First Time Watching The Hunger Games: Catching Fire Movie Group Reaction

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  • @j4rnusky
    @j4rnusky Рік тому +896

    Mockingjay is not bad at all. It's just that people don't understand that the series never was about the games... I think it was way better they split the last movies. I don't want a 4 hour long movie. Both movies had important parts.

    • @sortastupid
      @sortastupid  Рік тому +386

      After finishing the series, this was definitely my take away. Even though the series was named after them, they were only ever the set up to the issues that followed. I'm glad they split them up in the end. It was needed.

    • @davidfairweather3301
      @davidfairweather3301 Рік тому +32

      This isn’t entirely true. Even Francis Lawrence said his time limit for completing Mockingjay was too short so to make the best out of the two films was obviously a difficult task for him. I also think another problem was the fact Divergent and Maze runner movies came in and they all end with a cliche “overthrowing the government story” so of course people would feel a bit less inclined to be excited about it.

    • @arcadius2569
      @arcadius2569 Рік тому +32

      Yeah, it's at the end where being in Katniss' head is most important, and you get that in the books. I think Mockingjay still did a great job. I love the whole series.

    • @whizzardblizzard5696
      @whizzardblizzard5696 Рік тому +5

      I think the reason why most people canned the third one is because they were still reeling from the games itself. And with that I’ll not spoil further

    • @smdownh9
      @smdownh9 Рік тому

      @@sortastupid the jaberjays are in all the districts they just recorded them all the time and used what they had

  • @hamjam1745
    @hamjam1745 Рік тому +86

    Katniss’ mom isn’t juiced up 🤣 she’s a doctor, that’s why she has morphine on hand

    • @woops30
      @woops30 Рік тому +5

      and she was shaking because of trauma, they show it in the first movie because of her husband dying in the coal mines

    • @ChrisTheWeak
      @ChrisTheWeak Рік тому +3

      She is "juiced up." In the books it's explained that she takes a drug called morphling. I'm pretty sure it's a fictional drug that is similar to morphine.
      She allegedly takes it for headaches, but it's described that she uses it to deal with her grief.

  • @careyschave5675
    @careyschave5675 Рік тому +52

    This is probably my favorite of the series in both books and movies. The clock arena is the sickest idea.

  • @chilibreath
    @chilibreath Рік тому +11

    The--uh---throwing up during a feast is allegedly a callback to what the Romans in high society used to do. I say "allegedly" because it seems that was a historical misconception, but Suzanne Collins (author of the Hunger Games novels) decided to put that in the books to underscore the excessive lifestyle of the Capitol.

  • @crimsonknight7011
    @crimsonknight7011 Рік тому +10

    Haymitch won the 50th Hunger Games where there were 48 tributes. The arena was absolutely beautiful but was insanely deadly with a peaceful mountain turning out be an active volcano that killed many of them.
    He won by finding out that the arena border when something was thrown at it the object would bounce back to where it came from. The last tribute threw her axe at him and he ducked so it hit the border and the ax flew back at her and killed her. Snow felt embarrassed that he won that way so for punishment he had Haymitch’s family executed

  • @TheRealTezzandra
    @TheRealTezzandra Рік тому +14

    Thier houses are not in the capital just a "better" part of 12 where they built houses for the future winners of district 12. That is why Peeta is living with Haymitch in one house and Katniss with her family in another.

  • @LoryK98
    @LoryK98 Рік тому +6

    Literally the last sentence of the book is: "There is no more District 12."

    • @sortastupid
      @sortastupid  Рік тому +5

      That makes it sound way more intense, I like that

  • @svgstarlight
    @svgstarlight 10 місяців тому +1

    “this feels sus but i don’t know it feels sus” is exactly what goes through katniss’ mind the entire book

  • @tenassidy3483
    @tenassidy3483 Рік тому +1

    Each district has a victors village, with pre-built houses that victors and their families move into when they win. the other houses are all empty.

  • @offensivelyaverage9110
    @offensivelyaverage9110 Рік тому +5

    Is it just me or did the overlap get way harder to see through once the games started. Couldn’t really see the chimps scene at all.

  • @profox956
    @profox956 Рік тому +4

    I love the little face profiles of you guys! Though I feel like Boom's hat should be faced forward instead of back but to each their own :P

  • @joshuacoldwater
    @joshuacoldwater Рік тому +1

    39:16 “Well I guess they can’t kill every single one of them…” Me- OH NO

  • @g.d.graham2446
    @g.d.graham2446 Рік тому +7

    Besides the remaining Hunger Games, would you guys consider doing the LOTR trilogy or Transformers 1-3? Your guys' reactions are the best 😁

  • @dalton6173
    @dalton6173 2 місяці тому

    The person in the background that y'all pointed out in this movie well in the story they don't have a tongue... The little things that you don't get whenever you don't read the books...

  • @kelserin
    @kelserin 7 місяців тому

    mags death wasnt bad cause we didnt see her ''do a funny little dance'' as horribly described in the books.

  • @allyosmond7414
    @allyosmond7414 Рік тому +6

    Just a thought. Maybe you wouldn’t have such a negative view on this series being a teenage trashy movie if you stopped talking so much and listened to the dialogue you’d understand the whole point of the movie. I turned it off because the over-talking and ridiculously immature statements made it unbearable. I see others trying to explain it all to you but I can tell you just don’t listen. I happily will. Even reactors who may not like the movies, they DONT speak over it and not hear any dialogue then have the audacity to ask what happened, bc they were too busy talking over each other & the entire movie. Again just a thought.

    • @sortastupid
      @sortastupid  Рік тому +1

      We thought the movies were awesome. So yes clearly you didn’t watch the video. Have a great day 😁

  • @jaxcraft2848
    @jaxcraft2848 Рік тому

    14:27: That's fucked up! WHAT!?

  • @rosalocalinda
    @rosalocalinda 4 місяці тому

    I didn't think mockingjay was bad. It's a good story through and through but i think people enjoy it less because it's so freaking depressing. Katniss is suffering so much, and her mindset is so poor in the last book i find it harder to enjoy.

  • @adzonwebb4562
    @adzonwebb4562 Рік тому +2

    I couldn’t watch what you all watchin. please make it more transparent

    • @bmgfrosty7089
      @bmgfrosty7089 9 місяців тому

      Ikr it's damn near invisible what even the point if they're that afraid of copyright

  • @aer4799
    @aer4799 Рік тому

    39:15 - famous last words

  • @Skye_Writer
    @Skye_Writer 8 місяців тому

    11:20 She is 17 years old my dude. No, she should not be living with him, even if he is only a year older than she is.

  • @jaxcraft2848
    @jaxcraft2848 Рік тому +1

    You guys look at Rotten Tomatoes and not the audience scores?

    • @sortastupid
      @sortastupid  Рік тому

      We looked at both. Even said we looked at both in the video

  • @TheMeghanmh
    @TheMeghanmh Рік тому

    Ok. Movie 3 had the lowest ratings, because it is more or less sets the foundation for the final movie. If they had tried to make the third book in just one movie, it would have been a 3.5 hour movie.

  • @matthewreynolds8618
    @matthewreynolds8618 Рік тому

    yall have to do the riddick series

  • @aracelyd7523
    @aracelyd7523 Рік тому

    WOOOO EARLY EOOOO CANT WAIT

  • @dilaylad1903
    @dilaylad1903 Рік тому

    When you pause too much and always go back a bit, the subtitles get out of sync

  • @idk2933
    @idk2933 9 місяців тому +2

    Y’all talk too much

    • @sortastupid
      @sortastupid  9 місяців тому

      “for me” finished your sentence for ya 😁

    • @errrrrrr-
      @errrrrrr- 5 місяців тому +1

      @@sortastupid No, y'all definitely talk too much

  • @hamjam1745
    @hamjam1745 Рік тому +638

    Haymitch is the victor of the 50th hunger games, the second quarter quell. The twist for that game was that they took double the tributes from each district, for a total of 48 children. Haymitch winning his game was nothing short of a miracle.

    • @gracielasea
      @gracielasea Рік тому +177

      And then, when he came home everyone he cared about (his whole family and I think his girlfriend?) had been killed because he won the games in a way that embarrassed the Game Makers. So… yah, he’s been through it.

    • @GMDTurbo
      @GMDTurbo Рік тому +12

      @@gracielasea How did Haymitch win again?

    • @Clay5652
      @Clay5652 Рік тому +101

      He won by abusing the arena, using an abyss that threw whatever you throw into back at you. Tricking the final opponent who was a better fighter to throw an axe into it, and it came out to fly into their head, leaving Haymitch the victor.

    • @scaryghost5721
      @scaryghost5721 Рік тому +32

      @@GMDTurbo btw in the Abbys there is a Force Field a.k.a. The Edge of the Arena, so when you thrown something at a Force Field its bounce back. Just like Peeta when hitting the Force Field.

    • @resurgingflame
      @resurgingflame 8 місяців тому +1

      Wait 50th?! So in this movie, 25 years has passed since he became a winner? Jesus. In what age he did that?

  • @gracegaert
    @gracegaert Рік тому +457

    The reason why mockingjay is ranked so low is because that ranking came from the movie-only audience. The book fan base was generally very pleased with the mockingjay movies because we understood what was really happening because we knew what she was thinking

    • @marslara
      @marslara Рік тому +26

      I never read the books and I really liked the last 2, I actually like those 2 the best 😂
      I think it's just one of those movies that score badly amongst critics for some reason. I'm genuinely shocked they scored way lower tbh since I thought most people liked them

    • @DavidMichaelson-j7n
      @DavidMichaelson-j7n Рік тому +4

      I do like this one better...book as well. And I was not sure I liked all of what they did (even in the book) with it. Somewhat unconvincing. BUT, I did think it was quality and the internal conflicts, the PTSD, were BRILLIANTLY done. It deserves kudos for that. I admit I do not always watch the reactions to those. It is more of a commitment. But they are very much worthwhile movies.
      Guess I need to get the prequel. Wasn't expecting it.

    • @XxXDestroyer
      @XxXDestroyer Рік тому +3

      I think it has more to do with how good Caching Fire was, it's usually regarded as the best film. So it was a very hard act to follow and many people were left disappointed when it wasn't as strong of a film.

    • @BritneeFuckingStar
      @BritneeFuckingStar 4 місяці тому

      The book fanbase actually like the movie more than the book because in the book the death of Snow was unclear.

    • @rosalocalinda
      @rosalocalinda 4 місяці тому

      Nah because I feel the same way about the last book too. Sure you should read it if you really want to see how the story ends but you can just as well skip it. Katniss is super miserable in the last book/last 2 movies and we lost a lot of the characters a lot of us loved. I don't think it's weird that people seem to enjoy it less than the first 2.

  • @i_think_i_am_lost
    @i_think_i_am_lost Рік тому +513

    Peeta is the one that did the painting of Rue.
    I'm generally happy with the adaptations EXCEPT for that Peeta kept his leg.
    He was supposed to have it so damaged in the first games that they had to amputate it and give him a prosthetic.
    Which gave more reason as to why Katniss is so protective of him.
    And I disagree that making part 1 and part 2 was a cash grab.
    The 3rd book was PACKED with information, and they didn't even cover all of the stuff that happened.
    It would've been WAY too watered down if mocking-jay was trimmed into 1 movie.

    • @dxnes5067
      @dxnes5067 Рік тому +42

      yea splitting it was good, but the book just didnt have enough action in it to satisfy viewers

    • @barroslucasc
      @barroslucasc Рік тому +15

      ​​@@dxnes5067 Exactly. It somewhat had too much happening but also not enough happening.

    • @willpina
      @willpina Рік тому +31

      Also, Peeta losing his leg kinda explains why he was such a burden the whole time to everyone else during the games, whereas in the movie he's such a damsel in distress that it becomes annoying to the point that you wish they would just leave him behind.

    • @darkwolf1202
      @darkwolf1202 Рік тому +15

      @@willpina they downplayed Peeta to make Gale look better.

    • @earthing3696
      @earthing3696 Рік тому +9

      ​@@darkwolf1202 and it didn't work for 14 yr old me😆😆🤣🤣🤣

  • @galaxa13
    @galaxa13 Рік тому +299

    I love "They're not gonna send her back into the Hunger Games" and meanwhile I'm just sitting here waiting for them to find out that's exactly what happens.

  • @katnip393
    @katnip393 Рік тому +242

    "I mean, they're not gonna throw her back in the hunger games...."
    Suuuuure, they would never do something like change the rules 😅

    • @sortastupid
      @sortastupid  Рік тому +58

      Oops 😂

    • @katnip393
      @katnip393 Рік тому +30

      It was so perfectly wrong it almost felt like a prediction in its own way 😂

    • @bowsercastle
      @bowsercastle 4 місяці тому +4

      bree’s face when he said that 😭

  • @gracegaert
    @gracegaert Рік тому +253

    Village Explanation:
    If you’re a Victor you’re automatically a mentor, if there’s 3 or more, they take turns. The other districts have at least 4 usually more. Every district has their own Victors Village. It’s part of the “prize” for winning.

    • @anonomas6126
      @anonomas6126 Рік тому +2

      The female victors mentor the female tributes same with the males.

    • @Hey_Jamie
      @Hey_Jamie Рік тому +3

      @@anonomas6126 no, they don’t. How Grace explained it is how it is

    • @danielcooper3332
      @danielcooper3332 11 місяців тому +9

      @@anonomas6126 Mags was Finnicks mentor so that immediately invalidates your statement.

    • @rosalocalinda
      @rosalocalinda 4 місяці тому

      ​@@anonomas6126nope.

  • @SoapyTurtles
    @SoapyTurtles Рік тому +199

    Don't let the reviews fool you, Mockingjay Part 1 and 2 are as good as the first movie! Nothing can top Catching Fire, it's on a whole new level, but the other movies are all on par with each other. I can't explain why the 3rd and 4th movies got worse reviews without spoilers, but let's just say the people who gave it bad reviews were people who wanted action without deeper meaning.

    • @sortastupid
      @sortastupid  Рік тому +78

      We really enjoyed all of the movies. We didn't understand the hate the last two get.

    • @SoapyTurtles
      @SoapyTurtles Рік тому +37

      @@sortastupid Oh, so you've seen them all! yeah, the last two movies got hate because they didn't have any Hunger Games in them and people were expecting a grander finale, like lots of vengeance and satisfaction, but that wasn't the point of the series at all, ya know? It's just unfortunate that people watched those movies and never even tried to understand the point of it. /:

    • @calzoneyed
      @calzoneyed 10 місяців тому +3

      @@SoapyTurtlesYeah, it's kind of scary to see so many people wanting vengeance like certain characters in the books. 😅

  • @ericwatson1590
    @ericwatson1590 Рік тому +136

    So, something about the books that the movies cut out that I think you should know is that Haymitch won the 50th Hunger Games or the 2nd Quarter Quell and the gimmick of that was double the number of tributes so 2 male 2 female. Haymitch ended up forming an alliance with a girl from his district named Maysilee after she saved his life. Together, they reached the edge of the arena which was a cliff beyond that Haymitch discovered a force field that bounced anything thrown off the cliff back. When it came down to the final 5 Maysilee, not wanting to end up in a situation where they'd have to try to kill each other, left Haymitch. Sometime later Haymitch heard her scream and ran to help her but was just a little too late and had to watch her die. Haymitch was one of the last 2 the other being a girl from IIRC one of the Career districts where they dealt serious injuries to each other. Haymitch managed to lead the girl to the cliff and she threw her last weapon, an axe, at him. They both were too injured to keep fighting and so the girl thought that the winner would be who survived their injuries longer. But since Haymitch knew of the forcefield he was ready for when the axe returned and dodged it while it killed the girl making him the victor. But since the capital didn't like how he won since using their forcefield made them look stupid in their eyes they punished Haymitch by killing his entire family and his girlfriend. Which on top of having to watch kids dying as he tried to mentor them for decades understandably messed him up.

  • @gdesiree29
    @gdesiree29 Рік тому +87

    40:36.
    That is an avox. They are people who were rebels against the capitol so their punishment is cutting their tongues out. So they are servants to the tributes and the citizens

    • @anonomas6126
      @anonomas6126 Рік тому +9

      And work in the sewers basically anything that capital citizens wouldn’t do.

  • @crimsonknight7011
    @crimsonknight7011 Рік тому +61

    Just think how happy the 18 year olds were at this reaping since it was the last they would ever have to be part of it, yet there was 0% chance of them getting picked

    • @ReviewersGuildArSR
      @ReviewersGuildArSR 10 місяців тому +7

      Unless there was a quarter quell that had rules of no age limits on tributes. But thankfully, the 75 was the last game.

  • @caxtonpetri753
    @caxtonpetri753 Рік тому +59

    The person in the background at 40:27 y'all paused to talk about is an Avox. People from the capital or districts who rebelled or ran away and were captured by the capital. They have their tongues cut out and their mouths sort of sewn shut and are forced into being servant like slaves for the capital for the rest of their lives.
    It got cut for time but Katniss sort of had a connection to the Avox serving her in the first two books as she recognized them as a girl she saw one time running away in the woods. She was out hunting and saw a guy and a girl running away in the woods and they were chased down and picked up by one of the capitals hoverships. Katniss was hidden well enough she wasn't seen but it stuck with her because her and the girl made eye-contact while the girl was being captured and she couldn't do anything.
    Avoxs were a sort of big minor plot element throughout the books as yet another form of capital oppression and show of force that was always in the contestants face. Like here is a servant that sort of implies "if you rebel against us and we decide not to kill you this is what you could look forward to."

  • @meganhutcheson5867
    @meganhutcheson5867 Рік тому +72

    The reason Finnik has such a close relation to mags is in the books. She pretty much raised him.

    • @clover2739
      @clover2739 Рік тому +24

      They kind of say that in the movie as well, Haymitch says when introducing finnick that mags is his weakness and that she practically raised him

  • @michellehawk282
    @michellehawk282 Рік тому +93

    In the first movie it's explained that to get food in the outer districts, which are also the poorest ones, reapable children have to enter their names in the reaping pools in order to get food. It's called the tessera system and is the only way for them to not starve, but also makes them more likely to get picked for the Hunger Games as their names are being entered every time they go get new food. That's why Katniss secretly goes hunting, to prevent her and above all Prim, from having to put her name in the reaping pool.

    • @witzitzilin
      @witzitzilin Рік тому +5

      I think she and Gale did actually enter their names, just not Prim

    • @michellehawk282
      @michellehawk282 Рік тому +7

      @@witzitzilin They all have put their names in the reaping pool at least once, otherwise Prim wouldn't have been chosen in the beginning but i'm pretty sure Katniss goes hunting when she can to keep the amount of names of her and Prim as little as possible, to decrease the risk of getting picked. That's why Katniss told Prim, after she got picked, to not go pick up food but ask Gale instead so she wouldn't have to put her name in there again.

    • @AnnekeOosterink
      @AnnekeOosterink Рік тому +7

      @@michellehawk282 Correct on Prim's name, but not on Katniss's name. Katniss is in 20 times, and Gale 42 because Gale has a larger family than Katniss.

    • @SL22798
      @SL22798 Рік тому +7

      In the books Katniss actually does put her name in as many times as she can to help feed her family, but she never lets Prim do it, and when she's off to her first games, she makes Gale promise to help feed them and take up the mantle of preventing Prim from putting her name in more times.

  • @EditDeath
    @EditDeath Рік тому +53

    That final shot blows me away every time. Jennifer Lawrence's face runs through a full gamut of emotions before finally settling on rage, and you see the whole damn process. It's an amazing bit of acting on her part to get so much across, that the music ends up only supporting it instead of doing the heavy lifting to get the moment across

  • @yuri-bh1bz
    @yuri-bh1bz Рік тому +40

    I heard someone say
    "Shouldn't they live together???"
    In the books it explained that Katniss and peeta was like too young, and her mother said in an interview that she still kinda is not sure about katniss' and peeta's relationship. This works out well for katniss since all of their relationship is an act.

  • @Sophie-mv7bd
    @Sophie-mv7bd Рік тому +74

    I will never understand why people say mockingjay is bad

    • @sortastupid
      @sortastupid  Рік тому +36

      After finishing the series, we don't get it either.

    • @Sophie-mv7bd
      @Sophie-mv7bd Рік тому +5

      @@sortastupid good to know lol

    • @davidfairweather3301
      @davidfairweather3301 Рік тому +1

      Mockingjay had its fair share of problems. They split the movie into two parts which is already a bad idea. Sure he might make more money overall but it annoys the fan base, especially those that read the book. If you’re Harry Potter then yeh after 6-7 books sure split the last one into two parts, but the Hunger Games wasn’t that.
      Second, Francis Lawrence (the director) said his time frame for
      Completing mockingjay was pretty short meaning mistakes would be made, and corners would be cut. A lot of mockingjay took place in 13 which was miserable and gloomy and a huge contrast to the first two movies.
      The games - yes no games. Some argue that whoever complains about this didn’t understand the social and political commentary that the story opened up. As somebody who did understand it, mockingjay still felt flat. The two movies especially, and if you consider that the Maze Runner and Divergent movies had started to release; they all end with the cliche “overthrowing the government arc” so it’s the problem of having a very interesting concept and two books full of opportunities for great storytelling, all have to be removed for the sake of the conclusion. Whatever Hunger Games fan that says they didn’t enjoy the games aspect and the entire build up to it is a big fat liar because that’s why they picked up the book to begin with.

    • @jaysax7381
      @jaysax7381 Рік тому +11

      Simple: they wanted violence and didn’t like having to think critically / can’t focus on films without keys dangling in their faces the whole time

    • @davidfairweather3301
      @davidfairweather3301 Рік тому +1

      @@jaysax7381 simply not true. Acting like mockingjay part 1 and 2 were perfect films, even the book got mixed reviews.

  • @MewDenise
    @MewDenise Рік тому +63

    Each district have their own handler, yes. Effie...is... If I remember correctly from the books.... She has been a handler for 12 for some years and has only seen the kids die, so she was very happy when she finally got winners. I believe she got more opportunitets and invites to the highest of the highest elite gatherings in the capital after they won.
    Someone correct be if I have mixed fanficion/headcanon in here.

  • @BeneathFullMoon
    @BeneathFullMoon Рік тому +26

    About the color banter (still watching): it makes sense in-universe for Peeta to give a specific answer since he paints. Katniss, on another hand, has never done anything remotely similar to art, so she probably never stopped to think about it until he asked. Great video as always! Loved the new banner.

  • @cristopherj1324
    @cristopherj1324 Рік тому +30

    I hate the slander Green gets, green IS the ultimate CREATIVE COLOR! literally the color of Creation and so beautiful 🥰💚

    • @nixllamas9823
      @nixllamas9823 Рік тому +4

      Omg I was rolling my eyes during that entire segment lol. What a horrible take.

    • @permets2apollox453
      @permets2apollox453 Рік тому +3

      Green is not a creative colour

    • @cristopherj1324
      @cristopherj1324 Рік тому +1

      @@permets2apollox453 📕🔫

  • @meganhutcheson5867
    @meganhutcheson5867 Рік тому +25

    Actually, in the books, Katniss did pay more for things when she was buying stuff. Knowing that a lot of them even though they were in the merchant area of the district, she found out that the people and the merchant area aren’t as well off as she originally thought.

  • @meganhutcheson5867
    @meganhutcheson5867 Рік тому +18

    What aspect that I really enjoy with Peeta’s interview, is when he mentioned the baby, there was an immediate uproar, like we can’t send a pregnant woman into the hunger games, but yet you sent in at times prepubescent children to kill each other where do you draw the line?

    • @Skye_Writer
      @Skye_Writer 8 місяців тому +8

      I don't think it was because she was _a_ pregnant woman so much as she was the Capitol's darling favorite girl. They wanted her and Peeta to get this fairytale happy ending of a life together and a home and children, and it was bad enough the "star-crossed" lovers might be lost, but now the Capitol might lose their kid, too. Remember, they are celebrities now, and just like our own culture, "fans" became obsessed with them and their lives and their families.

    • @Sarah-kc3fb
      @Sarah-kc3fb Місяць тому +2

      Kind of like when people are more upset about abortions that actual living children dying or living in catastrophic social environments

  • @darkwolf1202
    @darkwolf1202 Рік тому +9

    peeta's family isn't a loving one. his mom hs horrible to him, his dad a whimp and his brothers feel nothing for him.

  • @meganhutcheson5867
    @meganhutcheson5867 Рік тому +20

    Yes, to answer your question, the animals that live outside the district, such as deer and squirrels and stuff is “property” of the capital, so if you were there and you were to kill a turkey that wondered into where your houses you kill it, you could be punished for killing capital game.

  • @Hey_Jamie
    @Hey_Jamie Рік тому +7

    Her wrongness and lack of explanation when they’re confused is so god damn frustrating and irritating. It’s the lack of critical thinking for me

  • @saulocassiano2617
    @saulocassiano2617 Рік тому +24

    The two other movies aren't bad and they were defenitely necessary. Actually, although catching fire is the most enjoyable one, the next two are what this story is really about

  • @meganhutcheson5867
    @meganhutcheson5867 Рік тому +23

    I think with prim, since the capital has eyes everywhere, more than likely including the houses, they got her screaming for Katniss the morning before prims reaping.

    • @danielcooper3332
      @danielcooper3332 11 місяців тому +1

      In the books beetee explains that they can manipulate audio recordings of people's voices to sound however they want. All they had to do was interview the friends and families then distort the audio into screams.

  • @Flugel_Halogen
    @Flugel_Halogen Рік тому +14

    Finnick is one of my favorite characters because he's so different from what they were setting up to be. they set him up to be the jerk who tries to kill main character after his only reason for being in the games got killed but instead he was a loyal dude bro

  • @saulocassiano2617
    @saulocassiano2617 Рік тому +12

    If you stop to think for a few seconds, you'll think several reasons why It doesn't make sense thinking the Victors Village is in the capital

  • @dlweiss
    @dlweiss Рік тому +45

    Glad you guys are enjoying this series (and I'm a big fan of your reactions), but I'd like to offer one small suggestion: I hope you can stop thinking of these movies as "just some cheesy teenage YA action films" and dismissing your own investment/enjoyment of them. It kinda feels like you guys were expecting some lightweight silly films, and so you feel self-conscious (or even embarrassed) about actually caring about these characters/plots.
    Yes, this series happens to have a teenage protagonist (and a half-assed love triangle in the background), but at its core it's really a very harrowing parable about war, revolution, and the way societies crumble and reform. So I hope for the next two movies you can let yourselves just engage with the movies in front of you, rather than dismissing them as disposable "teenage" films.

    • @sortastupid
      @sortastupid  Рік тому +13

      We didn't see them as disposable teenage films, we're just having fun as friends. We liked the series a lot.

    • @dlweiss
      @dlweiss Рік тому +3

      @@sortastupid Oh awesome, good to know! I've seen how invested you guys get with other material (like The Last of Us) and just hoped you weren't cheating yourselves out of fully enjoying these movies. Thanks for the reply! :)

  • @cyberingcatgirls7069
    @cyberingcatgirls7069 Рік тому +5

    This franchise is really a cautionary tale about late stage capitalism. If the working class is pushed too far, it's over.
    There's nothing more dangerous than a person with nothing left to lose.

  • @thesleepyfable3902
    @thesleepyfable3902 Рік тому +14

    Spoilers: They don't show it in the films but Haymitch won the 50th games, which had double the amount of tributes. He won because he used the game's force-field to his advantage as it bounced back whatever was thrown into it. The district 1 girl threw an axe at him which he dodged, so it was thrown back into her head. For this however, Haymitch's family was killed because Snow saw it as cheating.

  • @randyzochoa6358
    @randyzochoa6358 10 місяців тому +6

    Each district has its own victor’s village. Katniss’ village is so empty because almost no one from her district has won.

  • @JayietheRiverWarrior
    @JayietheRiverWarrior 9 місяців тому +4

    Actually Katniss’s favorite color does tell you something about her as a character. Her favorite color is green because it reminds her of hunting in the forest, the place she feels most at home. The book is more outright in saying that, admittedly.

  • @meganhutcheson5867
    @meganhutcheson5867 Рік тому +12

    So, Victor’s village is given to the people that won the hunger games, and if those victors have family members, they can come to live with him in that house, if they so choose. However, if the victor were to die, in some sort of accident, then the family would have to leave that house because they didn’t win the hunger games.

  • @ILEEGAL143
    @ILEEGAL143 Рік тому +16

    Hunger games will always be number one in my heart next to other dystopian novels such as maze runners and the legend series❤❤❤

  • @wronqa
    @wronqa Рік тому +5

    39:14 this gesture comes from district 12 so I don't think it would be consider as rebelious on their land
    1:12:40 If I remember in the book Finnick came back to the jungle for the arrows from the dead monkeys and Katniss got them cleaned which wasn't shown in the movie as much as other things like gifts from sponsors beside that spile thing Haymitch send them (took them more time in the book to figure out the purpouse of that)

  • @bassorellichiara3983
    @bassorellichiara3983 Рік тому +3

    You probably already know by the time I comment this but still, if you don´t know, Peeta´s family was abusive towards him, I don´t remember if he had siblings but in the first movie you can see his mother hit him because he burned the bread, and I´m not sure about his father, but yeah I don´t think they were exactly a lovely family that´s why he says nobody needs him.

    • @chanbang378
      @chanbang378 Рік тому +6

      Yeah! The movies aren’t that clear but his family life isn’t great. They didn’t show how bad it was but when Peeta’s mother hit him in the books with the bread they were 11 and his mother didn’t just hit him like how the movies showed, she hit him with a metal kitchen tool and his eye was swelling up. The next day in school Katniss saw he was black and blue.
      Peeta does have siblings, he has two older brothers so he’s the youngest and Katniss points out how none of his brother’s volunteered for him like how she volunteered for her youngest sister. They just sat there and we know at least one is old enough to volunteer.
      We know the most about his dad book wise, he’s known to be kind and in the first book after Katniss and Peeta are chosen and they get to say goodbye to their families, Peeta’s dad actually goes to see Katniss after Katniss says goodbye to her mother, prim and then gale. Peeta’s dad is known to be a man of few words so he just sits there and then gives Katniss cookies and promises to make sure that her little sister is fed. It is really nice, but thinking about it… he went to visit the girl who was a ‘rival’ who had a chance of killing his son. We also know from what peeta told us that his father had a huge crush on Katniss’ mother but then she ran away with a ‘coal miner’ which is Katniss dad. So Peeta’s mother wasn’t who his dad loves and I think that put a huge strain in their family dynamic.
      It’s even more sad for Peeta after they won the first games, Katniss moves into the big victors village house full of support. She lives with there with her mother and Prim and sees Gale’s family a lot, obviously Katniss is still traumatised but she had people to be there for her. Peeta was completely alone, his family didn’t even come to live with him in his huge victors house. He was 16 and was left alone after being traumatised and nearly dying and he even just lost his leg completely and they left him by himself with no help and Katniss doesn’t know what peeta is doing because he seemed to distance himself completely from everything but he’d make bread to drop off to Haymitch and Katniss’ house. Katniss even notes later after the tour when her and Peeta are proper friends again that Peeta quickly goes to visit the bakery to drop something off and she goes with him and his conversation with his dad is very short and awkward.
      It’s no wonder peeta is so adamant on saving Katniss over himself, yes he has a crush on her and all, however it is true that he knows that her death would matter more to people than him. Her death would be awful on her family and they would struggle to look after themselves, they need her. Whereas with peeta, I’m sure they will still be sad. However they really don’t need him, his death doesn’t affect anyone really and you can tell by the stuff he says that he knows he’s not important to anyone and is never the first choice for people ever. Even with Haymitch being both of their mentors, he also always puts Katniss first, even though Haymitch tells Katniss that he likes Peeta more and how he’s too good for everyone. That was more why he was so wounded at the end of the first games when he found out everything was an act on Katniss side because it was the first time he felt like someone cared and put him first to live but then he found out it was fake and started to wonder if any of how she seemed to care about him was real.
      Sorry this was long… wow. I wrote a whole essay… oh well.

  • @williambyers7194
    @williambyers7194 Рік тому +6

    One thing about president snow in the books, that I don't think is mentioned in the movies, is that his face looks fake/unnatural because of plastic surgeries he's had to get, especially his lips. The reason being that he's always ingested small amounts of poison in order to build up a resistance to them because he fears that someone (or people already have) will try to assassinate him either for his position or as revenge for the games.
    Its just a detail that, if it was in the books and I'm not miss remembering, was a good piece of character building

    • @turtlesandmoreturtles
      @turtlesandmoreturtles 8 місяців тому

      Nah he takes poison so people aren't sus of him while he poisons someone else, like "i drank from this so it's safe guys!". He would then take an antidote, but they don't completely work so he got sores in his mouth, and probably lips.

  • @scahearn6279
    @scahearn6279 11 місяців тому +3

    The more reactions I see reinforce how dirty these movies did Peeta. In actuality Peeta is silver tongued and incredibly strong, but kind and generous. I would argue there was never an actual love triangle. The way Katniss described and spoke of Peeta and Gale it was very clear Gale was friend zoned. Katniss was obsessed with Peeta’s arms and eyelashes.

  • @lelesoares2362
    @lelesoares2362 Рік тому +4

    I have no idea how she got to the conclusion the victors village was in the capitol 💀😭

  • @VeeAllar738
    @VeeAllar738 Рік тому +6

    I'm assuming someone on patreon would've explained, but in the books (and this is never in the movies) Haymitch pitches Gail as Katniss' cousin to make the love story with Peta seem more believable so that they'd get more sponsors and win the game. So from the first game on, the public believes Gail is Katniss' cousin and blood family to keep the illusion of her love with Peta alive. (They aren't actually related at all though)
    51:27 yeah, and in the books Peta lost his leg (I love the movies but I wish they'd kept that bit of representation)

  • @elyssakerlin7027
    @elyssakerlin7027 Рік тому +5

    Bro said "Go get Mags...." 😭😭💔💔💔

  • @jdbarber13
    @jdbarber13 9 місяців тому +2

    I've watched a lot of reactions and id say your commentary is definitely far above average but i really dislike the blur on the actual movie. I wish i could see it clearer while you were givng sich great comments.

  • @emilyk5168
    @emilyk5168 11 місяців тому +2

    Every District has a Victor's Village. The one we see is in District 12. It's something the Capitol wants the people of the districts to "aspire" to. All the other houses are empty. District 12 has only had four winners in the history of the games. The winner of the 10th games is no longer around. Haymitch has been doing the role of two mentors for 25 years, trying to keep both tributes alive and failing every time. He self medicates with alcohol. The alcohol and the game Katniss and Gale get outside the fence (outside the bounds of District 12) is considered contraband. The Peacemaker that is bagged by the new guy here is deemed too lenient by how he handled the District. One of them is turned into an Avox (has his tongue cut out and made a servant in the Capitol) but that storyline was cut from this movie. The person in the background that you said looked like Jim Carrey is an avox. I believe the weird outfit is an outward symbol of their disgrace.
    For the first Quarter Quell (25th games), they made the Districts vote for the tributes--meaning the people were forced to chose kids to die. For the second quarter quell, double the amount of tributes were sent (this is the year Haymitch won).
    why do i know all of this?

  • @MewDenise
    @MewDenise Рік тому +5

    Victor villages are inclosed in each district. Only Peeta, Katniss and Haymitch have a house each

  • @carlojustinegarcia1032
    @carlojustinegarcia1032 Рік тому +3

    Here's one fact to ruin about Mags death. Mags is probably in the 60s already so her skin is prone to pain more, imagine going towards the mist. Poor lady 😭

  • @dxnes5067
    @dxnes5067 Рік тому +6

    17:16 her reaction after dude on top left said they wont throw her back in the games lolol

  • @alexisvandom8037
    @alexisvandom8037 Рік тому +2

    The Mockingjay movies were fantastic and then some. They were honestly better than the book, which was a little too bogged down by the propos.

  • @高山-j5f
    @高山-j5f Рік тому +3

    Katnis is a very reserved person with morales. The other victors who were willing to ally themselves with her were trying to make her uncomfortable and teasing her so they can see what shes like under pressure.. jt was all fun and games

  • @nathanielmartinez2551
    @nathanielmartinez2551 Рік тому +4

    Well, you see Katniss is not hunting food for herself now. she's hunting for Gale and his family.

  • @MewDenise
    @MewDenise Рік тому +5

    The movies become very good for people who read the books since they know the internal thoughts of Katniss

  • @ShAdoWj1995
    @ShAdoWj1995 Рік тому +2

    If I remember the map correctly District 12 is like Newyork/ Pennsylvania area, and the capital is LA I think.

  • @randygovereau7576
    @randygovereau7576 9 місяців тому +2

    If you think about it Effie Tricket was theeeeee most famous caretaker of a tribute at the time. She was LIVING.

  • @leoesca
    @leoesca Рік тому +3

    Fact: Peeta kill Brutus ( the muscle guy)before katniss shoot the arrow through the forcefield.

  • @hiymecorp.258
    @hiymecorp.258 Рік тому +4

    Effie crying her eyes out:😭
    Y’all: slay queen💅

  • @nikecoro2606
    @nikecoro2606 Рік тому +3

    The woman in the back with all the tape around her face is called an Avox, in the books it's explained that they were punished by the capitol by having their tongue cut out. So yeah, that's why they look like that

  • @mila6589
    @mila6589 Рік тому +3

    Those servers in the background wearing weird stuff, in the book they are described as avox... people who were traitors to the government and are punished with having their tongues cut off and made as slaves/servers

  • @erinfreeman4149
    @erinfreeman4149 Рік тому +6

    The reason in the books Katniss was able to 'see' the force field was because she could hear it. In the first book/movie when the supplies got blown up she damaged one of her ears and after the games the capital fixed her hearing but the fixed it a bit too much. So she has really good hearing sort of in one ear. Also FYI Peeta loses his leg in the first book because his leg was so damaged so the capitol cut it off.

    • @turtlesandmoreturtles
      @turtlesandmoreturtles 8 місяців тому +3

      No, katniss lied about the hearing. She didn't want to reveal the weak spot to the capitol as that would allow them to make the shields better, so she lies and says they make a faint sound.

  • @yutarokida
    @yutarokida Рік тому +3

    Sean being the only one remembering Che Guevara is why he’s the best 😭

  • @lucasoliver2571
    @lucasoliver2571 Рік тому +5

    Can't wait for the last two movies and the prequel

  • @zombiesatethevideostar1695
    @zombiesatethevideostar1695 Рік тому +3

    Personally, I think both of the next two are both better on rewatch and more timely than ever. I also disagree that it should have been one movie, as then you will end up cutting some of the most important moments from each film just to get it into that 2 1/2 hour range. I still think this holds up as the strongest film, but the next two really go deep into what it takes to fight a war and it's costs.

  • @DavidMichaelson-j7n
    @DavidMichaelson-j7n Рік тому +1

    I agree this is the best. I really predicted nothing but it all makes sense by the end.
    Color? Fine...the deepest black like the depths of the eye of Cthulhu that makes black holes jealous.
    But Snow is such an idiot. Play up the lovers, let them self-destruct as teenagers. He KNOWS she is going mess up the façade and that would mean she is no longer the rebel who won but the cruel brat teen who abandoned Peeta. BY making her into a martyr figure it screwed up. He doesn't seem to remember how messed up and unlovable teenagers can be. Just make sure you have the next popular winner lined up and she would have been forgotten in a couple of years. Insisting on the myth he continued her stardom until...
    I never got into Drag Race. I respect it, and my ex-wife and my kids love it. But now Priscilla, Queen of the Desert is the Drag movie for me. I assume you have seen it. If NOT, watch it. It is amazing....and you will never, NEVER, look at Elrond the same again.
    ua-cam.com/video/CKCe19mnp9c/v-deo.html

  • @dorkynanni6587
    @dorkynanni6587 Рік тому +2

    39:59 This is something that is never mentioned in the movies but is named in the books several times. That person is an Avox, which is a person that has been arrested by the capitol for rebelling against them or something similar. They are punished by becoming slaves and having their tongues cut out. Just another reason to understand how monstrous the capitol truly is.

  • @jalen.0609
    @jalen.0609 9 місяців тому +1

    as haymitch‘s games were the 50th anniversary, instead of 24 there was twice the amount of tributes. He survived by using the forcefield that threw an ax back at the only other person and the capitol saw that as an attack (him using a flaw in the system) so they killed his whole family

  • @brandibastian4193
    @brandibastian4193 Рік тому +1

    that shit with gale was different in the books he was going to deliver a turkey to the head peacekeeper who was replaced the new guy is like youve been poaching & beat him til he was knocked out intending to publically end him several people tried to stop him only to be knocked out as well he didn't PUNCH her she jumped between him & gale taking the whip to the face

  •  9 днів тому

    Glad to see you guys put some respect on Haymitch's name! He had the most brutal story of the entire history of the hunger games... He was in the 50th Hunger Games, and had to defeat 47 other kids to win his games, instead of Katniss and Peeta having to kill a mere 22 (since both of them lived). So Haymitch had to watch 25 other groups of kids just get slaughtered in the games. Year after year, just another set of kids you send off to get murdered... It's really no wonder Haymitch gets shitfaced drunk all the time! I'm surprised he can even function as a human...

  • @brandibastian4193
    @brandibastian4193 Рік тому +1

    haymitch survived when it was down to him and a girl she had an eye hanging out & he had a handful of his own intestines she threw an axe at him which he dodged and bounced back from the bottom of a barrier into her head and cause of exploiting that flaw they murdered his whole family & girlfriend for good measure

  • @mandy.midnight7745
    @mandy.midnight7745 Місяць тому

    For your questions at the beginning of the movie, all the victors get insane amounts of money and a house in Victor's Village to live in, which each district has a Victor's Village. However, they are not allowed to share their wealth with anyone. So Katniss is helping Gale feed his family in a secretive way by helping Gale hunt in the forest.
    Haymitch won the 50th hunger games, and was the only victor officially alive from district 12. The prequel is about the 10th hunger games and is pivotal in how Snow became who he is in these movies.
    The girl in white with the intricate mask over her face when they get to the tribute center and are talking about who was picked to be in the games, that girl is an Avox. An Avox is when a Capitol citizen rebels against the government or District citizens try to run away and are caught, they are then punished by having their tongue cut out and become basically slaves who do all the worst manual jobs in the Capitol, like being maids and sanitation.

  • @CatalinaLinal7710
    @CatalinaLinal7710 2 місяці тому

    I will never not love how perfectly Peeta complements Katniss in effectiveness, despite the movies having significantly reduced his presence. She's the Mockingjay and for a *very* good reason. But watching Peeta play the capitol audience like a fiddle in his interviews, each opportunity he gets to make waves, really makes you put into perspective what he _could_ do if he weren't such a kind soul. Which, mind you, is exactly the point of his character and why he's Katniss' endgame. I love that.

  • @luvvreni
    @luvvreni Рік тому +2

    1:55 personally i enjoyed the 4th movie. i actually watched it in theaters with my friends and at the time, i didnt even know what the hunger games was about. it was the first movie i watched in the series. the second movie is my favorite tho

  • @jedililou2178
    @jedililou2178 11 місяців тому +1

    "They're not going to throw her back in the Hunger Games, I don't think" -ruff. Not me cackling 🤣

  • @jalen.0609
    @jalen.0609 9 місяців тому +1

    in the books when katniss meets the new head gamemaker they even say that his watch had a reflection of the mockingjay

  • @DannyTaylor-pt2xe
    @DannyTaylor-pt2xe 17 днів тому

    in the 50th hunger games, the second quarter quell, they put twice the amount of tributes in the arena so haymitch had twice the amount of people to fight against.
    in the first quarter quell the tributes were voted by the district citizens instead of being pulled out of a fishbowl