Final OM1 Review by an Astrophotographer
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- Опубліковано 10 січ 2023
- Astrophotography is harder on camera equipment then any other single type of imaging that I can think of. Not only do we deal with very faint objects but they often have insane contrast levels that are difficult to capture. I have been testing the OM1 for a while now and its a great camera. So great in fact that I am buying a second one. In this video I dive deep into a side by side image taken with the Em1x and the OM1. I tried to do my best to make the difference between the two as clear as I could and collected a lot of data and statistics on it.
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As an Olympus user, I have been watching your videos for some time and I am always impressed by the wealth of your knowledge and experience. Thank you for sharing.
My pleasure!
Great footage! Yes, the different in IQ between my OM-1 and EM1.3 is noticeable. I am not into astro but your video are always well worth watch. Happy New Year and all the best for 2023 to you.
Thanks. I hope you have a good 2023 too.
I've watched a lot of camera reviews, far too many. Yours is set apart by the depth and the nuances you share; those I don't hear anyone else talk about. Really great work! Thank you for sharing with the community
Wow, thanks!
Probably your best summation ever. I found similar results and have same impressions. I appreciate you going to the trouble to quantify the differences so people like me can know if our impressions are merely subjective or if our results are simply anecdotal. Obviously my impressions and better results have some degree of quantifiable backup thanks to you. And for wildlife I’m also seeing a two stop improvement overall, especially in color accuracy at high iso and in sports where there is less details (no fur or feathers) even up to 25600 is possible with post processing. Below 12800 I really don’t need denoise software beyond Lightroom as long as exposure is in the money and not too much cropping.
Yes since the new Denoise is now in just about everything it's really something I think of as a part of the camera. They should build it right in. I bet that will come to the jpg engine someday.
ISO 12800 is getting pretty rough to be honest. But it holds up better than the previous gen sensor, especially the colors. I just wished the dynamic range were better.
@@janwedek If we see Starvas 2 tech in one of these we could see a big jump in dynamic range. The OM1 did improve in this respect but I do also wish it had more. But we always do wish for more anyway.
Great video. Lots of interesting information Ben. Thanks for making this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I´m always very fascinated by your knowledge....even if I don`t really undestand most of it.
Love your enthusiasm, talent and dedication to this subject and channel! I'm just getting into Astrophotography and have an EM1X, and am looking forward to exploring with it in the coming years. I don't have the *time* element of the equation right now, so don't want to over-invest, so though the OM1 is tempting, i'll just master what i have first ;).
Em1x has plenty to offer. I just wish they would add Starry Sky AF to it.
very cool video, thanks for making and sharing it. the Pen-F vs mono astro cam comparison sounds like it'll be very interesting.
That camera is actually a color version of it. The blue one at least. Its only advantage is that it is cooled and has not IR cut filter on it. It will be a fun video though.
Great summation, and yes the OM-1 sensor is better for Astro than the previous sensor in the E-M1 Mark III or E-M1 X.
The difference between the OM1 and EM1x is actually quite impressive (for astrophotography at least). You can especially see the benefits of the OM1 when you show the two images stretched side by side.
Agreed. For terrestrial photography asking for more image quality these days is like asking for more water in the ocean.
I trend to agree with such findings than other's. it's more in line with what i feel/find when i take pictures with the om1 first hand.
@@blo5980 There are variations in batch quality of each sensor to be taken into account. Having four of the older IMX270 sensors though not one of them is as good as the new IMX472 in the OM1.
I really appreciate the very very detailed and interesting information. I don't own a camera yet... but almost nobody will tell you in detail what is like to use that camera... so this is really useful for me, just to tell if I would like that camera or not
Glad it was helpful!
With regard to battery life - I used to shoot wedding videos and always used a DC coupler. They can be fed by a mains transformer or a usb power bank if you need to be mobile or dont have mains power access. Also because no power is going through a battery it helps a lot with overheating issues. This has worked fine with my previous Panasonic cameras and most recently on my EM5 iii. I stress tested it on the Olympus with a power bank for 6 hours hours of continuous video and stopped the test at that point. The only slight downside is that you lose weather sealing but that's not likely to be an issue for most people...
Great great great review!!! I agree with photos it is an improvement as you’ve shown! For my uses personally I don’t see that benefit though. Now in terms of video it is both superior and annoyingly limited. While it’s better than the past models it still doesn’t have features from a 5 year old GH5. Also oh man thank you for touching on the eye cup! I’ve broken so many of those and I’ve upgraded both my eye cups OM-1 and E-M1.2 to the bigger 3rd party which is much nice against my eyes when I’m wearing glasses! Thanks for this video! It’s the best real world OM-1 review!
Dude, hope it's cool but I shared this on FB, Twitter, and Reddit. It's too good!
Thanks. Ya I loved my EM1x eyecup it made working with it comfortable and that was something I had not been able to say since my Olympus E3. May that E3s eyecup rest in piece wherever if when to. They fell off so easy lol.
Always willing to let other share these videos. Thank you.
Great Video - although I'm not into astro, your videos have so much good information, must watch definitely
Happy to hear that!
Looking forward to your review of the OM-1 Mk II
You and me both!
Thank you sharing this information
When I shot my first Ski races as a teenager, my mentor on the mountain, kept all our batteries in our pants. Nikon even had a cable to a battery adapter, so you could locate the battery in a warm place, which turned out to be my crotch, between my thighs. I remember thinking, "so this is what an assistant does!" But, the battery kept power, and my body heat kept the battery warm, despite 5 degree weather outside.
35 years later I had a group of students out on a bitterly cold morning for a shoot for Olympus, and one battery kept dying, so I put the battery in my mouth (it was sealed) till it warmed up and my camera went back to working long enough for the shoot. My students thought I was nuts, but I heard later that they soon started keeping spare batteries in their front pockets to stay warm as per my suggestions. Ah.. the joys of battery technology vs. cold weather!
I loved your video, great to see the differences in the sensors. Thorough, succinct, and informative!
Thank you. There used to be a lot of battery packs that could be used with a cord run to the camera. But lilted they have not put that feature in a lot of newer cameras.
@@TheNarrowbandChannel My Sony A7 IV has a USB Type-C charge port, and it allows for the connection of external power to run the camera. I found out the hard way, while testing a new model for Sony, I forgot the battery, which was still in the charger at home. But, I had a large external lithium ion battery for my phone, and wondered if it would work. Luckily I had the proper Type-A to Type-C cable, and boom, it worked! I could finish the tests!
A review with facts is rare on UA-cam. Very useful. Has your OM1 or your EM1X been astro modified by removing the infra-red filter?
No they have not. I have so many dedicated cameras I really see no point in doing so. Watch my Christmas wish list video and I have some details in there about this topic and what would be ideal IR cut filter fro these cameras.
Might be worth making a cage for the OM1 with a blower to maintain temperature. Or IDK, that Peltier cooler that you were tinkering a few months back might just be the solution; use the waste heat that it pumps out to warm up the exterior and maybe trick the sensor that it's still warm outside? IDK really hahaha.
I wish we can slap on that Olympus badge over the OM one; the gravitas of the name is really irreplacable. And what are those adapters between the 1x field flattener and the camera itself?
Nice work here, hope the SV550 review comes out soon (well, too late for me hahaha - I got one myself and now just waiting for clear skies and that 1x flattener. I don't trust the 2in nosepiece port to hold up stuff heavier than a diagonal and an eyepiece). Clear skies, clean glass!
SV550 is a few weeks out. The Adapter I am using is shown in another video I did on how to connect your MFT camera to a telescope. I had link to actual places to buy too.
Ya I need to get back to work on that Peltier cooler for a camera. I would market and sell it. I would probably make it work with the Small rig cage too.
Good work!
Thank you! Cheers!
I would be most interested in your future review regarding the Orion camera in this video compared to the same sensor in the Pen F. Would removing the IR filter in a Pen F be a good suggestion?
Thanks for your always thorough and complete research, so clearly organized and presented.
I would not modify a Pen F. They are to valuable as is. Better to buy a Em1 Mk2 or 3 and modify one of those the sensor in those are actually better. I am just going to compare the G21 with the Pen F because they have the same sensor.
Charging a Li-ion battery if it's below freezing will still cause lithium plating that will permanently degrade its capacity and could eventually cause it to short circuit and explode/start a fire. I wouldn't want a battery to still charge at -20 C, unless that's just the ambient temp and the battery itself is warmer. Bear in mind aftermarket batteries often fake their temperature sensors and will report to the camera that they're a nice healthy temperature at all times, even if they're below freezing.
The research that I read said they had issues at temperature bellow -20. I would be happier if I could at least work at -10c
@@TheNarrowbandChannel the operational range for discharging (using) lithium-ion batteries can extend to -20 °C or even -30 °C, just with a sharp drop-off of efficiency below -10 °C. For charging them, however, they shouldn't be below 0 °C, and it seems that plugging a USB power source in means the battery will be charging, it won't just be powering the camera, so that is prevented.
What about using a dummy battery powered from a USB battery? I was able to use this set up successfully with my EM-1 MkII.
@@DForand Do they exist yet?
Very impressed with the pics you got using the om1
And those are just a few of them.
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Please do a system diagram and explaining of your setup - I know you’re an engineer and you are a good one I can see
Thats another video to add to my to do list. :)
While I haven't seen what happens in sub freezing temps, I find if you put a fully charged battery(s) in the OM-1 then run continuous power from USB or just a good power bank, it never drains anything from the internal battery(s) so it's not trying to charge it - would that avoid the temp cutoff problem? . And that leads to the idea someone else recently suggested of running a single battery in the HLD-10, leave the body empty for better cooling in warm weather for any kind of shooting, and power from USB for astro. I'm easily seeing the improvements in the OM-1 for astro and wildlife vs the M1X & M1.3.
Yes it does. Though the shown charge in a battery can actually drop as temperatures go down. I do often run with no batteries in the older cameras.
Narrowband Channel..great video! By any chance, are you also a hunter? Cuz i have alot of Kuiu gear as well.
Yes we are but its been a few years because work keeps me so busy.
Have you tried an aftermarket battery to see if it will charge in low temperatures.
BTW, I found a nice USB charger adapter for my Milwaukee 18v power tools. It gives me a lot of power in a light package.
I have not. Have not seen any yet but really also usually stay away from aftermarket batteries.
Is the camera noise low enough such that we don't need Darks any more, especially if stacking enough Lights (like 100 or more ) ?
That is a long way off. Especially since it is not a cooled camera. With some of my cooled cameras I do not have to use darks but the dark frame always does help too.
Can you list the telescopes, adapter to mount the OM-1, etc. that you use with this video? I'm getting an OM-1 soon. Thanks!
Yes I can it is a T - M43 adapter. I have a video about attaching your camera to a scope. I did it about two years ago. Have link in that too to adapters.
Sounds like some of Foveon's technology.
Then again, a dedicated B&W sensor gets rid of the Bayer sensor array.
What part of the video are your referring to?
@@TheNarrowbandChannel Foveon pioneered the 'stacked' sensor, aligning the RBG pixels on top of each other, essentially tripling/quadrupling the resolution versus a Bayer array, which is 4 sensors arranged side-by-side.
Hey Ben, I noticed your images were exposed for 120 seconds. How did you do that. I use the intervalometer and it gives me a max duration of 60 seconds only. I trigger the camera with the oi share app.
I use an intervelomater and the camera set to bulb. There is another way though and that is to use Olympus capture if you want to stay tethered to a laptop. I did a video about that about two years ago.
@@TheNarrowbandChannel ahh thank you, I did see your video on the mkii and x later. Will hunt for a intervalometer. Like you I wish max exposure time could be set to a higher number and then can be used via the OI.share app. Would make life very useful.
There are numerous reports of failing dials (back one mostly) on om1
This is the first I have heard of this. The Em1 Mk1 had many issues with this. To the point Olympus even had a press release about it. I have two Em1 Mk1 that have issues with them.
Please list a reference to the power charger you reference for the EM1x
You need a 9v 5amp supply with a 5.5mm external and 2.5mm internal pin barrel plug.
@@TheNarrowbandChannel thank you
I noticed the OM-1 photo has more green tint in the side by side comparison with E-M1x. Is that an accurate representation of the scene, or an unwanted color shift?
Strange I found they had less green tints. Might be a calibration thing.
@@TheNarrowbandChannel I mean, look at the side by side at 7:56, you don't see more green on OM-1?
@@HokKan NO I do not. That might be your screen.
@@TheNarrowbandChannel it looks like that on both screens and my phone LOL.
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