Nice video, Numi. Some interesting points raised. Future value is an important consideration behind many of the coins that I choose to buy. Too many people get hung up about low mintages but they overlook that rarity is just one part of the puzzle, albeit an important part. For me, what makes a coin more valuable and desirable is the story behind it. For example, about three times as many 1989 Sovs were issued compared to the 1993 Sov, but today the 1989 Sov costs around four times the price of the 1993 Sov. Why? It’s the story e.g. 500th anniversary, first Sov in 100 years to feature a special design, awesome Tudor design etc. 1989 didn’t sell well originally but it has risen to become the most desired modern Sovereign and everyone wants one which keeps pushing the price up. I reckon lots of low mintage coins without a good supporting narrative that appeals widely won’t appreciate over time, and will only ever sell for melt in future. And as for the Sovs vs Britannias debate, my view is that Britannias will always be a poor relation to the Sovereign, largely because they simply can’t compete with the Sov’s rich history.
The value of the story is massive when it comes to modern coin’s. Iif there is nothing distinctive and the public imagination is not a captured then melt plus is the consequence. I think that in relation to Britannias there will be a period of five years or so and I see prices for 2012 and onwards brits rising and special design Brits rising. Although the Sovereign and has a very very much longer history and is much more widely known, I can see where people I know are starting to invest money in alternatives too.
I watched the crone video, I watch every video :) I like Brittannias. I'm not keen on all the silver coins that are released. I like some of the designs but i would rather save the money and get some gold. I do have a little bit of silver but I realised very early on it is over hyped. Interesting video.
First of all, the coins are beautiful. Thank you for sharing. Secondly, i think the limited mintage gold coins are the best investment. Just look at the Libertads. Semper Fi. Dave
Few rare gold coins from RCM are 2013 1/4 oz World Baseball Classic coins. Two types one sold total of 121 coins the second sold 133 coins. In a 1/2 oz version it only sold 129 coins. And in 2014 they issued a 1/10 oz gold coin with cougar that only sold 241 coins. Figures are from 2016 book on Canadian coins, Charlton Standard Catalogue vol. 2
Accumulation for me, pick some good designs with good stories in addition to keeping an eye on mintage. I also like regular bullion right now to push in case the premium coins don’t sell and sit. A good balance I like is 2:1 bullion to numismatic in terms of liquidity
Speaking of key date 2008 Perth Mint Lunar series coins, a significantly low mintage coin that still seems to be overlooked by many collectors is the 1 kilo proof silver....a truly stunning coin with a super low final mintage of only 171 coins ever produced. The proof kilo coins should never be mistaken for the bullion kilo coins which have no mintage limit....unlimited mintage for the bullion version. The 2008 proof kilo silver Mouse: ultra low mintage, awesome design, high quality, produced by world class mint, very popular series = a coin to covet.
Thanks for the vid Numi. I was just wondering this morning how I would buy my first gold and what I would buy. I’ve watched a few videos suggest investing in 100 oz of silver before buying gold. Or waiting until the gold-silver ratio is better. Still a bit confused on when it’s a good time. Lol
With the peace from north Korea as the deals go around shaking hands, No panic buying of pressures metals, I can see there maybe a steady drop in prices. I do wonder where the spike in fortune will hit next.
Very nice set. Been looking at getting a gold Oriental Britannia as i really like the look of them and thats one of the coins that got me to start collecting metals. But I see alot of people say about getting sovs which i may have to get instead as theyre cheaper. For a gold coin (and silver if you or others know ) what is classed as a low mintage and high mintage?
Hi Numi. Speaking of mintage rarities... Just tried to get a 2017 gold Dutch Lion Dollar tonight. It got pretty expensive so I lost. Went for $2700. Maybe I should have been willing to go higher considering the very low mintage and how attractive the coin is. Couple of months ago I picked up the 2017 gold 50 Pence Isaac Newton proof. What do you think about this one?
Price is everything on Gold 50p and Gold £2. They are safe to buy at £500 and this represents £250 or £300 loss on the RM price. Buy these coins 2nd hand at auction for the lowest loss and they become good mid term potential coins. Newton may do a bit better than average
Numistacker that would have been nice, but I bought it directly from the Royal Mint. Looked for it cheaper elsewhere but didn’t find it. Maybe I just didn’t look hard enough. I jumped on it quickly just because I thought the Newton one would have appeal some years from now and thought the 500 would sell out. Apparently they haven’t yet. But not a big concern. I’m happy to own it for a while.
Keep them as a medium term investment. I have not sold my silver or gold pandas but my buying has stopped or slowed while I balance with older material
Oh i need to flip them and sell them sometime soon, i have been told NGC would be better to send them to over PCGS, do you agree with that? Also what platform would be the best to sell them on? Thanks again
Brittania silver proofs are more popular. I do have 1/4oz proof Gold Britannia. I first started collecting Silver. But now pretty much All Gold. Gold Buffaloes. Likem
I see that some dealers have the bullion version of the 1 oz gold (2008, 1988, 1999), are those not worth collecting? There are some nice designs but not cheap. Good video. Edit. Just found this. www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/gold_coin_mintage. Am I reading this correct? They can go back and mint the 2001 1 oz gold BU Britannia (as an example)? Yeah, no thanks. Lol
@Numistacker - a question if I may , sir Is it always best to pay a smallish price premium and get the Proof version of a coin , or sometimes is the Bullion version going to have lower mintage and therefore be ultimately rarer / more valuable even though lower quality?? I understand of course that larger Price premiums for Proof coins is a different separate issue of itself. Thanks !
With us coins that have equal mintage sometimes the bu version has fewer sales but most collectors want the proof. I bought a us proof once this year but generally you will lose on both versions if bought new from the mint.
I many ways I prefer the Britannia to sovereigns , for the alternative designs and proofs they tend to be far cheaper than sovereigns and have more more different designs. I go for the 1/4 Oz as they same dimensions as as a sovereign. Sshhhh numi don't tell anyone about them until I have got all the back catalogue
Nice video, Numi. Some interesting points raised. Future value is an important consideration behind many of the coins that I choose to buy. Too many people get hung up about low mintages but they overlook that rarity is just one part of the puzzle, albeit an important part. For me, what makes a coin more valuable and desirable is the story behind it. For example, about three times as many 1989 Sovs were issued compared to the 1993 Sov, but today the 1989 Sov costs around four times the price of the 1993 Sov. Why? It’s the story e.g. 500th anniversary, first Sov in 100 years to feature a special design, awesome Tudor design etc. 1989 didn’t sell well originally but it has risen to become the most desired modern Sovereign and everyone wants one which keeps pushing the price up.
I reckon lots of low mintage coins without a good supporting narrative that appeals widely won’t appreciate over time, and will only ever sell for melt in future. And as for the Sovs vs Britannias debate, my view is that Britannias will always be a poor relation to the Sovereign, largely because they simply can’t compete with the Sov’s rich history.
The value of the story is massive when it comes to modern coin’s. Iif there is nothing distinctive and the public imagination is not a captured then melt plus is the consequence. I think that in relation to Britannias there will be a period of five years or so and I see prices for 2012 and onwards brits rising and special design Brits rising. Although the Sovereign and has a very very much longer history and is much more widely known, I can see where people I know are starting to invest money in alternatives too.
I watched the crone video, I watch every video :)
I like Brittannias. I'm not keen on all the silver coins that are released. I like some of the designs but i would rather save the money and get some gold. I do have a little bit of silver but I realised very early on it is over hyped.
Interesting video.
First of all, the coins are beautiful. Thank you for sharing. Secondly, i think the limited mintage gold coins are the best investment. Just look at the Libertads. Semper Fi. Dave
Thanks for sharing vs you i bought the 17 quarter oz only gold britannas i have except silver ones i like the big 5 oz ones
Fractional proof gold is always a fantastic opportunity for truly rare coins, stackers hate them because of the high premiums relative to weight
Few rare gold coins from RCM are 2013 1/4 oz World Baseball Classic coins. Two types one sold total of 121 coins the second sold 133 coins. In a 1/2 oz version it only sold 129 coins. And in 2014 they issued a 1/10 oz gold coin with cougar that only sold 241 coins. Figures are from 2016 book on Canadian coins, Charlton Standard Catalogue vol. 2
Accumulation for me, pick some good designs with good stories in addition to keeping an eye on mintage. I also like regular bullion right now to push in case the premium coins don’t sell and sit. A good balance I like is 2:1 bullion to numismatic in terms of liquidity
Good advice Numi
Speaking of key date 2008 Perth Mint Lunar series coins, a significantly low mintage coin that still seems to be overlooked by many collectors is the 1 kilo proof silver....a truly stunning coin with a super low final mintage of only 171 coins ever produced.
The proof kilo coins should never be mistaken for the bullion kilo coins which have no mintage limit....unlimited mintage for the bullion version.
The 2008 proof kilo silver Mouse: ultra low mintage, awesome design, high quality, produced by world class mint, very popular series = a coin to covet.
The older Perth material is actually very rare and even Lunar 2 mouse ox and rabbit may be underpriced
Nice video. Have a few 1/10 oz Brits.
Thanks for the vid Numi. I was just wondering this morning how I would buy my first gold and what I would buy. I’ve watched a few videos suggest investing in 100 oz of silver before buying gold. Or waiting until the gold-silver ratio is better. Still a bit confused on when it’s a good time. Lol
Buy Silver with potential as usual not sure of the merits of buying silver just to take advantage of the silver gold ratio arguement .
Thanks for taking the time to reply Numi 😊
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With the peace from north Korea as the deals go around shaking hands, No panic buying of pressures metals, I can see there maybe a steady drop in prices. I do wonder where the spike in fortune will hit next.
Very nice set. Been looking at getting a gold Oriental Britannia as i really like the look of them and thats one of the coins that got me to start collecting metals. But I see alot of people say about getting sovs which i may have to get instead as theyre cheaper. For a gold coin (and silver if you or others know ) what is classed as a low mintage and high mintage?
Low mintage 300 high mintage 30,000? Any takers?
Hi Numi. Speaking of mintage rarities... Just tried to get a 2017 gold Dutch Lion Dollar tonight. It got pretty expensive so I lost. Went for $2700. Maybe I should have been willing to go higher considering the very low mintage and how attractive the coin is.
Couple of months ago I picked up the 2017 gold 50 Pence Isaac Newton proof. What do you think about this one?
Price is everything on Gold 50p and Gold £2. They are safe to buy at £500 and this represents £250 or £300 loss on the RM price. Buy these coins 2nd hand at auction for the lowest loss and they become good mid term potential coins. Newton may do a bit better than average
Numistacker that would have been nice, but I bought it directly from the Royal Mint. Looked for it cheaper elsewhere but didn’t find it. Maybe I just didn’t look hard enough. I jumped on it quickly just because I thought the Newton one would have appeal some years from now and thought the 500 would sell out. Apparently they haven’t yet.
But not a big concern. I’m happy to own it for a while.
Excellent video, keep it up,
Great gold coins, i would love your opinion on what to do with the 1998 gold and silver pandas that i recently picked up. Take care
Keep them as a medium term investment. I have not sold my silver or gold pandas but my buying has stopped or slowed while I balance with older material
Oh i need to flip them and sell them sometime soon, i have been told NGC would be better to send them to over PCGS, do you agree with that? Also what platform would be the best to sell them on? Thanks again
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Numi my local coin shop has an 1899 and 1900 sovereign. I’m not knowledgeable on these coins
They are both likely to be bullion but amazing condition is usually worth a small premium
Brittania silver proofs are more popular. I do have 1/4oz proof Gold Britannia. I first started collecting Silver. But now pretty much All Gold. Gold Buffaloes. Likem
I see that some dealers have the bullion version of the 1 oz gold (2008, 1988, 1999), are those not worth collecting? There are some nice designs but not cheap. Good video. Edit. Just found this. www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/gold_coin_mintage. Am I reading this correct? They can go back and mint the 2001 1 oz gold BU Britannia (as an example)? Yeah, no thanks. Lol
@Numistacker - a question if I may , sir
Is it always best to pay a smallish price premium and get the Proof version of a coin , or sometimes is the Bullion version going to have lower mintage and therefore be ultimately rarer / more valuable even though lower quality??
I understand of course that larger Price premiums for Proof coins is a different separate issue of itself. Thanks !
With us coins that have equal mintage sometimes the bu version has fewer sales but most collectors want the proof. I bought a us proof once this year but generally you will lose on both versions if bought new from the mint.
I bought an 1820 closed 2 XF45 for 800PDS, wonder if I overpaid.
Mike Dennington a good price
I many ways I prefer the Britannia to sovereigns , for the alternative designs and proofs they tend to be far cheaper than sovereigns and have more more different designs. I go for the 1/4 Oz as they same dimensions as as a sovereign. Sshhhh numi don't tell anyone about them until I have got all the back catalogue
Quite a few people are building this collection right now it seems
Very nice set must be nice to afford them especially gold how much does one of them cost anyways thank you for sharing
My guess is $400 to $450
Lots of those rare coins. Dunno if they are worth it. I just buy what I like and can afford.
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