@@jesusoftheapes I was thinking about doing this soon actually. I'll look into making some stuff. I haven't shaved since I was 16 either, just like to keep it well kept lol
I do not think there are numbers on this WR room. i think we should all look at them multiple. I think the best thing about these past 2 classes is no WR is locked into a type. Chis is a stud inside and out and probably the most dangerous slot wR in the NFL today when he lines up there. Just ask the Bears what they think of Chis in the slot for proof of that. Doubs is probably the most locked into the outside WR spots but he will slide inside a good amount moving forward. The best thing about this class is there are no sure things for defenses to lock into to defend us. I think Reed is not a slot. While he can and will play a lot of it he is a complete WR with outside dominance in his film study. Musgrave and Kraft can also play slot. This team is so much better at skills positions than it has been in decades. We have TEs who can play anywhere and all the WRs can play every spot.
@@SweetLou15 i just like it as a preview of what’s to come, how people move etc. Just like we got to see the rapport building up between Watson, Doubs and Love last year…. I’m looking forward to seeing these clips with the new rookies
The thing I like about Jayden Reed is that he doesn't have the RAS score that they look for. That means he impressed them big time with in other places. Looking forward to seeing him cook.
He probably would have if he did any agility drills. The Packers don’t pick guys because of their RAS. They pick they think are athletic guys, so they end up having a high RAS. I doubt they look at the numbers, they just look for athletes.
I think he performed much better privately than at the combine, as he was battling an eye infection that day. The Director of Player Personnel Jon-Eric Sullivan said they had his 40 at 4.37 seconds, so presumably the rest of his scores were also higher.
With as high as some analysts were on Anthony Johnson, I don't think many people would be upset if the Packers drafted him in the 5th instead of Clifford. And if we get Clifford in the 7th, then all is well. So at the end of the day, they got the players they needed.
I agree our future looks awesome. Lions fans around here in Windsor think we are done. I say wait and see what we have in store. Can’t wait to see our youth perform. It looks great.
I just discovered you this year, and enjoyed your draft thoughts. For fun, I went back to last year's draft grades, and holy shit you did an amazing job! I'm really glad I found you for Packers coverage. Great stuff
Musgrave can block like a beast, i see a robust running game coming this year. I give Green Bay a shot even with a new QB at the helm, this draft was mostly excellent and the Packers got way better outside the QB position..which will remain, for now, as "undetermined".
Full details of the Aaron Rodgers trade: Jets get: Aaron Rodgers Pick 15: Will McDonald, EDGE Pick 204: Jarrick Bernard-Converse, CB Pick 220: Zack Kuntz, TE Packers get: Pick 13: Lukas Van Ness 2024 conditional 1st/2nd Pick 42: Luke Musgrave Pick 207: Anders Carlson Future cap space
Final comment... Last year we essentially gave up Davante Adams and our second rounder for Quay Walker and Christian Watson. Time will tell how all 3 of these trades play out.
And, we could've had TE Kuntz, too vs wasted pick on an UFDA pathetic quality kicker! He was so erratic last yr, that at mid-season, an 18yo freshman benched him! And, his plus 50yrd percentage is about 25%! Ugh!
Great review! I agree with this as an A draft. Too many reviews don't take into account the average draft is 7 picks. Having 13 is great, so you can take some questionable picks like the QB and K. Most of the picks were solid value from the consensus board, so that was good to see, also. Ted Thompson had an ethos of leaving no stone unturned and finding guys no one else knew about, but Gutie seems to be more of a mainstream guy with a couple of hidden gems.
As a former teacher, I'm accustomed to grade values. Per your assessments, the numerical values of your individual grades totalled 38.25 pts ÷ 13 guys = 2.94 average. That equates to just under a 'B', so let's call it that! [key: A/4, B/3, C/2, D/1 n F/O]. Another GB podcaster assessed a similar A-grade but he only values R1-3 for roster building! I admired your grade break-outs for all 13 pics. Like you, I agreed, both the QB n K picks were UDFA values (I actually triggered back to the disasterous Will Harrel R1 pick yrs ago! Absolutely top-3 all-time worst R1 pick in GB hx!) Imo, Gutes was on his way to hitting a home run. All he had to do was fall back upon typical high-value/RAS OTs, OGs, WRs or even select all-world perfect RAS TE Kuntz n he'd of established an NFL top draft! Imo opinion (boosted by your detailed analyses), GB attained 38pts or 2.923 ave. Technically, a B- but we're now at the hand grenade/horse-show comparison. Just understand that your opined #'s = a B grade! Since Gutes' last 3 gradeable drafts post-3 yr reviews = D, D+ n C-, it's apparent that he's improving! And, except for S Vernon Scott, all 2022 picks remain on the team but have 2 more yrs to marinate into final grades. I suspect a few of the '22 picks will be let go this yr. Ty for your detailed analyses n I hope my rationale assists you in future grade assessments!
That would be correct on a grading scale where each pick is viewed as equal in determining the grade but that just isn’t how it works in an NFL draft. Your higher selections are weighted more. So your rationale doesn’t apply here.
Carter would’ve been immense value. Yeah he would’ve been a project player but he’s an ARMY GUY and not just that but a TALENTED one with fluid movement skills. Of course he’s gonna put the work in to get stronger and put on weight - idk why so many teams passed on him when plenty of players in later rounds or even earlier are project players themselves that take a year or two to begin really producing. We could afford Carter too since we are in a rebuild anyway so we aren’t rushing for a SB this or next year anyway. He would’ve also complimented the huge height thresholds we have at EDGE but difference being that he would’ve been a speed rusher which is STILL an element we are missing.
I'm not thrilled with the Van Ness pick. There were quality Edge prospects available into the 5th round. The Bengals got an identical quality player in the late 20s in Myles Murphy. I wish they would have traded up for one of the top T prospects or traded down for more quality picks. Edge was not the biggest need this year. The ammo could have been used elsewhere. Regarding QB, not thrilled with picking Clifford, but prior to #12's first year as a starter the Packers went with Brian Brohm in the 2nd and Matt Flynn in the 7th. So my problem isn't that they went QB, it is that they went with a QB that I don't think can be a quality NFL starter. But who knows.
415 ranked player (Sean Clifford) out beat the 10 ranked player (Will Levis)... If a QB was taken in the 7th or signed undrafted, the criticism "for not drafting in earlier rounds like the 4th or 5th..."
I wanted them to draft a QB in the 6th/7th. I literally said that in this video. That would have been a proper spot for Clifford... the 7th, where every other team would have selected him.
@@Basaraski , Gute had certain things he was looking for in all players .. I am not saying I studied enough about the QB class, all I know is Clifford had good feet, intelligent and a team leader .. like many say, in them later picks , it's all a crap shout.. Packers seem to draft guys that fit Green Bay, so maybe Clifford was that guy.. I agree with the kicker being to early, but overall I agree with the A .. I think there will be multiple players that will be day 1 contributors
It was a poor safety class as to why I don't think Gute jumped on it .. there are better safeties coming out next year, and maybe that's why Gute build up the safty position with current players because he knew there wasn't any safeties that fit the Packers.. they basically covered all other needs and did a great job, other than the kicker
@@Basaraski drafting a QB in the 6th/7th has only worked out for Tom Brady IMO... No true back up value in those rounds unless you have a true veteran thats already established and the backup market isn't as strong..
@@thomasott9488 poor safety class along with Savage picking it up towards the end of the season along with Rudy Ford coming out no where.... Next year's safety room will look like this year's TE room...
Tough to tag a QB drafted at 170 or something as a D ! He was a Penn State guy. Started for years! Has good measuremnts. The guy probably last longer then 2 or 3 guys drafted top 50!
Sometimes I wonder if Brian Gutekunst would still have a job had Aaron Rodgers not carried the team those first three or four years of Gutekunst's tenure. He gets tremendous value in certain rounds yet has these complete brain farts in multiple rounds and picks almost every draft. When the Packers selected Sean Clifford in the fifth round and Carlson in the sixth, I was like pulling my eyebrows out because the selections made absolutely no sense from the perspective that they could have been acquired as undrafted free agents. They just weren’t that impressive, either. I am from Nebraska, and I’ve been a Packers fan since I was nine years old [33 years]. I am so happy that I ran across your channel because I don’t even have cable or satellite anymore, and I think you cover the Packers tremendously. I appreciate the time you must spend researching all these players. Your knowledge shows in your analysis and breaking down front office issues especially surrounding the draft and the excellent pre-draft coverage, and know your post-draft recap.
I think Colby has the ability to actually play the 5 tech position in ways Lowry couldn’t. He has long arms (Lowry didn’t) and has a quick first step along with lateral agility as well as violent striking hands. As long as they don’t ask him to take on double teams and play him with a guy like Slaton next to him, he could be played out wider which should help our pass rush get better while staying stout against the run as Colby gets stronger. As for Brooks, he should be a high end rotational player overtime that will probably be more of a rush specialist that will get more snaps against weaker running teams so he can just be let loose. I really just hope Slaton takes that leap as the go-to NT because he does offer pass rush ability too. He’s just a mammoth of a man. We could end up with a top 5 defensive line if these guys progress and realize their potential. Time for us to dominate the trenches !! 😤
Im so tired of hearing people say van ness shouldnt be a 1st rounder because he wasnt a starter. He had second most snaps on D. Shows they dont know shit
Your eval of Clifford is way off. You sound like you wanted them to try to draft another starting QB - that is not what they were doing. They were drafting a backup QB. These are two different things and its wonderful that the Packers have figured this out. What you want in a backup quarterback is someone who is 1) comfortable in the pocket 2) has a lot of experience 3) has played under pressure and taken hits 4) has experience leading players and, 5) has had reasonable success. This kid checks all those boxes. He will be ready to be a reasonable backup come week 1. I expect this to be one of the best picks of the Packer's draft.
Clifford was not 5th round talent, that's my point. I never said a "starting QB". He wasn't even ranked on most sites. the Highest he was ranked, was on MD DB at #346. You expect a back-up QB that will get zero snaps unless Love gets hurt, to be the best pick of the Draft? lol
overall B+ draft imo. Jsn and its an A. A guaranteed (almost as close as they come) stud at receiver was too good to pass up, but this approach was also good. I like Reed and Kraft a lot. Would have liked to see more production out of Musgrave at the top of the second round, but I get it, traits are traits. Top potential Packers Free Agents Vid in the future? Great stuff as always, Bas
Van Ness is going to play right away since Gary will be down. He might not start but he'll be playing. In fact the Dlineman are going to play. They have to. The TEs as well. This is a whole different year from those past. Love isn't pushing for vets and the Packers have no money so what you see is what you got. In years past Guttie was constantly bringing guys in for a look. This year that elevates. Draft gets a A- IMO with the QB pick dragging it down.
Clifford is not horrible. 4 year starter, lots of experience. High football IQ. Good qb build. He's a backup for sure, but not that bad of a pick. Just a little early on the selection.
I am so glad they never drafted that over rated receiver. JsN. He will be good in the nfl. But not as good as everyone thinks. Mark my words. Clifford is super smart. He is drafted for back up only.
Sean Clifford getting bad rap on his remember he beat out 2nd rd pick Levi's at Penn state I think Clifford will be a great back up / spot starter starting in 2024
I would have made a different choice at every pick like Jaxson Smith-Njigba Sydney Brown and AT Perry....but as soon as Guety picked them I suddenly loved them! Sean Clifford over the likes of JK Skinner...only a true genius GM says I will take a guy that even Penn St fans don't want.....they were just preying for this guy to leave! But hey, once we sign 13 new players we are on our way! Only my fellow Packer fans are patient, loyal and trusting enough to love a GM who ran one of the greatest WR's in Packer history and one of the best QB's in NFL history out of town! And then flip that to an Inside LB an old average DT, & then yes Watson but we all would have taken him instead of Wyatt and still had 2 second picks! It is easy to be a GM when you inherit an NFL MVP at the most important position in football. I hate that he ruined our shot at an Lombardi and messed up with his arrogant "I am smarter then everyone" drafting and it will screw us for another 7-9 years. FIRE BG!!!
I would bet Deguara is going to be much better without Rodgers here than he was with Rodgers. I think Rodgers was not good for these young WRs like the media said he was. From what I hear is Rodgers was terrible to the young pass catchers who he disliked and Deguara was on his shitlist.
I feel like a lot of Packers nation (not Bas) is hating on Clifford just because he's the only "bad pick" in the draft. I hope people give him a chance and embrace him the same way they did Tim Boyle or Kurt Benkert. Neither of those guys were known for their statistical prowess, just their roles as good team players.
Packer fans are weirdos on stuff. Packers take a QB in the 5th round, he was the last draft able QB on their board. He also plays the most important position on the team. He also beat out Wil Levis for the QB at Penn State. His 2021 tape is better. So if Love gets hurt, and the team has no QB Packer Weirdo fans will bitch, why didn't u draft one.
reed an brooks are steals, i was pissed we couldn't get AT perry cuz he could of been a first day starter thats what i saw in an article an i believe it too cuz i seen tape a year prior. clifford isn't bad as a qb, definitely needs work done. analysts i think said he was skiddish. kicker could of been drafted in 7th, him an clifford. i give the grade B+
Reed is kinda growing on me. I watched what clips I could find on him and he plays with attitude which I think is a breath of fresh air. I comp him to Andre Rison but with more versatility.
I didn't like the picks too much. The Jayden Reed hype train has left the station for real tho. I would have rather seen the pack JSN in round 1 then D washington TE then Banks at safety in round 2. I think Reed would have fallen to round 3. idk I would give this overall draft a C+ score so its a pass but if these players dont pan out in major ways that score will drop fast.
Apparently, TE Wash had some existent knee issues but am unclear why they didn't take him! Every team in the draft should've gobbled up perfect 10-RAS TE Kuntz since he was the 220th pick! Would you have been happier w/ Kuntz at 207 vs our UDFA kicker? I definitely would have...at that late in the draft, it'd have been a steal! Btw, K Carlson got benched mid-season last yr by an 18yo freshman due to erratic performance! I truly hope the K already buried on our depth chart beats him out!
Clifford was the last "draftable" QB on GB's board according to Gutey. I'll take GB's track record on QBs over your's or any other laughingstock on the internet. PS, Gutey said they brought him in to help the QB room, not start, so the parameters that you and everyone else are judging this man on do not apply. You clearly did NOT listen to the press conferences. Your grade is "F"
Kinda bias or homerish. Considering that two of the picks are already injury prone and limited play time. Honest grade: C+ at best. And a kicker at 6? Wtf? Pick them up undrafted not with a 6th round pick. Yet they waste that pick and still draft a pile of players undrafted… Make that make sense
@@bandzdmv also a star player dexter Lawrence was on the board as well. He would have been a much better player for the last 4 years than Gary with the packers, imagine Clark, Lawrence, and the smith's rushing the passer. Instead it's freaking rashan Gary who hasn't had a 10 sack season and packers fans want to celebrate the pick. I like Gary but after this knee injury we really don't know what he is.
Jeffery Simmons also could have been producing for the packers defense, a defense that needed dline help. But people still claim Gary was the right pick.
“A little bit to develop” the Packers may have had some success as a draft and develop team early under TT but we need to stop with that right now. This team has struggled drafting, especially in the 1st round and especially on defense. They keep picking defense and they don’t have much to show for it.
What are we supposed to do, trade all our picks away? If you search it up, we are on of the best 1st round drafters. Not having much to show for it can be for different reasons such as coaching. Many of the picks on defense were literal needs because of the lack of players on defense
Packers making stupid drafts again. They already have a defense. Gary and the 2 Georgia guys from last year draft plus other veterans. They need other areas. Could have picked a top tier QB, TE, etc. But once again lets not go offense. Lets not help Jordan Love. One you did go all in for offense, you picked the dud Love instead of WR for Rodgers. Idiots!!!! Packers upstairs are creatures of habit. Im glad my guy Aaron went to Jets, Im glad few Packers followed him. Im glad Jets got the best TE draft for Rodgers. Thanks Packers. You finally unofficially helped draft a stud offensibe player for Rodgers.
Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping @Manscaped with Code "Bas" at manscaped.com
@@jesusoftheapes I was thinking about doing this soon actually. I'll look into making some stuff. I haven't shaved since I was 16 either, just like to keep it well kept lol
Jayden Reed is gonna be a star. He's automatically WR3. Gonna push for #1 guaranteed
I do not think there are numbers on this WR room. i think we should all look at them multiple. I think the best thing about these past 2 classes is no WR is locked into a type. Chis is a stud inside and out and probably the most dangerous slot wR in the NFL today when he lines up there. Just ask the Bears what they think of Chis in the slot for proof of that. Doubs is probably the most locked into the outside WR spots but he will slide inside a good amount moving forward. The best thing about this class is there are no sure things for defenses to lock into to defend us. I think Reed is not a slot. While he can and will play a lot of it he is a complete WR with outside dominance in his film study. Musgrave and Kraft can also play slot. This team is so much better at skills positions than it has been in decades. We have TEs who can play anywhere and all the WRs can play every spot.
I'm so happy that even Packer fans are sleeping on Doubs
@@kylecorbett4192 I agree I'm thinkin he will take off this season
I think we're sleeping on toure.
He will be number 2. Never a number 1 not tall enough. Not in this system. A slot only.
Don't be hating on my guy Sean! I've waited a LIFETIME to justify buying a Clifford jersey 😂
Big dog Clifford
Imagine my despair when the 49ers drafted Jimmie ward...😢
Sean Clifford's moms response was like "really? oohhh bit of a reach there Green Bay?"
Jayden Reed gives me Steve Smith vibes...
Can’t wait for the minicamp clips from all the new guys!
When does mini camp start ?
@@versacevibezzz1605 OTA's on May 22-23, 25, 30-31.
June 2, 5-6, 8
@@SweetLou15 i just like it as a preview of what’s to come, how people move etc.
Just like we got to see the rapport building up between Watson, Doubs and Love last year…. I’m looking forward to seeing these clips with the new rookies
The thing I like about Jayden Reed is that he doesn't have the RAS score that they look for. That means he impressed them big time with in other places. Looking forward to seeing him cook.
He probably would have if he did any agility drills.
The Packers don’t pick guys because of their RAS. They pick they think are athletic guys, so they end up having a high RAS. I doubt they look at the numbers, they just look for athletes.
I think he performed much better privately than at the combine, as he was battling an eye infection that day.
The Director of Player Personnel Jon-Eric Sullivan said they had his 40 at 4.37 seconds, so presumably the rest of his scores were also higher.
I mean "Kraft" means power in german so he has to be a nice blocker. Go Pack Go from germany
Im liking that Dontavion Wicks pick a lot the more I research him. He looks like the type of reciever you want with a young QB
With as high as some analysts were on Anthony Johnson, I don't think many people would be upset if the Packers drafted him in the 5th instead of Clifford. And if we get Clifford in the 7th, then all is well. So at the end of the day, they got the players they needed.
Fair point
Anyone else here after the season looking back and thinking "man, we NAILED this draft"
I called it. Reed is the next Legendary Packer WR out the 2nd rd and we about to have the best WR room
Yes
Good graft class
I agree our future looks awesome. Lions fans around here in Windsor think we are done. I say wait and see what we have in store. Can’t wait to see our youth perform. It looks great.
I just discovered you this year, and enjoyed your draft thoughts. For fun, I went back to last year's draft grades, and holy shit you did an amazing job! I'm really glad I found you for Packers coverage. Great stuff
Hopefully the packers WR room is like this Christian Watson , Jayden Reed , Romeo Doubs and Grant DuBose
No Toure? He could ball
Been waiting for this! I made my own draft grades so I wanted to compare with you!
Lots of competition for playing time is going to happen this off-season at WR, Edge, Saftey RB3 and TE
Musgrave can block like a beast, i see a robust running game coming this year. I give Green Bay a shot even with a new QB at the helm, this draft was mostly excellent and the Packers got way better outside the QB position..which will remain, for now, as "undetermined".
Full details of the Aaron Rodgers trade:
Jets get:
Aaron Rodgers
Pick 15: Will McDonald, EDGE
Pick 204: Jarrick Bernard-Converse, CB
Pick 220: Zack Kuntz, TE
Packers get:
Pick 13: Lukas Van Ness
2024 conditional 1st/2nd
Pick 42: Luke Musgrave
Pick 207: Anders Carlson
Future cap space
Simplified, it's essentially Rodgers for Musgrave and next year's likely 1st round pick
Also, instead of taking Brian Branch at 45, we moved down for Jayden Reed, Dontavyion Wicks, and Karl Brooks. I like that a bit better.
Final comment... Last year we essentially gave up Davante Adams and our second rounder for Quay Walker and Christian Watson. Time will tell how all 3 of these trades play out.
And, we could've had TE Kuntz, too vs wasted pick on an UFDA pathetic quality kicker! He was so erratic last yr, that at mid-season, an 18yo freshman benched him! And, his plus 50yrd percentage is about 25%! Ugh!
@@greenbaypackerfan14 I like it a whole lot better.
Best packers channel there is
You’re not lying. Bas seems like a cool dude.
I agree... reached on clufford and anders... could have gotten kuntz and jammie( i was hoping for hendon hooker)
Great review! I agree with this as an A draft. Too many reviews don't take into account the average draft is 7 picks. Having 13 is great, so you can take some questionable picks like the QB and K. Most of the picks were solid value from the consensus board, so that was good to see, also. Ted Thompson had an ethos of leaving no stone unturned and finding guys no one else knew about, but Gutie seems to be more of a mainstream guy with a couple of hidden gems.
Like all your grades except your grade on Lew Nichols. I really liked that pick.
As a former teacher, I'm accustomed to grade values. Per your assessments, the numerical values of your individual grades totalled 38.25 pts ÷ 13 guys = 2.94 average. That equates to just under a 'B', so let's call it that! [key: A/4, B/3, C/2, D/1 n F/O]. Another GB podcaster assessed a similar A-grade but he only values R1-3 for roster building! I admired your grade break-outs for all 13 pics. Like you, I agreed, both the QB n K picks were UDFA values (I actually triggered back to the disasterous Will Harrel R1 pick yrs ago! Absolutely top-3 all-time worst R1 pick in GB hx!) Imo, Gutes was on his way to hitting a home run. All he had to do was fall back upon typical high-value/RAS OTs, OGs, WRs or even select all-world perfect RAS TE Kuntz n he'd of established an NFL top draft! Imo opinion (boosted by your detailed analyses), GB attained 38pts or 2.923 ave. Technically, a B- but we're now at the hand grenade/horse-show comparison. Just understand that your opined #'s = a B grade! Since Gutes' last 3 gradeable drafts post-3 yr reviews = D, D+ n C-, it's apparent that he's improving! And, except for S Vernon Scott, all 2022 picks remain on the team but have 2 more yrs to marinate into final grades. I suspect a few of the '22 picks will be let go this yr. Ty for your detailed analyses n I hope my rationale assists you in future grade assessments!
That would be correct on a grading scale where each pick is viewed as equal in determining the grade but that just isn’t how it works in an NFL draft. Your higher selections are weighted more. So your rationale doesn’t apply here.
Please look into brenton cox the udfa... it's crazy how we got that talent... praying the light bulb turns on for the kid
I give it a B+ overall but I like your points
Shoulda picked up Andre carter as a udfa SHOULDA been our last 7th rounder tbh
Carter would’ve been immense value. Yeah he would’ve been a project player but he’s an ARMY GUY and not just that but a TALENTED one with fluid movement skills. Of course he’s gonna put the work in to get stronger and put on weight - idk why so many teams passed on him when plenty of players in later rounds or even earlier are project players themselves that take a year or two to begin really producing.
We could afford Carter too since we are in a rebuild anyway so we aren’t rushing for a SB this or next year anyway. He would’ve also complimented the huge height thresholds we have at EDGE but difference being that he would’ve been a speed rusher which is STILL an element we are missing.
Green bay does what they always do. Draft good players.. but just enough talent to not suck.. but not be in the superbowl every year.
I have a nickname for Reed. Jayden “Bulldog” Reed. Bulldog because of how he plays, muscles his way to contested catches and fights in coverage!!!
🤓
He already got a nickname, they call him Bird.
3:05 comment.. so the eagles get another Georgia defender with chemistry what's that 4 basically building a championship defense in a few years..
Now that the Packers season is over please do a regrade on the Packers 2023 draft. It seems to me they had one of their best draft in years.
This would be a good thing to do 3 years ago draft grades
I'm not thrilled with the Van Ness pick. There were quality Edge prospects available into the 5th round. The Bengals got an identical quality player in the late 20s in Myles Murphy. I wish they would have traded up for one of the top T prospects or traded down for more quality picks. Edge was not the biggest need this year. The ammo could have been used elsewhere. Regarding QB, not thrilled with picking Clifford, but prior to #12's first year as a starter the Packers went with Brian Brohm in the 2nd and Matt Flynn in the 7th. So my problem isn't that they went QB, it is that they went with a QB that I don't think can be a quality NFL starter. But who knows.
415 ranked player (Sean Clifford) out beat the 10 ranked player (Will Levis)... If a QB was taken in the 7th or signed undrafted, the criticism "for not drafting in earlier rounds like the 4th or 5th..."
I wanted them to draft a QB in the 6th/7th. I literally said that in this video. That would have been a proper spot for Clifford... the 7th, where every other team would have selected him.
@@Basaraski , Gute had certain things he was looking for in all players .. I am not saying I studied enough about the QB class, all I know is Clifford had good feet, intelligent and a team leader .. like many say, in them later picks , it's all a crap shout.. Packers seem to draft guys that fit Green Bay, so maybe Clifford was that guy.. I agree with the kicker being to early, but overall I agree with the A .. I think there will be multiple players that will be day 1 contributors
It was a poor safety class as to why I don't think Gute jumped on it .. there are better safeties coming out next year, and maybe that's why Gute build up the safty position with current players because he knew there wasn't any safeties that fit the Packers.. they basically covered all other needs and did a great job, other than the kicker
@@Basaraski drafting a QB in the 6th/7th has only worked out for Tom Brady IMO... No true back up value in those rounds unless you have a true veteran thats already established and the backup market isn't as strong..
@@thomasott9488 poor safety class along with Savage picking it up towards the end of the season along with Rudy Ford coming out no where.... Next year's safety room will look like this year's TE room...
Tough to tag a QB drafted at 170 or something as a D ! He was a Penn State guy. Started for years! Has good measuremnts. The guy probably last longer then 2 or 3 guys drafted top 50!
Sometimes I wonder if Brian Gutekunst would still have a job had Aaron Rodgers not carried the team those first three or four years of Gutekunst's tenure. He gets tremendous value in certain rounds yet has these complete brain farts in multiple rounds and picks almost every draft. When the Packers selected Sean Clifford in the fifth round and Carlson in the sixth, I was like pulling my eyebrows out because the selections made absolutely no sense from the perspective that they could have been acquired as undrafted free agents. They just weren’t that impressive, either.
I am from Nebraska, and I’ve been a Packers fan since I was nine years old [33 years]. I am so happy that I ran across your channel because I don’t even have cable or satellite anymore, and I think you cover the Packers tremendously. I appreciate the time you must spend researching all these players. Your knowledge shows in your analysis and breaking down front office issues especially surrounding the draft and the excellent pre-draft coverage, and know your post-draft recap.
I think from round 5 on, maybe 4, it really doesn't matter all that much where you get the guys just as long you got the guys you want.
I think Colby has the ability to actually play the 5 tech position in ways Lowry couldn’t. He has long arms (Lowry didn’t) and has a quick first step along with lateral agility as well as violent striking hands. As long as they don’t ask him to take on double teams and play him with a guy like Slaton next to him, he could be played out wider which should help our pass rush get better while staying stout against the run as Colby gets stronger.
As for Brooks, he should be a high end rotational player overtime that will probably be more of a rush specialist that will get more snaps against weaker running teams so he can just be let loose.
I really just hope Slaton takes that leap as the go-to NT because he does offer pass rush ability too. He’s just a mammoth of a man. We could end up with a top 5 defensive line if these guys progress and realize their potential. Time for us to dominate the trenches !! 😤
Possible for a salary cap update video? Now that Rodgers is gone and resigning Love through 24
Gotchu tomorrow man
Im so tired of hearing people say van ness shouldnt be a 1st rounder because he wasnt a starter. He had second most snaps on D. Shows they dont know shit
Well I think this draft is going to be impossible to pay for in 4 years but I can not love something like this more. I cannot wait for camp.
with trading down 100 times now we have 13 players!! Yeah...if we sign them all thats 25% of our roster....smart stuff BG
@@bryankarst3881 trading down 100 times? What? They will sign them all.
Your eval of Clifford is way off. You sound like you wanted them to try to draft another starting QB - that is not what they were doing. They were drafting a backup QB. These are two different things and its wonderful that the Packers have figured this out.
What you want in a backup quarterback is someone who is 1) comfortable in the pocket 2) has a lot of experience 3) has played under pressure and taken hits 4) has experience leading players and, 5) has had reasonable success. This kid checks all those boxes. He will be ready to be a reasonable backup come week 1. I expect this to be one of the best picks of the Packer's draft.
Clifford was not 5th round talent, that's my point. I never said a "starting QB". He wasn't even ranked on most sites. the Highest he was ranked, was on MD DB at #346. You expect a back-up QB that will get zero snaps unless Love gets hurt, to be the best pick of the Draft? lol
Lvn turned out realllyyyy good
Who would you have made an A+ at #13 who was available?
If Jalen Carter fell, that would likely be the A+
Carrington vanentine turned out good af
Worst part of this draft were fools blubbering on about JSN 😑 It's almost as if fans have ZERO clue how to draft effectively.
No one will Touch Rodgers TD to Int ratio. That shits just crazy . Sooo
Karl Brooks and Grant Dubose will show out this season
overall B+ draft imo. Jsn and its an A. A guaranteed (almost as close as they come) stud at receiver was too good to pass up, but this approach was also good. I like Reed and Kraft a lot. Would have liked to see more production out of Musgrave at the top of the second round, but I get it, traits are traits. Top potential Packers Free Agents Vid in the future? Great stuff as always, Bas
Van Ness is going to play right away since Gary will be down. He might not start but he'll be playing. In fact the Dlineman are going to play. They have to. The TEs as well. This is a whole different year from those past. Love isn't pushing for vets and the Packers have no money so what you see is what you got. In years past Guttie was constantly bringing guys in for a look. This year that elevates. Draft gets a A- IMO with the QB pick dragging it down.
Clifford is not horrible. 4 year starter, lots of experience. High football IQ. Good qb build. He's a backup for sure, but not that bad of a pick. Just a little early on the selection.
Don’t sleep valentine. Wouldn’t surprise me if he gets clock early
I am so glad they never drafted that over rated receiver. JsN. He will be good in the nfl. But not as good as everyone thinks. Mark my words. Clifford is super smart. He is drafted for back up only.
I wanted Reed or Tank Dell and feel we got the better of the 2.
Brenton Cox Jr was the steal of the draft dude is absolute dawg
I'll just say. Given our recent draft history I'm not really holding my breathe on these guys. But 13 picks is hard to fuck up
Sean Clifford getting bad rap on his remember he beat out 2nd rd pick Levi's at Penn state I think Clifford will be a great back up / spot starter starting in 2024
Are we not concerned about offensive line?
"big holes at tight end." lol
You do have a glorious beard
I would have made a different choice at every pick like Jaxson Smith-Njigba Sydney Brown and AT Perry....but as soon as Guety picked them I suddenly loved them! Sean Clifford over the likes of JK Skinner...only a true genius GM says I will take a guy that even Penn St fans don't want.....they were just preying for this guy to leave! But hey, once we sign 13 new players we are on our way! Only my fellow Packer fans are patient, loyal and trusting enough to love a GM who ran one of the greatest WR's in Packer history and one of the best QB's in NFL history out of town! And then flip that to an Inside LB an old average DT, & then yes Watson but we all would have taken him instead of Wyatt and still had 2 second picks! It is easy to be a GM when you inherit an NFL MVP at the most important position in football. I hate that he ruined our shot at an Lombardi and messed up with his arrogant "I am smarter then everyone" drafting and it will screw us for another 7-9 years. FIRE BG!!!
I would bet Deguara is going to be much better without Rodgers here than he was with Rodgers. I think Rodgers was not good for these young WRs like the media said he was. From what I hear is Rodgers was terrible to the young pass catchers who he disliked and Deguara was on his shitlist.
I would give this class a B+ to A-. Glad to see that most of the fanbase is on the same page with this draft.
I feel like a lot of Packers nation (not Bas) is hating on Clifford just because he's the only "bad pick" in the draft. I hope people give him a chance and embrace him the same way they did Tim Boyle or Kurt Benkert. Neither of those guys were known for their statistical prowess, just their roles as good team players.
Im for sure giving him a chance, I just truly think Safety or OT would have been the way to go there.
@@Basaraski 100% same
Packer fans are weirdos on stuff. Packers take a QB in the 5th round, he was the last draft able QB on their board. He also plays the most important position on the team. He also beat out Wil Levis for the QB at Penn State. His 2021 tape is better. So if Love gets hurt, and the team has no QB Packer Weirdo fans will bitch, why didn't u draft one.
Van Ness and Gary will keep D Cords up at night for years to come
reed an brooks are steals, i was pissed we couldn't get AT perry cuz he could of been a first day starter thats what i saw in an article an i believe it too cuz i seen tape a year prior. clifford isn't bad as a qb, definitely needs work done. analysts i think said he was skiddish. kicker could of been drafted in 7th, him an clifford. i give the grade B+
Just putting a comment saying I like the upside on Clifford so I have a paper trail after Tom Clements works with him on his mechanics.
I'm getting Taysom Hill vibes from Clifford
Reed was a big reach…. Other than that they did amazing days 1 & 2… day 3 was pretty wack aside from 1 great pick
Reed is kinda growing on me. I watched what clips I could find on him and he plays with attitude which I think is a breath of fresh air. I comp him to Andre Rison but with more versatility.
LVN is Gary’s replacement. You heard it here first!
wait so marcedes lewis isnt coming back ??
Musgrave will produce, watch.
Tucker Kraft is Gronk 2.0
QB levis could not be beat out our boy! A D?
I didn't like the picks too much. The Jayden Reed hype train has left the station for real tho. I would have rather seen the pack JSN in round 1 then D washington TE then Banks at safety in round 2. I think Reed would have fallen to round 3. idk I would give this overall draft a C+ score so its a pass but if these players dont pan out in major ways that score will drop fast.
Apparently, TE Wash had some existent knee issues but am unclear why they didn't take him! Every team in the draft should've gobbled up perfect 10-RAS TE Kuntz since he was the 220th pick! Would you have been happier w/ Kuntz at 207 vs our UDFA kicker? I definitely would have...at that late in the draft, it'd have been a steal! Btw, K Carlson got benched mid-season last yr by an 18yo freshman due to erratic performance! I truly hope the K already buried on our depth chart beats him out!
Predicting Sean Clifford will be the starter by week 7
I predict, Clifford will surprise a lot of people, if he gets his chance.
@@11aaf yea because j love is a interception machine and with that I hope they don’t over use aa Jones and he’s hurt all year
Clifford was the last "draftable" QB on GB's board according to Gutey. I'll take GB's track record on QBs over your's or any other laughingstock on the internet. PS, Gutey said they brought him in to help the QB room, not start, so the parameters that you and everyone else are judging this man on do not apply. You clearly did NOT listen to the press conferences. Your grade is "F"
Clifford and Carlson are two of the worst picks by any team in the draft.
Kinda bias or homerish.
Considering that two of the picks are already injury prone and limited play time.
Honest grade:
C+ at best.
And a kicker at 6? Wtf? Pick them up undrafted not with a 6th round pick. Yet they waste that pick and still draft a pile of players undrafted…
Make that make sense
Can we stop with the fans said Gary was a bust. We said he was a project which he was. Brian Burns and Christian Wilkins were both on the board.
And Gary is still a better pick than both
@Basaraski Productions I agree. Just saying at the time how most felt.
@@bandzdmv also a star player dexter Lawrence was on the board as well. He would have been a much better player for the last 4 years than Gary with the packers, imagine Clark, Lawrence, and the smith's rushing the passer. Instead it's freaking rashan Gary who hasn't had a 10 sack season and packers fans want to celebrate the pick. I like Gary but after this knee injury we really don't know what he is.
Jeffery Simmons also could have been producing for the packers defense, a defense that needed dline help. But people still claim Gary was the right pick.
“A little bit to develop” the Packers may have had some success as a draft and develop team early under TT but we need to stop with that right now. This team has struggled drafting, especially in the 1st round and especially on defense. They keep picking defense and they don’t have much to show for it.
What are we supposed to do, trade all our picks away? If you search it up, we are on of the best 1st round drafters. Not having much to show for it can be for different reasons such as coaching. Many of the picks on defense were literal needs because of the lack of players on defense
I can’t say Gary is one of the best. He got hurt before enough to prove he can be one of the best.
Packers making stupid drafts again. They already have a defense. Gary and the 2 Georgia guys from last year draft plus other veterans. They need other areas. Could have picked a top tier QB, TE, etc. But once again lets not go offense. Lets not help Jordan Love. One you did go all in for offense, you picked the dud Love instead of WR for Rodgers. Idiots!!!! Packers upstairs are creatures of habit. Im glad my guy Aaron went to Jets, Im glad few Packers followed him. Im glad Jets got the best TE draft for Rodgers. Thanks Packers. You finally unofficially helped draft a stud offensibe player for Rodgers.
this is an awesome comment. hahahaha
Wow buddy were you wrong 😂
bla bla bla
bla bla bla
bla bla bla
bla bla bla
DON"T HYPE
SO MUCH
Leave the channel. I post what I want
What will be majority of the Pack offense? Chuck 'n Duck or Ground Chuck ?
Give Clifford Number 12!
Van Ness reminds me of former badger Rick Graf. My old school peeps know who I am talking about.
Clifford is a sleeper. He'll be around.