjoy so much that the time flies by, you dont realize it and it leaves you wanting more! this movie respected the comic or should i say "comics" that it was influenced by, frank miller's dark knight return and another well known superman story arc that i wont go into detail about, i gave it a 9 rating, going back to see it Thursday, fri and sat!! Definitely worth it!!
I just got back from watching BVS with the family and I have to say it was GREAT! Everyone enjoyed it and the kids are asking when the BVS 2 coming?! I'm not a critic, but I watch a lot of movies - about 3 every week - sometimes more - and I have say I had a great time watching this movie. I was worry since rotten tomato has it at 41%, but for me it was a 9/10. Very good movie. I would highly recommend it to anyone.
That's the key to becoming a critic. Watch a lot of movies, watch a variety of movies, and find out why you like or dislike them. That's it.
Now this is the Campea I came to like years ago before things got super big over on AMC/Collider. Striking out on your own again suits you, man. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
Ben and Zack imma let you finish, but Bale and Nolan bade the best Batman movie of all time
You tried
Yes!
no it wasn't. Look again on Batman '89 and you'll see a #true Batman adaptation
+Isai Orozco Not sure if you have seen this movie yet, i loved bales batman but holy shit affleck is by far the best batman and if you deny that you are lying to yourself
+Isai Orozco just came back from the theater, Batfleck is amazing. However, the rest of the movie was a cringfest, I think fight scene and Batman saved it from receiving a 1/10.
John got Phantom Menaced... Again.
+William Simkulet My thoughts exactly!
+William Simkulet
LOL so true. The man likes everything....EVERYTHING.....he needs to get off the fence more.
+William Simkulet Have you seen the movie? I just saw it and it's really good. Full of great moments. A little messy in its editing during the first act though. Starting with the congress scene, it gets amazing though! No, I just think Campea DID like it.
abonny
I'm glad you can enjoyed it, but I can assure you that by objective standards of plot, character development, etc. it is not "really good."
Look at critic reviews, which have pretty much universally panned the movie. Some people have said it's "stupid action", but most have even said that it's not very fun.
If you enjoyed it - good for you. But embracing relativism about quality is going a step too far. But you agree with this, otherwise you wouldn't have bothered to mention how you enjoyed it - evidence, in your eyes, that it's good.
William Simkulet
Again, have you seen it?
Objectively speaking the movie is full of great character moments by Affleck, Eisenberg, Diane Lane etc.
I DID look at the critics and most of them seem to take issue in the fact that this movie takes itself VERY seriously. That it is not making fun of itself. That it's action somehow "negates" the good moments (which is rediculous statement imo). Interestingly, it has some funny moments in it. The audience I saw it with laughed quite alot (Lines from Alfred, Luthor and one big laugh from a Martha Kent line to Batman).
I know it sounds old but it is one of those moments when the "big" critics seem once again unable to get over themselves. They don't want to take superheros seriously, never have. That's why they seem to gravitate towards Marvel movies. They are more selfaware/jokey. Apparently some of them need that. Oh and it wasn't universally panned by them. They seem to be split 2/3 (some more on the negative side).
I you haven't seen the movie just go watch it and decide for yourself. Don't let a critic tell what what is objectively bad. They are people. People are subjective.
all who thumbs down are DC haters. Thanks this makes me more excited for the movie
I feel really sorry for those losers who are swayed away by negative reviews and don't have their own opinion. Haters are haters no matter what.
+Clark Jr Kent Yeah, how dare people have differing opinions!
+Jack Weird i have my opinion: the movie was good
+Clark Jr Kent And I could say that I feel sorry for loser fanboys who defend their trash no matter what.
Ed C23 hahahah..silly, my life is happier because I know what I enjoy. While you , you are simply a loser.
Wonder Woman was the best part of the film!!!! Gal killed it. Batfleck was terrifying. Ughhh it was awesome. can't wait for JL
Thank you, John, for being one of the few critics that doesn't sound biased. Great review and keep up the awesome work!
I gave this an 8 when I got done watching it. Having slept on it overnight, I'm starting to edge toward an 8.5 or 9.
Ben Affleck was awesome. Gal Gadot had moments of awesome. And Henry Cavill had some really touching moments. And yes, this was the best Batman we've ever seen. It was very reminiscent of the animated series yet did stuff we have not seen before. It covered every major attribute too, detective work, fighting skills, tactics, escape artist.
so what were some of the reasons you liked the movie? without spoiling please. everyone is really spilt down the middle on this movie.
+tiona mcmanus When the fight between Batman and Superman ends, and was very sad. It was so good.
Batman. Just having that character represented on screen, delivered in every single way you would think possible and at least one element that I didn't.
A couple of great moments involve him. One was a huge surprise and another more emotional. Both affect what he does after.
Cool Cat how would you say the pacing was? I'm seeing complaints about that as well.
tiona mcmanus I had issues with Man of Steel's pacing. The end fights went on too long with little dialogue.
Batman v Superman had a decent balance between dialog and action. It's not something you notice unless something is done wrong and you start to get bored. That never happened with me. Even with the serious moments, I paid rapt attention to what was being said. The action sequences were fairly concise, seeming an adequate length.
(SPOILERS) Ben litterallly killed it as Batman, but i wish they would have given him more than one line to explain his willingness to take people down by lethal force. Batman here never kills anyone directly, but when he chases the kryptonite he makes some guys cars blow up etc. And he killed the guy with a flamethrower because he was saving Martha Kent (from Bats point of view he was obviously saving his own mother.... Martha Wayne...)
They should have had a line or two about how "he has do to do whatever it takes" to take down Superman. But that's probably in the directors cut.
John, I trust you. We usually have the same opinion on all movies, including Man of Steel, so I'm taking your judgement over those at Rotten Tomatoes.
+Ryley Robbins Because ALL of those critics must be wrong???
+tio borracho Did I say that? No, I did not. I'm simply taking somebody's word who I feel that I've come to know personally throughout the past few years, have observed his thoughts on film, and who I generally agree with on almost every movie over critics who I know nothing about. Campea is a huge fan of comic book films, as well as I, and I think that if he liked it, I will, too. That doesn't mean that I WILL like it, I'm just saying that I trust John because him and I usually share the same opinion on movies.
YOU ARE THE HERO DC DESERVES AND ALSO THE ONE IT NEEDS
This is a movie you have to watch twice to appreciate it more.
Hey John. What about the Rotten Tomatoes score?? What do you think happened?? I give the movie a 6, but 31% on Rotten is almost as bad as Green Lantern.
One thing I've learned is if John Campea says something, then the opposite is usually true.
+RobotShlomo more often then not
nexushero I'll admit I have no idea who Armond White is.
***** Return of the Jedi is not a bad movie, but it's nowhere near the Star Wars and Empire. I wish John Campea would make football picks, then I'd have winners every Sunday by picking the opposing team. Imagine how much money we'd all make!
seeing this movie on Saturday
same!
John will have seen this 3 times before I see it once, lucky
+Dustin Catalan Im seeing it on Thursday :p
+Chrysio I'd like to go see it with a packed house of fans but I'll have to work Thursday and Friday
+Dustin Catalan same
Hi John. If it's not too much trouble, I would appreciate it if you could answer two questions for me:
1) I know you loved Man of Steel, but I really didn't like it. Based on that, do you think I will enjoy Batman v Superman?
2) While Gal Gadot's performance as Wonder Woman wasn't a trainwreck like you feared it would be, you clearly weren't thrilled with it either. Does that make you nervous about the Wonder Woman movie and her ability to carry it?
+Kevin Carney People who didn't like Man of Steel generally have like BVS so far (although, I'll never understand why people don't like Man of Steel, but I digress).
I personally was more than pleased with Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman and I think she'll do more than enough to carry her own movie. HOWEVER, she certainly wasn't the standout for me in BVS. To me, it was Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor.
Just my personal opinion. Don't know how John will answer it, personally.
+Kevin Carney From another comment section, someone asked him was he more/less hyped about the WW movie based on her performance in BvS and he said less hyped... So I guess that kinda answers the 2nd question if you don't get a reply from him yet....
david nguyen Either Pan was a dud, or they got a different writer for the project that doesn't get credited. Happens all the time. Wonder Woman, I think, will be a pretty good movie.
david nguyen Yeah, but it's a different director, dude. Only the writer that wrote Pan is involved with Wonder Woman and only for the writing part of the film, which I believe went under many re-writes without him.
OK I'd like to ask you this if I may (not interested in spoilers) John you are one of the people who loved "Man of Steel" but what about those who didn't enjoy it. Is this movie good enough (in terms of tone, feel and story) to win them over or is it just more of what we have already seen?
This is one good movie. Ignore the reviews, judge for yourself.
And I agree Ben nailed both Bats and Bruce. Cavill is the Superman at the end that most people wanted in MOS.
+Joe Rodriguez Cavill has the acting chops of a piece of drift wood.
I saw it at the fan screening also. Loved everything. The movie was phenomenal and I can't wait to see it again!! Glad u liked it John
to me this was a very good movie 4/5
1st time watcher, liked your review and im still glad im going on Saturday, sod the haters. it will be great
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Awesome can't wait to see it! Thank You John!
Completely agree. It's a good movie. Really appreciate your honest review and not being influenced by other views. Subbed.
John, what did you enjoy more, MoS or BvS?
+Yugi Muto I just saw the movie. It's way better than MoS.
+Nestor Vlaya That's good news. Thanks.
+Nestor Vlaya ok, but the question now is.. Did you like MOS? From 1 to 10 a quick rating of MOS? and another for BVS?
MoS was a 6 and BvS 8-9. It was epic on many scales. You'll see what I mean when you see it. There are a lot of plot twists.
John, I have a quick question and I hope you could back to me with this. I'm going to see this with my mom. She's korean but she's pretty fluid in english. Not perfect but she can understand a lot from someone who grew up in korea. She can watch movies like spotlight and really enjoy it. I just want to ask, do you think someone like my mom could appreciate this film? She's a little older, but do you think this movie will be to inaccessible for her or do you think she can enjoy this film too?
Surprisingly, the movie didn't suffer because of Gal Gadot. She was...okay. The movie suffered because of Jessie Eisengerg's Lex Luthor. My God, he was terrible.!
+pjamese3 Yeah, when Campea said he liked Luthor I was like "wtf you DC fanboy. Stop loving it just for the sake of DC"
+dragonrings14 or he just liked it
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Yeah, I respect Campea's movie opinions enough to say to each his own, but can you imagine how menacing Lex Luthor would be if they'd gone with Mark Strong or another actor of his character?
Being different for the sake of difference isn't always a good thing.
pjamese3 i liked jesse as lex
snoopi kinnaird
To each his own...but DEAR GOD WHY??!! lol
Really though, could you share your reasoning on HOW that's a good performance? I can't wrap my head around that and really would like to consider another viewpoint.
You don't know how relieved I am to hear this. With some of the negative reviews I thought this movie was gonna be bad. I trust your opinion and I'm so glad you liked it.
Just got back from it. FUCKING AWESOME!!! I loved it :)
thank you for putting this up! the other reviews Ive listened to didn't really give me a good read on what people really think about the movie. everyone's just being really passive because they can't do spoilers but it was nice to hear someone who has fairly definitive thoughts and feelings on the film.
I saw the film last night as well, and I've gotta say I thought it was phenomenal! The third act was so relentless, that I had a shit-eating grin the entire time
Hey John, thanks for the video! I was wondering whether you thought this movie was a better than the man of steel movie (which I, like you, thought was a great movie), thanks.
Yes Ben Affleck is the best batman to appear on screen
Oh whew! Thank god! I was a little worried but seeing the opinion of someone I trust in a positive form for this movie has made me feel a lot better! Thanks John! Miss you on movie talk but I hope you're happy in your current endeavors.
I'm glad you liked in John. I really enjoyed it too.
Dear John, I am a big fan of yours, I've been following your reviews on every comicbook movie, and your the only one i trust to do a good (non spoiler) review & I've always respected your opinion, this review got my hype for this movie more up. Thanks man
I dont know man.....
People were saying The Force Awakens was great early but I saw It and thought it was on some bullshit!
+Vader...You Seek Vader! Well, I though TFA was great! And I think this was great, too! It depends on the person I guess.
What version of BvS was John watching? Is it a special cut for special fan screening? I posibbly watched the not so good version... Batman was the best thing in it.
John gave it 8/10, but don't hate on that. Johns 8s are still great movies if you seen his other reviews
Thank God. I really appreciate you doing this for us, John. I greatly anticipate your podcast today.
I knew Ben would be good. Like you John I thought Ben was a great choice.
Saw it at the fan screening. I absolutely loved it cause they did not play it safe. This movie builds a universe a very dark one, but so different from marvel/fox. Very unique, and jaw dropping moments.
I'm kinda sad that John wasn't going crazy over it
He cant its 2am his wife is sleeping. He gave this movie a "solid 8" which for most of movie talk is probably a 9 so i think the movie will be awesome!
Hey John, will Schnepp also be able to watch it tomorrow before this weeks Collider Heroes? Want to hear your thoughts on the show
I loved the movie so much too... but the fact that you weren't impress with Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman SUCKS! Whatever dude, she was awesome, I can't wait to see her solo movie now thanks to her performance in BvS. I think Triple Nine throw you off or something about her and that's why you're not liking her, but she was the highlight of the movie. HER THEME SONG.... was exiting! Anyway I love you but you were wrong about Gal! lol
Hey john, I just watched it (NO SPOILERS) but I was just curious what was your thoughts on Diane Lane performance in this movie, idk I really enjoyed it a lot better than her man of steel performance?
@John Campea Couldn't agree more on Afleck's rendition of Batman. Amazing performance. I thouroghly enjoyed the movie.
thanks John, I trust your judgement, I was trying to watch you on periscope but no sound
i liked the movie and ben affleck did good..i was surprised
Thank you for a quick review, but I'm curious to know if you liked this movie more than Man of Steel?
solid 8 is good score for a movie. I think when he see it again it will go higher. for me is 9 for sure but I have to see it again. everything he says I agree completely. for me is the second best comic book movie ever but the most amazing
first one best movie.
Dark Knight
+Tysonescobar Marioescobar but very little difference. dark Knight is better like a solid movie bvs is a better CBM
This is an interesting review. John is the only person I've seen so far of the bigger reviewers who is this positive about the movie.
John isn't a critic though.
best zack snyder movie yet and batfleck killed it. better than TDKR, AoU, Deadpool. 9 out of 10 from me
My exact thoughts! I wholeheartedly agree.
Hey John, what about the soundtrack?
Was it good, better than Man of Steel?
Thanks!
I'm seeing this movie with my Dad for his birthday.
quick question for your spoiler review. would you have liked BVS more as a 2 parter? thank you, Mr. Campea
are you not on collider anymore?
No.
+SplungeKik Why isnt he?
+Licka Ginger He still comes out but he wants to try other things
enjoy5566 It's the movie show John is on. You're pretty behind. Like years behind.
Bravo review... I wish I was as good as you. Your opinions were so professional and well poised, keep this up and thank you for no spoilers!! Always will respect your opinion!
this movie may not suffer for Gal Gadot's acting, but will the wonder woman movie?
john keep up the great work.miss you at collider all the time but love your new stuff coming up !
Its 37% on rotten tomato as of now!! I don't get it, critics are bashing it everywhere?!!
Because its not the same type of movie that marvel makes. That is literally the case with a lot of reviews I've seen. "Not enough jokes" "too dark" "too much violence".
***** That was a time before marvel took over and hollywood had a hard on for Christopher Nolan
I know you can't really talk about it yet but was there more then 1 after credit scene ?
Sick of hearing about Rotten Tomatoes who gives a fuck what percentage it gets.....
+Cheddar Cheese Forget the reviews and watch the movie.
Rotten tomatoes are shit.
They rated superman returns higher than man of steel.
***** Good reviewers. Exactly. There's a difference. And personally John mimics my thoughts and feelings about movies sometimes.
This man is the best film critic working. John has different tastes than I do, but he is incredibly consistent in his reviews. I always want to know his thoughts, even though they are usually different than my own. Never change Campea, never change.
Lol the reviews I'm reading on rotten tomatoes are just weird. Hearing complaints it's too serious. Like it's being compared to Marvel movies. I know people were going to be ready to hate on this movie.
+ThatDopeChannel Everyone doesn't want funny superhero movies though. I know I don't. Everything doesn't have to be the same.
+ThatDopeChannel We all know DC was going to have darker and serious tone. Their animated movies are the same way in contrast to Marvel animated films. This is who DC is so I don't understand why people are shocked.
+ThatDopeChannel It doesn't mean the character has to be dark even though he's in a dark movie. Superman WAS Superman in this movie. The Punisher can be in a jokey lighter toned movie without changing who he is, the characters around him can, but he can still be the Punisher.
***** Who did he kill? He killed no one except for the dream sequence, don't try to slide that in there. To address the threats, Lex Luthor just threw Lois off a roof, in this more realistic take you expect him not to get angry at Lex? The only other threat was directed at Batman which helped fuel thier fued. He's made harsher threats in the comics, read one or two before you comment on the character.
Just came back from the cinema, and I am shocked to see that BvS is currently at 40% at RT. Did we see the same movie? I was expecting it to lay somewhere between 70 and 80%.
There's only ~30 reviews in right now, it will rise
wonder woman was fucking sick what r u on?
John I can't really remember your reactions after watching "Man of Steel" , but how would you compare your feelings for "BvS" to your feelings for "MoS" , just after you got out of the theatre?
I don't give a hot steaming pile of shit about Rotten Tomatoes. I don't rely on reviews to dictate my enjoyment or disappointment in anything music, movies, etc. It's ignorant and childish to do so
+Mindstorm Records Reviews don't dictate your enjoyment of anything.
They're simply a summation of everyone else's opinion.
and most of them disagree with you
Good review John! Got me really excited to see it, so far it's looking as good as it can get
fucking loved the movie. idk why ppl hate it xD nor will i argue with anyone since if u dont see it theirs no changing ur mind
John, after seeing BvS, do you still like Deadpool as your favorite superhero film of 2016?
I liked it too!!! Seeing it again asap.
Are you doing a Batman v Superman review with Collider?
I like it. 8/10 for me.
I agree, 8/10 is a good spot
I'm delighted that you liked it - i'm off to see it tomorrow and I can't wait! The overly negative reviews that i'd read seemed excessive almost to the point of cringe, so it's refreshing to hear this from you :)
spoiler alert bro: don't you think there might be a reason why critics and viewers are saying it's garbage? camper is suffering from phantom menace syndrome...I honestly think some you tubers are being paid by studios...it's clearly boring and a mess and wasted opportunity of a movie.
+Boilermaker I get you man, I do! But there's no way the movie angered people THAT much - some of the reactions are overly excessive. The movie is what it is - it's not good, but it's not offensive either and people need to chill the f** out :D
Patrick Corr sorry mate I waited over 20 years to see the JLA movie...you have to excuse me when it's not just a movie to me, I remember watching SuperFriends on saturday mornings. DC and the studios are just bad at their jobs. Anybody with love for this iconic team and brand would have done better without even trying. DC and Snyder made POOP...lol
You da man John, great review. Fuck rotten tomatoes.
+sonoman123 And Metacritic and Roger Ebert and IMDb etc.. ?? All are giving this movie bad reviews ..
Saw it at the Imax fan screening too! I agree they had the balls to do some things, specially the ending. Wonder woman's score was electric and her fighting badass! Solid 8.5 for me!
Gal Gadot was great. Don't listen to this man.
+Welsh Marvel If you don't believe his opinion why are you on this channel???
+Vlad Bayard what you just said makes no sense.
I can still watch the review and not agree with it numb nuts.
I appreciate you honest opinion John. Going with friends Saturday, cannot wait...but all the negativity had me concern. Hearing your review restores hope. I know you like Man of steel, as did I, so I think your review is closer to what I will feel. Thank you for sharing.
Just saw it, personally thought this movie was garbage.
4/10 :/
awww
+Pancake I thought the movie was fantastic. So there you go.
My big fat Greek wedding two is garbage. This movie has so much effort and detail poured into into it that it's maddening when people think THIS is garbage
+Zahinn Or maybe you can't comprehend SNYDER'S DEPTH. Because there's definitely depth in this movie. It's a very complex multi-layered movie.
Zahinn Agree to disagree. We all experience films differently and see things in certain films that other don't based on our own life experiences, our heart, our mind, and our own subjective tastes in film.
It's a solid film, if you ask me.
Great to know your first thoughts john, because, like you, I loved man of steel dispute it's problems. Friday just can't get here sooner.