Game Theory: You Are The Villain of Poppy Playtime
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Theorists, welcome back to part two of my theory about Poppy Playtime Chapter 2! Today we are going to unravel the tangled web of Mommy Long Legs, the truth about the toys' origins, and who exactly we are playing as in the game. Can I do it? Watch to find out!
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Writers: Matthew Patrick and Tom Robinson
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Is no one talking about how one of Huggy Wuggy’s biggest attributes was that he’s obedient? Wouldn’t that imply that someone, or something, is telling him to harm the player? They could be controlling him to do things because he’s engineered to listen and obey
I think what they're referencing is that his job is security, and he's following it through even after the factory was abandoned
1006 isn't huggy wuggy
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That tracks but my theory is that because they have no one to follow orders by, likely being their method of suppressing "the darkness" inside them, they eventually became violent. However. I wouldnt put it past the devs for that to be a story line
Honestly even the most obedient dog will attack something if he's hungry. These creatures have been locked inside for 10 years
Silly Matpat. We’re not the antagonist. We’re his son attempting to undo all his wrongdoings.
1006 is springtrap confirmed.
@@trevorstokes4179 yes
@@trevorstokes4179 *Hell* yeah.
Hm. It's just ringing a bell, ya know?
In the wake scene after the mommy long legs commercial we have those flash backs we know its us because the chase scene BUT WHY ADD THE PARK now you may say its the same park but its not, if you closely look the playground is completely different. So here what I think we indeed do work for the factory but why? maybe we didn't choose we were forced. Using Matts theory that playtime is bringing in kids to experiment on them I believe that we are one of the kids but somehow we A- made a deal with our captor B- they saw our test results and saw more potential in us than a toy, this could explain why we know the factory so well, remember the chase scene with huggy in the vents we knew the vents in and out and it would also explain why we would come back if we know whats been going on (from a hired employee pov) we know the mosters inside and we know they want us but what if we went back to and I hate to pull the fnaf card but to put them to rest, for all we know everyone is still trapped in a toy except us why us why are we here? to finish what was started PLEASE RESPOND WITH YOUR OPINION
This game literally took the "I just hit an orphan, what are they gonna do? Tell their parents?", and dialed it up to 11.
nah, straight to infinity and beyond.
@@generallyunimportant u rite, u rite.
TRUE BRO
"I'm the second worst thing to happen to orphans."
"What's the worst thing?"
"...They weren't always orphans."
Only Uno reversed
Has anyone pointed out the flower imagery of this game? I've never played, but Poppy flowers are a theme, and many of the enemies in the game relate to nature (the caterpillar-esque creature, Mommy Longlegs, etc) and also Makayla's last name is Hyssop, which is another type of flower. Kinda sounds like cultivation and kinder*garden*... cultivation.
That’s interesting...poppy flowers are associated with death and dreams
There are a lot of names associated with nature actually. Stella (star) Greybur (burrs of various sorts are a common weed). Makayla Hyssop as you mentioned. Lots of animal or insect mascots and even a dinosaur! Jamie B Honey would fit right in.
I actually looked it up for a story a while ago but hyssop can mean sacrafice
@@lilaclynx5332 you. I like you. I like anyone who uses flower imagery in their works like I do!!!
@@malignantprose4828 Haha thanks, I love hiding hidden meanings in my characters names
The "Jamie B. Honey" name would actually justify Cat Bee showing up so much, and us needing to create one in the first chapter.
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@@-whyquestion You don't understand the meaning of Ratio do you?
That’s what I thought
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@@-whyquestion I'm gonna... Assume you're a bot
The theory of the player's name being Jamie B Honey makes a lot of sense, because there's literally a bee toy in production at Playtime Co. and the cutout for it says, "You need to get out of here."
Isn’t the first toy the character makes Cat Bee as well?
In another video someone counted the sign that fell and said there were 5 letters above and 6 below. And it seems to match up!
@@jammin2369 yep, right before Huggy comes after you
nope so slow lol
Also Jamie is a gender neutral name, meaning the player character gender's up to the player.
The last name being the Production team leader, who also tortured them, does make sense in why the letters were on the floor. They wanted his name destroyed most because he tortured them more than the others did.
6:58
As Mat says in the newest Poppy episode, the big Mommy was made before the little toy versions, so she was probably called Mommy Long Legs because the kids would call her Mommy “because she was the closest thing they ever had to one”
My own theory is that the prototype is actually made using an adult. That's why it would be far more intelligent than the other toys that were brought to life. If the others were made with children, they would actually be less aggressive and more obedient and more willing to cooperate with the staff there.
This makes sense.
I think the children are used for the smaller toys. While the adults then used for the bigger and more intelligent toys.
what if they put animal souls in certain mascots
But Stella was an adult too?
The prototype is actually pressumed to be made using Eliot Ludwig remains as he did die before the prototype was made making him the most suitable candidate as well as he is the person who basically started the whole project. And also you can explain his hostility by taking into the fact that Eliot either didn't want to be turned into a toy or disagreed with the method in where they used orphans as test subjects. Which also explains why huggy is hostile to us as huggy is obedient to his master which is Eliot Ludwig meaning that he still has control over him as the protype.
MatPat: “The player is the villain.”
Also MatPat: Saw Jacksepticeye but still kept him as a character in the game.
Also MatPat: Jacksepticeye is important for the lore
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glad to see you finally talk about the orphans being turned to monsters theory. i though of it right at the start of the game honestly
After looking back at all the theories so far. I think the prototype is NOT Elliot Ludwig.
I think it’s Pierre, the head of innovation.
“INNOVATION IS KEY” is very much something he would say bc he was so obsessed with his experiments, and he feels like he would be chaotically mad enough to continue after being shifted.
strongly agree with this
It's not Leith considering that Catnap and Leith were talking to one another in one of Chapter 3's VHS tapes.
Every single Horror Game theory has to have a “YOU ARE THE VILLIAN” theory by MatPat
its a really cool concept so he just wants to be right on at least one of the games XD
It's a requirement.
(Btw, don't respond to bots, it does nothing but clog the replies. Just report them and move on.)
@@bluelfsuma the bots are actually funny to me XD
@@karlosgrullon4388 Personally, I find spam annoying. Especially the bots that say something outright offensive.
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Finally, it’s here.
One thing I noticed about Poppy’s design was that her main theme was red hair and blue bows. For those who don’t know, blue bows and ribbons are symbolic to those who were victims of child abuse. If Poppy really was Elliot’s adopted daughter, then his violence towards his daughter could give us a hint as to why he was perfectly okay with using children as test subjects.
And on another note, that could be how his daughter died. Maybe his abuse lead to her death and he felt guilty about it.
This explains why Huggy and Kissy also have blue ribbons damn u are smart
@@shacochad7052 Thank you :>
Considering that freakin' *Wendy's* burger joint has a mascot with red hair and blue bows, I doubt this is a factor in the game.
I agree :>
It’s funny how he said “maybe it’s Elliot talking” when he’s talking about red messages, then a couple theories later he’s like:
*”they turned Elliot into the prototype”*
I have my own little theory on us being head of production, Jamie B. Honey. You see, in most production quarters I'd imagine that there job is to, as he said, make adjustments to toys to present them to the public. However, I think we did come here not to exactly to repent OUR sins but our co workers. Because when you think about it, no one knew about the orphans going missing nor could the toys leave. So why go back to the factory and get rid of evidence if no one is suspicious to begin with? Well, I believe that we, Jamie B Honey, are wanting to make-up for what happened. My theory here is, we knew about the experiments HOWEVER! We didn't know it was on orphans. Now I know this has a few pot holes, like 'if we didn't know, then why would Mommy try and kill us?' Or 'why would we get our own slide if we didn't know?' Well, everyone I have a small theory on that as well. I think we are going back to the factory not just to find any employees, but perhaps Elliot Ludwig. Why the owner of Playtime CO? Because I think we might be a close friend of Elliot Ludwig's which would explain why we have a big role but didn't know about the orphans because he wanted to keep us safe after incidents from Prototype 1006 started happening. It also explains why the toys try to kill us because they know we are close friend of Elliot Ludwig who, maybe, the person who is behind of all this. But again that's just a theory. A game theory! (Thank to those who read the theory, I normally don't share these....)
Our character would have to be really old if we were personal acquaintances with Ludwig if he created the factor in the 1930s
@@Keiran1764 the character doesn't have to be friends since 1930s. I think it's more like they bonded after playtime co was already created, and became one of the first few employees to show interest in the factory.
Thank you for the THeOry
For anybody that hasn't figured this out yet. The noises you hear after you leave the first two games are Mommy in a rage killing bunzo and the mini-wuggies, it took me a couple plays but you can actually see bunzo and the wuggies in her webs back in the game station, so she's actually a lot more angry than she makes out when we win the games
nooooooo not bunzo!!!
This comment needs more likes.
the files for when the sounds play are called mommykillsbunzo and mommykillshuggies
Oh wow
woah
A quick note! Marcus said "dothering," not "gathering." What he was saying was that the thing was kind of lazily moving around the hall.
I'm autistic, and bad at processing words and even I caught that. Tbf I am British so maybe I'm just used to the over the top Irish accent
Thought it was "doddering", close enough lol
@@sheepusbeepus1521 It was doddering.
I heard tottering.
@@SamanthaLaurier ah, nice.
I have a slight feeling we might be Eliot Ludwig. Why? When mommy said “If anyone should die alone it’s you.” And as we know Eliot Ludwig lost someone close and these toys seem to be after us because of what we have done.
But hey it’s just a theory a game theory! Thanks for reading.
@@valtersh. that doesn’t make sense because for us to be Elliot we would be about 70-80 years old, and I don’t know a lot of 80 year olds that are running and swinging across massive raveanes
Yes but we started a company that ran down hill and know we’ve returned with everyone against us and not Olny that but we could be one of the past workers / co-owners since one of the tunnels sign letters are knocked down
@@valtersh. actually, scratch that, we’d be about 100-120 years old, because playtime co was founded in 1930
That is very smart but that also means that we aren’t a worker , Eliot or anyone who was a part of the factory but somehow everyone so far has recognised us. That’s very wired because we would not be alive by now so that could mean we are some random person that just went into this factory but the question then remains how , how do the monsters or at least mommy long legs know us and why are they after specifically us.
I theorized that too. That perhaps the real victims are the toys trying to kill us. Like the other games, they experiment on these orphan children, knowing they didn’t have families to go back to. Those who value other things than the lives of children like Laith Pierre relentless turning them into creatures they play with. They say that when something happens to a child, their soul becomes corrupted by rage and sadness and that’s what happened to these kids - turned monsters. Their furious, sad, but above all ..have absolute hatred for those who did this to them. That the character were playing as- was involved in such horrifying experiments. Maybe a peculiar child got turned into Huggy Wuggy, which is why he attacked us. It would be awesome if it was confirmed. Like Huggy wouldn’t attack anyone else but you because you were involved and their hatred is to see you dead.
This theory makes so much sense considering the main character we play as is able to use the GrabPack just like any other regular worker of the Production Area would.
but we are a regular worker of the production area
or are we not??
if I remember before entering one of the game room isn't there a side room where kids can pick up a grab pack?
There is a deception coming strong on the earth, and it's already here. Trust in Jesus, so that you won't be swallowed up or decimated.
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@@golden3065 and in the games the kids have to use one
You know I was rewatching the gameplay, and when our character dies, it tells us to “Get up”, it says “You can take it”, “Don’t die just yet”, and a lot of others things that signal to me that we are recounting what we’ve said to others, the children. It sounds like we’re talking to the children while torturing them, antagonizing them. This is just my small theory/thought while watching the gameplay.
Oooh interesting. I thought it was just the souls in the toys trying to torture us because we cannot be dead yet until their tragic stories are discovered
@@discofactory Pehaps you should then be avoiding such gory games
It's also seem like the red screens might be parrotibg things we or someone else in power have said to us, with the whole "they are just hungry" thing, unless those are somehow meant to be from the children's point of view
Very dark, very possible!
@@JDM-is-my-name True. Don't worry, they won't hurt you. They're just hungry . .
I watched all parts of game theory about this game, and it is strange that Matthew never talks about the multiple messages inside the vents during the chase sequenc in chapter 1.
I feel like the theory on us being the head honcho himself, is pretty far fetched. Because, at the end of chapter 2, poppy doesn't recognize us. She calls us special and that we can save them. It seems more realistic if we were someone who worked there and is named Jamie B Honey than anything
This does make me curious how Kissy Missy seems less hostile than the other toys. Maybe her conditioning didn't follow through to obedience? I hope we get more clearance about her in the next chapter.
Or maybe we didn’t harm Kissy like the others, and if we are trying to atone for our sins Kissy might be the reason we regret our actions.
Or, another theory, we knew who the child was that we put in Kissy and we feel guilty and now want to help them.
Obviously these are all guesses and they’re probs wrong but I wanted to share my thoughts
On an different channel, I heard someone theorized that Kissy Missy is still watching an bunch of orphans that didn't get turn into toys, so her murderous behavior is still being suppressed
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or her conditioning worked...
I think it can be because :
1. She's friendly toward both children and adult. She doesn't need suppression like all the others.
2. She doesn't turn into feral yet just like when huggy gave us key instead of killing us at the first place.
3. Kissy is as smart as Poppy and mommy, not just a killing machine. She wants us to help her to fix everything up.
I've seen a lot of theories surrounding the player himself, and im glad MatPat also made a theory about it.
I feel bad by how much bots you got
@@xxpinkwitchxx6920 Those aren't both ther trolls
Made, stole, same thing, right?
Game Therory is like a TV show I would watch on a Sunday afternoon.
Cool
I haven’t even played this game, I just like hearing MatPats theories and reading the subscribers theories.
I was wondering how the kids could disappear at the factory without repercussions but them being orphans checks out, I suppose
I'm surprised Mat didn't acknowledge that the two notes we find about the child assessment end abruptly, as if the proctors were interrupted by something.
Where do you find these??
@@TheeMelee at around 5:04
Same tbh
Guys look!
My favorite is poppy she is so cute 🥰
The biggest question that’s bothering me in this game is “why we’re not dying?”
Is there someone always saving us? Or are we immortal somehow
Based on the texts seen when the player dies I think someone keeps reviving the player,
Makes me wonder if we are an experiment in a sense. The scientist at the end of chapter 1's final tape says "one breakthrough and I'll be back" Or something close to it. In a sense, we figured out HOW to come back from death it seems.
Are you guys seriously trying to connect RESPAWNING to the lore?! Like what, are we supposed to only have one chance to beat it and if we die, we can't play it again?! Of course respawning doesn't have a connection to lore, it's essential to make players not quit after 1 failed attempt! Sorry that this was a rant, it just infuriated me that anyone could possibly think respawning could be connected to the lore
@@thehotwheelsreviews Dark Souls had respawning connected to the lore. 12 minutes had it connected to the lore. Various other games have respawning connected to the lore. It's not outside the realms of possibility, and besides, we have sentient walking toys that want to eat your face. How is this surprising in any sense? It's fair to think it's not likely, but it is a possibility you shouldn't disregard, no matter how much you dislike the idea.
@@starhammer5247 oh, ok i just hadn't heard of any games before where respawning affected the lore
imagine a team of the greatest detectives like the batfamily and sherlock holmes where given this case.
12:23 sounds like Mat really has it out for Scott Cawthon.
"Its jacksepticeye of course he's gonna be important for the lore"
-MatPat 2022
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@@isabellacleary2692 they always come back
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Fun theory: “Poppy” Playtime may not refer to poppy herself, but maybe to the poppy flowers that were used to “revive” or “create” the toys and failed rat experiments. Just a quick thing I thought of, made sens to me
That actually makes way more sense then it being for the character poppy
I know right!? Considering we don’t see much of her and I mean, that’s been the one reoccurring main ingredient of the whole operation.
Bro spells "sense" like a typo of an insult to god
In the wake scene after the mommy long legs commercial we have those flash backs we know its us because the chase scene BUT WHY ADD THE PARK now you may say its the same park but its not, if you closely look the playground is completely different. So here what I think we indeed do work for the factory but why? maybe we didn't choose we were forced. Using Matts theory that playtime is bringing in kids to experiment on them I believe that we are one of the kids but somehow we A- made a deal with our captor B- they saw our test results and saw more potential in us than a toy, this could explain why we know the factory so well, remember the chase scene with huggy in the vents we knew the vents in and out and it would also explain why we would come back if we know whats been going on (from a hired employee pov) we know the mosters inside and we know they want us but what if we went back to and I hate to pull the fnaf card but to put them to rest, for all we know everyone is still trapped in a toy except us why us why are we here? to finish what was started PLEASE RESPOND WITH YOUR OPINION
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Can we just say how amazing GT's 2d rendition of sinister smile poppy playtime is just.... perfect
The plot line is slowly becoming a violent mix of Fnaf and Bendy...
I LIKE IT! Minus the whole twisted orphan murder thing...
Us being head of production makes even more sense when you realize that we never make noise in the story (yet). Obviously this could be from a protag perspective of "wanting to keep the game immersive" or something. But when you think about it, as a main person in the company, you would know easier ways to deal with these monsters, I think our character knew they'd encounter monsters, so they try to stay quite as to not draw any attention to themselves.
@@funnybunny5958 I know you're a bot, just give me the virus link.
@@Coolguy_Da_Boi Nah they're just after the views
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Bro... THAT'S COMPLETELY UNRELATED.
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ I missed the part where that's my problem
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It makes a lot of sense “Jamie” would be in Production. Consider the previous character, where we had to go to the “make a friend” department. And this chapter, where we had to build our own green hands
Yos
I actually came up with the name Jamie Honey before he said it, Definitely excited to see where this game goes
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What if Jamie is the one talking about The Prototype? His and Ludwig's voices are the only ones we haven't identified yet after all.
You can also kind of add to this idea that you're the production head because of the scene where you build CatBee. If you're the head of production, you would know how to build the characters.
I feel like the prototype is Elliot Ludwig himself, and the person, voiced by Robin (in the tape with jack) is who took over and began these experiments, it just sounds way too calm for you know everything that’s happened
THAT’S WHAT I’M SAYING
This is kinda like the theory about Ink Demon being Joey Drew lol
Robin is honestly a great guy. You can check out more of his work in Emkay, one of my personal favourite channels!
@Jesus Christ now now im not christian but you make them mad because you know that
@Jesus Christ ! Get out!
can’t wait to laugh at “jamie b honey” being wrong, or laugh even harder at “jamie b honey” being right.
The name has 5 letters with the surname being 6, I don't think the name is correct but there's always a chance
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All the other slides have only the first and last name not the middle initial so im not sure
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Yes
Great theory! Love your content even though I sometimes don’t understand.
But the amoubt of hilarious jokes evens it out😂
Why was I expecting "since I last sung this song so I could ponder, the man behind the slaughter"
Honestly seeing that the player is the true horror instead of the actual game itself is something that definitely should be looked upon in other games, which can make them more unique. This is something I hope gets looked upon on because future games can have an impact on having some potential with this kind of approach.
This idea would be totally unique and new in the next horror games.
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That's very vague, it's not like you are scared of the player in this game. So how would you implement this? Do you mean the player is scared of the actions that the protagonists are taking? I experienced that recently in Needy Streamer Overload.
If you just mean the player being the villain, that used to be every mediocre RPGmaker horror game. Even Fnaf had you play as the villain if you believe Matpat's Ultimate Custom Night theory.
undertale genocide route is literally that.
It villain not horror
I’m surprised the talking cutouts weren’t mentioned. They seem to be partly sentient as well. They say ominous things to the player (except Kissy and Daisy I believe) when you keep pressing their buttons.
Not only that but you can “feed” Candy Cat until they’re full but if you keep going you can basically hurt or kill or upset (I’m not sure tbh) Candy Cat since they ask you to stop. Boogie Bot’s cutout also says “The button hurts me.” And also says “Am I a real boy?”. Gives me suspicion that some of these cutouts might also be partly alive but also programmed to say lines. But that’s just a theory…A GAME THEORY
Thanks for reading!
Doubtfull seems quite a bit overkill
After this video i honestly think that maybe the kids that didn't do well in the games at playcare and aren't fit to be in toys just turn into cutouts cuz that's probably the only thing they can do
Still all that effort and blood n guts put into a cardboard cutout?!!
I think the same! And CatBee even told us that we should leave the factory..
I got Jamie from the letters thing, but it took me a while to get the surname because I didnt think of the possibility that one of the letters would just be an initial.
Hi interesting thing me and my friend noticed watching markplier playing poppy playtime chapter one.I don’t know if this has been mentioned in a n other video but in clip about 4:44-4:48 if you look up at the vent there should be something pinkish moving through it.
Don’t known if that’s helpful love your theories by the way.
Has anyone else thought about the purpose behind CandyCat being overfed?
The audio expressed CandyCat being intially excited about the "Candy"
But after getting full still ends up getting fed and apparently begging doesn't matter enough to stop for whoever is feeding him
So does that mean the "Candy" serves another purpose entirely?
You can also hear in the audio where it expresses CandyCat being very excited and hyper for the candy, which is very similar to children. As we know, little kids have a strange obsession over sugar and energy. We already know about kids being made into toys but I think this is just another clue :) .Bit disturbing though
It was a form of conditioning, candy cat loved candy too much, that they force fed it into the cat, until it couldn't take it anymore, until the cat hated candy, I know it's cruel, but I first hand have seen this form of conditioning being threatened upon children
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Conditioning
@@shruqabdullah5036 Mikaela is
When you said "I'd hate to see my torturer again"
I was expecting to see a picture of Scott truly a missed opportunity
me: reads this comment
Also me: *starts doing the Tim Curry pennywise laugh frantically*
That's historical
@@michaelalkaddoum7730 I think you mean hysterical, lol
Can you make a video how you make a video. From ideas to research to collect/ creating assets…
Whoever voiced the Prototype was amazing.
Mommy long legs reminds me so much of the other mother/Beldam from Coraline: the fact that she toys with children falsely acting as a “mother”, she loves games but hates cheaters, and has that chilling spider like movement
Plus, Beldam's hand looks like the prototype's which dragged mommy long legs away
@@giansibalo6443 When I first saw the hand in my first run through Chapter 2, I connected that as well and almost gave myself a heart attack. That movie scarred me as a chuld.
very veryy clever interpretation. movie also scarred me as a child lol
Scientifically, spiders are actually very affectionate mothers in nature. They are protective, love to cuddle their babies and sometimes will be reluctant at letting their children go similar to a human moms going through empty nest syndrome
So I think Mommy Long Legs acting predatorial against the protagonist makes a lot of sense considering she probably really saw the children in the factory as her own children in a way, which is probably why she took it very personally when the children "left her" and so she's focusing all her sadness and anger against the protagonist due to knowing the protagonist most likely had something to do with it.
Having the Beldam from the Coraline movie portrayed as a spider woman was definitely no coincidence since it shows how possessive mother spiders can be
Yeah, but mommy actually loves the kids and got protective when they took them away, but clever interpritation
For those who are trying to figure out the name, here's a tip that Matt doesn't mention in the video. If you look closely at the sign, you can see that the first name has 5 letters and the last name has 6 letters. I learned this from Super Horror Bro so credits to him. Jamie B Honey does work but there might be some other possibilities. I wish you all luck :)
No jamie b honey doesn't work because there are 2 a's instead of 2 e's
@@actpianocover6329 Oh I didn't notice that :0
its possible that the name is Jamie Haybon (I didn’t create this name I just found it by reading some of the comments so yeah)
@@gengar897 Maybe?
@@gengar897 ngl when matpat collects the words, i thought that was already the name (in korea, the name Jahyeon 자현 is quite common)
One poster in the games says, “Don’t hide behind doors to scare Leith Pierre, and then it says, “Don’t enter Innovation wing without authorization.”
Kinda sounds like Leith Pierre is writing this, since he heads up Innovation.
…And because no one else would stand to say they don’t like to watch someone get scared by opening a door
I might have a theory that tells what chapter 4 and 5 be. U see that there is 5 wings of the factory and the 3 wings game station, innovation and playcare have been shown in the 3 chapters but the 2 wings that are left research and production hasnt been showed yet meaning chapter 4 might be the reaserch wing and then chapter 5 might be production wing.
The biggest question that is torturing me in this game is: “ Why are we not dying?”
Is there a possibility that someone is always saving us? Or are we Immortal somehow?
It’s a game that’s why
I know! It's the mystery that ties everything together!👍
that's not a big question. you always revive in horror games.
Plot armor
@@ezvain it’s the way we come back which is off asf
Whoever is voicing these characters are amazing your doing a great job mat!!
Mmhhmmm
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I believe he hires like voice impersonators on fiverr or something
You haven't even watched it fully
Pretty sure the girl voice is Stephanie.
I knew they got mark to do a bit for the game i had no clue about sean tho thats awsome
Great Video! *This theory is so amazing*
The name Jamie also makes a lot of sense as it's unisex; it could be applied to any player easily.
Also, as much as there are similarities to FNAF, this game has a different feel. Maybe games should have a new genre of "childish horror" or something for games like these lol
Edit: changed androgynous to unisex
Yeah, it may have some similarities, but it feels different and so far is complicated enough to give the player and community a challenge in piecing what's going on. but not FNAF level convoluted
Agreed!
Poppy Playtime seems reminiscent of Bendy and the Ink Machine to me.
@@fruitysourlemons ya you have a point, it has a more bendy and the ink machine feel than a fnaf feel
Just looking at the combination, Jamie would be the only reasonable one
Mini Theory: The Red Death Messages are things that the Player remembers hearing from when they worked at Playtime.
"They're just hungry, The Prototype has saved us, and Isn't he wonderful, INNOVATION IS KEY, and MAY WE FORGET DEATH" are likely things Elliot has told the player to justify the monstrosities he was making, and the experimentation on the orphans.
"HE IS LOOSE, and THIS IS AN EMERGENCY LOCKDOWN" is what the Player remembers hearing when the Prototype went rogue.
What if they're things that he said?
Like, trauma showing.
Rogue* rouge is red
I love hearing Matt Talk about theories of my favorite game series but but I like SuperHorrorBro theory/theories on this game
Hey matpat when choo choo Charles releases can you do some lore cuz the dev said there is gonna be lore and back story of choo choo Charles (maybe)
Fun fact: he's a legend because he never takes another breath, he's just on the same breath for like 17 minutes
Oh. I never realized that until you said that.
Oh. My. God.
let's see who's going to miss the joke🤡
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SNAP MY COMMENT IS HIGHLIGHTED AND I NEVER GOT THAT MANY PIJE TYSM I LOVE YALL
Wouldn’t it be cool if Poppy Playtime had two endings based on this theory: one where the protagonist rights all the wrongs in the factory and escapes to reveal the truth to the world and one where they bring down the factory and cover up everything.
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That would be cool
Like outlast
I agree, I really hope this game has secret endings.
And maybe an ending where you save the employees and kill the head executives including yourself or maybe the opposite
the intro of this video is amazing i just love it so much
Hey Matpat, have you thought about the letter we got saying we're still here and it looked weird, what if it was from orphans still being there? and the staff is just keeping the kids stuck there? Maybe its something to chew on?
"These aren't just any children, they're orphans!" please someone explain why my brain heard that and decided it was the funniest part of th video 💀
Maybe it is because that "These aren't just any children, they're orphans!" could be deciphered as an insult such as "They are not normal, because they are orphans" which is not what matpat meant at all, and the idea of that sentence being read incorrectly with the knowledge of what it is supposed to mean lead to you finding it funny
Or its because it was funny
Probably because some tragedies are so horrific and insane, we can only cope by laughing.
Technoblade viewer.
"You can't kidnap orphans they weren't wanted in the first place" -Dr.Briefs
tfs' DBZA
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That actually fits really well, because Jaime can be a male or female name, as video game characters usually have both available.
@FuntimesWithMema I think they meant Jamie, because that's what MatPat said in the video. So yea, could be any gender
@FuntimesWithMema yeah. Kinda the same name still though
@@donutnarwhal135 yeah. That’s what I meant
wishing you the best morning/night - remember, what we think, we become 🧠💰
i wanted to hear you will be a nice addition to my collection D:
TO BURN THE WHOLE PLACE DOWN Matpat thats sounds suspiciously like oh FNAF!
MatPat: "The player is the villain."
Also MatPat: Saw Jacksepticeye but still kept him as a character in the game.❤️❤️❤️
Made my heart happy ngl
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I wonder if the game is called “Poppy Playtime” not because of Poppy the character. Rather the role the poppy flowers have in this game? Since they play a huge part in the living toys creation along with all the other side characters uses such as the scientists. As poppy flowers can symbol sleep, peace and also death. Which fit the games themes perfectly. Though, I will warn, poppy flowers can mean much other things depending on which culture we’re talking about.
Yeah, maybe or goal here is to actually get the ‘Poppy remant’ or whatever it’s called to reopen and create a new slew of toys.
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To whomever is reading this - wishing you the best morning/night - remember, what we think, we become 🧠💰
when I saw the letters floating around I knew what the first name was and I was bouncing and punching the air in excitement when I got it right, or what the theory states :)
OMG THE WAY YOU SAY ALL THIS GIVES ME SHIVERS
My take on this is: Poppy doesn’t seem to recognize us, she speaks as if we’re new. Lines like; “You freed me…” “you’re perfect, too perfect to lose.” Etc… As well as being delighted we know how to solve the electricity puzzle in the beginning of Chapter 2. If we were the head of production, we would’ve known about her. Maybe she was in a stasis? Opening her case is what springs her to life, or so it seems. Yet in the letter from the very beginning, it tells us to “FIND THE FLOWER” in bold and underlined. Yes, this may just be for the player. The notes too. Her acting like she isn’t familiar with us while the others are is strange… She hates the experiments, even saying that there were so many wrongs that needed to be righted. That alone makes me believe that we may not be the head of something, so… Why is she so unfamiliar? Why is Mommy the only one who knows that we worked here?
My guess? We didn’t pull kids apart and make them into toys. Oh no. We adopted certain kids to send away via Stella’s orders. Mommy says we deserve “to die alone.” She knows us because we would “adopt” kids, she recognizes us because we gave the orphans a hope of having a family. We sent them to die and spend eternity in a toy.
The prototype may be Jamie B Honey, continuing the experiments on themselves.
Now, I’m no theroist, not by a long shot. But this makes more sense to me.
Edit: I absolutely LOVE the questions and other theroies coming from you all! I try to respond and spark more ideas best I can, so by all means. Leave a reply on your thoughts! :)
Why would the heads of the company experiment on themselves when they have loads of children?
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@@lancetheking7524 xd
@@lancetheking7524 unfortunately.
@@cherry9787 they might have done it after, seeing they were getting old and, after they discovered how, they made themselves into toys to try and live forever?
There's one problem with our character being the head of production:
Huggy Wuggy was completely obedient to the staff and wouldn't harm someone as important as the head of production. Plus, our character seems to be confused about most of the stuff inside the factory. I think Mommy Long Legs suspects all employees are guilty, just because they worked there. She's blaming us when we're confused about most of it. We returned to try and save all the missing employees because we want to. I think we're playing as Marcus, the character jackscepticeye played. I think he wanted to find someone he cared about, but they became Kissy Missy, which is why she helps us.
Huggy Wuggy could simply be most obedient to his master.
@Taelin Cusic ooooo~? I just thought someone is controlling huggy wuggy?
I think this is much more likely than Mat's theory personally. (Sorry Mat)
I just look at things, and try to figure out theories that make sense.
However, I do think that the name for the plate makes sense. Jamie B. Honey, or However he spelled it, does fit the theme of Poppy Playtime. I just don't think we're playing as them.
Matpat I love your. Videos ^^ and I have played chapter 1 and 2 but only on roblox bc I cant buy the game sadly but it looks so cool ans I hope I can play it soon
How'd it take them hours? Jamie was the first thing I thought of. Although tbf that may have been because when the letters were swirling around the screen J A M lined up
The name “Jamie B. Honey” would make sense as the first toy that we used to escape in Ch. 1 was CatBee.
@@qu1nnycak3 He's got backup.
MatPat made a mistake. The letters JAHYEONBAIM has one E. Jamie B. Honey has two e's.
I know that the b would probably be in the middle and last name wouldn't be abbreviated but i think honey b is better because its like honeybee
@@mookieruru7540 i think his name is Joey. It has to be
@@mookieruru7540 He forgor lol
Theory: It's possible the messages after death are memories of different higher-ups talking to us, the player. Considering the theory that we are the head of production, the white messages all sound encouraging, but if spoken correctly, they could come from Elliot Ludwig, the leader of the factory. His bossy tone and backstory seemingly line up with all previous messages that end in a fade to white. Following that line of thought, the messages fading to red could be Eddie or the Head of Research. All messages that end in red line up with the research side of things so it would make sense.
yeah
I can agree with this hypothesis, the messages do sound like they are referring to the player in a friendly/cordial manner. As if he were a co-worker.
but, wouldn't he be dead?? he started the company sometime in the mid 1900s (i think) since poppy was made in the 1950s, and tons of experments came before her and huggy wuggy, since the place looks old and very run down, wouldn't he be very old if not dead by now??
realizing now that matpat had a theory about Ludwig being the intelligent prototype 1006, if that is true, then I could see the theory
@@KDlink3.0 I think the OP means that even if Ludwig is dead, it's a memory of when he was alive, not Ludwig talking to you right now
Matpat should have a look at the prototype version of this poppy playtime tgere are some stuff he could theorize about like the drawings in Elliot's office walls and ect... there are deleted objects that may be important to the lore
I love your vids I needed this evedince
Theory: Stella Greybur is Kissy Missy.
Stella seemed very child-like and friendly to all, both in the VHS tape from Chaper 1 and from the recordings in the game station. Kissy Missy is very friendly and has no desire to attack us, the player. Kissy Missy also seems very child-like and curious. If this theory is true, maybe the reason Kissy Missy/Stella DIDN'T attack us is because she recognized us as her old boss(and maybe as an old friend?)
Edit: Stella would probably be the first to speak out when she found out how the kids were being treated, maybe the company manipulated her in some way, and when she found out too much they had to to get rid of her but didn't want any potential to go to waste so they turned her into a toy, and Stella/Kissy's kind nature carried over into her toy form?
Also, if you press Kissy Missy's cutout after listening to Stella's speaking in Game Station, you noticed both of them sound alike.
But wasn't she alive when kissy missy was made.
@@Tarkov_KJ16 she might be the only kissy missy that's actually stable. Meaning there were failures before they finally used her so it's possible.
Unless Kissy Missy is your child.
That also may be why Kissy was so willing to help the player. She KNEW and got along with the player.
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Jacksepticeye’s cameo in this, is the most amazing part about this game, the legend is going places for sure.
Weird that he is in both chapter 2 of Poppy playtime and bendy and the ink machine(*chapter 3)
and that both games are pretty similar
This is pretty cool
Bruh
He's also Janitor Jack in the puppet combo game called Murderhouse yo!
@@catjayp yeah not like he's a famous multimillionaire or anything.
0:39 A fine addition to my collection.
general grivous joke, to the uninitiated.
It's also worth noting that throughout the game all we are seen doing is producing things. Making a Catbee toy, making a new hand for our grabpack, etc.
Every intro of Game Theory I get a shot of euphoria as soon as Mat says “HEEEEELLO INTERNET”
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a fine addition to the collection
Theory: at the start of chapter 1 the note says: we’re still HERE ( you’ll find out why i caped that in a min) mine is that in a future chapter a human that happend to survive may help us. Thats why in the files it said multi- player
Poppies represent sleep, peace and death. (In New Zealand, we place poppies over the graves of fallen soldiers, and wear poppy pins to honour them as well :D)
So it makes sense why the creators chose to have the poppy flower as the main symbol of the game.
In Flanders Fields.
I thought the main reason for poppies being used to honour soldiers was because they were the flowers that grew along the Western Front during WWI. They were a strikingly beautiful sight and a symbol of new life and growth in such a world of death and destruction.
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I did not know that. That's so cool!🤩
@@kevindowling157 I believe it’s because they were mentioned in the famous poem Flander’s Field where a lot of the fighting in France occurred. The large amount of them and red colour symbolised the blood that had been spilled by all the soldiers that died there.
Can we also talk about the elephant in the room here? The toy monsters are not the size of singular children, yet do not appear to be an amalgamation of consciousnesses either. Mommy long legs had a consistent thought process in her delivered lines, as did poppy herself. Did the company cram multiple kids in each and somehow manufacture a brand new mind for each toy?
It can't be ruled out. It seems to be a consistent motif for every monster we have encountered we they have a friendly form and monster form. In their friendly form it seems they are still capable of thought like a normal person, some can even speak, but all demonstrate a form of cognitive understanding. In the monster form they lose that, and only can think like heartless creatures only concerned with feeding.
True but maybe the children are used for the smaller toys the ones they sell to the masses(as blood is seen leaking out and splatterd al around and in them), as those are small but fairly large as far as toys go, so it's possible that some adult specimens we're acquired for the larger 'Toys' such as mommy long legs.
I wonder perhaps if it’s not the larger toys that are made of orphans but perhaps the smaller sold toys (or maybe some kind of medium size ones?) that have kids in them? Perhaps the larger toys like huggy are still made from adults of some kind (employees or otherwise) and those larger toys also are there to control the ones that are smaller/made of children? Basically you use the “expendable” orphans on getting the basics of toy-consciousness combination correct and then you use adults to make a final version that is better suited to be in charge of a larger body and control the other toy creations that have younger undeveloped minds in them.
@@steamtaco3672 Ah you’re thinking the same thing I was. Didn’t read your comment before I replied to the og comment
Most likely?
What if they used children organs for other toys maybe two brains for Huggy...this sounds disturbing
hey @matpat do a theory on why the thomas and friends characters have faces. this has been a question i've had for years.
I always forget Sean was in this lol
But when he shows up it makes me way less scared ❤
Fun fact, hyssop is a herb. Perhaps it's a hint that anything related to plants in name has a recurring theme?
ikr thats why i have a theory that chapter 4 is gonna be a garden of some kind
wishing you the best morning/night - remember, what we think, we become 🧠💰
Yes
Is it possible that Stella could’ve turned into Kissy Missy, the one that helped us during chapter 2? It makes sense to me because if Kissy Missy was angry about being turned into a toy, she probably would’ve acted hostile toward the protagonist. And since Stella said that she’d be happy to bring joy to kids and everything, it would make sense that she would be happy being stuck inside of a toy. So the fact that Kissy Missy wasn’t hostile toward the protagonist and that Stella inferred that she wouldn’t mind being turned into a toy, the theory that Stella’s soul is in Kissy Missy makes sense. Also, when we hear Stella’s voice in the play room, there’s a cutout of Kissy Missy, but that might be something random.
Stella feels more like a mommy long legs type
In the wake scene after the mommy long legs commercial we have those flash backs we know its us because the chase scene BUT WHY ADD THE PARK now you may say its the same park but its not, if you closely look the playground is completely different. So here what I think we indeed do work for the factory but why? maybe we didn't choose we were forced. Using Matts theory that playtime is bringing in kids to experiment on them I believe that we are one of the kids but somehow we A- made a deal with our captor B- they saw our test results and saw more potential in us than a toy, this could explain why we know the factory so well, remember the chase scene with huggy in the vents we knew the vents in and out and it would also explain why we would come back if we know whats been going on (from a hired employee pov) we know the mosters inside and we know they want us but what if we went back to and I hate to pull the fnaf card but to put them to rest, for all we know everyone is still trapped in a toy except us why us why are we here? to finish what was started PLEASE RESPOND WITH YOUR OPINION
@@ar3s622 better yet. We were the head of adoption for the kids. Yeah there Is a sign that says head of production yadda yadda. But a part of production is getting the kids. Is it not?
but Stella was alive when Mommy Long Legs was created and Mommy Long Legs was created after Kissy Missy
@@raudinforouzandeh maybe she was indeed kissy missy but only those who have a high rank and authorized know that kissy missy is stella (dunno seems a bit odd but ima share it anyways)and if kissy and huggy were related in a way then so stella and the person who got turned into huggy and in a detail shown in another video she seemed like she was crying which is theorized to be because of huggy’s “death”
i saw the letters and the first thought i had as you were moving them was it started with 'I Am'
I 100% agree with this tbh, but I'm also confused with the toy hands we have. What if, while being in Production, we accidently turned ourselves into toys too? Or something like that.
a random thought, "Jamie B Honey" sounds more like a name for a toy thats supposed to pass as human than an actual human name. what if we were the latest in the many experiments before the factory shut down? What if the factory decided to start making living "toy" workers to run the factory? It would definitely make sense. actual workers would start objecting eventually, maybe even tell the press whats going on. these created workers would be much more obedient and complacent. and WE were the apex of this branch of experimentation and were given a position above the others as a reward. this would also explain the death screens and respawn mechanics, were literally the same as the toys and therefore we are connected to them. and the reason characters like mommy longlegs dont recognise us as being one of them is that we LOOK human. none of the toys do, so they just assume we arent a toy.
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I like it
You blew my mind I like it
@Elisa Maza that one can be interpreted multiple ways. Either we're perfect as in resourceful and determined, or she is one of the few powerful or knowledgeable to know what we are and we are the perfect result for the experiments.
@Elisa Maza I assumed that since you started with "you didn't hear this" that you were providing a counterpoint. My b.