I am a commercial beekeeper running over 1000 hives. From 60 hives you cannot make honey for 100 stores. Hi imports or buys honey wholesale and repackages selling as an expensive brand.
Agree, I run 600 colonies and his math does not add up. This video is misleading. If you are thinking about getting rich quick on beekeeping, be careful because you will likely lose a lot of money.
@@mikleach How do you manage to run 600 colonies? Do you employ helpers? Beekeeping is one of the hardest farming and requires huge amount of knowledge.
There are no rules, the 60 colonies are just for show. Taking care of thousands of colonies would only eat up all his time. He let's you do that and he buys honey wholesale and focuses his efforts on selling at retail.
Could someone please explain what I am missing? Early in the video it was stated that they are @ $250,000 in revenue just six months into this year. The price per pound of honey on the high side is $20 and one hive averages around 80lbs of honey per year. The owner has 62 hives which translates to just shy of $100,000 in revenue for an entire year. I watched the entire video and I cannot figure out what I am missing.
Yeah, I think that is misleading in the title and I never heard 41k per month mentioned in the video and don't think it's anywhere near possible with just 62 hives. I'm at about the same number of hives and I'm nowhere near even the $150,000. Granted I'm still scaling so just because I have around 60-70 hives, doesn't mean they're all production hives yet. (Meaning not all hives are bringing in excess Honey yet). Location plays a lot too. I might get 50-60 pounds per hive average on a decent year. This year was horrible for Honey production and I'm only getting around 400-500 pounds total (still processing the Honey at the moment). There are other ways to make money in beekeeping as someone below already mentioned. You can sell Pollen, wax, propolis, royal jelly and even bees. (Queens, package bees and Nucs (nucleus colonies), as well as pollination services. I sell a few Nucs but I think I might hold off until I scale larger because I'm only selling around $2,000-$4,000 in bees per year when I could be putting those bees to work and grow my apiary. I'm still growing it, but just not as fast because of selling some of the bees off. There is good money in selling bees, but it's a lot easier to do when you've already hit your target number. Because at that point, every new colony made is excess and can be sold off without slowing down the business plan. The quicker you can get to a larger number of colonies, the quicker you're making better money. I did decide to stay steady this year though because last year I took a beating just trying to keep up. I went up to 75 colonies and wasn't ready for it. I didn't have my boxes built so I was constantly playing catch up through out the year. I also work a full time job (I just can't afford to quit no matter how much better it would help me run my bee business). I need to get to where I want to be first before I can quit. Trying to work full time and sell Honey any time I wasn't working, as well as building equipment, really took a toll on me. So 2024 was a year to hold steady and catch my balance so to speak. I'll plan to grow to 100-125 colonies next year. In my opinion, I won't be looking at decent money until I get to around 200-300 colonies.
250k/year with 61 hives? 😂 I own 130 hives (7 years of experience) and barely make 80-90k/year in a good year. So stop lying to others because maybe there are some readers who want to start bussiness like this.
Every video they have looks like they are selling 10x more profits than reality . So many peoples lives have been destroyed bc of videos like this . May more than benefited anyway . Thanks for your professional perspective. I pray your good intentions help your income and business grow . Thanks for helping all those you help regularly bc of what you do daily my good man.
He must do different math than me. When he says he gets 100lbs per hive on a good year and sells for 20 dollars a pound. Simple math says thats less than half the 250k, and im pretty sure those numbers dont account for expenses.
Hard to believe , especially with the diseases that kills the beehives ( varoises disease) and pests . God bless you guys . Greetings from an agricultural technician
Yep. There was some creative editing from them here that cut out when I explained this. I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us.
I am from Portugal and i also have cork trees (and bees). I was so happy to hear the word Portugal on your video. Also happy about the possibility that some of my cork might be used on your honney jars. Let me invite you to come to Portugal and see our bees and cork trees in real. Hugs fom Portugal.
It's impossible to do in USA according to BeeFit girl. She has about 50 hives and has to work somewhere else to make a living. The guy maybe gets a lot of grants as a veteran.
he says in a "good" year he can make 1000$/hive per year , and he also said this year he already made 250000 dollars which sounds a little sus with only 68 hives
@@Userxyz-z2dI agree as a commercial beekeeper and he lies about the floral sources he has in the Carolinas and buys a lot of honey and is really only in three grocery stores
Its not about # of hives. Its about revenue. There was some creative editing from them here that cut out when I explained this. I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us.
Lots of misinformation here.... 500 dollars to start? Well he stated he bought two packages of bees at 150 each, leaving 200 for everything else. The price of boxes, frames, gloves, smoker, beesuit, hive tool etc. is much more than 200 dollars. He said he gets 1000 dollars a hive a year. He has 62 hives, so the maximum he could get is 62,000 in a year. Your title says he gets 41,000 a month. This is very dangerous to misinform people about very important details.
I agree. They cut a lot of that out of my interview because it was just too much. I have kept the processing costs down by making do with inefficient equipment, and using a USDA Value Added Producer Grant to cut the costs of my bottles and such.
Did honey for the purpose of having greet pollinators for all varieties of trees. Found like anything to turn out great it takes work (and lots of money to get started. I give this "story" a C for effort. Eighty pounds per hive. What were they, the size of a hundred gallon barrel!
I wonder if his calculation is based on high side of 100 pounds per hive on 2 harvests of June and October (5 months?) or 200 pounds per hive per year or 12,800 pounds at $20 per pound or $248,000. Maybe his price per pound is more than $20?... So $41K over 6 months per month possibly makes sense... but not $41K per month over 12 months... UpFlip should give further clarification...
Yah like verification of income & receipts. I think what hes doing is buying honey from other Beeks. So hes spending $248,000 to make $250,000, its the Corp nonsense.
I would say that this was misrepresented on income. 61 hives all 61 productive each super at 35 lbs max weight you would have to get 3 full supers per hive. That is only 6100 lbs of honey this would only be $54,000 gross income. Then stating a hive cost is $50 including frames again is not a realistic price. There is Bottle cost, label cost, labor cost. Honey is only 15% of a bee business. You have to split into Nucs and sell bee nucs and packages to reach these numbers. The income numbers vs cost numbers don't add up to the numbers expressed . They would have to be buying and processing honey from other sources as well , selling bees and again 100 nucs is only an income of 24,000. So to reach the numbers expressed there is much more going on that is not being told
Yep. There was some creative editing from them here that cut out when I explained this. I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us.
@@Userxyz-z2d Yep. There was some creative editing from them here that cut out when I explained this. I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us. But my stated profit margin is accurate.
To mitigate winter losses theres a grant you can get for a hoophouse/greenhouse, leave the hoops up all year and throw poly over the hives when temps start to drop.
I got into beekeeping years ago, but got burned out because I was collecting colonies by performing cut-outs. I may revisit this again next Spring. I actually have a colony in our old house - I'll collect swarms from this and nearby hives, then perhaps requeen them.
I burned myself out also my first trip in Beekeeping cuz I'd run everywhere cutting out bees. Got out for 5 year, now restarted with 1 package. Split it to 5 by winter. Used super insulated hives, 3" PSE foam board, went 5 for 5 in a mild michigan winter. Managed the hives for mites by Don Fat beeman technique of fogging with mineral oil & spearmint/wintergreen, manage hive beetles with peppermint candy. Hives are booming. I would only do a cutout now to help a desperate person, cuz I never charged anyone. they are the most expensive bees you can get. Start small & focused & grow as you can afford & manage.
I’ve tried for 4 years to start a bee hive. Unfortunately I have not had success. It’s sad and each year is a new problem. Hopefully this year my bees will make it. Research research research. In the end though sometime that hasn’t been enough.
@@dogblackprincehoneyI don’t know, I went out one day and all of them were just gone. I’d like to think they are somewhere they think is better and are happy.
Yep. There was some creative editing from them here that cut out when I explained this. I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us.
IDK I havent watched this yet but I was driving around in the hills near me in SoCal and came across a honey farm on google maps... Did some research and they do $2M a year. Not bad for a small biz honey farm!
I own bees. I think the average beekeeper nets around $70 per beehive per year if they are doing a good job. If he's actually netting more than $5k he's doing a great job.
Y’all don’t listen he said he has contracts with grocery stores for his product. The one store he said he went from 60 to 160 stores, blah blah blah blah blah blah these contracts pay in a lot of cases upfront and you can say he’s making the money if he has a contract You can’t look at how many hives he has and how much he’s making a year right now he may be anticipating having more hives. You know he’s giving you figures right now with the amount of product he’s making right now, but that doesn’t mean he’s not gonna upscale quit bashing people.
This episode was so helpful! I have questions specifically about that $20k honey pour set-up. I hand pour fudge and my neck and shoulders are killing me. Can the honey stay in there for a long time? Do you think chocolate sauce could work in that? I have to bring it up to a boil but then maybe pour it into that to keep the right temp. This is the main thing stopping me from scaling my biz. Thank you for sharing so much already!
Thrilled to hear the episode was helpful for you! Have you considered consulting with a equipment specialist or maybe testing it out on a smaller scale first? Keep pushing forward with your biz-you've got this! 💪
One colony of bees for me was $180 and my hives were $250 and my bee suit was $100. I bought 4 colonies and 3 died within the first year. Plus the pollen patties and mite killer and tools and extras all add up. They make it seem very inexpensive in this video but my experience has been a very expensive endeavor.
All his expenses need to be doubled. 50$ for a bottom deep and super is crazy. closer to $100-$125. Not to mention most keepers run double deeps and hopefully double supers.
As a long time hobby beekeeper; honey bees need resorces to produce a good crop of honey. Where is he located and more importantly what pollin and nector is located within fivee miles of his bees?
I enjoyed watching this wonderful movie and welcome you to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Thank you to the photography team and my beekeeping friends. It is truly worth admiring and sharing
creating merchandise such as t-shirts and candy made from honey. Additionally, offering pre-made iced honey tea could significantly boost profits. Documenting the entire process through a UA-cam channel could also help build credibility and attract a following.
Step one: be able to afford a home with land. Or just a home with big enough space.. Unfortunately for those who haven’t bought a home yet it’s ridiculously increasing in price every year. Many can’t afford housing anymore
It’s tough out there, but staying informed and planning carefully can help navigate these rising costs. Keep pushing forward and exploring your options! 💪
To get into big grocery stores was it your premium product or lower price? When you state 40% margin are you stating net proceeds? Are you surrounded by agricultural land and if so, does their pest control negatively affect your bees? I am surrounded by working land; a big dairy to the west, corn, sugar beets, mint and wheat. Does their programs of agricultural land use make bee keeping harder or easier?
Appreciate the questions! To answer the first one, getting into big grocery stores usually depends on a combination of factors like the quality of your product, pricing strategy, and sometimes relationships with buyers.
Hes probably buying honey from other beeks. Quality control is hard to monitor & I suspect at some point the Govt will step in bc many Beeks feed their bees sugar so the honey they produce is Franken honey. Oversight is def needed in this industry.
Hi you say you only extract twice a year, why only twice a year? Here in Queensland Australia when my dad had 12x full size 9 frame hives he would extract every 4 weeks sometimes he would have to do it every 3 weeks for 1 full 9 frame Super or they would build up into the lid.. + Harvesting typically takes place in spring and summer for us which is September to April/May that's like 9 times a year or more.. unless your adding multiple + supers per hive ?
62 hives Keep in mind this. 41k/month title say. That’s about 20 dollars as he say per kg ( to say so ) this mean you make 2000kg / month honey. Things did not add up mate. Do bees for 20 years. Never come up such things Or title is wrong. 😂😂😂😂
Maybe consider exploring online platforms, farmers' markets, or local collaborations to get your product out there. Wishing you all the best in your journey! 🍯🐝
@@UpFlip Can you clarify the revenue numbers everyone is asking about in the comments. The math doesn’t seem to math. Just lay out the calculations for us like we’re children (even though some of us have accounting degrees!!)
For such a remarkable beekeeper, he sure is unknown in the beekeeping community...maybe do an actual interview with Bob Binnie. Nobody knows about this guy, and his story nor numbers equate
I appreciate the complement. I am a bit of a dark horse. Bob and I have talked a number of times. He is the one who suggested some of my equipment, and I totally copied his model of supplementing my hives with honey from others. I just do it at a higher end sales and use a lot of grants and programs to reduce my cost of goods sold. I also only buy from other beekeepers within a 50 mile radius of me. I have the distinct advantage of having spent 14 years as a program manager in government contracting at a high end firm. I just transferred the model and business skills to farming, especially my time combining ridiculously complex government programs to help my business. I have really been surprised how well its worked. Some examples are the Veterans Small Business Enhancement Act, The Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act and WOrk Opportunity Tax Credit to cut labor costs, USDA Value Added Producer Grant to cut costs of goods sold, and a number of others.
As a veteran, hobby beekeeper, and accountant I can say information is missing. I'm guessing he makes other income from bees like wax, mead, pollination contracts, and just regular bees.
I do make some cash from our Jelly, but its mostly honey. I have my own hives, but I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us. I grew up in rural Missouri with grain elevators. Farmers took their grain there for aggregation, then the elevator repackaged it. I do the same thing with honey, except I keep it separated by lot and location. I look at it like using a subcontractor rather than me hiring people and managing more hives personally. Each year I add more hives to cut the amount I buy, but each year I have increased sales so that hasnt worked out as well as planned. I also sell at a premium, both to the grocery stores and government contracts, while using things like the USDA VAPG to cut my cost of goods sold.
This man is the face of a liar. Bottling equipment brand new is less than $10,000 dollars he is buying the majority of his honey and is only in 3 grocery stores even according to his own website. He is just taking advantage of people and the fact that he is a veteran I love y’all at upflip but as a commercial beekeeper and retailer of our own honey in more than 60 stores if y’all want to continue as a good honest channel you need to take this video of this liar down.
yo upflip! just an observation… when showing us the honey removal equipment, your man was sweating buckets in there! if you aint showing us it in action, let the bloke show us then let him out in the fresh air 😂 bless his salt content get that man some electrolytes 😂😂😂
Yep. There was some creative editing from them here that cut out when I explained this. I have my own hives, but I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us. I grew up in rural Missouri with grain elevators. Farmers took their grain there for aggregation, then the elevator repackaged it. I do the same thing with honey, except I keep it separated by lot and location. I look at it like using a subcontractor rather than me hiring people and managing more hives personally. Each year I add more hives to cut the amount I buy, but each year I have increased sales so that hasnt worked out as well as planned.
Its the Veterans Small Business Enhancement Act. Step 1 is to get certified by the SBA. Google SBA VetCert. After certification you contact your state Federal Surplus Officer and get enrolled.
This UA-cam channel is for business builders not for beekeepers. I’ve been a beekeeper for seven or eight years now. To be completely honest I’m not 100% invested in my process at most. I’ve had five hives and the largest harvest I’ve had is less than 70 pounds. This UA-cam channel is talking about just growing a business. They aren’t talking about varroa mites, hive Beatles or wax moths. Not talking about hive losses. I have no doubt that this brother in Arms is passing on viable information yet with that being said there is a lot that is being left out and the person running this UA-cam channel is just a money hawk. If you want to learn what it takes to become a beekeeper find a mentor And see what you can do. Another individual had a comment here that was absolutely incredible to me. When they said, peoples lives have been destroyed because of videos like this. I will say this, though, thank you for the information about the military surplus, definitely something I wanted to know. Become a beekeeper it’s good for the environment and the rewards are amazingly sweet.
I'm curious on what's defining a "premium product" in this case. Is it the packaging? Doesn't look like he's transporting the bees to the mountains to get sourwood.
Most honeys are just glucose fructose syrup mixed with some real honey. Real organic honey is 100 percent pure and has all it's micro and phytonutrients in tact.
there is no such thing as a registered organic honey coming from a Florida commercial beekeeper all imported honey is inspected by border patrol. Though some honey syrup gets through and all is honey is tested for floral sources and must be 100 honey
No, real 'organic honey' is honey that is 'organic'. That requires certification proving that your bees are bot exposed to specific chemicals. 'Pure honey' is straight honey, nothing else. Usually best to purchase from beekeeper. But, not all beekeepers are honest!
So he is actually a honey broker selling his on but mainly other people's honey. Selling to targeted high end customers. Love the bottles. Who is he buy the extra honey from?
Yep. There was some creative editing from them here that cut out when I explained this. I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us. I grew up in rural Missouri with grain elevators. Farmers took their grain there for aggregation, then the elevator repackaged it. I do the same thing with honey, except I keep it separated by lot and location. I look at it like using a subcontractor rather than me hiring people and managing more hives personally.
Its the Veterans Small Business Enhancement Act. Step 1 is to get certified by the SBA. Google SBA VetCert. After certification you contact your state Federal Surplus Officer and get enrolled.
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I am a commercial beekeeper running over 1000 hives. From 60 hives you cannot make honey for 100 stores.
Hi imports or buys honey wholesale and repackages selling as an expensive brand.
Agree. Something doesn't add up.
Agree, I run 600 colonies and his math does not add up. This video is misleading. If you are thinking about getting rich quick on beekeeping, be careful because you will likely lose a lot of money.
@@mikleach How do you manage to run 600 colonies? Do you employ helpers? Beekeeping is one of the hardest farming and requires huge amount of knowledge.
There are no rules, the 60 colonies are just for show. Taking care of thousands of colonies would only eat up all his time. He let's you do that and he buys honey wholesale and focuses his efforts on selling at retail.
@@dogblackprincehoney very mechanized reducing labor wherever possible used seasonal help when needed 4 full time employees
Could someone please explain what I am missing? Early in the video it was stated that they are @ $250,000 in revenue just six months into this year. The price per pound of honey on the high side is $20 and one hive averages around 80lbs of honey per year. The owner has 62 hives which translates to just shy of $100,000 in revenue for an entire year. I watched the entire video and I cannot figure out what I am missing.
Let me know when you've figured it out. Beats me too.
Honey, beeswax, bee pollen, propolis and royal jelly all the products from beekeeping. The gentleman also sells eggs from what I saw earlier.
Yeah, I think that is misleading in the title and I never heard 41k per month mentioned in the video and don't think it's anywhere near possible with just 62 hives.
I'm at about the same number of hives and I'm nowhere near even the $150,000.
Granted I'm still scaling so just because I have around 60-70 hives, doesn't mean they're all production hives yet. (Meaning not all hives are bringing in excess Honey yet).
Location plays a lot too. I might get 50-60 pounds per hive average on a decent year.
This year was horrible for Honey production and I'm only getting around 400-500 pounds total (still processing the Honey at the moment).
There are other ways to make money in beekeeping as someone below already mentioned.
You can sell Pollen, wax, propolis, royal jelly and even bees. (Queens, package bees and Nucs (nucleus colonies), as well as pollination services.
I sell a few Nucs but I think I might hold off until I scale larger because I'm only selling around $2,000-$4,000 in bees per year when I could be putting those bees to work and grow my apiary. I'm still growing it, but just not as fast because of selling some of the bees off. There is good money in selling bees, but it's a lot easier to do when you've already hit your target number. Because at that point, every new colony made is excess and can be sold off without slowing down the business plan.
The quicker you can get to a larger number of colonies, the quicker you're making better money.
I did decide to stay steady this year though because last year I took a beating just trying to keep up.
I went up to 75 colonies and wasn't ready for it. I didn't have my boxes built so I was constantly playing catch up through out the year.
I also work a full time job (I just can't afford to quit no matter how much better it would help me run my bee business). I need to get to where I want to be first before I can quit.
Trying to work full time and sell Honey any time I wasn't working, as well as building equipment, really took a toll on me. So 2024 was a year to hold steady and catch my balance so to speak.
I'll plan to grow to 100-125 colonies next year.
In my opinion, I won't be looking at decent money until I get to around 200-300 colonies.
@@TexasBeekeeper I think the grants and the line of funding through on the job training adds direct cash back into the business as well.
@@colinaamot Great point!
250k/year with 61 hives? 😂 I own 130 hives (7 years of experience) and barely make 80-90k/year in a good year. So stop lying to others because maybe there are some readers who want to start bussiness like this.
Every video they have looks like they are selling 10x more profits than reality .
So many peoples lives have been destroyed bc of videos like this . May more than benefited anyway . Thanks for your professional perspective. I pray your good intentions help your income and business grow . Thanks for helping all those you help regularly bc of what you do daily my good man.
You don't have a brand or set up like he does . Every same business don't have similar profits .
9 year beekeeper here too, they definitely embellished.
He must do different math than me. When he says he gets 100lbs per hive on a good year and sells for 20 dollars a pound. Simple math says thats less than half the 250k, and im pretty sure those numbers dont account for expenses.
Hard to believe , especially with the diseases that kills the beehives ( varoises disease) and pests . God bless you guys . Greetings from an agricultural technician
Bees don’t make this much, we have 75 hives as a side business. We get around 3k pounds in honey. It’s around $40-50k
He doesn't factor in costs. Only states sales. He probably buys honey from Beeks.
@@Userxyz-z2dexactly. After watching this it looks like he buys barrels and white labels the honey.
Yep. There was some creative editing from them here that cut out when I explained this. I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us.
I am from Portugal and i also have cork trees (and bees). I was so happy to hear the word Portugal on your video. Also happy about the possibility that some of my cork might be used on your honney jars. Let me invite you to come to Portugal and see our bees and cork trees in real. Hugs fom Portugal.
Glad you enjoyed it. I get mine from Corklink and have been super happy with them.
Impossible to do this in serbia. I have 134 bee hives and bearly make 10k a year.
It's impossible to do in USA according to BeeFit girl. She has about 50 hives and has to work somewhere else to make a living. The guy maybe gets a lot of grants as a veteran.
@@dogblackprincehoneyits very possible that he sells other producers' money
Poz brate Srbine. Jel prodajes samo u Srbiji ili?
he says in a "good" year he can make 1000$/hive per year , and he also said this year he already made 250000 dollars which sounds a little sus with only 68 hives
Buys honey from other Beeks? He doesnt say what his expenses are. We think profit, Corps think gross sales.
@@Userxyz-z2dI agree as a commercial beekeeper and he lies about the floral sources he has in the Carolinas and buys a lot of honey and is really only in three grocery stores
After three years ! 😂 Huhuhu ! 😅
Its not about # of hives. Its about revenue. There was some creative editing from them here that cut out when I explained this. I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us.
@@SecretGardenBees so why did you lie blatantly about the cost of the flow master and the bottling tanks
Lots of misinformation here.... 500 dollars to start? Well he stated he bought two packages of bees at 150 each, leaving 200 for everything else. The price of boxes, frames, gloves, smoker, beesuit, hive tool etc. is much more than 200 dollars. He said he gets 1000 dollars a hive a year. He has 62 hives, so the maximum he could get is 62,000 in a year. Your title says he gets 41,000 a month. This is very dangerous to misinform people about very important details.
Misleading to not mention the expenses beyond year one. You have massive expenses for processing that you did not disclose
I agree. They cut a lot of that out of my interview because it was just too much. I have kept the processing costs down by making do with inefficient equipment, and using a USDA Value Added Producer Grant to cut the costs of my bottles and such.
Dude is a bee pimp.
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Stop lying about the profitability
Did honey for the purpose of having greet pollinators for all varieties of trees. Found like anything to turn out great it takes work (and lots of money to get started. I give this "story" a C for effort. Eighty pounds per hive. What were they, the size of a hundred gallon barrel!
I wonder if his calculation is based on high side of 100 pounds per hive on 2 harvests of June and October (5 months?) or 200 pounds per hive per year or 12,800 pounds at $20 per pound or $248,000. Maybe his price per pound is more than $20?... So $41K over 6 months per month possibly makes sense... but not $41K per month over 12 months... UpFlip should give further clarification...
Yah like verification of income & receipts. I think what hes doing is buying honey from other Beeks. So hes spending $248,000 to make $250,000, its the Corp nonsense.
I would say that this was misrepresented on income. 61 hives all 61 productive each super at 35 lbs max weight you would have to get 3 full supers per hive. That is only 6100 lbs of honey this would only be $54,000 gross income. Then stating a hive cost is $50 including frames again is not a realistic price. There is Bottle cost, label cost, labor cost. Honey is only 15% of a bee business. You have to split into Nucs and sell bee nucs and packages to reach these numbers. The income numbers vs cost numbers don't add up to the numbers expressed . They would have to be buying and processing honey from other sources as well , selling bees and again 100 nucs is only an income of 24,000. So to reach the numbers expressed there is much more going on that is not being told
Yep. There was some creative editing from them here that cut out when I explained this. I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us.
@@Userxyz-z2d Yep. There was some creative editing from them here that cut out when I explained this. I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us. But my stated profit margin is accurate.
To mitigate winter losses theres a grant you can get for a hoophouse/greenhouse, leave the hoops up all year and throw poly over the hives when temps start to drop.
Interesting idea. Thank you.
I got into beekeeping years ago, but got burned out because I was collecting colonies by performing cut-outs. I may revisit this again next Spring. I actually have a colony in our old house - I'll collect swarms from this and nearby hives, then perhaps requeen them.
You're one of those people that starts rambling to a stranger about your life when literally no one cares 🤣
I burned myself out also my first trip in Beekeeping cuz I'd run everywhere cutting out bees. Got out for 5 year, now restarted with 1 package. Split it to 5 by winter. Used super insulated hives, 3" PSE foam board, went 5 for 5 in a mild michigan winter. Managed the hives for mites by Don Fat beeman technique of fogging with mineral oil & spearmint/wintergreen, manage hive beetles with peppermint candy. Hives are booming. I would only do a cutout now to help a desperate person, cuz I never charged anyone. they are the most expensive bees you can get. Start small & focused & grow as you can afford & manage.
Love this episode! Even more, I love to see my fellow Veterans succeeding in the Civ Div. Semper Fi
I’ve tried for 4 years to start a bee hive. Unfortunately I have not had success. It’s sad and each year is a new problem. Hopefully this year my bees will make it. Research research research. In the end though sometime that hasn’t been enough.
i have a story for you, my father is beekeeper. find me on X app (7moodzx899)
Why the bees didn't make?
@@dogblackprincehoneyI don’t know, I went out one day and all of
them were just gone. I’d like to think they are somewhere they think is better and are happy.
@@HLTrizzay They can leave if they have a lot of ticks or frames are too old and dark or something else.
Change the spot of the hive 3 foot away. There are bad energy spots and the bees don't like them and leave.
Yeah the numbers don't really add up.
Yep. There was some creative editing from them here that cut out when I explained this. I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us.
I just bought my first hive. No bees yet. Thats next year. Learn first.
everyone's a bee farmer until they get stung 100 times in the nuts lol
That's funny.
😂😂
Oh my goodness 😂…
So wish we looked after our vets in Europe in the same way. I've been beekeeping for 6 years and need to look into this.
Holy smokes I had no idea about Government Surplus? I am a Veteran looking to start a farm business and just about fell out of my chair! LETS GO USA!
This is INSANE.
share the link fellow vet?
Yeah, that surprised me too! I would love to get my hands on a truck and a trailer for my scuba business...
I would like to get a link as well. Can't find it myself
I’m getting ready to retire from the service /21 years. I’m starting a farm, I seriously want that link too!!!
IDK I havent watched this yet but I was driving around in the hills near me in SoCal and came across a honey farm on google maps... Did some research and they do $2M a year. Not bad for a small biz honey farm!
How many hives they have To make that much money ?
I own bees. I think the average beekeeper nets around $70 per beehive per year if they are doing a good job. If he's actually netting more than $5k he's doing a great job.
How to make a million bucks from bees - start with two million bucks.
Awesome and thanks for sharing with us ❤I’m new to your channel and I’m excited to be here ❤
don't be, all the information you heard here is absolutely false, at least in terms of profits
The Beekeeper!!! Watch it 9/10
Thanks for the awesome reco! 😉
I joke that "The Beekeeper" is the second semi-autobiographical movie about me---I was EOD in the Army so the first was "the hurt locker."
Love the movie The Beekeeper 🙂
Where do you buy the package of bees plus the queen for $150.00?
Y’all don’t listen he said he has contracts with grocery stores for his product. The one store he said he went from 60 to 160 stores, blah blah blah blah blah blah these contracts pay in a lot of cases upfront and you can say he’s making the money if he has a contract You can’t look at how many hives he has and how much he’s making a year right now he may be anticipating having more hives. You know he’s giving you figures right now with the amount of product he’s making right now, but that doesn’t mean he’s not gonna upscale quit bashing people.
A contract means that he had the ability to fill the order,,, if not he won't last longe
So hes got to go spend $150,000 more to make the $250,000. He bot himself a job.
He is buying large quantum’s of honey and selling as his own and is taking advantage of being a veteran
Bee's emit a healing frequency and the average life expectancy of a beekeeper is 103!
This episode was so helpful! I have questions specifically about that $20k honey pour set-up. I hand pour fudge and my neck and shoulders are killing me. Can the honey stay in there for a long time? Do you think chocolate sauce could work in that? I have to bring it up to a boil but then maybe pour it into that to keep the right temp. This is the main thing stopping me from scaling my biz. Thank you for sharing so much already!
Thrilled to hear the episode was helpful for you! Have you considered consulting with a equipment specialist or maybe testing it out on a smaller scale first? Keep pushing forward with your biz-you've got this! 💪
I’m not understanding how this can be, but very happy you are so successful.
Im currently making myself a bee business ive got 4 hives next year shooting for 15 with the supplies currently for like 10
Excellent video guys! Thank you both for doing this show. Great advice. Pete.
@ 3:22 The person in the black shirt has good taste in music.
One colony of bees for me was $180 and my hives were $250 and my bee suit was $100. I bought 4 colonies and 3 died within the first year. Plus the pollen patties and mite killer and tools and extras all add up. They make it seem very inexpensive in this video but my experience has been a very expensive endeavor.
That man is well equipped for this business and fast at rectifying business mistakes and miscalculations a great business man.
There’s no right time the right time happens when you make a leap of faith
I’ve bee in my car once hidden in my door panel and the buzzing sound annoys the hell out of me 😂😂😂
The buzz is worse than a sting:)
Honey is also a healing substance .
All his expenses need to be doubled. 50$ for a bottom deep and super is crazy. closer to $100-$125. Not to mention most keepers run double deeps and hopefully double supers.
As a long time hobby beekeeper; honey bees need resorces to produce a good crop of honey. Where is he located and more importantly what pollin and nector is located within fivee miles of his bees?
I enjoyed watching this wonderful movie and welcome you to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Thank you to the photography team and my beekeeping friends. It is truly worth admiring and sharing
Thank you for your advice
I'm Mahmoud Bilal from Sudan but now I live in Saudi Arabia and I would like to contact with you
More like "Women-unfriendly Tyranny of Saudi Arabia". You guys got stuck in the medieval times.
If it sounds to good to be true it most likely is.
creating merchandise such as t-shirts and candy made from honey. Additionally, offering pre-made iced honey tea could significantly boost profits. Documenting the entire process through a UA-cam channel could also help build credibility and attract a following.
Sharp business owner and he builds quality it would be a good mentor. He reminds me of Paul Akers and his 2 second Lean
Step one: be able to afford a home with land. Or just a home with big enough space..
Unfortunately for those who haven’t bought a home yet it’s ridiculously increasing in price every year. Many can’t afford housing anymore
It’s tough out there, but staying informed and planning carefully can help navigate these rising costs. Keep pushing forward and exploring your options! 💪
I am in Texas on the gulf coast a pond of honey sells for $10 on the side of the road or in the store.
"Corks from Portugal!!" Yeah!!
Corks from Portugal are top-notch!
Can you please post a link to the Va study on bees and PTSD
“Italians” “Calm and gentle”
How the hell did that wind up in the same sentence?
Good one 😅
It's scientifically proven that the frequency Bees produce is healing to the mind and body.
Their contributions to nature and agriculture are invaluable. 🙏
To get into big grocery stores was it your premium product or lower price? When you state 40% margin are you stating net proceeds? Are you surrounded by agricultural land and if so, does their pest control negatively affect your bees? I am surrounded by working land; a big dairy to the west, corn, sugar beets, mint and wheat. Does their programs of agricultural land use make bee keeping harder or easier?
Appreciate the questions! To answer the first one, getting into big grocery stores usually depends on a combination of factors like the quality of your product, pricing strategy, and sometimes relationships with buyers.
@@UpFlip For me I worked for the grocery company so I have business contacts when my production is high enough.
Hes probably buying honey from other beeks. Quality control is hard to monitor & I suspect at some point the Govt will step in bc many Beeks feed their bees sugar so the honey they produce is Franken honey. Oversight is def needed in this industry.
Hi you say you only extract twice a year, why only twice a year? Here in Queensland Australia when my dad had 12x full size 9 frame hives he would extract every 4 weeks sometimes he would have to do it every 3 weeks for 1 full 9 frame Super or they would build up into the lid.. + Harvesting typically takes place in spring and summer for us which is September to April/May that's like 9 times a year or more.. unless your adding multiple + supers per hive ?
The frequency of extraction can vary based on local conditions and hive management practices. Thanks for watching! ☺️
62 hives Keep in mind this. 41k/month title say. That’s about 20 dollars as he say per kg ( to say so ) this mean you make 2000kg / month honey. Things did not add up mate. Do bees for 20 years. Never come up such things Or title is wrong. 😂😂😂😂
A Little money laundering. Naa just click bait title.
Read responses to comments. He explains that editing cut out a lot and he sells other keepers honey.
thank you for the veteran info
Another great video from UpFlip! Thank you!
62 hives each 80 😮 pound of honey per 20$ 🤑each = 99200. How did he make 250k? This is not real
How are ppl spending $20-40 for 1 lb for honey in NC when I can buy local raw honey for $11-17 for 3lbs in GA?
Is it really raw or just corn syrop?
@@dogblackprincehoney it’s raw honey
@@qldavis3005 11 dollars for 3 pounds raw honey?
People are not spending $20-40 per pound, guaranteed. Unless hes selling to the Govt lol
Raw honey is good for health, one can't buy cheap raw honey. If it's cheap it's probably catering honey.
men this guy knows what he is doing. Thanks Upflip!
Government handouts. Professional bullshitter. Wow he milks his ptds
@@calebdebele1223 he's a welfare queen hiding behind military service
I started in 2020 also and am down $4,000
Follow your dreams
I was under the impression that bee keepers are honest? this guy is not, pure and simple.......................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🐝I started in 2020 as well but due to where I live selling honey has proven difficult. Thanks for sharing
Maybe consider exploring online platforms, farmers' markets, or local collaborations to get your product out there. Wishing you all the best in your journey! 🍯🐝
@@UpFlip Can you clarify the revenue numbers everyone is asking about in the comments. The math doesn’t seem to math. Just lay out the calculations for us like we’re children (even though some of us have accounting degrees!!)
For such a remarkable beekeeper, he sure is unknown in the beekeeping community...maybe do an actual interview with Bob Binnie. Nobody knows about this guy, and his story nor numbers equate
I appreciate the complement. I am a bit of a dark horse. Bob and I have talked a number of times. He is the one who suggested some of my equipment, and I totally copied his model of supplementing my hives with honey from others. I just do it at a higher end sales and use a lot of grants and programs to reduce my cost of goods sold. I also only buy from other beekeepers within a 50 mile radius of me. I have the distinct advantage of having spent 14 years as a program manager in government contracting at a high end firm. I just transferred the model and business skills to farming, especially my time combining ridiculously complex government programs to help my business. I have really been surprised how well its worked. Some examples are the Veterans Small Business Enhancement Act, The Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act and WOrk Opportunity Tax Credit to cut labor costs, USDA Value Added Producer Grant to cut costs of goods sold, and a number of others.
This is one of the best videos by far love this entrepreneur
He is a liar nothing he says is based on facts wether it be the finances or how his business functions
As a veteran, hobby beekeeper, and accountant I can say information is missing.
I'm guessing he makes other income from bees like wax, mead, pollination contracts, and just regular bees.
I do make some cash from our Jelly, but its mostly honey. I have my own hives, but I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us. I grew up in rural Missouri with grain elevators. Farmers took their grain there for aggregation, then the elevator repackaged it. I do the same thing with honey, except I keep it separated by lot and location. I look at it like using a subcontractor rather than me hiring people and managing more hives personally. Each year I add more hives to cut the amount I buy, but each year I have increased sales so that hasnt worked out as well as planned. I also sell at a premium, both to the grocery stores and government contracts, while using things like the USDA VAPG to cut my cost of goods sold.
Very inspiring
Awesome video
This man is the face of a liar. Bottling equipment brand new is less than $10,000 dollars he is buying the majority of his honey and is only in 3 grocery stores even according to his own website. He is just taking advantage of people and the fact that he is a veteran
I love y’all at upflip but as a commercial beekeeper and retailer of our own honey in more than 60 stores if y’all want to continue as a good honest channel you need to take this video of this liar down.
There is nothing free about that money 💰
Great video.
yo upflip!
just an observation…
when showing us the honey removal equipment, your man was sweating buckets in there!
if you aint showing us it in action, let the bloke show us then let him out in the fresh air 😂
bless his salt content
get that man some electrolytes 😂😂😂
We'll make sure they've got their electrolytes on standby next time! 😅
@@TheRealMcJack photo op. He has employees.
I am fat. I sweat a lot no matter what! That trailer has an A/C, but its old and sounds like a jet engine so we didnt run it.
@@SecretGardenBees im skinny and i sweat a lot, i know about electrolytes! 😂 hope you have had plenty of honey this summer! much love! 👍🏻
Pay attention to the tricks he use , funds, grants, the way he take the cars. , recruiting disable veterans. Etc. the other numbers did not add up
62 Hives x $1000 per year per Hive, where are the other $188.000 come from ?
Perhaps queens/nucs $150 a pop.
He buys the honey he sells.
He buys the honey he sells.
Math isnt mathin
Yep. There was some creative editing from them here that cut out when I explained this. I have my own hives, but I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us. I grew up in rural Missouri with grain elevators. Farmers took their grain there for aggregation, then the elevator repackaged it. I do the same thing with honey, except I keep it separated by lot and location. I look at it like using a subcontractor rather than me hiring people and managing more hives personally. Each year I add more hives to cut the amount I buy, but each year I have increased sales so that hasnt worked out as well as planned.
When your side business makes what you get paid for the 9 to 5 job that's the time to go full-time self employed.
For sure! But also make sure you have a solid strategy, a financial cushion, and a clear vision for growth to make it work. 💪
@@rw9866 line up for handouts. Pretend you have ptds.
@@UpFlip 100% agree
Beekeeping is a farming and farming depeds on weather.
Great therapy idea. 🙂
Working with bees can be surprisingly therapeutic. 🐝
@@UpFlip And a bit painful too:) if somebody doesn't like stings.
What website did you say veterans can find deals on equipment and vehicles please????
Its the Veterans Small Business Enhancement Act. Step 1 is to get certified by the SBA. Google SBA VetCert. After certification you contact your state Federal Surplus Officer and get enrolled.
It s not that easy. I have 500 hive in Greece and my per income, it is mutch simpler!
This UA-cam channel is for business builders not for beekeepers. I’ve been a beekeeper for seven or eight years now. To be completely honest I’m not 100% invested in my process at most. I’ve had five hives and the largest harvest I’ve had is less than 70 pounds. This UA-cam channel is talking about just growing a business. They aren’t talking about varroa mites, hive Beatles or wax moths. Not talking about hive losses. I have no doubt that this brother in Arms is passing on viable information yet with that being said there is a lot that is being left out and the person running this UA-cam channel is just a money hawk. If you want to learn what it takes to become a beekeeper find a mentor And see what you can do. Another individual had a comment here that was absolutely incredible to me. When they said, peoples lives have been destroyed because of videos like this. I will say this, though, thank you for the information about the military surplus, definitely something I wanted to know. Become a beekeeper it’s good for the environment and the rewards are amazingly sweet.
Freinds bee keeping business failed because of local market saturation and bigger business. My Bro couldn't compete
Saturation and competition from bigger businesses can be tough. Sorry to hear about what happened!
Great chanel and content 🎉🎉🎉
Sweet video!
Thanks for watching and supporting our channel! ☺️
Thank you for your service. We see you and we appreciate you.
This guy is amazing Thanks UpFlip!
Happy to bring in more guests like Jim! 🙌
@@UpFlip what is the name of the government program that he bought his equipment through?
I'm curious on what's defining a "premium product" in this case. Is it the packaging? Doesn't look like he's transporting the bees to the mountains to get sourwood.
Most honeys are just glucose fructose syrup mixed with some real honey. Real organic honey is 100 percent pure and has all it's micro and phytonutrients in tact.
Unless the beeks he buys from are feeding their bees sugar which is common
there is no such thing as a registered organic honey coming from a Florida commercial beekeeper all imported honey is inspected by border patrol. Though some honey syrup gets through and all is honey is tested for floral sources and must be 100 honey
No, real 'organic honey' is honey that is 'organic'.
That requires certification proving that your bees are bot exposed to specific chemicals.
'Pure honey' is straight honey, nothing else. Usually best to purchase from beekeeper. But, not all beekeepers are honest!
ALWAYS a leap of faith.
Taking on anything new, whether it's starting a business, pursuing a passion, or even beekeeping, is always a leap of faith. 🔥
No Honey…No Money….love this!!!!
Definitely catchy! 🙌
All of these grants and such should truly be more clear and presented to the public !
How do you get grant money for your business?
So he is actually a honey broker selling his on but mainly other people's honey. Selling to targeted high end customers. Love the bottles. Who is he buy the extra honey from?
Yep. There was some creative editing from them here that cut out when I explained this. I absolutely buy other farmers honey. Several nearby farmers needed a reliable honey market at a fair price and I needed more supply. The honey is all from within a 50 mile radius and it works out well for all of us. I grew up in rural Missouri with grain elevators. Farmers took their grain there for aggregation, then the elevator repackaged it. I do the same thing with honey, except I keep it separated by lot and location. I look at it like using a subcontractor rather than me hiring people and managing more hives personally.
@@SecretGardenBees Mr. Bob Binnie has made a fantastic business model as a producer and a broker.
Bro is the real beekeeper 😂
A legend 🙌
He is a real liar coming from a Florida commercial beekeeper
What is the name of the program he get the equipments through as a veteran?
Please research it. Everything is on Google.
Its the Veterans Small Business Enhancement Act. Step 1 is to get certified by the SBA. Google SBA VetCert. After certification you contact your state Federal Surplus Officer and get enrolled.
these prices are a bit high - who pays those prices ?
HUMBLE BEE
Awesome
Nothing can stop a man who's passionate about his craft
That kind of drive and determination is unstoppable. 🔥
When is the first time he became the bee 🐝 keeper
He started in 2020! ☺️
But yet he says hes been doing it 6 yrs. Math isnt mathin