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SLAVES TO DARKNESS 2022 - Battletome REVIEW - Chaos Warriors will never die!

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  • Опубліковано 19 сер 2024

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  • @TheHonestWargamer
    @TheHonestWargamer  Рік тому +6

    Some units weren't fully revealed when we made this so the rest of them are reviewed in the video - ua-cam.com/video/86BNIj9SrWs/v-deo.html

  • @jeremyhauck960
    @jeremyhauck960 Рік тому +86

    Not only does the man invent painting, but he invented reading a book and talking about it. The man cannot be stopped

    • @BlastastiC
      @BlastastiC Рік тому +8

      It's outrageous! Surprised Spikey Bits haven't put out a hit piece on him yet. "Some have questioned his reading abilities"

    • @Crimzy2304
      @Crimzy2304 Рік тому +3

      🤣💀

    • @fmalch1209
      @fmalch1209 Рік тому

      Watch out. Next he'll invent onlyfans.

    • @jonathandavis4819
      @jonathandavis4819 Рік тому

      Left to right. Got it.

  • @Labadamier
    @Labadamier Рік тому +58

    Excited to see this review from the guy who invented painting miniatures!

  • @TheHonestWargamer
    @TheHonestWargamer  Рік тому +17

    The link to the images is in the description. Really hope you like the review and excited to hear your thoughts!?

    • @ROBFACED
      @ROBFACED Рік тому

      Thanks Rob, great round up!

    • @Ephigy17
      @Ephigy17 Рік тому

      Stonks to Darkness

    • @cameronthompson1943
      @cameronthompson1943 Рік тому

      Thank you Rob! This is fantastic. I would love to hear your in-depth thoughts on the new Tzeentch now that the dust has settled a bit as well. Keep on killing it with the great content!

  • @Dje1025
    @Dje1025 Рік тому +16

    Nurgle who loves standing and Slaanesh who loves love.
    Poetry.

  • @rhetorictheentertainer1072
    @rhetorictheentertainer1072 Рік тому +11

    Probably one of the best battletome reads I have ever seen nice job bro

  • @Crimzy2304
    @Crimzy2304 Рік тому +7

    *WRITERS HATE HIM!!!* How an unlikely bro from England invented painting and reading a book
    I love you Rob ❤️

  • @SkinJob1062
    @SkinJob1062 Рік тому +1

    I'm glad I found your UA-cam page. I used to watch all of your game narrations when you used to do commentary for the Warhammer Twitch games. Also thanks for the additional input while doing this batteltome review. I am currently fielding an all-Ogroid army just for giggles and grins. The addition of an Ogroid Thaumaturge has really helped my "glass cannon" army for my casual play game wins.

  • @danielcraine120
    @danielcraine120 Рік тому +3

    Rob invented editing. He cannot be stopped

  • @andrewsimmons2711
    @andrewsimmons2711 Рік тому +14

    6 hours cut down to 2! You're an editing wizard

  • @RidgeHanna
    @RidgeHanna Рік тому

    Best in the biz, folks. I've read the tome over a bunch and your takes and talks on synergy continue to be second to none! Video format is *Chef's Kiss* Thanks for all the time you put in brother

  • @zebposada
    @zebposada Рік тому +1

    Bolstered by Chaos + Despoilers + Mark of Khorne = Dameon Prince with 14 wounds saving 3+ and healing while killing. Nice.

  • @goatforcemcgoat8233
    @goatforcemcgoat8233 Рік тому +3

    Those Chosen seem to be GW really nailing how to do elite infantry! They seem terrifying!

    • @minacapella8319
      @minacapella8319 Рік тому +1

      They're absolutely insane. Expensive points wise, but, bonkers enough to justify it.

    • @liveanotheranime3526
      @liveanotheranime3526 Рік тому +1

      Just got started with Slaves to Darkness as a small side project. First browsed and went wow 240 points for that is good! Then realized that was for 5 and 480 points for the unit of 10. 😅

    • @minacapella8319
      @minacapella8319 Рік тому

      @@liveanotheranime3526 ...it's still very worth. The unit is an absolute terror.

  • @Vaalrik
    @Vaalrik Рік тому +1

    Curious to hear what people think regarding the optimum unit size for Chosen. Currently building my FOMO box, and stuck on wether or not to run two units of 5 or a big death star blob of ten.
    Collected for years, but haven’t played much Sigmar. Excited to try and dive into it with the new book for my favorite army.
    Thank you for the awesome review Rob!

  • @Ephigy17
    @Ephigy17 Рік тому +2

    Thanks, Rob! Amazing review!

  • @mattsano-theswordntherose4688

    Thanks so much! I'm going to miss my re-roll saves of 1, and re-roll hits and wounds but I'm ridiculously excited that the warriors are back! \m/

  • @SuperCosmicSpaceMagnet
    @SuperCosmicSpaceMagnet Рік тому +1

    Chariots being battleline is so dang fun. I'd love to do an entirely chariot army with different conversions for every mark, I'm just scared one battletome will come along and un-battleline them to make the army illegal :(

  • @nurglematthew893
    @nurglematthew893 Рік тому +2

    Nice work, Grot Gang !

  • @ryanrimmer599
    @ryanrimmer599 Рік тому

    Great video really helps with army selection.

  • @millenniumxdtvmediaandarts1679

    by my will is still good for Varangaurd. Since they can only pile in twice once per battle.

  • @seanhaigh1886
    @seanhaigh1886 Рік тому

    Great effort with editing Rob, love the review and you beat the NDA crew

  • @whenry369
    @whenry369 Рік тому +3

    The slaughter brute is absolute trash, AND YET whenever I have brought one along it's never failed to kill it's points back and then a little. And it's a great distraction piece.

    • @TheHonestWargamer
      @TheHonestWargamer  Рік тому +1

      WHAT ARE YOU PLAYING AGAINST??? GNOMES!?

    • @davidwasilewski
      @davidwasilewski Рік тому

      @@TheHonestWargamer no, Gors…. 😂

    • @whenry369
      @whenry369 Рік тому

      @The Honest Wargammer preferably something squishy. I put him on the flank I intend to immediately abandon with a babysitter. He only needs to kill 200pts to earn his points back.

  • @robertof.5283
    @robertof.5283 Рік тому

    Slaughterbrute was for me Always No Option. Because the MVB is absolute stunning beautiful crazy cool hot model and wins the rule of cool without competitors.

  • @RyanForT3hWin
    @RyanForT3hWin Рік тому +3

    Early test games in my shop running varanguard... have been very short.

  • @sz88tam
    @sz88tam Рік тому

    Hello there!
    My community keeps saying I cant use the Bloodsecrator and Bloodbound friends to buff up my STD army 😂😂😂 the claim the Khorne FAQ removes this option… but great review again, thank you! 🎉🎉🎉

  • @scorpioncm7021
    @scorpioncm7021 Рік тому +1

    Are there any ways besides mystic shield, All-out-Defence and finest Hour, to get an + 1 to Save Rolls for the new slaves to darkness?

  • @passaspliff7330
    @passaspliff7330 Рік тому +1

    Legion for life 🤘🏼
    Belakor and the furies will rule all the realms!!!

  • @scr1vo
    @scr1vo Рік тому +2

    Can't wait to watch this early review from my favourite content creator named Rob (Sorry, not sorry Rob B).

  • @reflexdogtraining1337
    @reflexdogtraining1337 Рік тому +1

    3rd listen, brother. Cheers 🍻 👏 ✌️

    • @TheHonestWargamer
      @TheHonestWargamer  Рік тому

      Happy it's good

    • @reflexdogtraining1337
      @reflexdogtraining1337 Рік тому

      @The Honest Wargamer dude. YOU'RE GOOD. Keep crushing. Take it all over. Be the #1 wargame hub. Have a battle with Vince. He'll definitely say "sure."

  • @Turtlesism
    @Turtlesism Рік тому +3

    4+ Rally is a big nerf to anything that tries to shoot you for certain. You're looking at melee to kill these things and you need to be able to stand in combat against their swings back at you.

  • @swaggyshadow2124
    @swaggyshadow2124 Рік тому +1

    Perfection

  • @cmleibenguth
    @cmleibenguth Рік тому

    "Buy new Chaos Warrior, Knight, Chosen, and Lords"
    "Play Everchosen"
    The book's subliminal marketing messaging

  • @Buckshot81
    @Buckshot81 Рік тому

    For Cabalists I would suggest that as it says 'they become Wizards' superceeds 'cast like a Wizard'?

  • @acrosstheabyss9371
    @acrosstheabyss9371 Рік тому +1

    So if I wanted to take coalition StD in my Hedonites force, they wouldn't be able to make Mark of Chaos into Slaanesh since its not a Slaves to Darkness Army?

  • @TakaRai7
    @TakaRai7 Рік тому

    6+ (targeted lol)Spell ignore on Tzeentch, but also a teleport that you can move afterwards that is not wholly within. There's some tech there

  • @olafolafsson2755
    @olafolafsson2755 Рік тому +2

    Meanwhile the ogre book just drops with nobody noticin cuz slaves to darkness hype and a zilion 40k news on the warhammercommunity side

  • @Poteon155
    @Poteon155 Рік тому +1

    Just to clarified, when you mention the Chaos Chosen bomb, you point out Bloodsacrator for his buff, how does that work, he work only for BoC unit no? Or do I missing something

    • @TheHonestWargamer
      @TheHonestWargamer  Рік тому

      Since then that's been faqd. As not working

    • @Poteon155
      @Poteon155 Рік тому

      @@TheHonestWargamer could it still work other way around,khorn chosen in BoK ?
      Or do they lose the bonus from mark of khorn if they get allyed in to blades?

  • @azoxystrobin
    @azoxystrobin Рік тому

    I suppose it's good that the marauder hossbois aren't quite as good as they are now; they currently debuff bravery. Chaos Knights also lost that.
    I think the slaughterbrute is a really bad sign for Khorne, it kind of demonstrates that they still don't have any inspired ideas for Khorne, it's still just "moar attac"
    I would have liked to have seen how the mindstealer sphiranx was updated, I just painted mine up for Khorne, so I hope they haven't gone and invalidated it.

  • @l.christoffersen7502
    @l.christoffersen7502 Рік тому +1

    looks quite fluffy

  • @joshh266
    @joshh266 Рік тому +1

    Empty throne seems a lot worse than before

  • @equos5060
    @equos5060 Рік тому

    Holy crap, why all of this has to be so complicated...? 20 minutes in and my brain hurts already

  • @MrSweetiebear95
    @MrSweetiebear95 Рік тому

    Is it worth taking Knights of the empty throne and not taking a Varanguard general? Getting ready for a Path to Glory and the multi model thing doesnt mesh with the Warlord rules.

  • @WATOKALA
    @WATOKALA Рік тому

    Um so with a warlord trait and relic
    You can have fights 1st and twice demon prince?

  • @marcinstangel9277
    @marcinstangel9277 Рік тому

    God I want the Mutalith beast for my Disciples of Tzeentch now !!!. What would you recommend as a coalition uint for Magottkin ? Chaos Warriors or Varanguard ?

    • @TheHonestWargamer
      @TheHonestWargamer  Рік тому +1

      The demon prince. You have nurgle units that do what warriors and knights do already

  • @CCRexKanin
    @CCRexKanin Рік тому

    Idk why you would take ensorcelled warhammer on the Doom knight in chaos knights. Less attacks than lance, worse range, same hit and wound profile as lance, and lance gets even better on charge

  • @kangtheknightx
    @kangtheknightx Рік тому

    Varanguard 4+ Rally.
    "Lol"
    Cant wait to shove 6-9 into my enemy just to wreck face and bring them back after fighting twice with Khorne Mark.

  • @gwell2118
    @gwell2118 Рік тому

    FAQ dropped recently. Some major changes.

  • @nandinokrimmer2168
    @nandinokrimmer2168 Рік тому +1

    Slabs to darkness? "or slaves to chop?

  • @thehonestaspy102
    @thehonestaspy102 Рік тому +1

    Would the Warshrine not give itself the +6 Ward too making it a little more survivable?

  • @mchup40
    @mchup40 Рік тому

    How do you get 4 monsters in a list? I’m looking at line breaker and it only allows you to take 3

  • @---dn1fl
    @---dn1fl Рік тому

    Archie looks so busted. If you can't muck him up with a mountain of cheap screens , he's gonna just wreck face.
    Some rough mathhammer has him basically never dying to even some of the strongest hammers in the game, especially so with Mark of Nurgle.

    • @TheHonestWargamer
      @TheHonestWargamer  Рік тому

      Is that in one go or over the course of the game?

    • @---dn1fl
      @---dn1fl Рік тому

      @@TheHonestWargamer Honestly? Probably even over the course of the game given his healing potential.
      I don't think this means he'll necessarily be able to go fully buck wild without support and not die in every matchups but I think he's going to be functionally unkillable against many armies and will required sustained beat down from some of the heaviest hammers in the game to die against the armies that can.
      Max sized unit of fulminators on the charge with AOA doesn't kill Regular Archie, assuming Archie has either best day ever or AOD, which is pretty safe to assume he'll have one or the other, and that's probably about the hardest hitting thing in the game on the charge barring maybe some of the new Khorne meme hammers from this book.
      You're gonna need stuff that can really put the DPS down over multiple combats and hope he can't heal through.
      A smart Archie player can easily use something to screen and disrupt some of this damage too and prevent him from dying most games.
      Nurgle Marked Archie in Particular is especially heinous, lol.

  • @l337haxz0rn00b
    @l337haxz0rn00b Рік тому +1

    Warp reality through a spell portal for a 18+9 inch teleport before you move.

  • @TombKingTristan
    @TombKingTristan Рік тому +1

    Excited to be view 1000

  • @Johnnyfarmuk
    @Johnnyfarmuk Рік тому

    Legend

  • @HypnoKraken
    @HypnoKraken Рік тому +2

    very pog STD

  • @deliciousrelish
    @deliciousrelish Рік тому

    This tome was definitely not s tier at the end.

  • @lestrike2707
    @lestrike2707 Рік тому

    I hate that nurgle gets the best effects all the time. I despise nurgle and refuse to use the freakin mark.

  • @grimgar3048
    @grimgar3048 Рік тому

    Thanks for this Rob, was a great watch - question to any willing to answer, is there a difference between "your" combat phase and "the" combat phase?

    • @liamdurr
      @liamdurr Рік тому +2

      "The" is anyone's combat phase
      "Yours" is just in your turn

  • @jdrpodcast6390
    @jdrpodcast6390 Рік тому +1

    Too bad the Eye of Sheerian doesn't seem to work if you coalition Archaon in Nurgle/Slaanesh/Khorne or Tzeentch as it mentions i"if Archaon is in a Slaves to Darkness Army". Like you are paying the same amount of points but lose one of the key abilities of the model. Bit of a shame.

    • @TheHonestWargamer
      @TheHonestWargamer  Рік тому +1

      I like that. Im not sure I even like allies tbh

    • @seanocd
      @seanocd Рік тому

      Nah, that's as it should be.
      Otherwise we risk going straight back to Archaon being better as an allied unit than he is in his own faction.

  • @40KWill
    @40KWill Рік тому +1

    I can't say how much I don't want to play against this. Not because it is broken but because it is a literal bookkeeping nightmare.

  • @thomasderaines5075
    @thomasderaines5075 Рік тому +1

    its sad that slaves are better at khorne than blades are lmao

  • @xgeekiexD
    @xgeekiexD Рік тому

    Wish when skaven get there new book they get some love like this

    • @joelviedmacastro
      @joelviedmacastro Рік тому +1

      Didn’t they just get a 3.0 book

    • @xgeekiexD
      @xgeekiexD Рік тому

      It was basically the same I have both books they only changed like 5 to 10 percent of the rules and models and ether it was really good or huge nerfs for no reason

  • @Nodonn
    @Nodonn Рік тому

    Votann to Darkness. So we all just gonna take a break when it releases til the nerf? Conquest is pretty great.

    • @Lokd0wn
      @Lokd0wn Рік тому

      How is this even in the same league (heh) as the Votann book?
      Basically no shooting, magic can be cranked but it's risky and to hit debuffs really hurt them.
      I'm not saying it isn't a strong book, and I'd say that the 4+ Rally is a bit much. But your comparison is pretty hyperbolic.

    • @kangtheknightx
      @kangtheknightx Рік тому

      Big fan of Conquest as well, but S2D is nowhere near as bad as Votann. They seem really strong and will be a big impact on the meta.

    • @davedoffing8259
      @davedoffing8259 Рік тому +1

      @@Lokd0wn Each unit is 10% better than their counterparts. This army will be 65% win rate easy. Come back here in 3 months and comment.

    • @Nodonn
      @Nodonn Рік тому

      @@davedoffing8259 I'm going with 62% at 60 days, price is right rules.

    • @davedoffing8259
      @davedoffing8259 Рік тому

      @@Nodonn I was thinking 70% but was also using Price is Right rules.

  • @mathiasikit
    @mathiasikit Рік тому

    What a babe.

  • @cannedsnow4511
    @cannedsnow4511 Рік тому

    shame the knights lost their old hand weapons