I just find it ironic that Lachlan Murdoch is speaking in front of a backdrop that says, "The Centre for the Australian way of life" in an American accent.
The Murdoch media are no strangers to parading shitty platitudes like that around. "Un Australian", "way of life", "the heart of XYZ" etc. They're full of it.
I absolutely love that you didn't just say 'Yeah, screw that misogynist'. Instead you denounced the joke while pointing out that regional media is bleeding and we need more volunteers stepping up to the plate.
My local paper has sexist jokes like this in it all the time. It's not about lacking volunteers. It's a culture of endemic misogyny, white Australia being stuck in the 1950s and the blatant favouritism shown towards older, pinke- I mean whiter gamm- I mean men.
@@taranullius9221 I think you are both right. The point being made that if there were more volunteers, there would be more people to notice and address the blatant 'old boys club' misogyny.
Careful I first read that as MSN not MSM (main stream media) and assumed you meant MSNBC which is part of Microsoft, which is also a massive part of the overall problem or corporatized media. If you get a chance go back and check the 2004 documentary "Outfoxed" in it they warned that Murdoch's methods were dragging the rest of the media into the same business model. That's why politics in the media as well as the media's incessant need to hype stories into full frenzy mode like the A Current Affair story shown here, has become the giant maelstrom of garbage it is.
I love the way people are saying mainstream media as if the other media outlets are any different they're all out to make money from they're Target audience that's all
@@ArisaemaTriphyllum would you like to elaborate on that with some actual evidence ? You do know if you actually give details we can do something about this but vague statements and catchphrases is not going to solve anything
My favourite thing about that first story is everyone glossing over the insinuation that just because land is held privately in freehold, they can just sell it to a foreign power to set up a military base without the country to which the land *actually belongs* having any say in such a geopolitically sensitive move. Like ignoring the fact that China could just deal with PNG directly if they wanted to set up a base and PNG wanted to let them.
My favourite part was Sky ""News" seeing an opportunity to bash Penny Wong without bothering to do any due diligence as to the stories accuracy, and making themselves look like idiots, not that there's anything new in that.
Yeah, I'm really surprised Penny Wong's office didn't immediately respond to a ludicrous and extortionate offer from the islands' owner by showering him with taxpayer money.
He's showing all the 'integrity' of a Murdoch. Use the laws you've just spoken against to silence critics. Unfortunately, he will probably extend and possibly even worsen his father's legacy in the years ahead. I am always left wondering: 'but what are they trying to achieve'?! The only explanation, it's a 1984 style, power for power's sake situation. Consequences be damned.
His brother saw the light and baled out of the Fox madness. Maybe the error in the copy was, in fact, to mention the Murdock and not Fox ‘news’ as the problem. That reality is indisputable. Fox and their low-intellect audience are part of the big problem. In Australia unfortunately we have the red-headed step-child in Sky news. I’ll leave it at that.
So I didn't really understand what Paul Barry's stance on friendlyjordies until Jordan's recent video. But Jordan obviously highlights the difference between his and crikeys coverage through this particular media. You normally call yourself out if such hypocrisies are made, I hope the trend continues.
But Murdoch does bear responsibility, surely couldn't be too hard to prove in court, Murdoch's are after all are the character assassination world champions.
While it might seem intuitive that their reporting had influence of what occurred on that day, it's nearly impossible to prove in court. How do you prove that the rioters saw those news reports and that they contributed to them feeling it was acceptable to storm the capitol? That is hard enough to do for a single person, let alone hundreds.
@@StreakyBaconMan they blatantly, and falsely pushed the election fraud narrative by allowing unscrupulous guests to push the lies which in turn incited violence. They knew exactly what they where doing. Non of the hosts believe their own lies, put them on the stand under oath.
@@tadstertrolley7770 I'm not saying they didn't do that stuff - I am just saying proving it in a court of law is not at all practical. How do you prove they knew it was a lie and pushed it anyway when you can't compel them to incriminate themselves? How do you prove they knew exactly what they were doing when you can't compel them to incriminate themselves? How do you prove their intent when you can't force them to incriminate themselves? How do you prove what they did had the actual effect of inciting the riot, and the riot would not have occurred but for what they did? You'd basically need to have several Fox employees testify that they knew it was a lie, they knew what they were doing and did it despite knowing it could incite violence despite being under no obligation to do so, and have dozens or hundreds of phycological examinations of the participants in the riot to determine that Fox News influenced their decision to participate in the riot. While it may be obvious to us looking in from the outside what was going on and what they were doing, in a court you can't present as evidence "doesn't your gut tell you they played a role in the riots?" - you have to prove it with actual evidence and testimony.
Imo rioters were more incensed and riled by CNN and Co than any inspiration they may have drawn from Fox . It was a nice apology Crikey had to publish to Lachlan.
And that right there is why I watch ABC and really like Paul Barry. He started talking about the Crikey / Murdoch legal issue and straight away declared that he both used to work for Crikey and was still a share holder. There was zero ambiguity and he maintained his professional unbiased reporting style that I respect.
Unbiased ....... dont make me laugh ... 7 deaths at the capital & highlighting the Trump insider womans testimony that even the F.B.I. denied says something very different about his bias
“What section of the constitution has been breached?” “Section? There is no one section. It’s just the vibe, of the thing. It’s all part of it, is what I’m getting at. That’s my point. It’s the vibe of it” - Dennis Denuto, attorney at law
I wouldn't think that you could say ANYTHING about Uncle Rupert's grubby clan that could possibly be defamatory... How could you damage their reputation any more than they do all on their own? Just my opinion ...
Like their Statist brothers in America the ABC conveniently omit the “protest peacefully and patriotically” part of Trump’s speech. I hope this Crikey mob goes under. Serves them right for underestimating the legal ramifications of intolerance towards people with differing political points of view.
I honestly can't see how any Murdoch's reputation would have been harmed by that Crikey article. No one who thinks well of them would have been affected by that story and those who think it shows how terrible they are already thought they were terrible. Also, while I haven't actually read the article, on it's face, I wouldn't interpret the expression "unindicted co-conspirator" to mean that the Murdoch's sat down with Trump and hatched a plan. I would just interpret it to mean that Murdoch properties and their staff expressly tried to foment unrest that led to the Jan 6 insurrection. Can they really deny that they did that?
Problem with today's press is it chops little clips out of everything to fit a narrative. Reporters seem to always push a bias cause of lack of information of the full story or just ignorant. Fox reacted wrong early to Jan 6 but what they wanted to resolve it was also quickly overlooked cause of left bias. Media in America is propaganda arms with no respect to the people.
@@barryaaa5909 , major media outlets aren't great but I do have some sympathy for them. They are trying to compete many smaller outlets on the web that have taken their audience. Some of those smaller outlets have scruples but many don't, so the major outlets have lowered their own standards to compete. With regards to Fox News, some of their actual news coverage is OK and non-partisan but it's all the high-profile opinion shows masquerading as news that are the problem, e.g. Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson, et al. It's not just how these people responded to what happened on Jan 6 but that they incited it in the first place. They kept repeating, as fact, claims that were speculation at best and outright lies at worst. If those who kept claiming that the election was rigged had the evidence they claimed they did then it would have been presented to a court and appropriate steps would have been taken. Why actually happened was that any time any so-called evidence was presented it was thrown out of court and no requested recounts should anything out of the ordinary. The concerns that Republican voters had about the election didn't warrant being addressed because they were based on fabrications by Fox News and others both before and after the insurrection.
First Australia, then the UK,then US. The Murdochs continue their ruination of Good Government and Good Will in our countries. I’m old enough to have watched it all happen and it makes me sick. They have divided us all.
That "joke" was written by someone who has never witnessed violence, let alone domestic violence. It's astonishing that someone can be that tone-deaf and naive.
Not sure why everybody is putting joke in quotation marks - it's quite obviously a joke and not a serious piece of advice. It's a BAD joke, it's not funny, and it's on a topic that you most certainly should not be joking about in your local paper but it's still a joke and not supposed to be taken seriously as a real opinion. I highly doubt the author of the joke actually believes that women should keep their mouth shut to avoid domestic violence. At the end of the day the joke is no big deal, it shouldn't be a national news story.
While I struggle to take anything seriously that uses the term "tone deaf" which is a catch all for I have no evidenced argument but want to appear correct, in this case I completely agree. It blows my mind that it got published.
@@UberNoodle its really not that deep. we can all agree such a facetious joke was not appropriate for a local paper, but in any other context you should realize its ugly and arrogant for one to decide what others are allowed to joke about
@@UberNoodle this seems largely irrelevant given that - in this case specifically- said joke was prefaced with a big title saying "JOKE OF THE MONTH". Regardless of the meta discussion behind what a joke is, this was explicitly being published as one.
I get the other vibe, I'm afraid. I think the "joke-maker" IS speaking from experience and opinion. It was probably originally written in an age where domestic violence wasn't considered a legal offense (not so long ago).
I can't wait to hear all the right-wingers teasing Lachlan Murdoch for claiming "hurt and offence". I'm sure they'll let him know what a snowflake he's being, right?
Personally, I'm no fan of Murdoch's empire, but you don't find it alarming in anyway that our "unbiased" national and state-funded broadcaster would promote effectively disabling an opponent media outlet in Australia?
@@Pleiades-111 indeed. In fact there are a few posts in this comment section which address that very topic. And as cynical as they are (rightly so), my contention is that at least Barry disclosed his interest in the matter.
@@attilajuhasz2526 Please remember though that the whole left/right narrative has been very successful at dividing Australia. Even more successful was the intense media coverage of Trump. Not only very divisive, but a very useful distraction from Australian politics. The best thing Australians can do for their country, in my opinion, is to disconnect from any and all media sources.
@@Pleiades-111 , I can't recall exactly what was said in the video but I don't recall any such promotion. I'll rewatch it to be sure but are you referring to anything in particular?
If you ever have any doubt to the racist tendencies of certain sections of the Australian community, watching the main stream media report on China will remove those doubts.
If you ever have any doubt of the gross human rights violations committed by the Chinese Government, a simple examination of the facts will remove those doubts.
Sad but true. I hope Australian people with roots in China, Chinese visitors and permanent residents from China see this episode of Media Watch... we're not all dumb and racist here
but those islands are still under Australian law right? even if china have it, do they have a legal right to build an army base on it? if i own a home in china can i bring in ICBMs to my home ? do i have that legal right?
That's the thing many people forget. You need to very carefully consider your audience before telling a joke. You don't get to decide if something is funny, the audience does. If nobody's laughing and people are only offended, I wouldn't call that a joke. It's more like being a bully. By all means tell the joke, don't be upset if you get chased off the stage though.
How exactly do they "have" the port of Darwin? And also, who the hell would want to be in a shit hole like Darwin compared to having an island with actually people and infrastructure? And considering the Americans are based in the port if anyone "has" it, they do. Edit
@@nathancallcott7749 - You seem to be saying that an uninhabited island has more people and infrastructure than the capital city of the Nothern Territory. Am I reading your reply correctly there?
Saying, "I'm sorry you were offended" is not an apology. It indicates remorse about the actions or responses of others, without taking responsibility for your own actions. A proper apology would be something along the lines of, "You are right to be offended, and I apologize for my grave error of judgement". Passing of a non-apology as an apology merely because it includes the word sorry is bad reporting.
@@davidhester6648 I disagree the Murdoch's have been pushing this agenda for years , not as blatant as now . By sowing distrust in the Government bureaucracy . Look what they did to the BBC . Keep telling everyone that BBC can't be trusted because it has a Socialist agenda. Now the BBC is almost toothless because its not allowed to offend anyone. I'm watching them trying to do the same thing in Australia.
@@m0rthaus yes, though, luckily for me, I don’t have to worry about proving anything in court. I just know Murdoch is as corrupt (greedy, selfish and arrogant) as the universe is as wide. My evidence? I provide to you exhibits Fox News and the entire Murdoch media empire. I rest my case. 🤠
Can we stop putting joke in quotation marks as though it wasn't actually a joke? It was clearly a joke not intended to be taken seriously and it was in the JOKE OF THE MONTH section, not an opinion section. Not saying the joke was good or funny, I think it's a terrible joke that seems to make fun of the victim of domestic violence and not the perpetrator which is what the goal should be when you're attempting this type of dark humor on a taboo subject. But it was still a joke - something someone wrote not intending anybody to take it seriously.
@@StreakyBaconMan Do you think youtube comments is ready for that level of technical distinction? More power to you, but I'd be worried my words were falling on deaf ears.
@@jackfrost4100 people can make whatever joke they want, but just like offense isn't a valid reason to silence them, "being a joke" isn't a valid reason to not get your ass kicked if you say some rude or tasteless BS
I always liked the "David vs goliath" analogy only because people don't think it through. David had a sling and based on what they function like, shepherds mostly using them to protect sheep, are the closest we had then to a gun. So David vs Goliath isn't really a story about an underdog verse a huge monster, it's a story about a well armed individual against and unprepared opponent, size difference or no.
@@spateri728 yes and no. They have a point, it just depends on how precisely applicable you want to be with your analogies. A majority of people don't care if the analogy used isn't a perfect match as long as the point gets across (which is where you're coming from). I get the feeling OP might have forgotten or overlooked the aspect of the tale that emphasises the seemingly insurmountable nature of the confrontation, and how that - in itself- could be overcome psychologically as well as physically.
@@Loctorak True, the only point they have is that people don't know the actual story. It's also not so much the sling, it's the small rock that stops Goliath. Like any story in the bible it's a metaphor. I mean it actually happened...🤷♂️🙏
@@aaronleverton4221 yeah desperate attention seekers who think belting a woman for talking is funny. The types of incels who would not dare to say it in front of a real man. Can you explain it to me?
For the first story - While the land is in freehold, it's still under Australian sovereignty, and so subject to Australian law and import/export regulations. I suspect a fleet of fighter jets might, just might, be against the gun laws. Likewise they couldn't use it as an anchorage for Chinese military vessels because said military vessels would be violating Australian waters. Of course, in this case we couldn't do the reverse (have the Australian government buy land under Chinese sovereignty), as private land ownership is not a thing in China. But it wouldn't matter anyway, as Australia is likewise not free to park Australian military assets on land under Chinese sovereignty. There is SOME reason for Australia to buy the islands, just to avoid the hassle of enforcing those laws on the islands, but there's a fair-to-middling chance they'll all be underwater in another century anyway.
did you see what Alex Jones did? Lawyer tried to fuxk up discovery in his trial so badly they'd get a mistrial for incompetence. Literally texted an entire phone worth of private documents 'by accident' 🤣
Re - The murdoch matter. I'd be interested to know how much of this is tactical vs an angry edict from on high. I doubt that a healthy, open culture exists within that org.
I think that Crikey is performing a valuable public service in taking on Murdoch, and I will be donating to their fighting fund. Will Crikey win? I trust the learned opinion of Richard Ackland, who believes that Murdoch is embarking on a "misconceived adventures in reputation repair" along the lines of Wilde v Queensberry et al.
Yeah I’ll be honest, I’m not the Wokest out there. In private I can make some pretty crude jokes, but I don’t think that joke has ever really passed anytime this century.
The reason why conflict islands not on market anymore. New Guinea government are now investigating. They are stepping in and its off the market. They are simply not for sale to a non NG resident.
Murgon is a lovely town, mostly filled with lovely people. Same as any rural town in Australia, While not excusing the joke in the Murgon Moments, I can assure you that someone would have counseled Mr Geraghty of its unfortunate qualities. Murgon Moments is so infinitesimally small that it is the size of an A4 piece of paper and is a few pages long. There are spreadsheets bigger than this. Murgon Moments is not really a paper as such but more along the lines of a community noticeboard. Context is key and media watch did fairly good job of it just not the "under 40" bit.
@@tessforbes8687 both clubs profess to be think tanks. Rather, they are lobby groups for their donors. The IPA is stacked with LNP mates while ASPI with warmongering friends of military hardware suppliers.
@@attilajuhasz2526 IPA has members such as Rupert Murdoch, Gina Rhinehart and other wealthy individuals and corporations, as well as the ACL and far right politicians. Their gaols are quite frightening and some of the secret video obtained should scare everyone. It’s not a think tank. ASPI is very different with less than 3% of it’s funding from defense industry companies and it has employees, not members. The researchers and writers are independent, non-partisan and not all their work is related to defense policy and is transparent. I’m saying they are not similar.
@@tessforbes8687 I stand corrected. As scary as the IPA is (you are 100% correct), I take a dim view of the clowns at ASPI. According to a Michael West Media report, they are a charity for tax purposes!
Murdoch forgets that Fox needs to say to its viewers that what they are saying is opinion. They call themselves a 'news organization' and that's misleading when you're talking parody or opinion.
@@attilajuhasz2526 to be honest the husband and wife both sound horrible, and the doctor just gave them a quick fix. I don't normally say this on the internet but thanks for the level head
That joke published by the Murgon Moments was not a good thing to print, but then suggesting that Leo (the editor) get someone under 40 to give him a hand looks to be a pretty crass thing to say (and imply) about older people.
...Or a very clever way of saying (or implying) that more people need to volunteer. Obviously young people -- since the baton is always passed to the 'next' generation.
I just find it ironic that Lachlan Murdoch is speaking in front of a backdrop that says, "The Centre for the Australian way of life" in an American accent.
The Murdoch media are no strangers to parading shitty platitudes like that around. "Un Australian", "way of life", "the heart of XYZ" etc. They're full of it.
I found it funny he said "anti Australian" where as most Australians would say "unAustralian". it just comes off exceedingly American.
Well, he is an American…
Exactly. You can't get much more anti-Australian than renouncing Australian citizenship.
what the heck would that pampered little rich kid know about the Australian way of life, anyway? Cheek!
I absolutely love that you didn't just say 'Yeah, screw that misogynist'. Instead you denounced the joke while pointing out that regional media is bleeding and we need more volunteers stepping up to the plate.
Maybe you should swish some sweet tea and be quiet.
My local paper has sexist jokes like this in it all the time. It's not about lacking volunteers. It's a culture of endemic misogyny, white Australia being stuck in the 1950s and the blatant favouritism shown towards older, pinke- I mean whiter gamm- I mean men.
I'm back there now. I have to listen to old white people complain about seeing black people on television. Rural Australia is rotten.
@@taranullius9221 I think you are both right. The point being made that if there were more volunteers, there would be more people to notice and address the blatant 'old boys club' misogyny.
@@daniellamcgee4251 It's not how many volunteers there are, it's who they are. There is no need for that kind of swill - it's not journalism.
I saw that ACA report and was like “can’t wait to see this on media watch”
"Are Fundamentally Anti-Australian"
Spoken like a True American Media Monopoly Mogul.
🤣 truth
I'll be happy when Murdoch's reign on MSM is over.
Careful I first read that as MSN not MSM (main stream media) and assumed you meant MSNBC which is part of Microsoft, which is also a massive part of the overall problem or corporatized media.
If you get a chance go back and check the 2004 documentary "Outfoxed" in it they warned that Murdoch's methods were dragging the rest of the media into the same business model. That's why politics in the media as well as the media's incessant need to hype stories into full frenzy mode like the A Current Affair story shown here, has become the giant maelstrom of garbage it is.
@@UberNoodle God, I hope so.
I love the way people are saying mainstream media as if the other media outlets are any different they're all out to make money from they're Target audience that's all
@@jamied8678 ABC isn't attempting to take my bodily autonomy away.
@@ArisaemaTriphyllum would you like to elaborate on that with some actual evidence ? You do know if you actually give details we can do something about this but vague statements and catchphrases is not going to solve anything
My favourite thing about that first story is everyone glossing over the insinuation that just because land is held privately in freehold, they can just sell it to a foreign power to set up a military base without the country to which the land *actually belongs* having any say in such a geopolitically sensitive move. Like ignoring the fact that China could just deal with PNG directly if they wanted to set up a base and PNG wanted to let them.
Really? Bugger! There goes my plan to sell my house in Brisbane to the Chinese for a missile base.
LOL
My favourite part was Sky ""News" seeing an opportunity to bash Penny Wong without bothering to do any due diligence as to the stories accuracy, and making themselves look like idiots, not that there's anything new in that.
Yeah, I'm really surprised Penny Wong's office didn't immediately respond to a ludicrous and extortionate offer from the islands' owner by showering him with taxpayer money.
The state wants us to believe that we are in danger, hence the Solomon Islands. The more fearful we are, the more civil rights we willingly surrender.
He's showing all the 'integrity' of a Murdoch. Use the laws you've just spoken against to silence critics. Unfortunately, he will probably extend and possibly even worsen his father's legacy in the years ahead. I am always left wondering: 'but what are they trying to achieve'?! The only explanation, it's a 1984 style, power for power's sake situation. Consequences be damned.
It is funny how they're all for freedom of speech unless it's something they don't like. They're all about projection.
His brother saw the light and baled out of the Fox madness. Maybe the error in the copy was, in fact, to mention the Murdock and not Fox ‘news’ as the problem. That reality is indisputable.
Fox and their low-intellect audience are part of the big problem. In Australia unfortunately we have the red-headed step-child in Sky news. I’ll leave it at that.
Crikey was being just as partisan as any Murdoch newspaper. They're just as bad as each other, and crikey won't be missed.
@@internethardcase I hardly think anything Crikey prints will cause property damage or deaths, partisan or not.
@@Bynggo the existence of ANTIFA says otherwise.
So I didn't really understand what Paul Barry's stance on friendlyjordies until Jordan's recent video. But Jordan obviously highlights the difference between his and crikeys coverage through this particular media. You normally call yourself out if such hypocrisies are made, I hope the trend continues.
I came on here to say the same thing. Perhaps Media Watch should take a backseat when commenting on Crikey.
But Murdoch does bear responsibility, surely couldn't be too hard to prove in court, Murdoch's are after all are the character assassination world champions.
While it might seem intuitive that their reporting had influence of what occurred on that day, it's nearly impossible to prove in court. How do you prove that the rioters saw those news reports and that they contributed to them feeling it was acceptable to storm the capitol? That is hard enough to do for a single person, let alone hundreds.
@@StreakyBaconMan they blatantly, and falsely pushed the election fraud narrative by allowing unscrupulous guests to push the lies which in turn incited violence. They knew exactly what they where doing. Non of the hosts believe their own lies, put them on the stand under oath.
@@tadstertrolley7770 I'm not saying they didn't do that stuff - I am just saying proving it in a court of law is not at all practical. How do you prove they knew it was a lie and pushed it anyway when you can't compel them to incriminate themselves? How do you prove they knew exactly what they were doing when you can't compel them to incriminate themselves? How do you prove their intent when you can't force them to incriminate themselves? How do you prove what they did had the actual effect of inciting the riot, and the riot would not have occurred but for what they did?
You'd basically need to have several Fox employees testify that they knew it was a lie, they knew what they were doing and did it despite knowing it could incite violence despite being under no obligation to do so, and have dozens or hundreds of phycological examinations of the participants in the riot to determine that Fox News influenced their decision to participate in the riot.
While it may be obvious to us looking in from the outside what was going on and what they were doing, in a court you can't present as evidence "doesn't your gut tell you they played a role in the riots?" - you have to prove it with actual evidence and testimony.
Imo rioters were more incensed and riled by CNN and Co than any inspiration they may have drawn from Fox . It was a nice apology Crikey had to publish to Lachlan.
And that right there is why I watch ABC and really like Paul Barry. He started talking about the Crikey / Murdoch legal issue and straight away declared that he both used to work for Crikey and was still a share holder.
There was zero ambiguity and he maintained his professional unbiased reporting style that I respect.
Unbiased ....... dont make me laugh ... 7 deaths at the capital & highlighting the Trump insider womans testimony that even the F.B.I. denied says something very different about his bias
PB is a national treasure
@@JackBaker954 Yes to the far left & greens
@@meichong8278 if you think this panders to the far left, you are clearly politically inept
@@JackBaker954 This no ...... but him absolutely yes
I can just imagine Crikey getting that lawyer from 'The Castle' to represent them.
“What section of the constitution has been breached?”
“Section? There is no one section. It’s just the vibe, of the thing. It’s all part of it, is what I’m getting at. That’s my point. It’s the vibe of it”
- Dennis Denuto, attorney at law
It’s the vibe
I wouldn't think that you could say ANYTHING about Uncle Rupert's grubby clan that could possibly be defamatory... How could you damage their reputation any more than they do all on their own? Just my opinion ...
Like their Statist brothers in America the ABC conveniently omit the “protest peacefully and patriotically” part of Trump’s speech. I hope this Crikey mob goes under. Serves them right for underestimating the legal ramifications of intolerance towards people with differing political points of view.
Murdoch telling us what's Australian with an American accent...what a flog
I honestly can't see how any Murdoch's reputation would have been harmed by that Crikey article. No one who thinks well of them would have been affected by that story and those who think it shows how terrible they are already thought they were terrible.
Also, while I haven't actually read the article, on it's face, I wouldn't interpret the expression "unindicted co-conspirator" to mean that the Murdoch's sat down with Trump and hatched a plan. I would just interpret it to mean that Murdoch properties and their staff expressly tried to foment unrest that led to the Jan 6 insurrection. Can they really deny that they did that?
Problem with today's press is it chops little clips out of everything to fit a narrative. Reporters seem to always push a bias cause of lack of information of the full story or just ignorant. Fox reacted wrong early to Jan 6 but what they wanted to resolve it was also quickly overlooked cause of left bias. Media in America is propaganda arms with no respect to the people.
@@barryaaa5909 , major media outlets aren't great but I do have some sympathy for them. They are trying to compete many smaller outlets on the web that have taken their audience. Some of those smaller outlets have scruples but many don't, so the major outlets have lowered their own standards to compete.
With regards to Fox News, some of their actual news coverage is OK and non-partisan but it's all the high-profile opinion shows masquerading as news that are the problem, e.g. Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson, et al. It's not just how these people responded to what happened on Jan 6 but that they incited it in the first place. They kept repeating, as fact, claims that were speculation at best and outright lies at worst. If those who kept claiming that the election was rigged had the evidence they claimed they did then it would have been presented to a court and appropriate steps would have been taken. Why actually happened was that any time any so-called evidence was presented it was thrown out of court and no requested recounts should anything out of the ordinary. The concerns that Republican voters had about the election didn't warrant being addressed because they were based on fabrications by Fox News and others both before and after the insurrection.
After all the business the Murdoch’s have done around the world - Lachlan Murdoch seems a tad hypocritical!
First Australia, then the UK,then US. The Murdochs continue their ruination of Good Government and Good Will in our countries. I’m old enough to have watched it all happen and it makes me sick. They have divided us all.
Let's not forget to keep an eye on the Dominion vs Newscorp litigation in the US
That "joke" was written by someone who has never witnessed violence, let alone domestic violence. It's astonishing that someone can be that tone-deaf and naive.
Not sure why everybody is putting joke in quotation marks - it's quite obviously a joke and not a serious piece of advice. It's a BAD joke, it's not funny, and it's on a topic that you most certainly should not be joking about in your local paper but it's still a joke and not supposed to be taken seriously as a real opinion. I highly doubt the author of the joke actually believes that women should keep their mouth shut to avoid domestic violence. At the end of the day the joke is no big deal, it shouldn't be a national news story.
While I struggle to take anything seriously that uses the term "tone deaf" which is a catch all for I have no evidenced argument but want to appear correct, in this case I completely agree. It blows my mind that it got published.
@@UberNoodle its really not that deep. we can all agree such a facetious joke was not appropriate for a local paper, but in any other context you should realize its ugly and arrogant for one to decide what others are allowed to joke about
@@UberNoodle this seems largely irrelevant given that - in this case specifically- said joke was prefaced with a big title saying "JOKE OF THE MONTH". Regardless of the meta discussion behind what a joke is, this was explicitly being published as one.
I get the other vibe, I'm afraid. I think the "joke-maker" IS speaking from experience and opinion. It was probably originally written in an age where domestic violence wasn't considered a legal offense (not so long ago).
I have heard that Lachlan was not born but shat out by Rupert after a bad case of diarrhea.
Reptiles hatch from eggs.
Dude was like "Back in my day, I could say whatever I wanted and no one stopped me!?"
Thank God for Media Watch! Thank-you.
Murdoch will struggle. No evidence of damage to reputation.
thanks for the heads up on crikey news, i will go and book mark that now
I agree with Crikey
Murdoch encourages their people to continue to spew dangerous lies
Absolutely
How is a lie or a truth "dangerous", and how would an opinion be a lie or the truth? Isn't it more dangerous to label speech as "dangerous"?
I can't wait to hear all the right-wingers teasing Lachlan Murdoch for claiming "hurt and offence". I'm sure they'll let him know what a snowflake he's being, right?
Yep, undoubtedly.
Let me know because I don't watch Sky.
Personally, I'm no fan of Murdoch's empire, but you don't find it alarming in anyway that our "unbiased" national and state-funded broadcaster would promote effectively disabling an opponent media outlet in Australia?
@@Pleiades-111 indeed.
In fact there are a few posts in this comment section which address that very topic. And as cynical as they are (rightly so), my contention is that at least Barry disclosed his interest in the matter.
@@attilajuhasz2526 Please remember though that the whole left/right narrative has been very successful at dividing Australia. Even more successful was the intense media coverage of Trump. Not only very divisive, but a very useful distraction from Australian politics. The best thing Australians can do for their country, in my opinion, is to disconnect from any and all media sources.
@@Pleiades-111 , I can't recall exactly what was said in the video but I don't recall any such promotion. I'll rewatch it to be sure but are you referring to anything in particular?
Rudd was right.
Never heard an American-Australian hybrid accent and I never want to again
The Murdochs should be in jail. I'd be happy to donate to Crickey.
If you ever have any doubt to the racist tendencies of certain sections of the Australian community, watching the main stream media report on China will remove those doubts.
Racism is it...said by a guy with only white friends of course
China. I think that is more than race in this military dictatorship.
If you ever have any doubt of the gross human rights violations committed by the Chinese Government, a simple examination of the facts will remove those doubts.
Sad but true. I hope Australian people with roots in China, Chinese visitors and permanent residents from China see this episode of Media Watch... we're not all dumb and racist here
Media Watch, never go away!
but those islands are still under Australian law right? even if china have it, do they have a legal right to build an army base on it? if i own a home in china can i bring in ICBMs to my home ? do i have that legal right?
They're actually owned by Papua New Guinea.
@@dustyfox6511 thanks i did not see that bit
China don't have a legal right to the Spratly islands in the South China Sea, hasn't stopped them building naval bases.
If Ian's concerned about the Chinese, he could always donate the islands back to the local indigenous peoples 🌏🙂
15:24 "I am sorry you found it offensive..."
Ah, the old ifpology - the favourite trick of the weasel.
That's the thing many people forget. You need to very carefully consider your audience before telling a joke. You don't get to decide if something is funny, the audience does. If nobody's laughing and people are only offended, I wouldn't call that a joke. It's more like being a bully. By all means tell the joke, don't be upset if you get chased off the stage though.
Why would Sky News be in a panic about the China having some tiny islands a thousand kilometres from shore when they already have the Port of Darwin?
Because ACA does all their "reporting" like that, they are nothing but fear mongering
Because 'China bad' when Labor is in power, but when Liberal Party is in power 'China smart trading partner'.
Darwin is in Australia. Do some basic research and stop believing everything that spews out of Murdoch's backside.
How exactly do they "have" the port of Darwin? And also, who the hell would want to be in a shit hole like Darwin compared to having an island with actually people and infrastructure? And considering the Americans are based in the port if anyone "has" it, they do.
Edit
@@nathancallcott7749 - You seem to be saying that an uninhabited island has more people and infrastructure than the capital city of the Nothern Territory. Am I reading your reply correctly there?
Saying, "I'm sorry you were offended" is not an apology. It indicates remorse about the actions or responses of others, without taking responsibility for your own actions. A proper apology would be something along the lines of, "You are right to be offended, and I apologize for my grave error of judgement". Passing of a non-apology as an apology merely because it includes the word sorry is bad reporting.
Indeed, you beat me to it.
The other "non contrition" apology is, "It's regrettable that ..."
What about Britain, Murdoch's
also had big help in the demise of that Nation .
.....its been on the decline for a while tho. Murdoch helped im sure, but the decline started long before him.
@@davidhester6648 I disagree the Murdoch's have been pushing this agenda for years , not as blatant as now . By sowing distrust in the Government bureaucracy . Look what they did to the BBC . Keep telling everyone that BBC can't be trusted because it has a Socialist agenda. Now the BBC is almost toothless because its not allowed to offend anyone. I'm watching them trying to do the same thing in Australia.
Isn't it wild that somebody claiming for "all things Australian" has an American accent?
There is a fundamental difference between defamation and free speech.
The difference being that Murdoch papers have the right to do both, but they don't want anyone else to be able to criticise them? Yes, you're right.
Murdochs continuing to conspire with Trump and Lindsey Graham in promoting civil unrest.
It's incredible how Senator Graham manages to walk despite being born without a spine
great episode. Well done team
But we all know Murdoch is a coconspirator, so call a spade a spade. Murdoch is simply Trump’s Goebbels.
'Knowing' and being able to prove in court are two very different things.
@@m0rthaus yes, though, luckily for me, I don’t have to worry about proving anything in court. I just know Murdoch is as corrupt (greedy, selfish and arrogant) as the universe is as wide. My evidence? I provide to you exhibits Fox News and the entire Murdoch media empire. I rest my case. 🤠
Just glad you've got comments back on again, so glad the LNP is gone now there's some form of free speech to our national broadcaster again.
Sounds like that dude with the islands was just wanting to hold the government over a barrel and get a quick 25 million
Love media watch, love actual journalism
That “joke” was bloody horrifying.
Can we stop putting joke in quotation marks as though it wasn't actually a joke? It was clearly a joke not intended to be taken seriously and it was in the JOKE OF THE MONTH section, not an opinion section. Not saying the joke was good or funny, I think it's a terrible joke that seems to make fun of the victim of domestic violence and not the perpetrator which is what the goal should be when you're attempting this type of dark humor on a taboo subject. But it was still a joke - something someone wrote not intending anybody to take it seriously.
@@StreakyBaconMan it’s still bloody horrifying
@@deansartorel7260 I agree, I am just pointing out that a horrifying joke isn't nearly as bad as a horrifying opinion.
@@StreakyBaconMan Do you think youtube comments is ready for that level of technical distinction? More power to you, but I'd be worried my words were falling on deaf ears.
@@jackfrost4100 people can make whatever joke they want, but just like offense isn't a valid reason to silence them, "being a joke" isn't a valid reason to not get your ass kicked if you say some rude or tasteless BS
FREE SPEECH, FREE SPEECH.... unless it's against Murdoch or NEWS LTD. Oh the irony!
They should all be in prison. FOX brainwashed one of my friends and now no one wants to be around him!
Love your to the point and stick with the facts, keep up the great content
I always liked the "David vs goliath" analogy only because people don't think it through. David had a sling and based on what they function like, shepherds mostly using them to protect sheep, are the closest we had then to a gun. So David vs Goliath isn't really a story about an underdog verse a huge monster, it's a story about a well armed individual against and unprepared opponent, size difference or no.
No we do think it through, I think you miss the point of the analogy.
Lol wut
@@spateri728 yes and no. They have a point, it just depends on how precisely applicable you want to be with your analogies. A majority of people don't care if the analogy used isn't a perfect match as long as the point gets across (which is where you're coming from).
I get the feeling OP might have forgotten or overlooked the aspect of the tale that emphasises the seemingly insurmountable nature of the confrontation, and how that - in itself- could be overcome psychologically as well as physically.
Goliath shoulda just gone stomp
@@Loctorak True, the only point they have is that people don't know the actual story. It's also not so much the sling, it's the small rock that stops Goliath. Like any story in the bible it's a metaphor. I mean it actually happened...🤷♂️🙏
"...needs someone under 40 to help out..."
Implying that no one over 40 can recognise and avoid a poor-taste joke? Not very inclusive of you.
Leo is an old bogan boomer. Come on.
Well, apparently some are having trouble recognising that that was a joke, so...
@@channelname1019 it wasn't a joke. What is funny about hitting a woman? Come on tough guy, tell us where the funny in the joke is.
@@godamid4889 Never heard of black humour or edgelords, huh?
@@aaronleverton4221 yeah desperate attention seekers who think belting a woman for talking is funny. The types of incels who would not dare to say it in front of a real man.
Can you explain it to me?
Well done again, Media Watch.
Another great show, well done 👍
For the first story - While the land is in freehold, it's still under Australian sovereignty, and so subject to Australian law and import/export regulations.
I suspect a fleet of fighter jets might, just might, be against the gun laws. Likewise they couldn't use it as an anchorage for Chinese military vessels because said military vessels would be violating Australian waters.
Of course, in this case we couldn't do the reverse (have the Australian government buy land under Chinese sovereignty), as private land ownership is not a thing in China. But it wouldn't matter anyway, as Australia is likewise not free to park Australian military assets on land under Chinese sovereignty.
There is SOME reason for Australia to buy the islands, just to avoid the hassle of enforcing those laws on the islands, but there's a fair-to-middling chance they'll all be underwater in another century anyway.
This court case will just affirm what normal people think about The Murdoch’s and FOX.
I can't understand how brain-dead you have to be to watch commercial television or Sly News.
About as brain dead as you need to be to vote for the Libs for 10 years straight, i guess 😅
isn't it time wexstarted calling it by its adverb name TEL LI VISION
@@maxwilks7583 tel lie vision - very apt!
I got to watching to the time of 0.42 & I SAID OH SH*T CHINA!😆😳
Must be hard trying to sell your islands in the Pacific while in Majorca Spain. Tough life. 🌞 ☀️
Another master piece.
He has to sell the islands because they about to go under the sea.
Readying the popcorn for Murdoch Dirty Laundry
I look forward to seeing what Crikey finds during Discovery, as I imagine the Jan 6 commission does.
did you see what Alex Jones did? Lawyer tried to fuxk up discovery in his trial so badly they'd get a mistrial for incompetence. Literally texted an entire phone worth of private documents 'by accident' 🤣
@@lachlank.8270 i was unaware of mistrial, though doesn't surprise me, but was kinda what prompt this.
Sure Murdoch will have better lawyers though.😕
Re - The murdoch matter. I'd be interested to know how much of this is tactical vs an angry edict from on high. I doubt that a healthy, open culture exists within that org.
Oh, man, do I cringe at the jokes we told at primary school in the 1980s 😱
A fact is a fact. Not a 'true fact'. A fact cannot be untrue.
This is nuts. Why would the Australian Gov't not step in and force this man to have NO RIGHT to sell these islands to China?
omg that "joke"! What were they thinking 🤔😳😳
That joke was disgusting. Sickening
Hearing an America say somthing is un australian makes me so mad
I think that Crikey is performing a valuable public service in taking on Murdoch, and I will be donating to their fighting fund. Will Crikey win? I trust the learned opinion of Richard Ackland, who believes that Murdoch is embarking on a "misconceived adventures in reputation repair" along the lines of Wilde v Queensberry et al.
"someone under 40"? Perhaps not the best way to end that segment...
Yeah I’ll be honest, I’m not the Wokest out there. In private I can make some pretty crude jokes, but I don’t think that joke has ever really passed anytime this century.
It was making light of a bad relationship the problem is that it teaches wives to be quiet among other things
Can Lachlan's "hurt" feelings be placated
with money? What about his hypocrisy about "free speech? How odd
@10:11..............now theres a chap who IS fundamentally UNAUSTRALIAN
That "joke"was never appropriate
The reason why conflict islands not on market anymore. New Guinea government are now investigating. They are stepping in and its off the market. They are simply not for sale to a non NG resident.
Go Crikey!!!!!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Go crikey 🇦🇺
Murgon is a lovely town, mostly filled with lovely people. Same as any rural town in Australia, While not excusing the joke in the Murgon Moments, I can assure you that someone would have counseled Mr Geraghty of its unfortunate qualities. Murgon Moments is so infinitesimally small that it is the size of an A4 piece of paper and is a few pages long. There are spreadsheets bigger than this. Murgon Moments is not really a paper as such but more along the lines of a community noticeboard. Context is key and media watch did fairly good job of it just not the "under 40" bit.
Yes discovery will be interesting
He may not have started it. But, he did nothing to stop it. All so they could make millions off of it
ICAC into Murdoch/News Corp!
Go Crikey!
nothing changes in the murdoch family , all c.... 😂😂😂😂
I wonder how high above (current) sea level those islands rise. They might not be there for long...
So who will Crikey use for evidence about this! ... Liz Cheney come on down!
Surely it shouldn't be necessary to go the Murdochs for comment when their view are literally being broadcast through every available medium.
Oh, no. Two whole months!!
How tragic
🙄
so it boils down to hatred and who hates more by giving to the campaign, whichever side you like, it all goes down the same way.
5:40 peacefully!!!! So dishonest.
I said the ABC edited that to fit there story and my comment was deleted
The IPA, what a dangerous club.
Right up there with ASPI!
@@attilajuhasz2526 I don’t see the correlation.
@@tessforbes8687 both clubs profess to be think tanks. Rather, they are lobby groups for their donors.
The IPA is stacked with LNP mates while ASPI with warmongering friends of military hardware suppliers.
@@attilajuhasz2526 IPA has members such as Rupert Murdoch, Gina Rhinehart and other wealthy individuals and corporations, as well as the ACL and far right politicians. Their gaols are quite frightening and some of the secret video obtained should scare everyone. It’s not a think tank.
ASPI is very different with less than 3% of it’s funding from defense industry companies and it has employees, not members. The researchers and writers are independent, non-partisan and not all their work is related to defense policy and is transparent.
I’m saying they are not similar.
@@tessforbes8687 I stand corrected.
As scary as the IPA is (you are 100% correct), I take a dim view of the clowns at ASPI. According to a Michael West Media report, they are a charity for tax purposes!
Could the Government not simply block the sale of these Islands to a foreign power? What a waste of time by ACA.
The PNG government possibly could!
Murdoch forgets that Fox needs to say to its viewers that what they are saying is opinion. They call themselves a 'news organization' and that's misleading when you're talking parody or opinion.
In a oostralia 🤣🤣🤣
Piss off back to McAmerica ya toss pot
I don't trust anyone who owns an island
It was an opinion piece, right? How can one defame in an opinion piece. Or, how can a newspaper be responsible for an opinion piece in their paper?
and years ago China got a 99 yr lease on Darwin Port..and a similar deal on Newcastle...no probs!
So Lachlan Murdoch is just a chip off the old block, eh?
I think someone paid Ian a visit and suggested he remove the islands from the market.
That joke was wrong but god dam I laughed
I'm being serious, here (no judgements):
In your opinion, who is the stooge in that joke? The doctor, the wife or the husband?
Edit: grammar.
@@attilajuhasz2526 to be honest the husband and wife both sound horrible, and the doctor just gave them a quick fix.
I don't normally say this on the internet but thanks for the level head
No wonder some of us CANT COP WATCHING THE NEWS ITS HEARTBREAKING
That joke published by the Murgon Moments was not a good thing to print, but then suggesting that Leo (the editor) get someone under 40 to give him a hand looks to be a pretty crass thing to say (and imply) about older people.
...Or a very clever way of saying (or implying) that more people need to volunteer. Obviously young people -- since the baton is always passed to the 'next' generation.
Paul Barry now shares something in common with the journalists he criticises.