I grew up in Olivette in the 60s and YOU GUYS WEREN"T THERE yet. Hardly anybody was there. You have transformed the ST. Louis area music environment. I mean...the scene.
If I spent as much time practicing what you guys talk about as I do watching what you guys present, I'd be amazing lol. I now know way more than I can implement. Great stuff, guys!
I know that feeling, but these days I pick one small concept and work it every which way for a couple of weeks before moving on to something else. This approach is really working for me now and I can see real tangible improvement. Be strict with yourself.
@@blow-by-blow-trumpet That is what I am trying to do. In the beginning I was eager to just know more and forgot about practicing any of these concepts so it lead me to just being more of a music theorist than a musician.
I took Gary Burton's improvisation course from Berklee and he did not believe in teaching any other scales except for 10 specific ones until you could demonstrate some kind of improvisational proficiency; The 7 modes (in order of brightness to darkness), diminished scale, altered scale, and Lydian b7. Reason being that in the beginning, with scales like blues, pentatonic, etc, it's way too tempting to let your fingers pick out notes instead of your brain creating the melodies... but of course all other scales are covered afterwards. Either way thank you for the vid, was quite informative.
I really appreciate that you guys put these episodes on youtube. I've started following you guys on spotify cause I need more, but I would loooove more video episodes!
I don’t know a lot of theory but I love jazz chording from Herbie in the 70’s , but this half hour has sealed it for me, like I was right all along I know what I love .A big thankyou.
Wow! I had to slow down the keyboard to .25%, but now I’m beginning to have a better understanding of “the blues scale” and I got to learn some cool licks! Thanks to both of you!
There are two whole tone scales which both can be started on six different tonics. There are four half tone whole tone scales each of which can be used for three different keys. This knowledge helps the Jazz soloist to more efficiently organize his approach to practicing the materials. Playing an F major pentatonic over a Bb major seventh chord is a simple way to achieve the celestial sounds that Bird identified while avoiding the tonic.
When I first tried to learn the blues, pre-internet time, I naturally played the major blues scale before I found out about the minor blues scale. The reason is simple: I was first introduced to a bluesy sound not through the blues, but various pop songs with piano (think Elton John, even Guns n' Roses, I mean the list is very large), and I noticed that they commonly use the major blues scale from the key of the song. This is what guitarists do when the play the minor pentatonic over everything (which is like the major blues scale starting on a different note). If you gave me a blues I would have done the same, and it sounded fine. But I didn't realise what is really specific to the blues sound. I remember the first time I actually played the minor blues scale over a major blues, thinking It cannot be right as it doesn't "match" the chords, but at the same time realising that for the first time it REALLY sounded like the blues, and that it was what I had been missing.
Wow! This altered scale of a note a half step down works over a Min/Maj 7. For example a B altered scale sounds great over a Cmaj/min 7 or cm6/9. I just tried this on Nica's Dream and it worked! Bbmaj/min 7 with an A altered and then a "G Altered" over the Abmaj/min7
I see the half-whole diminished as whole-half up from any degree of the rootless b9 synonym of the diminished chord. I'm not sure how much of that is guitar "shapiness" and seeing the neck, but that's what I see. Not saying I don't start/end lines, and generally relate things to the root of the dominant, not like that at all. I just mean in terms of the mental layout, where the notes are without having to think about it.
As far as the reverb goes by the way, I would put a couple of rugs down, one under the desk, one in front of the door, and some diffusers behind each of you (and maybe the wall next to you) those will help break up any sound that bounces from the walls so it doesn't all hit the mic at once (creating thick reverb). Adam's voice is hitting the wall behind Peter and going into Peter's mic (then back to his own) and vice versa!
WOW I'm seeing some interesting things to do with the altered scale. I noticed that the C altered scale can be played over C9 and over Gb7. I noticed that the Gb alter scale can be played over a Gb7 and C9. This is cool!! I stopped at the altered scale
lol, look like a 9' piano w/o the keys...Adam..I love your courses Jazz chords for beginners and the New one you just put out "Magic of voicing". Think I'm gong 2 get it
This video is amaaaszing! Straight schooling us jazz peasants! If there are any teachers here please send this video to your students! PLEASE DO SO!!!!
Use the 5th mode of the harmonic minor over the 5 chord, i.e. use the harmonic minor based on the 1 chord that the 5 is going to, so if you are playing A7 which resolves to D minor, use the D harmonic minor with the A7. You can then continue playing D harmonic minor over the D minor chord, or switch to a different D minor scale when you get to the D minor for more variation.
I like the reference to Louis Armstrong. Miles Davis wasn't joking when he said "The history of jazz can be said in four words: Louis Armstrong, Charlie Parker".
??? Does anyone know about some kind of poster or resource that has , For Guitar , These 4 scale fingerings, associated chords , & when to best use them in context ???
My picks would be diatonic, melodic minor, whole tone and diminished. Using all their modes and sprinkling in some chromatic scale you can get pretty much every sound you'd ever want
Guys, only with the diminished scale you describe what it actually is. With the other three scales you only add more varieties without the basic. Also very fast doesn’t mean better understandable….
I'm curious as to the pianos you use. I've had a Yamaha P125 but it's getting to be limiting. And the keys rattle...badly...some of them. Is this an appropriate question? If I have 1500 to spend, where should I look? I'm juicing on the Yamaha P515 or the Roland RD88.
A "B altered scale works over an F13... This is nuts!!! I'm also noticing reversals (it's what I call them). I played a "B Altered" over a Balt chord and F13 and over those same chords I played an "F altered' scale....Someone help, I see the relation, but can't explain it!!
The Blues scale has one extra added note, the b5 (aka #4, tritone, blue note), making it technically a six note scale, as opposed to the five note "penta-tonic" (penta=5 tonic=tones). As they said it's more of a sound than a scale, you don't go building chords from it or anything. But throwing in the tritone into your minor pentatonic licks make them sound a whole lot more bluesy and dark. The minor pentatonic scale is the 1, b3, 4, 5, b7. The Blues scale is 1, 3, 4, b5, 5, b7. For more of a blues sound, bend/slide/trill (depending on your instrument) up to the b5 from the 4. E.g., [first triplet on beat 4, second triplet (two notes and hold) on the one] (8th note triplets) 𝄽 𝄽 𝄽 {4-b5-4} {3-1- -}
7:10 "You do that if you want to sound like an amateur... actually, if you're really professional you could probably get away with it." Yup... that really is how music is ey.
Haven't watched the video yet but I'm going to go ahead and say Altered Dominant (Locrian b4/Super Locrian). Every note is flattened except the root, give that guy a guy over any altered dominant seventh chords (V7 with a b9, #9, #11 and/or #13). Another way to think of the scale is it starts like diminished scale and ends like a whole tone scale. Fun stuff.
Really if I was told to use 4 scales only, I'd use the 4 scales of chords only. You know, 6th diminished, minor 6th diminished, dominant 7th diminished, dominant 7th b5 diminished. Also, I like to think about the "altered scale" or "lydian dominant" as the synthesis of the diminished scale with the whole tone scale
A trick going up the diminished scale with 4 notes at a time: Just make sure to hit the first note correctly and then plan the dismissed chord starting with that note. It all works out.....you don't even have to think about the notes of the scale.
If I were to guess... That keyboard definitely has midi capabilities and they probably have some program that transfers the midi information into that on screen display.
En el Video hay dos fuentes sonoras superpuestas: Alguien hablando y otro tocando...no es muy didáctico...In the Video there are two superimposed sound sources: Someone talking and another playing...it's not quite didactic...
If these guys changed their style... probably nobody would listen to them. I think it's probably their joie de vivre that's getting to everybody! Nah... Are these guys joyful musicians? Is music sometimes joy, too? Joy Behar. Joy Stick. Joyce. Comedy. UA-cam comedy. I Love Music... Any Kind of Music... I Love Music... just as long as it's grooving (the O'Jays)
This link leads to the Writer's Digest Award winning novel about a jazz musician struggling to fulfill his promise. It's FREE! Musicians love it and I love you guys as mentors and inspirations. @t
Time codes:
3:55 Blues scale
9:37 Altered scale
11:23 Diminished scale
14:05 Pentatonic scale
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I grew up in Olivette in the 60s and YOU GUYS WEREN"T THERE yet. Hardly anybody was there. You have transformed the ST. Louis area music environment. I mean...the scene.
What a lesson this was. Now give me 2 years to practice and internalize them in 12 keys.
And 5 hours everyday!
2 years of practicing for 5 hrs a day would make you an absolute monster
All done? 😂
@@abrahamkim2304 WHAT A TEACHER WE''VE GOT HERE?! NOT ONLY INSTRUCTING BUT ALSO PURSUING. After 3 years...
If I spent as much time practicing what you guys talk about as I do watching what you guys present, I'd be amazing lol. I now know way more than I can implement. Great stuff, guys!
I’m in the same boat captain! Where are we sailing to?!?!
I know that feeling, but these days I pick one small concept and work it every which way for a couple of weeks before moving on to something else. This approach is really working for me now and I can see real tangible improvement. Be strict with yourself.
@@blow-by-blow-trumpet That is what I am trying to do. In the beginning I was eager to just know more and forgot about practicing any of these concepts so it lead me to just being more of a music theorist than a musician.
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I took Gary Burton's improvisation course from Berklee and he did not believe in teaching any other scales except for 10 specific ones until you could demonstrate some kind of improvisational proficiency;
The 7 modes (in order of brightness to darkness), diminished scale, altered scale, and Lydian b7. Reason being that in the beginning, with scales like blues, pentatonic, etc, it's way too tempting to let your fingers pick out notes instead of your brain creating the melodies... but of course all other scales are covered afterwards. Either way thank you for the vid, was quite informative.
You all’s channel so extremely underrated! Please don’t stop making videos!
I really appreciate that you guys put these episodes on youtube. I've started following you guys on spotify cause I need more, but I would loooove more video episodes!
I don’t know a lot of theory but I love jazz chording from Herbie in the 70’s , but this half hour has sealed it for me, like I was right all along I know what I love .A big thankyou.
Best UA-cam channel for jazz musicians ❤️
I’ve watched this a LOT of times. (Just watched it now*). Always great to refresh. 🙏🏾
Love that you guys are back. Need my daily Open Studio fix
Wow this video really reached out to me. I could watch these two all day
Nice banter and playing , fellas.
Adam looking fit bro. Good work!
This is gold nuggets just served up 🙏
Wow! I had to slow down the keyboard to .25%, but now I’m beginning to have a better understanding of “the blues scale” and I got to learn some cool licks! Thanks to both of you!
You both are such an inspiration...even as guitarist ! 😃...thx for your work
There are two whole tone scales which both can be started on six different tonics. There are four half tone whole tone scales each of which can be used for three different keys. This knowledge helps the Jazz soloist to more efficiently organize his approach to practicing the materials. Playing an F major pentatonic over a Bb major seventh chord is a simple way to achieve the celestial sounds that Bird identified while avoiding the tonic.
*3 half whole scales that can each be used for 4 different keys
When I first tried to learn the blues, pre-internet time, I naturally played the major blues scale before I found out about the minor blues scale. The reason is simple: I was first introduced to a bluesy sound not through the blues, but various pop songs with piano (think Elton John, even Guns n' Roses, I mean the list is very large), and I noticed that they commonly use the major blues scale from the key of the song. This is what guitarists do when the play the minor pentatonic over everything (which is like the major blues scale starting on a different note). If you gave me a blues I would have done the same, and it sounded fine. But I didn't realise what is really specific to the blues sound. I remember the first time I actually played the minor blues scale over a major blues, thinking It cannot be right as it doesn't "match" the chords, but at the same time realising that for the first time it REALLY sounded like the blues, and that it was what I had been missing.
Now mix minor and major blues together and it'll start to really sound like the blues.
Wow! This altered scale of a note a half step down works over a Min/Maj 7. For example a B altered scale sounds great over a Cmaj/min 7 or cm6/9. I just tried this on Nica's Dream and it worked! Bbmaj/min 7 with an A altered and then a "G Altered" over the Abmaj/min7
Makes sense. Altered scale is the 7th mode of the melodic minor scale.
You guys are the Click and Clack the Tappet Brothers of music, great stuff!
I can’t get enough of you guys! Thank you
I love your podcast and the guided practice sessions! Great to see you back on here together 🙃
Where can you find their guided practice sessions? Would love to try that out.
I see the half-whole diminished as whole-half up from any degree of the rootless b9 synonym of the diminished chord. I'm not sure how much of that is guitar "shapiness" and seeing the neck, but that's what I see. Not saying I don't start/end lines, and generally relate things to the root of the dominant, not like that at all. I just mean in terms of the mental layout, where the notes are without having to think about it.
You guys are amazing, thank you so much.
These guys are today’s torches of jazz education. 15 stars to Adam Mannes and Peter Martin. Holla!h!
Major and minor 3th :)) Thanks
Missed you guys! Cheers for the great content as always
As far as the reverb goes by the way, I would put a couple of rugs down, one under the desk, one in front of the door, and some diffusers behind each of you (and maybe the wall next to you) those will help break up any sound that bounces from the walls so it doesn't all hit the mic at once (creating thick reverb). Adam's voice is hitting the wall behind Peter and going into Peter's mic (then back to his own) and vice versa!
Totally agree, there's a lot of reverb going on.
WOW I'm seeing some interesting things to do with the altered scale. I noticed that the C altered scale can be played over C9 and over Gb7. I noticed that the Gb alter scale can be played over a Gb7 and C9. This is cool!! I stopped at the altered scale
lol, look like a 9' piano w/o the keys...Adam..I love your courses Jazz chords for beginners and the New one you just put out "Magic of voicing". Think I'm gong 2 get it
This video is amaaaszing! Straight schooling us jazz peasants! If there are any teachers here please send this video to your students! PLEASE DO SO!!!!
This video is gold!
"That's where the plant-based meat is man" hahahaha love that, great video! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks guys, another great video! Can u do a vid on the harmonic minor scale? And applying it over the 5, in a minor 2-5-1?
Use the 5th mode of the harmonic minor over the 5 chord, i.e. use the harmonic minor based on the 1 chord that the 5 is going to, so if you are playing A7 which resolves to D minor, use the D harmonic minor with the A7. You can then continue playing D harmonic minor over the D minor chord, or switch to a different D minor scale when you get to the D minor for more variation.
Big fan of your videos guys!!
Is it only me thinking the table make the piano look like a Grand piano? :) Great video as always!
You and Adam are phenomatastic. I just made up that word.
I like the reference to Louis Armstrong. Miles Davis wasn't joking when he said "The history of jazz can be said in four words: Louis Armstrong, Charlie Parker".
The bonus scale is the Whole tone scale !
Can anyone tell me what type of keyboard/digital piano Peter is using in this video?
??? Does anyone know about some kind of poster or resource that has , For Guitar ,
These 4 scale fingerings, associated chords , & when to best use them in context
???
My picks would be diatonic, melodic minor, whole tone and diminished. Using all their modes and sprinkling in some chromatic scale you can get pretty much every sound you'd ever want
What was the bonus scale?
Guys, only with the diminished scale you describe what it actually is. With the other three scales you only add more varieties without the basic.
Also very fast doesn’t mean better understandable….
I'm curious as to the pianos you use. I've had a Yamaha P125 but it's getting to be limiting. And the keys rattle...badly...some of them. Is this an appropriate question? If I have 1500 to spend, where should I look? I'm juicing on the Yamaha P515 or the Roland RD88.
This is great! Thank you!
wouldn’t the relative major of the c minor blues scale be Eb major blues?? I was confused when he started talking about A as the relative major
A "B altered scale works over an F13... This is nuts!!! I'm also noticing reversals (it's what I call them). I played a "B Altered" over a Balt chord and F13 and over those same chords I played an "F altered' scale....Someone help, I see the relation, but can't explain it!!
What about whole tone scale?
Fingerings for each of these scales?
You forgot the bonus scale or did I miss it?
Hey There! is that a midi keyboard you are using peter? which one if you don't mind me asking.
mad luv!
5# Augmented scale on maj7 chords - minor third, minor second cycle - C, Eb, E, G, Ab, B, C, Seriously, try it out...
Thank u very much, btw, I didn’t understood the pentatonic scale, is not the same as blues?
The Blues scale has one extra added note, the b5 (aka #4, tritone, blue note), making it technically a six note scale, as opposed to the five note "penta-tonic" (penta=5 tonic=tones).
As they said it's more of a sound than a scale, you don't go building chords from it or anything. But throwing in the tritone into your minor pentatonic licks make them sound a whole lot more bluesy and dark.
The minor pentatonic scale is the 1, b3, 4, 5, b7.
The Blues scale is 1, 3, 4, b5, 5, b7.
For more of a blues sound, bend/slide/trill (depending on your instrument) up to the b5 from the 4.
E.g., [first triplet on beat 4, second triplet (two notes and hold) on the one]
(8th note triplets) 𝄽 𝄽 𝄽 {4-b5-4} {3-1- -}
Impressive!
7:10 "You do that if you want to sound like an amateur... actually, if you're really professional you could probably get away with it."
Yup... that really is how music is ey.
At a distance the guy on the right reminds me of Jack Packard.
Can you post a link for the app?
I was waiting for this video...
Love this extra long setup lol
What is the intro song??
I think you forgot the bonus scale haha
Haven't watched the video yet but I'm going to go ahead and say Altered Dominant (Locrian b4/Super Locrian). Every note is flattened except the root, give that guy a guy over any altered dominant seventh chords (V7 with a b9, #9, #11 and/or #13). Another way to think of the scale is it starts like diminished scale and ends like a whole tone scale. Fun stuff.
@@KiraPlaysGuitar that was the second scale
@@anthonysilva5312 Yeah, I watched it afterwards. It was just a weird, dumb guess.
@@KiraPlaysGuitar not dumb at all! Altered scale is a go to jazz choice! Cheers!
In France, they call the blues scale "the scale of many capabilities".
Four(4) scales that every jazz musician *betta' had know* lol
Really if I was told to use 4 scales only, I'd use the 4 scales of chords only. You know, 6th diminished, minor 6th diminished, dominant 7th diminished, dominant 7th b5 diminished.
Also, I like to think about the "altered scale" or "lydian dominant" as the synthesis of the diminished scale with the whole tone scale
What was the bonus scale?
20 fingers+4 huge ears = I’mma need some practice
and... the bonus scale?
Whats the tool you think about learning music ?
Oh, maaan !
A trick going up the diminished scale with 4 notes at a time: Just make sure to hit the first note correctly and then plan the dismissed chord starting with that note. It all works out.....you don't even have to think about the notes of the scale.
Whats with the "SIMP" sticker on Adam's Macbook?
no kinkshaming pls 😂
@@Breakbeat90s lol :)
How do you guys get that keyboard to show up at the bottom of the screen in your videos?
If I were to guess... That keyboard definitely has midi capabilities and they probably have some program that transfers the midi information into that on screen display.
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Impressionante
Yall. Etter teach the people
And the link to that Beta test thingie
who's the bald dude he's dope
🙏🙏
Julie
En el Video hay dos fuentes sonoras superpuestas: Alguien hablando y otro tocando...no es muy didáctico...In the Video there are two superimposed sound sources: Someone talking and another playing...it's not quite didactic...
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A D alt works over an Ab13......
these two man are only conversation choaches???
great explanations however so fast to understand :(
Who else gotta a problem with the spellings that are appearing on youtube screen nowadays guys 🤔
What pandemic?
blablablablablablaba.... make music, show music, teach music, but come to the point....
Then go away
You all talk too much. Please teach more with your playing and do less talking.
It's completely unorganised and endless chat, not very useful
If these guys changed their style... probably nobody would listen to them.
I think it's probably their joie de vivre that's getting to everybody! Nah... Are these guys joyful musicians? Is music sometimes joy, too? Joy Behar. Joy Stick. Joyce. Comedy. UA-cam comedy.
I Love Music... Any Kind of Music... I Love Music... just as long as it's grooving (the O'Jays)
Dude this lessons was priceless good. With high quality for more advanced players..
Be happy these legends give us lessons for free!!
Jazz is the diarrhea of music.
hard disagree but you do you
As the ass of music you know first shot.... LOL
Low IQ spotted
This link leads to the Writer's Digest Award winning novel about a jazz musician struggling to fulfill his promise. It's FREE! Musicians love it and I love you guys as mentors and inspirations. @t
What was the bonus scale?